Make Good Drums Sound Great - Choosing The Right Set, Heads, and Accessories

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  • @jacegreen3023
    @jacegreen3023 Жыл бұрын

    Please never ever ever ever stop making videos please. I love you papa timbo, and many others do too.

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    Hahaha Thanks Jace. Much more to come. Thanks for hanging around for this stuff! ❤️👊

  • @dazcanny
    @dazcanny Жыл бұрын

    I just love you man , so passionate, funny,knowledgeable, great player too ❤😂🎉

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    Man, thank you. Those are high compliments. I appreciate it!!

  • @pfmdude
    @pfmdude Жыл бұрын

    Dude high five for the Dream cymbal! I love em. I've got a 22" Bliss Paper Thin crash and a 22" Contact ride and i friggin love them. Dream cymbals just show the world that you don't need to take out a bank loan to buy amazing sounding cymbals.

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    I totally agree with you. The only downside I've seen with Dream stuff is that they wildly vary in tone and quality from cymbal to cymbal. So, you really have to play them in person to ensure you get something that sounds like you. But when you find the right cymbal, it's like magic!

  • @malonedrum
    @malonedrum Жыл бұрын

    I’m amazed (and somewhat saddened) whenever I get my hands on used drums from late 90s through maybe 2010. It seems like that was peak in quality build on “entry” or “student” line drums. Decent shells, quality components, and consistency all at a really great price point. With the newer drums it’s very easy to see where companies cut corners to save a few bucks whether it’s bass claws, other hardware components, shell construction, and finishing. Always love setting people up with used kits like this.

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    The one exception to that today is Gretsch. Their import stuff is so good. While the early Catalina kits had some issues with lugs busting, wrap yellowing, and poor shell quality, the ones they produce today are a far cry from that. They're legit mid-tier drums. And you can honestly get away with using them as a "forever kit." They're that good imo.

  • @malonedrum

    @malonedrum

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timbofromkeno #GretschGuy

  • @drumtravelfun
    @drumtravelfun Жыл бұрын

    Timbo! Happy Friday! We need a fondue video; oil, cheese and chocolate - go all out.

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    Dude, I am ready for fondue fest 2023!! hahahaha

  • @FishingforFisher
    @FishingforFisher Жыл бұрын

    I'll keep my eye out for these drums. Never really had much experience with Mapex.

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks George! Yeah, they're cool drums. I had an orange lacquer Mars kit back in the day that I loved. And I had a higher end Saturn kit too. From the top on down, the Mapex stuff is solid!

  • @TrunkyJunksun
    @TrunkyJunksun Жыл бұрын

    Look at this dude killing it out here! Love this video and series. Would be interesting to have maybe a before and after you put better heads on a drum from what may have been put on it many years. Cant wait til the next video brother!

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Fish! That’s a great idea. Definitely gotta make that happen!

  • @patriotstalk4164
    @patriotstalk4164 Жыл бұрын

    PLEASE do a drum tuning video because you made those things sound amazing!

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    Man, thank you. Eventually, I want to have a bunch of tuning videos on here. We’re gonna make it happen!!

  • @adsph
    @adsph Жыл бұрын

    Whoa !!!! Nice chops Tim !!! Great take on the kit and good info all around. Really like this content. A mix of fun and knowledge. Keep it up !!

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Chris. More to come. You the man!!

  • @m6hill983
    @m6hill983 Жыл бұрын

    I have a late 80s Pearl World Series (13, 16 and 22 modified to virgin) with lacquer finish..Nice and boomy 👌.. Been using hydraulics and e-mad on the bd, which are great, so I don't have to think about the tuning so much... HD Genera Dry on the snare, for the same reason.. 😅 And thanks for the quality content 💪 😄.

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words. I love those old Pearl kits. So so good!!

  • @quintessenceSL
    @quintessenceSL Жыл бұрын

    "Not to toot my own frickin horn here, but you got a good drummer too. So let's just here these drums flat out." Quite

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    hahahaha 😂❤

  • @mellilore
    @mellilore Жыл бұрын

    It always makes me go ROTFL when I see this or that Drum Company coming out with a new exotic wood and pumping on ads magnifying its magical characteristics, when in fact bearing edges and heads (and how you tune them) make up a good 80% as for tonal characteristics of the drum itself and hardware attached to it it's another 10% to say the least... And to think the best sounding drums ever in my book (3ply pre-76 Ludwigs and Slingerlands) are 50% made of very humble poplar (the core ply)!

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes to all of this! My fav shells are the clear maple interior Ludwig’s of the early 70s. Such amazing drums!

  • @djyeah-nah9781
    @djyeah-nah9781 Жыл бұрын

    Man, I am newly obsessed with your channel. I love the approach you take. Realised why to - feels like a cousin to the great Dave King's Rational Funk series. Please keep going my son!

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    Ah man, that's a really kind compliment. I appreciate it. More practical and ridiculous content to come. Thanks for watching!!

  • @brent3760
    @brent3760 Жыл бұрын

    Not saying you are wrong, but I have a set of Craviotto Diamond series in a vintage white marine pearl wrap and they SING! More than any drums I've ever played. The other set I have is a 1990s 4 ply Ludwig Superclassics with a stain and lacquer finish. They are wonderful but, those Craviottos sing so wonderfully.

  • @brent3760

    @brent3760

    Жыл бұрын

    And as far a cymbal alloy, I do prefer B20, but there is some horrible B20 cymbals out there. Also. much of Paiste is B8. I think it is mostly about craftsmanship. Personal opinion of course.

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brent3760 Great drums are built to sing. I think some folks just can’t afford the high end American stuff. But it’s a great feeling to have those kinds of instruments in the arsenal! And on cymbals, I agree on all points. There are some older Paiste B8 cymbals that you’d think would be way too gong-y, but they’re great. Jake from Revival Drum Shop got me into those things years ago. Super rad.

  • @johngleeson3149
    @johngleeson314910 ай бұрын

    Balsa rules!

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    10 ай бұрын

    Yeah baby! 😂😂👊👊

  • @castleblack2939
    @castleblack2939 Жыл бұрын

    Love it!! You’ve seen me playing my old ‘95 Mapex mars. You got a great sound out of them too. Great video as always sir

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks much! Yeah, I love that old Mars kit you have too!!

  • @destination_percussion
    @destination_percussion Жыл бұрын

    Great video and great information! I always love watching your videos because never know what to expect with content delivery. There's always some portion that I cant stop thinking about because you made it super funny! Keep smackin! Lookin forward to the next one!

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for the kind words. I’ve got a lot of special stuff in store. I hope you keep coming back! 😁👊

  • @BeardDuder
    @BeardDuder Жыл бұрын

    This was great and got me itching to go fix up this old kit I have. A buddy gave me a "CB-700" years and years ago that has just been sitting in the garage. It's in this killer blue sparkel finish but missing some hardware. I always planned to give it the TLC it needed to get it back in to playing shape, just never got around to it.

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope you wind up fixing those drums up because I’ve always had a soft spot for CB-700. They were an import company that came up with one really good idea-the free floater snare. And then Pearl bought the CB name and the patents along with that. The rest is history. If you ever have questions while you’re wrenching on that kit, don’t hesitate to reach out!

  • @BeardDuder

    @BeardDuder

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timbofromkeno Will do!

  • @TheLoFiHorrorGuy
    @TheLoFiHorrorGuy Жыл бұрын

    Thumbs up buddy! Great content as always. I recently got a Premier APK to backline at shows and for it being cheaper the tone is quiteeeeeeee surprising.

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    Yo, thank you! I love those APK kits. Wonderful drums!

  • @carolinewagenknecht1933
    @carolinewagenknecht1933 Жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see a deep dive on "Tone" in your own words, experience and demonstrations. Good heads, good tuning and a good drummer can make trash can Country Crock Tub drums sound decent I honestly believe.

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s not a bad idea. Let me see if I can put something together around that in the future!

  • @moondrums
    @moondrums Жыл бұрын

    Great video good information but there's nobody going to mention the Rugrats t-shirt hilarious

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    hahaha I'm glad someone noticed! And thanks for the kind words!!

  • @sam-drums
    @sam-drums Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Gets to the point. Practical advice . Thanks for sharing. For an economy class drum set, do you have any opinions about the Yamaha Stage Custom Bebop Birch?

  • @destination_percussion

    @destination_percussion

    Жыл бұрын

    Those are great kits with lacquer finishes and birch shells. Also, the smaller bop sizes are really great for not destroying your back when moving the drums from gig to gig. Throw a mic on the 18" kick and it's super deceiving for being a 20" or 22" drum depeninding on the tuning and heads.

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    I totally agree with Destination Percussion. Wonderful drums! If it were me, I tend to use a 20” bass drum more often, so I’d probably opt for a 20-12-14 setup. But in any case, those drums will sing if you upgrade the heads!

  • @joshuatuttle8599
    @joshuatuttle8599 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks Tim! I may have a unique challenge for you. I have a 2008 Tama Superstar Hyperdrive, made from birch with one inner ply of basswood on each drum. These are very shallow drums. The 10” tom is only 6.5” deep. I would like to get a deep, big sound from the toms in particular. I’m not sure it’s possible given the shallow depth! In terms of heads, all the toms have clear Remo Emperors as batters and clear Remo Ambassadors as resos. Any tips on getting a deep, thunderous sound from shallow drums?

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s a really, really tough one. Those toms are so punchy due to the shallow depths that it’s going to be difficult to pull low end out of them. You could try Evans Onyx on top and bottom, but that’s only going to go so far. The other thing you could try is doing rounder edges, but I’m not sure if that bring more than 15% more low end, but it’d cut back on the attack more than anything, which may give the illusion of the tone you’re looking for.

  • @joshuatuttle8599

    @joshuatuttle8599

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timbofromkeno thanks! It is a tough one for sure. I like your idea about the Onyx. I’ll try that out!

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joshuatuttle8599 Let me know how it goes!

  • @iwasdozer
    @iwasdozer Жыл бұрын

    Have you redone any bearing edges yourself? My dad owns a cabinet shop but i’m a little scared to try myself 😬, edge on my 12x8 tom a been scuffed a few times

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    Hit up MKE Drum Co. on Instagram. That dude does the edges on all my drums-new or old. He can either help you out with directions or resources, or he can straight up do the edges on your drums!

  • @millennialanimal
    @millennialanimal7 ай бұрын

    I bought a cheap as chips secondhand Tama Swingstar few years back to record my song demos with, I’m looking to upgrade, what do you think about the Ludwig element evolution?

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    7 ай бұрын

    I haven't played on one of those Ludwig kits, actually! Where are you located? Would you be open to the idea of buying used? Or do you prefer to buy new?

  • @millennialanimal

    @millennialanimal

    7 ай бұрын

    @@timbofromkeno I’m in the UK, I liked the idea of buying new because I’ve bought used up until now and I do need new hardware, but I’m open to what’s best at the end of the day.

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    7 ай бұрын

    @@millennialanimal A new kit could be cool. I think Natal makes some of the best bang-for-the-buck drums out there, and they're based in the UK. Could be worth connecting with them. I'd also stop by a shop and just start hitting stuff until you find something you fall in love with too! And if you do decide to go used, there are so many great Premier kits from the 70s, 80s, and 90s that you can pick up for a couple hundred bucks over your way. If I lived in the UK, I'd have a basement full of them. Might be worth looking on Facebook Marketplace, Facebook groups (for Premier Drums), and on other secondhand classified ads sites online for that sort of thing. And you can outfit any kit - new or used - with brand new modern hardware. And I totally recommend that. That's basically what I do!

  • @millennialanimal

    @millennialanimal

    7 ай бұрын

    @@timbofromkeno Great! Thanks so much! Drums aren’t my first instrument so this really helps! Thanks for taking the time to respond, this information is going to help so much, plenty of options now! Also, thanks for all the videos, found you on Instagram a while back, keep the videos coming!

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    7 ай бұрын

    @@millennialanimal Always happy to help. Thank you! And more videos to come soon!!

  • @caasirodama
    @caasirodama Жыл бұрын

    I’ve got a pearl session custom from the late 80’s and unfortunately the kick has been de-virginated. Any tips on getting a punchier tone from it?

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    Head selection and tuning are key. What heads do you have in the drum right now? And do you have any pillows or any other dampening material in the drum?

  • @variety_stomp
    @variety_stomp Жыл бұрын

    PERCUSSIVE HUNK ALERT!

  • @timbofromkeno

    @timbofromkeno

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂