Drummer for Fox, Disney, Warner Records, and more, Tim Baltes focuses his energy today on teaching other musicians about drums, showcasing rare and interesting gear, and giving other drummers/percussionists food for thought. If you have questions or concerns, don't hesitate to seek out help from Tim through the contact form on TimBaltes.com or via DM at his TimboFromKeno Instagram page.
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Nice one! Those Steel Premier snares are great. Big open sounds for not very many pounds! But for how long?
Thanks! And I agree on the pricing. It’s gonna climb once people figure out how good this stuff is…and once they figure out how easy it is to get rid of the slotted tension rods. 😂😂
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Respect of your proved but, that 6lugs snare you still put mic on. So we dont hear how if its in the room and the snare sound itself.
That's fair. I always use a lot of room. It's just my thing. But there's close mics in there too. Definitely could have balanced it differently, though. Maybe next time!
I had steel Mastercraft and WISH I had never sold it. I got the drum with a 5 piece pewter Imperialstar set from around 1982.
Yeah, those were really great drums - the snare and the kit. And what's crazy is that even 10 years ago, in the US, you could still pick those kits up with the snares for a few hundred bucks. People just weren't hip to them!
when did Frank Black start playing drums and doing drum review uploads on YT ??
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If I’m correct they use Keller shells
They had these proprietary shells manufactured by Keller for the first run or two. Today, they use another shell manufacturer (there’s really only one other one, so that’ll limit your options). 😂😂
Six lug snares are awesome. To me they 'feel' better to play. Actually, most of my vintage snares are six luggers. Not only do the old WFL/Trans Badge 3-ply snares sound awesome - but the early 1920's nickel over brass snares are insane with 6 lugs. They sound way bigger than they look. My favorites are my late '40's WFL 3-ply with 6 lugs that is a 6.5x14, but actually measures about 6.7x14 - and with brass hoops - so much tone and body. The other is the Ludwig 1920 6-lug nickel over brass 2-pc shell.
You've got some really great drums in your collection! And I totally agree with the sentiment that they feel comfy to play. That's a great way to think about it!
@@timbofromkeno Maybe one day I'll get some proper mics :)
Nice distortion lol
I should’ve paid more than 20 bucks for a mic. 😂😂😂
@@timbofromkeno Yea it doesn’t matter. Content is great
@@JackNiles Thanks dude!
@@timbofromkeno are you still thankful lol 😂 kzread.infoZHBlr_TX9vQ?si=u4rpCm75ZKkYfP9z
A double 42 strand snare wire equals 84 strands
That would be insane. LOL
@@timbofromkeno yea, it sure would be funny if you made a video about it because of your personality. But maybe if you and RDavidR made a video together that would be funny. And it would probably help with your subscriber count.
@@JackNiles That would be wild. Dave recently reached out to me and I made some content for a video he's working on . Fingers crossed he includes it in his video in the near future!
@@timbofromkeno How many snare drums does it take for my girlfriend to breakup?
@@JackNiles LOL
Great video. If only we could afford them.
Give it ten years. I think the vintage drum market will likely crash (and probably start doing so as soon as five years from now), and that'll give us all a chance to own some dream drums! : )
Question: Whats the difference between a Black Beauty and a Super? One is black nickle over brass and the other is chrome? What are the other differences? Shell thinkness? Magic vs ????
There's definitely some magic involved. lol They didn't start making the modern Black Beauty snares until the late 70s, so there's definitely some differences in the machining. And the COB Super 400 shell has a crimped snare bed, which seems to really affect the sound of that snare. Another big difference is the hoop style. The Super 400 has 1.6 mm COB hoops top and bottom, and that makes a HUGE difference with the tone. My newer Black Beauty had diecast hoops on it when I got it, but I put cheapy steel 1.6 mm hoops. They just let the snare resonate in a way that's a little more preferable to me. I think that's honestly about it. Hope that helps shed a little light on this stuff! : )
Popeyes French fries are the last meal hands down
As long as they’re fresh out the fryer and drenched in salt, I’m with you! 😂👊
More reason to love you. Hell yea man
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TACO BELL has the best fries !! ✌😂
YES! 😂👊
Each cymbals will sound different especially when they're hand hammerred different of the USA companies they're machine hammered I personally prefer hand hammerred love Turkish cymbals now the Master Murat Diríl it's using Bronze ( B) 27 his cymbals are high end with an unique sound.
Hey Uzziel! Yes, I like handmade cymbals too. I think there is something special about that. And Diril makes some incredible stuff. I know there are a few manufacturers who make high tin content cymbals in the B25 (25% tin) range, but I don't know if anyone is doing anything higher than what Diril does. So so interesting!
@@timbofromkenoMurat Diríl it's a cymbal god that person knows his stuff and has produce and created many cymbals models of the known companies. He's know it's building with Bronze 27 and the quality and sound it's impressive the beauty you can custom made them in term on weight finish , logo etc . I've been contacted and the prices he had provide was tremendously low , I used to be Diríl Cymbals distribuitor for years and I learned about cymbals along the way. Thank you for always make this amazing videos.
I dont think i ever saw a matching r.c. snare like that.(red) most were steel.back then anyway... Pretty sweet. I have a 90's r.c. kit. That i ordered in 91 ish. Still in love with them. Im only 2 hrs from u (Near the valley). Cool video . I always stuck with remo pins on it but recently tried a evans eq3 frosted on the b.d. (22×18) holy hell! Its like a whole new drum...fell back in love with it all over again. May switch batters soon.....any suggestions?
Hey! Yeah, that wood snare is so so special. Such a great drum. And with the tom batters, if you're into more of a mid- and low end-heavy sound, I really like the Evans Onyx top and bottom. But if you're looking for something like a Pinstripe, but just more modern, you should definitely try the Evans EC2S Frosted heads on top. They're awesome!
I got one of those olympics from a rehearsal room for £50... it has 7 snare wires on it & sounds insane, in the best way!... amazing drum! Premier are fantastic!
They have tremendous body to them, so I would assume that quality only multiplies with less wires. I'll bet it sounds huge. So cool!
How about a versus video. Most expensive Ludwig versus cb700 or cheap Amazon snare drum etc. or Supraphonic versus the hum of a refrigerator sample or kitchen blender. 😂hahaha
LOL I love that idea. I'll queue it up!
Love it!! Thanks for posting!
Thanks Andy! I appreciate the kind words. 😁👊
@@timbofromkeno You bet! I’ve had many Pioneers, sold them off, and always regretted selling them. I have a JF right now, but prefer Pioneers! 🥁🤣
@@andybrown78 All the same wood, right? 😂
@@timbofromkeno Exactly!
2:58 1/2 X speed hahaha
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Hahaha 2x speed 0:58
Glad you got a kick out of it, Jack!
😎👍♥️🥁 Thee ORIGINAL brown sound!
Yeah buddy!
i like 5" but these r great too.
Gotta love ‘em all!
i like the way u roll into the backbeat or is it just sounding like ur rolling around it?
Thanks much! I tend to use a lot of inverted paradiddle variants in my stickings!
Its not about the lugs count but the hardwares specially the throw offs on cheap ones.. but once you upgrade those youre golden
As far as functionality is concerned, I totally agree with you about the throw!
Beach🏖 is better than Birch
Add a margarita and you’re good to go! 😂👊
Shootout with a Supraphonic...
Definitely different, but your standard music listener would just say they both sound like a drum! 😂😂
That's a great snare! Btw in Terms snare drum depth - the Premier Heavy Rock Nine snare is a 14x9" cannon of a snare drum made of brass!... kzread.info/dash/bejne/dnyD2cl8fZCugJM.html or... kzread.info/dash/bejne/e4mrrs9uoKbcaZc.html
acrolite 2:47 , Supraphonic 6:14 , Super 400 11:28 , Black Beauty 14:07
Lots of Ludwig! 😂👊
@@timbofromkeno How many Ludwig Snare Drums is too many...
@@JackNiles No such thing! Hahaha
@@timbofromkeno One of each, or two, or three...
That Slingerland 6x14 10 Lug is awesome!! Loved it.
Such a good drum. Thanks for watching, Danny!!
Anyone that knows anything about drums knows this why do you never here those guys telling you the best drummers in the World can make cheap drums old drums past their best with the worst mismatched heads on them sound better or as good as any 1000£ snare 6 lug snare drums have got better quality threads ,ie. Old vintage Ajax,, Premier olympic,maxwin,trixon,honner budget,rose morris Beverly .It's all about the Players ear.💛🧡❤️💜💛🧡❤️🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌼🌸🌳🌴☺️
Now there’s an opinion we can agree on! 😂❤️👊
@@timbofromkeno Old Ajax kits and old Beverly kits With Old 20 and 22 zyn Cymbals and Old 20 and 22 ,24 Ajax Cymbals Great stuff MUCH LOVE GOD BLESS YOU AMEN ❤️🧡💛💜❤️🧡💛🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌼🌸🌳🌴☺️
I have a premier xpk fusion set from 99. Still love it, still sounds great. Premier as a company had issues with staying in business throughout it's history. That inconsistency is probably why, especially in America, we dont hear much about those drums.
Possibly! Though, I’m glad brands like British Drum Co. are rising in popularity. I hear nothing but good things about that stuff!
Your kit is anice kit your bass drum does nt sound nice ,its to thin ,it sounds like a Simmons bass drum your snare isn't fat enough your snare should only ring slightly fo gigs , not on videos for social media , MUCH Respect.💛🧡❤️💜💛🧡❤️🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌼🌸🌳🌴☺️
I appreciate the feedback. I figure this - if these tones were good enough for Disney, Fox, Warner Records, and Grammy-winning movie soundtracks, then I think they're okay. hahaha Big love atcha, lad!
@@timbofromkeno Hi but Commercial sounds aren't always good for instruments and music . MUCH RESPECT .💛🧡❤️💜💛🧡❤️🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌼🌸🌳🌴☺️
I was taught not to come of the snare onto the toms for fills it was a great tip don't see alot of drummers doing it sounds classyer going straight on to toms then finishing on the snare and cymbal at same time ❤️🧡💛💜❤️🧡💛🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌼🌸🌳🌴☺️
There’s a thousand ways to play the drums. Interesting to hear how you were taught back in the day!
The premier set sounded the best out of all of the kits i would never use a small snare ,but that snare probably sounded the best out of all the snares , unbelievable 💛🧡❤️💜💛🧡❤️🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌼🌸🌳🌴☺️
Glad you dig the video. 🙏🙏🙏
Can drummers start making there bass drums sound like bass drums instead of horrible Simmons bass drums whats the point in having 24 or 26 bass drum and it sounding like a Simmons bass drum horrible,thin,and clicky whats the piont ❤️🧡💛💜❤️🧡💛🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌼🌸🌳🌴☺️
lol Fair! 😂😂
Quality Premier drums are just as good as any Ludwig drums especially the 70Premier drums guys no disrespect you can't tell the difference between brass or steel drums is all down to tuning good drummers can make a wood snare sound like a metal snare vice verca .💛🧡❤️💜💛🧡❤️🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌼🌸🌳🌴☺️
I respect your opinion! And I definitely agree that those old Premier Drums are phenomenal. 😁👊
In what Century could you get an acrolight for 50bucks second hand those guys are talking like they were drummers in the fifties or sixtys wow if you could get a good Ludwig snare for 50 bucks lucky Americans ❤️🧡💛💜❤️🧡💛🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌼🌸🌳🌴☺️
This is definitely an American experience. Many of the baby boomers had schools FULL of Acrolites and often with a pile of Supraphonics too. They were beyond plentiful and so so cheap for a long time!
Tons of acrolites on ebay for $60 around 2011. Ive always wanted a 6.5 blacrolite, but those were pricier at the time. So I slept on 'em. Wish I hadn't.
In Britain anything from Ludwig secondhand is like gold dust only ever had a Ludwig Gold sparkle 4piece tryde to keep it but had to give it back to the store as it was only on loan ,wish I had money to buy it back then 35 years ago Thanks God Bless all you drummers out there AMEN💛🧡❤️💜💛🧡❤️🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌼🌸🌳🌴☺️
Love it! Your videos always makes me smile stupid big.
Ah man. Thank you!! 🙏🙏
I want one,really want one.jesus it sounds amazing and huge!anyone who hits a thumbs down is a jerk.
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There is one of those,exactly same color and depth,die cast hoopers also,for 299bux at a on-line shop in maryland and hopefully my paycheck is deposited before its sold and gone....cleaning it and toying with the sucker is where the fun begins!good video buddy.
Nice! I hope you snag that drum, Jeff. And thanks for the kind words!
Oh wow!I thought you were playing dream cymbals or maybe sabian HHX...cool turkiah b20 super sized ,and they sound beautiful, along with that DW snare i hope you buy.Those are not cheap,ever.
I did wind up buying that snare, thank you! And that Turkish stuff is worth a look. I love it!
8 x 14 Tama 1980's superstar is the best snare period. I scored a used one in 1995 and never looked back. Great video!
They're incredible drums. I gotta find one of my own some day! And thanks for the kind words!!
2:44 <-- interesting to know. It depends on friction. if tension increases it - sure, that helps - if it doesn't, then it's worse, and more tension means more loosening of something without much decent friction.
With this old stuff and the 50 to 75 years of gunk in 'em, you certainly get some friction! haha
GREAT SNARE WELL PLAYED ENOUGH SAID
Thanks Michael!
Some swear by them, others swear at them. I had pioneer 6 lug, jazzfest 8 lug, and equiv shell in 10 lug. 8 is happy medium for me. 6 too sloppy floppy, which can be cool for certain vintage styles but thats about it
lol I love that first sentence. I’m gonna quote you on that moving forward. 😂😂😂 But I totally agree on eight lug snares. I feel the same way as you!
@@timbofromkeno Ha yeah that is an original line I just came up with right now. I turned to 8 after never being able to get a decent more vintage tone with 10 lugs, which to me just sound too clean and controlled, too professional precise. I like 60s 70s music best, not 80s to modern, unless it's modern groups doing vintage styled music, which is a big thing in many genres more lately. They seem to either go w/ 6 or 8 or pull a ringo by placing a tea towel over it.
BTw I like your dumming and style and tuning. But no wood snare drum is going to get my Supraphonic off a gig for it.
Thanks for the kind words. I really love my Supras too. Good stuff!
Camco endorsed me in Los Angeles.1979 I have a 7 piece 24" down to 12". Camco LOs Angeles badges. These drums slay any DW you bring. I mean any over priced DW you want.
Camco LA shells are the stuff of legends. I've owned Oak Lawn and Chanute Camco kits, but never an LA kit. I'd love to get my hands on one some day.
The snare shown in the video appears to be a yd-9000 manufactured between 1984 and the first half of 1985. From the second half of 1985, the name was changed to recording custom, and the design of the hoop and snappy guards changed.
Thanks for the insight! : )
I was curious, thanks. When i ordered my kit there wasnt an option for matching snares. Only steel in the r.c.'s (1991-92) ...been looking for an older r.c. snare since i had several snares when i ordered i just got the steel r.c. 14×5:" i believe, but traded it for a Tama piccolo....opps.
@@lanceschultz7132 There's so many of those metal RC snares out there that you should have no problem finding one if you keep an eye out on eBay and Craigslist. One day!
Where’d Timbo go?? I stopped seeing your vids like a month or so ago even though I’m subscribed. Literally had to search you out just to see what I missed. Stupid KZread algorithm.
Ah man. Thanks for stopping by. I’ve got videos in the works. I’ve just had some tough stuff in my personal life that’s getting in the way of publishing them. In the meantime, I’ve got plenty of archival footage going up regularly on Instagram (@timbofromkeno). 🙏🙏🙏
@@timbofromkeno all the best, my man. Keep on doing you and it’ll all work. 🍻