Thanks for Watching!!!

@agk9276

4 жыл бұрын

W

@1smallball

4 жыл бұрын

I dont care about basketball but I watch all of your videos. Shows how great a job you do.

@LordCaltricBlue

4 жыл бұрын

Where you goat?

@MelvinJ64

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for continuing to take the time to create such great, clear and cerebral content.

@ogbmt

4 жыл бұрын

They should make a new category for: 40% from 3 point shots 50% from 2 point shots outside the paint 60% from 2 point shots inside the paint 90% from the free throw line

When I saw a notification from Basketball Examinated, I clicked faster than the speed of light.

@deserthobo

4 жыл бұрын

same lol, wish he'd make more videos but i guess when your videos are of such high quality, they take a lot of time to make!

KD is a monster

@LordCaltricBlue

4 жыл бұрын

A scoring goat?

@Shawn.Mathew

4 жыл бұрын

Calvin Bacu lets see him play with hand checking, if harden could average 36ppg ref baiting Jordan could average 50ppg in today’s league

@LordCaltricBlue

4 жыл бұрын

Lol Hand checking not gonna do anything to KD lol if MJ wants to average 50 points and go 20-62 with a 15th place record be my guess lol

@BePatientSeeLove

4 жыл бұрын

@@LordCaltricBlue but he won 6 titles I'm confused

@LordCaltricBlue

4 жыл бұрын

Donzel, you cant win rings averaging over 32ppg for 82 games, his 4 greatest scoring season he didn't win a ring from that. Elgin Baylor had 3 over 34ppg seasons but didnt win. You can throw in Harden's 36, Kobe's 35 in there too.

I find this channel shows proper deference for Kevin Durant, the basketball player. Unfortunately most people, fans and media, tend to denigrate him based on narratives and refuse to appreciate his basketball sublimity.

@wavenstein

4 жыл бұрын

Lebron stans denigrating his competition is all

@clutchmaster0039

4 жыл бұрын

We're not denying his skill in basketball in my opinion he's simply the best scorer of all time. It's just that off the court to put it in simpler terms he's a bitch

@Shawn.Mathew

4 жыл бұрын

ClutchMaster00 yup every time we are ready to give him props he does dumb shit, when lebron was in Miami he never acted the way kd been acting in golden state, no one is denying kd is one of the all time greats but he has this beta Male mentality that rubs people the wrong way

@joelman1989

4 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure why basketball fans treat the sport like it’s the WWE. Who cares if lebron went to Miami or KD went to Washington, these guys are neither “good guys” not “bad guys.” They’re professionals making moves for their careers. That’s it. Should be no “narrative.”

@DonkeyKong5479

4 жыл бұрын

For real. It’s fine if you’re still butthurt about his move, but that doesn’t take away from his greatness as a basketball player

Please roast the dude on ESPN who said Russ > KD based on stats.

@moisejoassaint4185

4 жыл бұрын

Pow Getrekt Yess

@genericname7020

4 жыл бұрын

Pow Getrekt who said that?

The fact that Al Horford is on here shows how efficient he is on the court even though he isn’t looked upon to take a large portion of the scoring load. He can always be counted on when he’s needed.

@bobbyvalentino6773

4 жыл бұрын

Yea he used to make a high percentage of his pick n pop shots with kyrie

I like this dude he knows his shit I wonder if Shaun Livingston was apart of this crew he always hits the midrange shots

@KxngKUDA

4 жыл бұрын

Nah he wouldnt qualify, doesnt take enough long range shots

@elliteMonkeygaming

4 жыл бұрын

What about the 50 50 club

How were Steve Nash and Kevin Durant perfectly in sync with each other, even with the arm swings

You have an excellent channel sir with SUPERB content. I hear these things probably nowhere else that I can recall...Blessings!

Love you’re graphics, editing, and commentary! Bless!

The Kobe haters are gonna come out for this one haha. Just keep in mind non of these players ever saw the kind of attention Kobe did on the court.

@swpdisciple

4 жыл бұрын

For a huge bulk of his career and prime Kobe didn’t see double teams like some of his perimeter contemporaries. He had the luxury of playing with prime Shaq from 96-2004 and Gasol/Bynum/Odom for the rest of his prime.

@40III

4 жыл бұрын

swpdisciple I guess Gasol & Bynum was out there dominating like Shaq did every night. Man there is so much footage of Kobe dealing with double teams and triple teams during the Shaq years and Gasol years.

@etxsports5836

4 жыл бұрын

@@swpdisciple True

@etxsports5836

4 жыл бұрын

Pau GASOL is a Bleacher report top 50 based on analytics

@swpdisciple

4 жыл бұрын

BigBarda i’ve watched a TON of hoop the past 30+ years (I’m 40). I specifically remember Kenny Jet Smith repeatedly saying “Kobe Bryant is the only superstar I can remember that’s able to play one on one” (para). Of course this was before the pace and space era (now) where the ball doesn’t stick as much and hardly any perimeter players consistently sees a double team like pre-2011 (the Mavericks really started pace and space en mass to the point where it’s league-wide now)

Always great to see an upload from you

Why you upload every 2 months? 😭😭😭 You're one of the few goods nba channels

@michaelvick4588

4 жыл бұрын

Content over quantity. It takes a few months to put perfect videos like this.

@stealthiscool

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Vick Quality over quantity*

@ouss

4 жыл бұрын

Mike Korzemba is better

@manuelcanelo6670

4 жыл бұрын

@@ouss Korzemba isn't even close. He just talk about rare topics (Get views). You don't need to know basketball to do that.

@Bubba___

4 жыл бұрын

Manuel Canelo facts

Good shit dawg. I always enjoy your quality content

The last time that you post a video was like in the 90’s

Been waiting on these 🔥🔥🔥 videos bro

The 👑 is back!!!

I really love your videos!!

Steve Nash the most underrated scorer ever imo, he CHOSE not to average 25+ he had everything from a scoring standpoint, footwork, slick finishing with both hands, mid range pull ups, 3pt shot, his playoff scoring was really impressive

Wow never clicked faster !!! Miss your great work my man !

One of the best basketball talk channels on youtube

You're videos are like therapy, keep going boss!

Best Basketball KZreadr and it's not even close. Love this dude

Your videos are GOATED

This channel is such W

I love how you show all these legends and then show danny green. Love ur videos.

Nice to see new vids again!

Great video man!

This video gets an automatic like. I don't even have to watch it.

Hey @Basketball Examined, what is the specific background instrumental in your videos? I really enjoy the smooth chill vibe

It's about time you dropped another video.

Yesss another video

Great vid. This is why Durant is so sick. Can score in anyway from anywhere on the court. Can should midrange and still have freaky efficiency overall. Probably greatest scorer of all-time efficiency and versatility-wise

How do you find the shooting numbers by distance on basketball reference? I can't find them.

KD really the best scorer since MJ

@user-ou5pm6gn9j

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, that's Kobe

@thegoldenhero

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-ou5pm6gn9j KD is a better scorer than Kobe...Kobe was a better ball handler and playmaker which probably made him easier to build around but KD could do just about everything Kobe could do and is 6 inches taller, has longer arms, and was better pure shooter...no one went on hotter streaks than Kobe though.

@user-ou5pm6gn9j

4 жыл бұрын

@@thegoldenhero KD is more efficient but even he will tell you Kobe is a better scorer than him. Kobe was shorter so the percentages are lower which is part of the reason KD is so deadly and one of the most entertaining players for me to watch personally and one of my favorites. But in all out dominant scoring you gotta look at the peaks Kobe had, I mean he had the obvious 81, he had 65 while sealing the game in OT, he had the 62 in 3 quarters and 61 at the garden, he had multiple other 60 point games and KD had a career high of 54 I believe. Kobe has averaged 40 for a month on 4 different occasions. Kobe averaged 35 in 06 which I don't think gets brought up enough. Also, KD played in an era were numbers are inflated these past few years since about 2015 you can say. Many rules have been put in place to make any good offensive player go from good to great and great to unguardable. Now his 2013-14 season came right before those changes and that in my opinion is one of the greatest single season performances there ever was top 10 easily, but these last few years have seen significant changes to the rule book

@thegoldenhero

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-ou5pm6gn9j since about 2015 you say well KD already won like 4 scoring titles before 2015...Kobe got hotter which is why i brought it up but if you talk about diversity in skills, shooting volume, and efficiency KD just wins out.

@user-ou5pm6gn9j

4 жыл бұрын

@@thegoldenhero KD had 2 scoring titles while averaging 27 and 28, yeah those are great but low scoring for a scoring titles. KD also has more opportunities at the basket than Kobe did, well duh because he's a 7 footer. He got more chances to shoot the 3 then Kobe did and that really speaks to this generation of the NBA. Kobe was surprisingly the better of the two in both high and low post situations. It's much easier for a big man to sauce up a guard but it's much harder for a guard to post up a big man, or at least those bigger than him. Kobe is a slept on scorer easily. I mean when he averaged 35 that was the best of all the 35 plus performances in my opinion and supported by fact. Kobe did it in a slower paced era were the average nba team was scoring 95 a game, and they played defense. The only other scoring season truly comparable to it was MJ in 86-87 and I'd personally choose Kobe as he had diversity with the three. KD had an efficient high scoring season but Kobe had an insane scoring season which was, all things considered, the best scoring season ever. Keep in mind I'm not counting Wilt or elgin baylor as they both played in era's I don't think are comparable whatsoever and I'm including Rick Barry because he came somewhat after the wilt era and actually had a jumper. KD is definitely the more efficient scorer but not the greater one. Now if you aren't convinced lets just agree to disagree

First subscriber right here!!!

I didn’t realize it was Basketball Examined until I heard the beat

Need more vids from you!!

goated channel

Steve Nash wearing Golden State gear baffled me.

I really really HATE when people keep talkin about Kobe's efficiency without tellin the whole story. Kobe played in a different era. Another thing people don't realize is one of the reasons why Kobe's shooting percentage ain't as high is because Kobe was the shot clock shooter. He took the bad shots just to have a shot when the shot clock was about to expire. I'm talking 2-4 seconds left and you just throw up a shot. Kobe didn't give a fucK about shootin percentage and the perception of all that. He just wanted to win. There's so much I be saying that NOBODY in media or KZread mentions. I'm about to start making KZread videos.

@javierdelgado1554

4 жыл бұрын

Playing in a "different" era has nothing to do with it. Kobe wasnt a great shooter period. Why make up excuses for why he wasnt a great shooter. Kobe was a great player but not a great shooter... and theres nothing wrong with that.

@JaeBee1718

4 жыл бұрын

@@javierdelgado1554 do you know how ridiculously dumb you sound. Kobe wasn't a great shooter ? Kobe is the greatest tough shot maker of all time. FucK you mean he wasn't a great shooter ?

@junior3082

4 жыл бұрын

Javier Delgado He broke 2 3 point records!

If Kobe stayed in Charlotte and not gotten traded to the Lakers...he would've had a Vince Carter type career. Where you go means everything.

@Grapehunter420

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, you could of also replaced kobe on those 3 peat teams and whoever you replaced kobe with would have gotten 3 titles too. The team would have also been better.

@mattmannlvca

4 жыл бұрын

@@Grapehunter420 They honestly couldn't I'm not the biggest Kobe fan but the reason they won was because nights against the Kings and Trailblazer it was him and Shaq and with the triangle that emphasizes ball movement and cuts plus role players like Robert Horry, D Dish and vets like Glen Rice the Lakers had pieces but the two main were Kobe and Shaq finally I'll trust Jerry West decision making over a youtube commentor

@Grapehunter420

4 жыл бұрын

You think if you replaced kobe with Vince carter that team doesn’t win? Gary Payton? Ray Allen? Like you could have put a few guys on that team who were more efficient scorers and they would have been better. And trusting jerry west over a KZread commenter is a nice try at a little shot, it was quite cute.

@mattmannlvca

4 жыл бұрын

@@Grapehunter420 no cause Vince Carter's biggest issue when he played was defense and he was on teams with good defenders. Also again Jerry West drafted Kobe and he could've drafted others but chose Kobe.

@Grapehunter420

4 жыл бұрын

Defense would’ve held back shaq and carter? No. Shaq was in his absolute prime and no one was stopping him from 2000-2002 no matter what star level perimeter player you paired him with. Ok he drafted kobe and? That just because he knew he would ultimately be the better player and that isn’t even debatable, but you could of put some other players there and the lakers would still have won 3 straight.

W vid

I think the 50/40/90 club is a great judge for star or high usage players and the 50/50 would be great to use to build up the complementary or role players. The role players have to maximize their usage even more than the star because of their limited opportunities. This is where I agree with analytics.

Interesting 🧐

Very interesting metric I think the real hardcore hoop-heads knew Kobe shot a lot of contested perimeter shots so no way he could be in that group. I find it interesting that Rip Hamilton isn’t apart of that group. I’d like to see where Paul Pierce ranks. Good stuff.

It’s been awhile

Still waiting for that promised Kareem vid!

I like how you say it was founded by Larry Bird. That’s just such a beautiful way to pay respects. Edit: In your intro

Dont sleep on Malcolm brogdon

what is the exact name of the instrumental? 🔥🔥

@PerryEdwardSmith

4 жыл бұрын

soul by chuki beats

Yo what’s the name of the background song you use

@playthatagainbruh394

4 жыл бұрын

Soul

Let’s talk about it

Welcome Back my nigga

Here after Kyrie just joined the club this year and also shot 50/40/90

Al Horford being on that list de-ligitimizes that stat... jk.

I had no Malcolm Brogdon was in 50/40/90 club

@Top-Kek

4 жыл бұрын

Just happened. Not like he’s a remarkable player though

Steve Nash is a beast. Media members and Shaq lovers keep discrediting him.

Even with 2 MVP's, Nash is underrated

Take this idea and chart some old school players on these classic games they upload

Wonder if wilt chamberlain ever did this.

@whitchellegera291

4 жыл бұрын

He smashed this. You can't average 50pts if you miss a lot.

Kobe efficient ?

Nah, your video is missing some key stats. Assisted baskets vs non-assisted baskets. Hortford doesnt put the ball on the ground, he just catches and shots. Also, how close were the defenders to each player? You can get these with all of the new tracking data. When you get this information, you can determine if these shots were the same. You assume that all long range shots are the exact same thus you are able to compare them one to one. This isnt the case. I never understand why people devoid stats of the environment in which they are created. The question that should be asked is, were Kobe's and Rip's shot the same as Hortford's? The answer...no.

@AatVandelay

4 жыл бұрын

Even so,there's no real argument about Kobe's inefficiency. Even metrics like total offense or sps are attempting to answer the same questions - did these shooters make the best decisions by shooting rather than passing? And intuitively Horford and most efficient old school centers balanced that better than individualists like Kobe. One more aside is that it is possible for players to dominate shooting effiicency in net without leading any of these zonal categories, like Lebron. That's possible due to having above average shooting skills in many zones and being disciplined in that shoot vs pass goal optimization.

Oh so you alive alive?

People dont talk about it because nba players dont shoot midrange jumpers anymore.

Its quite simply a stat that doesn't really matter

If only Al Horford was aggressive offensively.

I wonder how Dirk missed the cut?

you don’t think horford getting wide open shots off pick and pops because the defense doesn’t want kyrie or tatum to shoot is the reason for that? you comparing early 2000s players where everyone’s shooting % was low because it was the toughest defensive era, to today where the floor is spaced out and there’s the freedom of movement rules?

@40III

4 жыл бұрын

Billy Fresh Right. That’s a huge factor.

@BasketballExamined

4 жыл бұрын

1. If Horford is just getting those off of pick and pops, then why aren't L. Aldrige, B. Griffin, J. Embiid, K. Porzingis, and A. Davis also doing any of this? Why weren't Chris Bosh and K. Love also doing this when Kyrie and LeBron were playmaking? It's more than just teammates, it's skill, IQ (knowing the right shots to take)... etc. 2. Did you not see Jason Terry (4:00). That was in 2004-05. Kobe never even came close at any point in his career to doing this and his last season at a high level was in 2012-13 when he averaged 27 PPG (just 2 seasons before the Warriors Era that started in 2015).

@billyfresh23

4 жыл бұрын

Basketball Examined literally all of those dudes shoot like 5+ more shots than horford does lol. all those dudes are the number one scoring option on their teams, the hell type of question is that? i don’t get any of these comparisons, kobe’s lack of efficiency wasn’t due to lack of ability to make shots but taking bad shots (i’m not even much of a kobe guy either) he’s obviously a better jump shooter than jokic and horford bro cmon

@BasketballExamined

4 жыл бұрын

@@billyfresh23 1. Hey, you made a great point. So since the players I mentioned are all #1 Options and take more shots than Horford who attempts 10.6 shots a game, then how about E.Kanter (10.2), J.Grant(10.3), R.Covington(10.3), M.Turner(10.5), T.Young(10.4), R.Gay(10.8) and T.Prince(10.8) ? Why aren't they putting up the same type of efficiency numbers as Horford? 2. Kobe was a competent and streaky shooter, but not a great one. His lack of efficiency was a result of his bad selection which is also a reflection of his basketball IQ. 3. Kobe being a better shooter than Horford is your opinion, not a fact. Al Horford has better shooting numbers than Kobe Bryant across the board except for 10-16ft where he shoots 43.8% to Kobe's 43.9%. Just because Kobe Bryant shot more and plays more on the perimeter doesn't make him a better shooter, Al Horford may play closer to the basket because that's where he is the most effective as a player. As for Jokic, it is too early in his career to tell.

@billyfresh23

4 жыл бұрын

Basketball Examined 1. why? because he’s better than those guys, he’s a good player will never deny that. 2. i agree with this point also. 3. fair that it’s my opinion, but do you take into account his shot making ability irrespective of his efficiency numbers? (again i’m no kobe stan)

No wonder Al left Boston

What it doesn’t take in to account is how the overall league efficiency The 2000s was some of the least efficient and slow paced era in league history and if anything the shows how much Nash deserved those two mvps over Shaq and Kobe

@Thanosdidtherighthing

4 жыл бұрын

Tauno Hill Well you have to factor in volume and defensive attention and they edge him out in those categories but Nash’s biggest argument is the record he lead his team to

No what talks about it because these are not stats that can be easily found on a box score or typical stat sheet

I wonder if MJ would be in the 50/50

@LolzerXD2014

4 жыл бұрын

Yesn't Tanner He’s never had a 50/50 season

Basically KD is a beast

KD 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐 just different. efficient, talented, sniper-scorer, baller swag, member of the 50-40-90 club. got all that

I've always said that the knock on Kobe was his efficiency or lack thereof. The more he shot the less his teams won and the more his shooting percentage went down. A lot of "analysts" never talk about it or overlook his shooting percentage. I rather have a guy that takes 10 shots but makes 6 or 7 than a guy who takes 30+ and makes less than half... that's just me though. I know a guy with Kobes talent is not going to take 10 shots per game but if you're going to take 30 plus shots you better make at least 50% or else it's going to make you look selfish and a ballhog.

@Thanosdidtherighthing

4 жыл бұрын

Javier Delgado You’re forgetting a major component though: 9/10 times when your volume increases your %’s down. You start facing more double teams, teams zone more, you get more fatigued. teams start sending their best defenders at you, etc. Lebron is known for his efficiency and its true; he’s efficient. The catch is that not only is he getting most of his points within 8 feet but he’s shooting 16-20 shots a game. When you start taking 23+ shots a game like Harden and Kobe , its impossible to be at 50%.

@yurhomi4478

4 жыл бұрын

Diego Velazquez If it’s impossible why did Jordan shoot over 50% from the field (from a quick glance), from 2-4 times on 23+ attempts? Harden and Jordan cannot be compared to another when you’re looking at iQ and knowledge and when to pick their shots.

@Thanosdidtherighthing

4 жыл бұрын

Yurhomi 24 I said it’s virtually impossible and Jordan was more athletic than both of those players which helped his fg% finishing at the rim. That’s why if you look at MJ’s % as he got older, they declined. That dosen’t mean he isn’t GOAT. I’m just explained the nature of efficiency. Harden has one of the highest true shooting %’s in the league right now.

@yurhomi4478

4 жыл бұрын

Diego Velazquez that I can agree with.

@Kirbystare1992

4 жыл бұрын

Javier Delgado so why is Steve Nash the only mvp to not even make the finals if efficiency is this be all end that you’re trying to paint it to be? He went 50/40/90 4 times most in nba history.

I don’t think this disproves Kobe as a mid range shooter. If you look at the numbers the only thing he’s inefficient in is the long range, one of the most inefficient shots in basketball while he’s mid to high 40s in mid range and short range

@Thanosdidtherighthing

4 жыл бұрын

XxZeroxX Of course not, that’s why there are assisted versus non assisted points

No Kawhi Leonard in your 50/40/90 club

@Jburneyjr

4 жыл бұрын

@@steff2738 he said he named all of the guys in the club so why leave out someone who's a current player, and im sure there were more in history.

@Jburneyjr

4 жыл бұрын

@@steff2738 fansided.com/2016/01/01/kawhi-leonard-hits-the-50-50-90-mark/

This is interesting, but I still have some issues 1. The 50/40/90 is based on excellence in relation to historical league avg. as a reference point. I don’t think 50% from 0-3 ft is all that elite. Probably 65 to 70% would be a better representative of excellence 2. The 50/40/90 minimum criteria is based on shots made not attempted. So you need to make 82 3P’s. Which means you were probably shooting 3 pointers at least 3 times a game. 82 attempts just seems like it doesn’t give a large enough sample size. 3. Most of the time people are shooting from 10 ft to the 3 pt line is due to a breakdown in the offensive scheme or a failed drive. So if your shooting a High percentage these shots it means A. You teams has crappy spacing or B you are a weak finisher. Either way your choosing to take a inefficient shot so not much to be celebrated.

Kobe still is a great mid-range shooter since he took hard shots

@Jboooog18

4 жыл бұрын

lmaooooooooo bruhhhhh

@yurhomi4478

4 жыл бұрын

That is not a good argument to support your claim man.

@foalengtoussaintfoaleng7291

4 жыл бұрын

@@yurhomi4478 okay Kobe shot an above average percentage from mid-range while shooting a lot of them, in this vid there's guys like Al Horford who only take catch and shoot

@yurhomi4478

4 жыл бұрын

Foaleng Toussaint fair enough, you need context applied to stats to fully understand what’s happening.

Im glad i saw this video, people have this love affair with Kobe but in reality he was never as good as people think he was, he was a high volume shooter, not an effective one.

You should watch thinking basketball's vid about why fg is bs

How r u gonna put Kobe’s face on the thumbnail like that and then say he was good at midrange but bad at 3s

I'm not sure I agree with your conclusion that it's necessarily special to be in this 'club' because of the lack of people involved. Take Curry for example, his efficiencies at every spot on the court indicate crazy %s, but you're unlikely to see him take 82 attempts at the midrange during the season, because he can take a step back and go for the 3 instead, or drive and take that 0-3 feet shot. You just won't get a lot of the more efficient scorers in the league taking midrange shots as time progresses, which is why the 50/40/90 ends up being the gold standard.

KD's efficiency in clutch time is shit

Kevin Durant soooo underappreciated it's tragic. All because of narratives

@BrandAccount-ec2rx

4 жыл бұрын

nike tells espn to say lebron is the best but in reality KD has been the king for the past five years

@swpdisciple

4 жыл бұрын

Jerome Inniss he could have won with OKC. They were actually significantly more talented than GS. It’s not like Lebron’s first 7 years in Cleveland where he didn’t have enough talent around him and no chance to attract a great free agent. The beauty of the NBA and what makes the rings worth more than the other sports is the lack of interchangeability of the rings. Each one (mostly) belongs to the best player on the team. Like, GS in 2017 &18, you might be able to swap out Durant down to the Bradley Beal level (still an excellent player) and still win. There’s very few NBA champions in the modern era that you can say that about.

@RLSmith-jt8qj

4 жыл бұрын

But the reality of the NBA is once you do not trust that the organization that you're part of can facilitate your goals it's time to bounce

This is a bit deceptive. At least when it comes into play regarding Kobe Bryant. The Triangle offense doesn't really utilize mid range scoring at all. It's dump to the post and kick out and around to hit 3 point shooters or make passes to cutters. How many open shots did Steve Nash get from Pick and Roll's? Probably more in one season than Kobe had in his entire career.

@javierdelgado1554

4 жыл бұрын

Kobe was a ball of that didn't always run the triangle. Kobe was all about himself.... always was and always has been.

I think that KD is a great scorer but the fact is that a player like Kobe who played in the 2000s primarily went up against some of the greatest defenders of all time, was a guard, and due to his era's slower pace didn't shot as well, is still a greater scorer. If you adjust the pace of Kobe's 05-06 season to today, he has had by far the greatest scoring season of the past 30 yrs. This is on 45% from the field and not accounting for what the change in space and pacing would do to his fg%.

@bondsgoat25

Жыл бұрын

Uh no, idk if you’ve been watching to much Johnny Arnett But adjusted for era, per 100 possessions Hardens 2019 season is the highest scoring season ever, over wilts 50 PPG season, MJs 37 PPG season and Kobe’s 35 PPG season!

@user-ou5pm6gn9j

Жыл бұрын

@@bondsgoat25 Yeah, but when you adjust Kobe's pace to the 2018-19 season he averages more than harden. Did you miss that part? Per 100 possessions doesn't really mean much when if you adjust for pace either way, meaning adjust kobe's season to the 2018-19 pace, or harden's season to the 2005-06 pace, kobe averages more. 🤣. The pace was at 100 in the 2018-19 season, Kobe averaged only 0.7 ppg less in a season where the pace was at just 90.5. Come on, don't play that shit.

@bondsgoat25

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ou5pm6gn9j the reason Harden still averages more is because he was FAR more efficient then Kobe. Kobe shot: 48.2% On 2s Harden shot: 52.8% On 2s Kobe shot: 34.7% On 2s Harden shot: 36.8% On 2s Kobe shot: 85.0% On FTs Harden shot: 87.9% On FTs Kobe had a: 55.9 True Shooting% Harden shot: 61.6 True Shooting% Kobe had a: 49.1 EFG% Harden had a: 52.8 EFG% Kobe shot a lot more then harden did, just pro rating his shots with another pace makes no sense.

@user-ou5pm6gn9j

Жыл бұрын

@@bondsgoat25 Harden wasn't more efficient than kobe, his percentages were just higher because of the era he played in. Defenses were weaker as well, let's also not forget Harden shot 13 3's a game, so that 3 pt % doesn't look so good. Even as a fan of both, you have to acknowledge the foul baiting and light travel calls helped Harden a lot. You may try and bring up the fact that Harden only averaged 1 more ft, but A, it's so clear to see that the defense in the 2018-19 season was not nearly as good nor physical s it was in the 2005-06 season, and B, the foul baiting allowed harden to get to the rim more because players were scared to get foul calls on him due to how he foul baited. That wouldn't have worked in the 05-06 season and it's also risky even now with some slight rule changes. Harden wasn't a more efficient player, he just had the advantage of era. Kobe was still the better scorer easily, especially considering that even without foul baiting he averages more when adjusting for era. Now add in Kobe's 3 pt attempts going up and getting more foul calls.

@bondsgoat25

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ou5pm6gn9j Bro what are you talking about? Harden in 2011…. You know, when Kobe was still in his prime, had a (to this day) career high 66% True shooting percentage. James harden as a rookie of the bench in 2009!! had a 55.1 True Shooting Percentage which is higher than Kobe’s career true shooting percentage. Harden has always had elite efficiency since the beginning unlike Kobe. and as for fouls, both of them are major floppers, Kobe actually invented a lot of the foul baiting moves harden uses, like harden hooking his defenders arm, Kobe invented that and would hook his defenders arm when fighting for post position and actually did it TO HARDEN in the 2012 playoffs. Kobe also used Reggie millers move of kicking his leg out after a jumper to draw fouls. When it comes to who’s actually better at naturally drawing fouls, it’s undoubtedly harden, harden is his prime.. very well has a case to be the second greatest driver of the basketball behind Lebron obviously, while other guards like Wade and Jordan have better speed and athleticism, they weren’t even close in terms of size and strength which Harden paired with all time handles, footwork and a elite first step.

Kobe and DeMar take very difficult ones... But so does KD... Thats why KD is all time better than them

@well.thy.one.

4 жыл бұрын

Katies a bish

@user-ou5pm6gn9j

4 жыл бұрын

KD is better than Kobe, yeah you don't know ball, Kobe didn't need 2 superstars

Look at Chris Paul being so sneakily great again. Mans is top 3 pg ever

@mattmannlvca

4 жыл бұрын

Over Johnson, Stockton, Thomas, Kidd the man hasn't been to the Finals at any point in his career

@jemirtoussaint3440

4 жыл бұрын

mattmannlvca All of those players played with people better than Chris Paul’s best teammates throughout their careers and getting to the finals in the west has never been a one man job as I’m sure you know. Also his health held him back which is no ones fault but his own but as you can see he is a consistent top performer when healthy. His rockets had gsw down 3-2 and they blew it when he went down. There’s no flaws in that mans game

@mattmannlvca

4 жыл бұрын

@@jemirtoussaint3440 there is and it's he never speeds the game up he walks the ball up and down the floor that's why his team's are the slowest in pace

@mattmannlvca

4 жыл бұрын

@@jemirtoussaint3440 Also Jason Kidd made the Finals with Kenyan Martin and Richard Jefferson while Chris Paul has had opportunities to go elsewhere but wanted his cake and to eat it too

@jemirtoussaint3440

4 жыл бұрын

mattmannlvca he couldn’t help that he was drafted by the hornets and then the league cancelled his trade to the lakers. All I know is wherever he played he balled out. Regular season and playoffs

Talking about steve nash and durant's efficiency.but highlighting kobe in the thumbnail. What kind of clickbait shit is this?

Actually you're wrong. The 50-50 club is useless in today's game. Durant is a less efficient offensive threat than Curry that is why Curry had a higher PIPM than Durant for the past two seasons on offense. The reason why Leonard is more so favored than Derozan is cause Derozan was one of the most inefficient high volume shooters in the league right now. Why? The fact that Kawhi has better rim finishing, 3 point attempts and 3 point % than Derozan and Derozan takes longer than Kawhi to make his pick-and-roll decisions. Kawhi rarely has seasons where he even comes close to entering the 50-50 club yet he is still the more efficient of the two.

Everybody knows Kobe and efficiency don't go together

@ivancalkins3645

4 жыл бұрын

If Kobe and Jordan both took 20 shots in a game, Kobe would've made 9 and Jordan 10. Considering Kobe played the bulk of his career when the NBA took away illegal defense and the league wasn't yet full of 3pt shooters to space the floor, that's pretty damn efficient.

better shooter KD or Steph

Numbers never, ever tell the whole story. The defenses have been adjusted, significantly, in favor of the offensive players (and casual fans’ enjoyment), along with the fact that some players listed never saw just a single set of hands contesting their shot, that close to the rim (inside the three point line and closer). Players like Kobe, Jordan, Dirk, even Ray Allen in the Bucks and Sonics days will not get the same looks as Steve Nash or Kevin Durant (Nash is a pass-first Point, KD was surrounded by shooters, so doubling him is virtually impossible). Even Jokic is surrounded by shooters and he’s a stretch big, so the ability to contest for a Center isn’t the same as a perimeter defender. Never, ever trust box scores and numbers. You’ll miss so much of the game that never makes it on a stat sheet.

Clear top 5 ever players: jordan, durant,james,jabbar, chamberlain.

@Pecan3.14

3 жыл бұрын

Durant isn't a top five player yet. He has top five ability, but when you're talking about the top five players ever, you have to lead a title team. Jordan, Kareem, Russel, Magic, Lebron, with Bird just outside the top five.

Ehhhh nah Kobe is still an efficient mid range shooter lol.

@Jboooog18

4 жыл бұрын

@DieuJose LeManifique ehhhh most but not KD

@user-ss1ky4tu8y

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jboooog18 81>54, 65>54, 62>54, 61>54, 60>54, 60>54.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 made up a club.

KD can’t win without Stephen curry

@marcusreed5862

3 жыл бұрын

Steph can't make the playoffs

@MrDiMES123

6 ай бұрын

@@marcusreed5862look Steph win another ring n kd still none

Kobe won games because of his drive and sheer will, that was unmatched. But he isn't one of the top players ever. To me it's even more impressive that a guy who isn't as talented or as good as others overachieved by pure will and destination, but Kobe fans will immediately start to hate because I said Kobe isn't as talented.