I understand that Rodman was absolutely the guy that the bulls needed and I'd possibly would consider him as MVP but Rodman on any other team is not an MVP, not for the pistons and not for the spurs. I understand Rodman on the bulls is a different beast but all the same MJ is MVP. Rodman is hard to replace but not as hard as it is to replace MJ. The thing is Rodman is so good at his position that he basically takes up 2 positions of PF and C but MJ is so good that he takes up PG, SG, and SF. Rodman is great but without MJ they lose and without Rodman they still possibly win. Like if you take out Rodman and insert Hakeem then you win but if you take out MJ and replace with Penny or Grant Hill then it's not a guarantee but still a likely possibility. Grant Hill is probably the most MJ at the time but he was a baby. No disrespect with the baby remark, he was just new and inexperienced compared to MJ. Mitch Richmond would probably be a better replacement but does anyone think either would be enough? Wherever you send MJ will be a finals contender IMO. Not the same with Rodman. I respect the acknowledgement though.
@MrOneanddone9117 сағат бұрын
So you’re not dead!!!
@fortynights1513Күн бұрын
The NBA of the 1990’s may be overrated in some regards as far as a talent pool goes. But there is one thing that isn’t criticized here that that generation should be praised for after the last few years: The presentation of the league through the NBA on NBC in the 90’s was much better than the way the finals are covered now. Even the ABC of the 2000’s did a better job than they have lately.
@DontAsk-wn5kx3 күн бұрын
If the b*tches were playing the sport naked maybe they'd break even.
@ruasgoodasim4 күн бұрын
Shut it down no one will miss it.
@Alien_Nukes5 күн бұрын
Iverson bragged about not wanting to practice ,he was a horrible teammate and extremely overrated.
@ShadowOfDeathPsalm235 күн бұрын
Glad you're back.
@Rumble225-qe7fy6 күн бұрын
Would’ve been lot more in his first run with Cleveland those were his high flying days. I’d be interested to see how many times Shaq been blocked. That’s who media seems to think Lebron is 😂
@elwyndude7 күн бұрын
Give it 20-30 years and people will be saying the same about our current era. "Mike McHoops is a great player but he could never play with Lebron of Curry back in the day"
@fortynights15133 күн бұрын
Exactly. In many cases it takes time for people to realize the upsides of what they enjoyed. I can hear people say “back in LeBron’s and Curry’s era”
@reesematic38 күн бұрын
I never liked Larry brown
@thomasgirty63979 күн бұрын
it will NEVER be a win win with a product NOONE WATCH'S OR CARES ABOUT. 28 year's of failure and counting.
@fraa888grindr69 күн бұрын
100% of $0.00 equals ZERO. The truth is, the WNBA players should be PAYING to play.
@omen133810 күн бұрын
In other words Rose is better.
@christopherkettler872711 күн бұрын
Actually teammates have said melo is selfish in different words
@christopherkettler872711 күн бұрын
He never learned how to play team ball
@samhaigler171611 күн бұрын
Please keep the content coming!
@Viper_75th_RR12 күн бұрын
Got it, you’re a LeBronsexual. You just have to tear down other people to lift up your guy.
@wetwingnut12 күн бұрын
I'm with women. They should get the same percentage of profits as the men. So, send them all bills....
@stock929912 күн бұрын
Carmelo actually thinks he is the GOAT
@MrTommy032614 күн бұрын
The worm Dennis Rodman, one of the greatest rebounder's ever.
@jamesnadell199815 күн бұрын
It's sad bc Larry Brown is a great coach. Mixed bag as a person, or so it seems.
@andrewsmith551215 күн бұрын
Tracy McGrady would average 40ppg at least in todays game so if he’s “overrated” then what the hell are the players in todays soft era?
@matts_biz16 күн бұрын
I'm a huge MJ fan. But Dennis was my second favorite Bulls player during that era & I honestly thought he was the NBA Finals MVP in real time for that series. Great video. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Peace.
@drizzejohnson576716 күн бұрын
So funny, the decade Lakers win nothing , & MJ wins 6, these dudes claim nba wasn’t good lol
@jackjackthompson577116 күн бұрын
Brown was a horrible guy…F em..
@soramirez547316 күн бұрын
yes its not the 90s anymore.. seems like the youg kids are the ones stuck on this.. the old heads are just saying it was better before. thats not a fact and its not false either. ratings have been the lowest in the last 5 years, with 2020 being the LOWEST EVER.. the 90s had the HIGHEST ratings EVER.. the highest period of ratings for the NBA was from 1982 to 2001. since 2001 not ONE year has had higher ratings than the LOWEST YEAR from 1982 to 1 2001.. you guys talk about how good todays NBA is but nobody is watching. you guys just catch the highlights.
@fortynights151314 күн бұрын
To be fair, 01-02 was the last season where the bulk of the playoffs was on network television, and most programs are lucky to be able to replicate the ratings they put up in the 90’s or even 2000’s now with how fractured media consumption tendencies are. Not saying that it automatically makes the current generation better, but if you go off of raw ratings with no adjustments, you’ll sell more recent shows and broadcasts short.
@soramirez547314 күн бұрын
@@fortynights1513 that could be a factor.. but the reality is ppl today don’t care as much back then. Young ppl even say it themselves, the watch the highlights.. it doesn’t prove basketball is better or worse, it only shows that WE loved it MORE than today
@fortynights151312 күн бұрын
@@soramirez5473If you want to go by that, then I could see why you would say a greater share of NBA fans consumed whole games in the 90’s as opposed to now. But part of it might also be the general evolution of the average attention span. If people’s attention spans were as short as they are now in the 1990’s, then more people would probably have watched SportsCenter highlights like people watch KZread clips or other social media feeds now. Either way, the way people approach the league has certainly changed.
@fortynights151312 күн бұрын
@@soramirez5473 Two other things: 1. Could it be argued that the talent pool was better in the early 90’s than the mid to late 90’s? And 2. The teams he referred to as good but with inflated records (Sonics, Suns with Barkley, Heat, Spurs, and I’ll throw in the Jazz who are shown at the end of the segment): How good should those teams be considered for what they were, and how many games do you think they could have won in an average league?
@soramirez547311 күн бұрын
@@fortynights1513 that COULD be true, but its all just conjecture. for all the bravado today's youth talks, they dont even care about the game. While "older" fans enjoyed basketball from 1980 to the late 2000s and started to turn away in the modern era. why the sudden hate? young kids have no choice, its all they know
@2playschemeo.p.croutes72416 күн бұрын
He was a 4x scoring champ and a 3x steals champ. He earned his status. 2-way player
@jasonbabilonia303716 күн бұрын
And that's how you destroy a players confidence, jalen was no scrub.
@TheSpinnerRack16 күн бұрын
He had a bad start with Chauncey Billups too.
@SnitchandSnacks16 күн бұрын
"NBA has 70% ownership of the WNBA." This is the ONLY REASON why the WNBA is still alive today. NBA is losing a lot of money to keep the WNBA business alive despite WNBA being a losing business. 22 years in a row and losing millions each year, and these WNBA players have the audacity to get infront of the national television and complain about not being paid enough. Aren't these ladies thought of basic economy before they get to suit up a jersey and dribble a ball?
@EndoftheTownProductions16 күн бұрын
Why does Jalen have a bat?
@jamesball574317 күн бұрын
So player talked trash to his coach and got less minutes? That tracks.
@alxx29217 күн бұрын
25:56 completely ignoring games 4 and 5 like why? Do those games somehow not matter in the discussion?
@tomdemay61477 күн бұрын
because Bulls lost those games and Shawn Kemp was MVP of those games and this is a discussion about who was more valuable to the Bulls wins, MJ or Rodman.
@alxx2926 күн бұрын
@@tomdemay6147 so if a team loses a game in the finals, that game should then not be considered in an argument for finals mvp?
@tomdemay61476 күн бұрын
@@alxx292 no, if a team loses a finals in less than 7 games, and the best player on the losing team isn't breaking records or getting insane stats then no that player shouldn't be mvp. you really arguing that shawn kemp should have been mvp?
@alxx29217 күн бұрын
24:09 he’s giving him credit for making the simplest passes ever bro 😭
@alxx29217 күн бұрын
20:33 I wonder why he completely ignores game 4 🤔🤔🤔maybe it’s because Rodman grabbed 8 offensive rebounds that game and the bulls still lost
@alxx29217 күн бұрын
Maybe rodmans offensive rebounds weren’t why they were winning games ??!
@tomdemay61479 күн бұрын
because that's immaterial to the argument that he is making.
@alxx2929 күн бұрын
@@tomdemay6147well no because game 4 was still part of the series
@alxx29217 күн бұрын
18:55 this just made me laugh because why are you using “frank brickowski” to prop up Rodman 😹 like bro it’s not like he was scoring 30 points
@BH0237717 күн бұрын
Jalen rose is the quintessential “wannabe”!
@blarae5017 күн бұрын
Jalen Rose stayed too long in the league
@KHLB51617 күн бұрын
Is it possible to tell a story any slower?
@user-dv3do1od2r17 күн бұрын
Larry Brown is a great coach, but a weird guy. He had a vendetta against Jalen.
@younglove336218 күн бұрын
The Westbrook haters are eating this video 📹 up. 😆 🤣 😂
@knowEgo18 күн бұрын
Your video is disingenuous…there were only a few teams that played bully ball as you describe! By your logic if all they were all committing flagrant fouls, then there should have been more scoring from fouls shots and shooting technical fouls! The game was more physical and harder to score overall because you took less three and there were more players penetrating to the basket into legit shoot blockers something you don’t have today!
@LBJisBOULESPORTSANDPOLIT-tl3so18 күн бұрын
We all Had coaches like that
@greekfreakfan19 күн бұрын
KD is da GOAT
@67Lich19 күн бұрын
Brown was a PoS only reason he won in Detroit was because of Ben and Chauncey, too strong leaders. So he could talk to them and THEY could get the message to the team.
@cutedoggos809320 күн бұрын
This channel made Basketball interesting to me and miss the content.
@EddiePReacts20 күн бұрын
Some of the forwards you have above him are hilarious. He's overrated but damn, Melo would torch some of those old school dudes
@EddiePReacts20 күн бұрын
He came back and left again
@user-vl2ig6bz6c21 күн бұрын
The 97-98 Vancouver Grizzlies would easily make the play-offs in today's shitty era of basketball.
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I understand that Rodman was absolutely the guy that the bulls needed and I'd possibly would consider him as MVP but Rodman on any other team is not an MVP, not for the pistons and not for the spurs. I understand Rodman on the bulls is a different beast but all the same MJ is MVP. Rodman is hard to replace but not as hard as it is to replace MJ. The thing is Rodman is so good at his position that he basically takes up 2 positions of PF and C but MJ is so good that he takes up PG, SG, and SF. Rodman is great but without MJ they lose and without Rodman they still possibly win. Like if you take out Rodman and insert Hakeem then you win but if you take out MJ and replace with Penny or Grant Hill then it's not a guarantee but still a likely possibility. Grant Hill is probably the most MJ at the time but he was a baby. No disrespect with the baby remark, he was just new and inexperienced compared to MJ. Mitch Richmond would probably be a better replacement but does anyone think either would be enough? Wherever you send MJ will be a finals contender IMO. Not the same with Rodman. I respect the acknowledgement though.
So you’re not dead!!!
The NBA of the 1990’s may be overrated in some regards as far as a talent pool goes. But there is one thing that isn’t criticized here that that generation should be praised for after the last few years: The presentation of the league through the NBA on NBC in the 90’s was much better than the way the finals are covered now. Even the ABC of the 2000’s did a better job than they have lately.
If the b*tches were playing the sport naked maybe they'd break even.
Shut it down no one will miss it.
Iverson bragged about not wanting to practice ,he was a horrible teammate and extremely overrated.
Glad you're back.
Would’ve been lot more in his first run with Cleveland those were his high flying days. I’d be interested to see how many times Shaq been blocked. That’s who media seems to think Lebron is 😂
Give it 20-30 years and people will be saying the same about our current era. "Mike McHoops is a great player but he could never play with Lebron of Curry back in the day"
Exactly. In many cases it takes time for people to realize the upsides of what they enjoyed. I can hear people say “back in LeBron’s and Curry’s era”
I never liked Larry brown
it will NEVER be a win win with a product NOONE WATCH'S OR CARES ABOUT. 28 year's of failure and counting.
100% of $0.00 equals ZERO. The truth is, the WNBA players should be PAYING to play.
In other words Rose is better.
Actually teammates have said melo is selfish in different words
He never learned how to play team ball
Please keep the content coming!
Got it, you’re a LeBronsexual. You just have to tear down other people to lift up your guy.
I'm with women. They should get the same percentage of profits as the men. So, send them all bills....
Carmelo actually thinks he is the GOAT
The worm Dennis Rodman, one of the greatest rebounder's ever.
It's sad bc Larry Brown is a great coach. Mixed bag as a person, or so it seems.
Tracy McGrady would average 40ppg at least in todays game so if he’s “overrated” then what the hell are the players in todays soft era?
I'm a huge MJ fan. But Dennis was my second favorite Bulls player during that era & I honestly thought he was the NBA Finals MVP in real time for that series. Great video. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Peace.
So funny, the decade Lakers win nothing , & MJ wins 6, these dudes claim nba wasn’t good lol
Brown was a horrible guy…F em..
yes its not the 90s anymore.. seems like the youg kids are the ones stuck on this.. the old heads are just saying it was better before. thats not a fact and its not false either. ratings have been the lowest in the last 5 years, with 2020 being the LOWEST EVER.. the 90s had the HIGHEST ratings EVER.. the highest period of ratings for the NBA was from 1982 to 2001. since 2001 not ONE year has had higher ratings than the LOWEST YEAR from 1982 to 1 2001.. you guys talk about how good todays NBA is but nobody is watching. you guys just catch the highlights.
To be fair, 01-02 was the last season where the bulk of the playoffs was on network television, and most programs are lucky to be able to replicate the ratings they put up in the 90’s or even 2000’s now with how fractured media consumption tendencies are. Not saying that it automatically makes the current generation better, but if you go off of raw ratings with no adjustments, you’ll sell more recent shows and broadcasts short.
@@fortynights1513 that could be a factor.. but the reality is ppl today don’t care as much back then. Young ppl even say it themselves, the watch the highlights.. it doesn’t prove basketball is better or worse, it only shows that WE loved it MORE than today
@@soramirez5473If you want to go by that, then I could see why you would say a greater share of NBA fans consumed whole games in the 90’s as opposed to now. But part of it might also be the general evolution of the average attention span. If people’s attention spans were as short as they are now in the 1990’s, then more people would probably have watched SportsCenter highlights like people watch KZread clips or other social media feeds now. Either way, the way people approach the league has certainly changed.
@@soramirez5473 Two other things: 1. Could it be argued that the talent pool was better in the early 90’s than the mid to late 90’s? And 2. The teams he referred to as good but with inflated records (Sonics, Suns with Barkley, Heat, Spurs, and I’ll throw in the Jazz who are shown at the end of the segment): How good should those teams be considered for what they were, and how many games do you think they could have won in an average league?
@@fortynights1513 that COULD be true, but its all just conjecture. for all the bravado today's youth talks, they dont even care about the game. While "older" fans enjoyed basketball from 1980 to the late 2000s and started to turn away in the modern era. why the sudden hate? young kids have no choice, its all they know
He was a 4x scoring champ and a 3x steals champ. He earned his status. 2-way player
And that's how you destroy a players confidence, jalen was no scrub.
He had a bad start with Chauncey Billups too.
"NBA has 70% ownership of the WNBA." This is the ONLY REASON why the WNBA is still alive today. NBA is losing a lot of money to keep the WNBA business alive despite WNBA being a losing business. 22 years in a row and losing millions each year, and these WNBA players have the audacity to get infront of the national television and complain about not being paid enough. Aren't these ladies thought of basic economy before they get to suit up a jersey and dribble a ball?
Why does Jalen have a bat?
So player talked trash to his coach and got less minutes? That tracks.
25:56 completely ignoring games 4 and 5 like why? Do those games somehow not matter in the discussion?
because Bulls lost those games and Shawn Kemp was MVP of those games and this is a discussion about who was more valuable to the Bulls wins, MJ or Rodman.
@@tomdemay6147 so if a team loses a game in the finals, that game should then not be considered in an argument for finals mvp?
@@alxx292 no, if a team loses a finals in less than 7 games, and the best player on the losing team isn't breaking records or getting insane stats then no that player shouldn't be mvp. you really arguing that shawn kemp should have been mvp?
24:09 he’s giving him credit for making the simplest passes ever bro 😭
20:33 I wonder why he completely ignores game 4 🤔🤔🤔maybe it’s because Rodman grabbed 8 offensive rebounds that game and the bulls still lost
Maybe rodmans offensive rebounds weren’t why they were winning games ??!
because that's immaterial to the argument that he is making.
@@tomdemay6147well no because game 4 was still part of the series
18:55 this just made me laugh because why are you using “frank brickowski” to prop up Rodman 😹 like bro it’s not like he was scoring 30 points
Jalen rose is the quintessential “wannabe”!
Jalen Rose stayed too long in the league
Is it possible to tell a story any slower?
Larry Brown is a great coach, but a weird guy. He had a vendetta against Jalen.
The Westbrook haters are eating this video 📹 up. 😆 🤣 😂
Your video is disingenuous…there were only a few teams that played bully ball as you describe! By your logic if all they were all committing flagrant fouls, then there should have been more scoring from fouls shots and shooting technical fouls! The game was more physical and harder to score overall because you took less three and there were more players penetrating to the basket into legit shoot blockers something you don’t have today!
We all Had coaches like that
KD is da GOAT
Brown was a PoS only reason he won in Detroit was because of Ben and Chauncey, too strong leaders. So he could talk to them and THEY could get the message to the team.
This channel made Basketball interesting to me and miss the content.
Some of the forwards you have above him are hilarious. He's overrated but damn, Melo would torch some of those old school dudes
He came back and left again
The 97-98 Vancouver Grizzlies would easily make the play-offs in today's shitty era of basketball.