Thank you to the partner's parents. We wouldn't be able to see this awesome video without your generosity! Part-skim mozzarella. Makes a great all-cheese salad with extra ranch...hold the croutons I'm dieting

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

hahaha YES! All-cheese salad sounds amazing! hahahaha

had one of these in the late 80's... in piano black. what a lovely looking and sounding kit. RCs are legends for a good reason!

@timbofromkeno

7 ай бұрын

They’re truly magical. There’s nothing that does what they do. Very happy to have spent time with this one!

The snare shown in the video appears to be a yd-9000 manufactured between 1984 and the first half of 1985. From the second half of 1985, the name was changed to recording custom, and the design of the hoop and snappy guards changed.

@timbofromkeno

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the insight! : )

@lanceschultz7132

Ай бұрын

I was curious, thanks. When i ordered my kit there wasnt an option for matching snares. Only steel in the r.c.'s (1991-92) ...been looking for an older r.c. snare since i had several snares when i ordered i just got the steel r.c. 14×5:" i believe, but traded it for a Tama piccolo....opps.

@timbofromkeno

Ай бұрын

@@lanceschultz7132 There's so many of those metal RC snares out there that you should have no problem finding one if you keep an eye out on eBay and Craigslist. One day!

Absolutely gorgeous! I got a set of recording customs in ‘88 cuz all my heros were playing them. Vinnie, Weckl, Omar, and Tony Thompson who had the red ones! Just wish I knew then what I know now about tuning a drum. 😜 I’ll always have a soft spot in my heart for RC’s. Thanks for sharing! My favorite cheese is Dubliner. ❤️🥁🤘🏼

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Joey, man, isn't it funny how our tuning ability changes the entire way we approach using our drums? I know it's definitely the same sentiment for me. There are more than a few kits that I'd like to have back now in my thirties because I know I'd get WAY different tones out of today. Man, I didn't realize I have so many cheese fanatics on this channel. Y'all are getting into the deep cuts with these varieties. Maybe I need to do food reviews again and tack them on the end of these drum videos. 😂

Tim, I can tell that these drums inspire you, that was some of your best playing. Queso Blanco. Aiiiyeeee!!!

@timbofromkeno

9 ай бұрын

Thanks dude. I truly appreciate the kind words!!

They sound great and so do you. I have an '89 setup I'm looking at. Serials start w/ PX so according to Yamaha they were made in 1989. In Taiwan.

@timbofromkeno

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, Mike. I’ll bet that kit from ‘89 is pretty rad!

it's the bearing edges that make these drums sound great, they are rounded ( not sure of the correct name) rather than sharp, awesome channel, thank you

@timbofromkeno

19 күн бұрын

Thanks for the kind words! And yeah, I totally agree on the edge. There is something super magical about the way they cut those. I haven't seen too many drums other drums with quite the same profile. Between that and every other element Yamaha put into these drums, they're stellar!

@jarrahdrum

18 күн бұрын

If a set ever comes my way I will try my best to grab them. I would love a set like this, one day eh :)

The sound of Yamaha Recording drums represents the sound that every drum should have.

@timbofromkeno

10 ай бұрын

Truly!!

I lived in Japan for a long time and these were the house drums at a lot of clubs I played at around Tokyo and that was when I really “got it” as you say. There was just something about them that always sounded perfect and “just right”. They tune super easy too. The only thing that sounded the same were all the Sakae kits that started appearing at all the rehearsal studios. No surprise, those were all made in the same factory in Osaka by the same people who made the Yamahas using the same birch wood from Hokkaido. More recently I’ve noticed The British Drum Company’s birch drums sound very similar. I found out, they use Scandinavian birch. There is something about birch from COLD regions that seems to do the trick. I think the other key factor in the RC sound is the fact that the bearing edge absolutely fits into the curved “pocket” of a modern mylar head perfectly, giving maximum wood resonance while keeping up sustain by not going full vintage round over.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I think you hit the nail on the head here. Between that special birch and the bearing edge, you get that perfect combo that just works. I think British Drum Co. has some of the old Premier workers at it, right? I’ll have to see if I can find some of those drums. Also, I just posted a video about a 14x8” Tama Superstar birch snare, and that had the same mojo as the RCs. I keep wondering if Tama sourced their veneer from the same forests as the Sakae factory. If not, then it still has to be Japanese birch-there’s definitely something peculiar about that wood!

@papalegba6796

5 ай бұрын

These are incredibly well made drums, but between the birch & the bearing edges they were too clinical for my taste. Didn't help that every 9000 kit I ever played had pinstripes on either, like it was a law or something lol. They just all sounded the same to me. Iirc, one of the reasons Japanese & European drum makers used birch instead of maple is cos the USA slapped tariffs on exported maple, making it too expensive. Possibly the same reason why USA drum makers went from mahogany to maple earlier, as the best mahogany came from UK colonies. Speaking of Scandinavian birch, Sonor have been using it for decades. They are really interesting drums, didn't see too many in the UK as they were very expensive, but the ones I did play had tons of character. The Sonorlite range were fun, they made a crazy 7.25" snare, with 12 lugs & a bizarre mechanism, that was a super-loud rock drum but also like an orchestral snare. Never played anything like it tbh, if you ever get the chance to try one do so.

I never put two and two together with your channel’s name, until you mentioned Kenosha. Small world. My dad is a music professor at UWP.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

No kidding? That is a small world. I took a lesson with Dave Bayles over there just over a decade ago!

@si1995gtnupe1997

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno: Craziness!

I love that you talk about cool gear, but no matter the topic, your persona and energy just make me smile the entire video! Please keep it that way :)

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Tobias. That means a lot! 😁👊

i love you papa timbo, cant wait for more content

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

hahaha Thanks Jace! Back in the day, in the metal music scene around Milwaukee and Chicago, people used to call me Papa Timbo! 😂

When I was a lad and blown away by Will Calhoun's HEAVY funk, I went looking for that sound. He didn't play Yamahas, but a sales person pointed me to the Recording Customs and whoa! My mom seeing numerous complaints from the neighbors in her future if I got these directed me far, far away from drums, and I have lusted after these ever since.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

One day, you'll have to get one of these kits. You can definitely get Will's sound, especially if you can get a power tom kit!!

coincidentally all my top 3 favorite drummers used the Yamaha 9000/ The Recording Custom, thats why its definitely a dream kit for me, specifically a classic one from the 80s-90s. Awesome that you got one in this clean looking finish. Its a Legendary set in Drumming history and they sound incredible.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ben. I hope you find one in the future too. I think they're worth every penny - such amazing drums!

@ben1ben

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno yes definitely, I hope so too thanks 🤝

Yo Tim! Great playing, lovely drums ❤ I have a similar age set of these in black, same sizes you have here plus an 8x8, 10x8, 14x14 and 18x16 floor toms, a 14x7 snare. And a 2005 20x16 bass drum, they’re fantastic drums, like you I had to wait a long time to find them in traditional depths but absolutely worth it. End of last year I bought a 1982 set in the stupid rare Mellow Yellow lacquer, that’s 10x8, 12x8, 14x14 and 20x14, the most awesome little kit in lovely condition. Enjoy the 9000’s! Favourite cheese is halloumi 🎉

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Stacy, you are a lucky man. Those kits sound fantastic. And that old yellow finish is so classic. How cool! I've never heard of halloumi. I gotta try that out!!

One of my dream drum sets 🤟🏼

@timbofromkeno

6 ай бұрын

They're so good!

Those rack toms sound super gnarly. And with that kick, mannnnnnnn... This sound is basically what is set as default in my head for a drum kit. Probably because I had a Yamaha keyboard as a kid and it would seem likely that they would have modeled their drum tones off of their own drums. Appenzeller is my cheese of choice.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, that's the same thing I think when I hear these drums - they're the quintessential drum sound! Too funny that we had the same thought. I've never had appenzeller, but I'm definitely going to have to find some now. I wonder if the hard texture of the cheese sliced thin would go good with some rice crackers? There's only one way to find out!

Kit sounds great. Playing is stellar. The way you show case all the drums. So cool.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! I have a lot of fun with these little videos. More to come! : )

Wow, making me nostalgic for my old Recording Customs! Nicely done!!

@timbofromkeno

10 ай бұрын

Thanks!! 😁👊

Fantastic kit! They’re legends for a reason. If anybody is looking for a sonically similar but more accessibly priced/available cool 80s kit, check out early-mid 80s Tama Superstars. You can find 4 pieces for under $1500 (sometimes under $1k). Guys like Stewart Copeland and Neil Peart were using them back in the day

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I have yet to try a set of those under mics, but I will definitely try to make it happen on this channel soon! : )

Sounds great Tim!! I have much newer birch Yamaha and they are amazing. Would love to sit behind one of those legendary recording customs tho

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks dude! The newer stuff is great too. I love the thin "Absolute" shells they did for a while too. So so good!

Sounds amazing. I have an 80s Yamaha SD-416 seamless brass and it absolutely rips with a Heavyweight Dry on it. I tried a friend's SD-415 once and that's all she wrote for me. Something about the 80s Yamaha stuff just hits right, eh?

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

100%. Everything they made during that time was just beyond amazing. What great instruments!

That kick is PERFECT...

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Right? Unbelievable tone out of these tubs!!

Killer. Nice to find the non-power size 12 and 13. Though the powers are great too. Is that the SD 096? Those are ridiculously good.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, the power tones sound great too, but my shoulders are thankful for the traditional depths on my toms here. 😂😂 This is actually the 5” deep wood snare. It’s got a lot of beef for a short drum, though!

Nice set! Drums sound like drums, truth! I have an 86 RC set in quartz grey, they are awesome drums. They have a more modern sound to me, compared to the pre 80's drums I have. Great playing man!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Shawn! Man, truly, I have never heard anything quite like this Recording Custom...but that comes from a nerd who has been playing drums for almost two decades. hahaha Folks like you and I can discern the difference between different drum kits, but so often, I try to center myself in what the final casual music listener is going to hear...drums...that sound like drums. 😂

I dont think i ever saw a matching r.c. snare like that.(red) most were steel.back then anyway... Pretty sweet. I have a 90's r.c. kit. That i ordered in 91 ish. Still in love with them. Im only 2 hrs from u (Near the valley). Cool video . I always stuck with remo pins on it but recently tried a evans eq3 frosted on the b.d. (22×18) holy hell! Its like a whole new drum...fell back in love with it all over again. May switch batters soon.....any suggestions?

@timbofromkeno

Ай бұрын

Hey! Yeah, that wood snare is so so special. Such a great drum. And with the tom batters, if you're into more of a mid- and low end-heavy sound, I really like the Evans Onyx top and bottom. But if you're looking for something like a Pinstripe, but just more modern, you should definitely try the Evans EC2S Frosted heads on top. They're awesome!

Yamaha dollar for dollar makes the best drums and hardware on the planet, looks like all's you need now is the 600 or 700 series hardware pack and you're golden. I still have my old RC's from when I switched from being a Ludwig fanatic, I now have an Absolute Hybrid Maple Kit which is insanely good. My go to for touring lately is the newer Stage Custom all Birch drums, which are also killer sounding live and in the studio, and you can get all the add on toms for pretty cheap too. Like I said dollar for dollar the best in the business.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I have to agree with you there, particularly on the Stage Custom kits. They're hard to beat!

@Mike-ol7xp

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno Great to beat on though😆

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

@@Mike-ol7xp LOL

I have this kit in cherry wood plus matching 14x8 snare.Hands down the best sounding kit I’ve ever played. Thanks for the vid dude-awesome!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Truly wonderful drums. And I’ll bet that 14x8 is killer!!

@honourisdrumming

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno Monstrous!

I remember hearing this snare in a drumeo video with Mark Kelso...the best sounding snare of all their videos imo

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Truly, it is one of the most wonderful sounding snare drums I've ever played!

WELCOME BACK TO TIMBOS TIMELESS TIMBERS! (insert shameless plug for DW Timeless Timber series drums) All jokes aside, Recording Custom drums are definitely a thing of beauty. I remember when I had my short DMB phase in 2001 and I couldn't get enough of Carter Beauford. He played these amazing drums.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha Yes! I'm actually doing a DW Crav snare soon!!

Great video. If only we could afford them.

@timbofromkeno

Ай бұрын

Give it ten years. I think the vintage drum market will likely crash (and probably start doing so as soon as five years from now), and that'll give us all a chance to own some dream drums! : )

Dream kit right there - they made a Cobalt Blue finish and that's definitely something I'm on the search for. It's hard to find these that aren't power tom depth either. Also pecorino

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Dude, I loved the look of the Cobalt Blue finish on the old Turbo Tour Customs. The power toms and that blue hue just looked ready to rock! I loved the yellow finish they did during that era too. It was a little more electric than the Tony Williams yellow we see often. With pecorino, I feel like you HAVE to have it with a fresh slice of bread. We've got a great Italian bakery in town here called Paielli's, and I think they're plain white Italian bread (made same day, of course) would just be killer with that cheese.

@coolatta1

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno Timbo you never disappoint!

Yamaha Recording custom made in Japan are the best drums ever made in my opinion. I own one and Love it.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I’m inclined to agree with you!! Haha

@caferrara

Жыл бұрын

Me too: 18 BD, 10, 12 birch. And same config with the beech custom from same era.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

@@caferrara Nice!

@Twotontessie

Жыл бұрын

It’s true. I got mine 34 years ago. Lol. I tried two other Yamaha sets in the early 2000s, but there really was no need to ever move on from the RCs. Same with the 80s snares. 493, 496, 296, 096, Peter Erskine, Maple Custom. Owned them all and still have some. All fantastic.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

@@Twotontessie Truly wonderful drums. Now I just need to find one in my preferred sizes - 20-12-14! lol

Remo Pinstripe batter and emperor coated nice to use on these drums. Easy to tune , incomparable sound

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure this kit came with clear Pinstripes on the toms, and they sounded great!

Timbo! Sounds amazing, congrats on landing your white whale. Love the sound of birch and you really do them justice. Keep swinging them oars

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks John!! 😁👊

I love my 1984 9000/RC Yamaha 14” x 8” snare drum. There is a long story with that snare but I’m just glad I have it. NEVER selling it!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Yeah baby!!

@Twotontessie

Жыл бұрын

Tell us the story we have time!

Cool playing, man! 👍 I think Yamaha calling them recording custom is all just a bit of marketing. Zildjian did the same with their "special recording hi hats". I tend to ignore the labels, like Metal Crash. I can only use it for metal? Or, "Left Side Ride". Can I not play it on the right hand side?

@timbofromkeno

8 ай бұрын

lol 100%. I totally agree. Good drums are good drums - period. But I will say that under microphones, these markedly sound different than a lot of other drums I've used. And even having played for nearly 20 years now, I got excited when I heard that difference. And it takes A LOT to get me excited about drum stuff now-a-days!

Do a vid with higher tuning. They sound amazing higher up.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

That's a great idea. Let's see what I can cook up!

@Twotontessie

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s true they like the bottom heads relatively tight IMO on the ride toms and bass drum.

Ohhh good thud on those bad boyz! I like the fact that the kick is a classic 14" depth. So many kits from the 90s went off the deep end in my opinion. What kind of cracker would you use for a good ol potluck cheese ball?!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Oh man, I totally agree on kick depths. Classic just makes so much more sense under mics. And when you go even shorter, you can get some interesting tonal effects. 22" and 24" diameter, 12" depth kicks are some of my all time favorite recorded kick tones. So so good. Great combination of punch and low-end. Dude, the CHEESEBALL? You gotta go with the assortment pack of Toasteds plus some Ritz. And you're gonna need all those crackers to get through that puppy! hahahahaha

Yeah, buddy! MIJ Recording Customs and 421's together is like 1970's Gadd and cocaine...it just works. Oh - dill havarti!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Oh my! hahahaha Dill havarti sounds so good right now - man oh man! That'd go good with a Triscuit for sure!

Gorgeous drums! One day I too shall have to get me some! Pepper jack when I'm spicy; cheddar when I'm saucy Edit: I mean who doesn't want to get their Gadd on?

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Pete! You gotta find yourself one of these kits some day. They're so so so so fun to play. And if you find yourself north of Chicago, you're more than welcome to come and try these! I love pepper jack with eggs, but I'll bet you could pop that on a Triscuit and it'd be fantastic!

@ptronicmusic

5 ай бұрын

​@@timbofromkenogood call on the Triscuits! I'm back because I still get the urge to get one of these kits on a routine basis 😅 Sidenote: I didn't realize KZread wasn't showing me notifications on replies to comments (rude) - I found out you had replied to a lot of my comments so thanks!

Do you do the "Derek" treatment (bearing edges) on all your drum kits or just specific one's (like the olive green) when you are looking for a certain sound?

@timbofromkeno

6 ай бұрын

It depends! If it’s something I wanna play a lot, I take it to Derek. Even truing the bearing edges back to their original shape just makes it so much easier to tune the drums and to get the best sound out of them. If you see my video on 70s Ludwigs, that’s where the Derek treatment is more of a restoration than a hot-rodding process.

@kspocketngroove3973

6 ай бұрын

@@timbofromkeno thanks for the reply, great content btw 👍🏼👏🏻; Always been a big fan of the 8000/9000 yamaha's

@timbofromkeno

6 ай бұрын

@@kspocketngroove3973 Thanks so much! And man, those old Japanese Yamaha Drums are so so so good-all of ‘em!

If these were the be all and end all in Studios back then why aren't they still? I mean what took over from them what knocked them from their place? What's the nearest thing to them these days…? (Mines a Cheddar please!)

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

It's a good question. I think folks might not be crazy about the finishes (as vane as that sounds). They were often in just plain color lacquers - black, gray, red, white, etc. They didn't do crazy finishes on them for the most part. And today, folks are often going straight to vintage Camco, Rogers, and Ludwig more than anything else (if they're using vintage). And then you have modern drum enthusiasts using super boutique drums or whatever else. To answer both questions succinctly, there's just too many drums now. lol You can pick almost anything high-end or vintage and it's going to sound good. There is no one go-to anymore, but I will say that this set sounds EXCEPTIONAL compared to just about anything else I've played in the recent past. (For your cheddar, go with a classic Ritz cracker. Live life!)

@Twotontessie

Жыл бұрын

IMO Yamaha was the only thing stopping Yamaha. They parted ways with the people in the facility in Japan who made them. They did what corporations do - systematically fxck up things that shouldn’t have been touched. Yamaha is a corporation selling personal watercraft and motorcycles. While there is likely more to the story, corporations make decisions based on what spreadsheets tell them. Nothing more, nothing less. Who cares what the customers are saying? You’re either an expense or you’re not. Like the channel owner says that coincided with the rise in boutique stuff and re-emergence of Gretsch and others.

@BeesWaxMinder

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno thank you for your answers 😋

@BeesWaxMinder

Жыл бұрын

@@Twotontessie How sad BUT how true…

Favorite Gadd recording with these drums? Annnnd havarti

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I love watching his videos on KZread because I get to see him lay into these drums. One of my favorite moments is watching him in the Buddy Rich tribute concert. Dude is a beast! And you're not the first person to say havarti! Another guy mentioned dill havarti, which got my mouth watering. hahaha Triscuit is the only choice, man. hahaha

Wanted these ever simce I saw Wayne's World

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

That was the first time I saw them too!!

I'm curious what price range would be considered reasonable on these sets today?

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I got a really good deal on these, but I had to pick them up in New Jersey (and I live north of Chicago). I just got lucky. But I'd probably try to get four pieces for under $2,500 USD.

my favorite cheese is fromunda

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

omg hahahahaha

I sold my DW 6 piece to Music go Round in Milwaukee/ greenfield,WI 🥹🙏🏽 sad I had to sell em…saw them back at the store then they sold it again… wish I knew who bought I’d buy em back if I knew who had em now

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I totally understand. I’ve been in the same situation before! I hope you’re able to find another kit to love soon!!