I love these longer form videos, you definitely know your stuff and it gives more context for these great sounds you’re getting! Keep it coming!!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Zac. More to come. I'll be posting about a Noble & Cooley drum made out of the Zildjian alloy on Friday. Keep an eye out! : )

😎👍♥️🥁 Thee ORIGINAL brown sound!

@timbofromkeno

2 ай бұрын

Yeah buddy!

that drum wide open... omg... well, the 50th anniversary just released... All these new "special" release snares are killing me and my bank account!

@timbofromkeno

6 ай бұрын

I wish I had a bank account I could tap into for some of these reissues! hahaha

I found one for $1200.00. With the right heads and tuning, that AVH sound comes out very easily! I love it!!

@timbofromkeno

11 ай бұрын

That’s a steal of a deal. Good for you!!

"... you get that with a strawberry Fanta you're gonna live life" simply beautifully put

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Where's the lie? 🤣

Hey Tim !! Really informative video. Love the history of that snare. Not to mention details of your kit and cymbals. This is the content I’m here for. Well done my friend.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris! Glad you got a kick out of it!!

I had steel Mastercraft and WISH I had never sold it. I got the drum with a 5 piece pewter Imperialstar set from around 1982.

@timbofromkeno

Ай бұрын

Yeah, those were really great drums - the snare and the kit. And what's crazy is that even 10 years ago, in the US, you could still pick those kits up with the snares for a few hundred bucks. People just weren't hip to them!

So glad your’e on KZread now!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words. I hope you're digging the videos here!

@msullivan7703

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno most definitely

So glad you’re on KZread now Timbo! Awesome vid and I never knew about this snare.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Luke! Thanks so much for the kind words. Honestly, I didn't know anything about this snare until I got hands on it too. Seems to be a pretty rare little drum. Lots of fun to play, though. : )

I have a 1946 Leedy and a 1952 Leedy and Ludwig snare and they both have extended snares and I have no problems with them. I think die cast hoops hold their tuning longer. I have a vintage Ludiwg 400 (circa 1961) it has triple flanged hoops and is probably the most famous and most used snare drum in the world and I used to use these little plastic things that you'd put over the lug nuts to hold them in place in the area of where your stick would hit the rim. I mostly use my Gretsch Renown kit and all the drums have die cast hoops and stay in tune real well but nothing compares to the sound of the "400".

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

To each his own, right? At least we can all agree that the Supra rocks! hahaha

@Assimilator702

11 ай бұрын

Yes I prefer diecast hoops on most of my drums. Also the difference between flanged steel hoops and zinc diecast is not as great as many people make them out to be. Diecast has several advantages to any flanged hoop. Easy and accurate tuning in addition to tuning stability.

Snare sounds great - price is insane - your playing is sounding great Tim! 👍🏻💪🏻

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I can’t imagine paying more than a few hundred bucks for a snare drum. Hahaha And thanks for the kind words!!

Woah, thats a super cool dampening system! Thanks for sharing about this awesome drum. Also, love the "No Chops" edit lol...

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Lol I had to do those sirens! 😂 And man, that dampener is so great. They should bring it back for sure!

Interesting snare 🔥🥁 makes fun watching you review something 💪🏼😎

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Alex!!

Solid work! Digging these videos.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. So glad you're getting a kick out of them!

Love that you are posting on KZread. Been trying to get out of Instagram more and this is the ticket.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Rowan! Man, thanks so much for the kind words. I have a feeling more of us are going to migrate over this way in the next year. IG is a mess. lol

Love the video Timbo! That intro cracks me up every time 😂

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha Thanks Austin! 😂👊

Owned the 100th Anniv. Ludwig 15 ply Santos rosewood drum and it was really great! Great vid❤

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I can only imagine! And thanks Jake. I appreciate it!!

Your drum sound is incredible just WOW🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much. I really appreciate that!!

I’m eagerly anticipating the day when you get one of these rulllll fancy snares and there’s a card lodged under the snare wires that says. “Merry Birthday, Timbo. Seasonings greetings.” And may that newly gifted snare sizzle like a freshly dropped fryer basket.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha That would be something! But I’ll tell ya, I’m just so happy to be able to try some of these things. It’s been a blast!

Killer drum and killer playing man! Love your set up

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Stuart. I appreciate the kind words!

Perfect tone for hard slamming rock! Awesome drumming mate 💥

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

100%. And thanks dude!!

Wow! So I have this exact snare. I’ve had is since 1987, this was my first snare. Almost sold it for basically nothing lol. I’ve always thought it was a killer sounding snare drum and ended up keeping it. Glad I did. Thanks for the info!

@timbofromkeno

11 ай бұрын

So glad you kept that drum and stumbled upon this video. Thanks for the comment, Jason. Hope you stick around and enjoy some of the other funky stuff I post over here!

RULES!!! great video TB!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! : )

Great playing

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Donald. I really appreciate it!

Love it man. Sounds dope

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yeah, this was a surprising little drum. Super fun!

Great snare and your playing is awesome!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Hey Terry! Thanks so much for the kind words. I appreciate it!

Sounds great Tim!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Matt! Thanks dude!!

Great video!!! Loved the talking and the playing equally.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Colin. I really appreciate it!

Awesome. Thank you. 👍👍

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

😁😁👊👊

I love watching this joyful jolly gumball of a man play

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

hahaha Thank you!

you're an incredible drummer!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Cory! Man, thank you. I really appreciate the kind words!!

@coryhalewilliams

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno of course!!

Informative and entertaining video. Thanks man! The sound of the snare reminds me on Larses tone on the Black Album. A loud and dry SLAP! 🤌🏼

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words. And Lars was a Tama guy too. I’m curious what he used on that album!

watching from Philippines!! 🇵🇭

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Cheers from Wisconsin!!

Very interesting info. Thanks

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Caroline!

Uhh you forgot the Roger,s dynasonic. Legendary snare drum.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Good call, but those technically aren't extended wires. Though they're different (with that rail underneath the bottom head), they don't extend past either end of the drum. : )

You're gonna have 100k subscribers in a year, I bet.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Man, I’d cry. 😂😂❤️❤️

That muted tone isn't really my thing, but I can see it being very useful in certain studio situations, especially if there's going to be a ton of reverb added to the snare. That open tuning is great! Even with the heavy cast hoops.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I almost always opt for wide open snares, personally. And with heavy cast drums, that's one of my favorite tones of all time!

Yeah buddy!!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Tony! Thanks for checking out the video. ❤️👊

@tinterlande

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno Keep 'em coming!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

@@tinterlande I know you love your Keppies. Keep an eye out for a rare thiqq metal thing on Friday!

Im loving these vids man. Could deffo hear that snare in a progressive jazz setting. Snarky or ghost note style bands. As for fries, England sucks for good fries, however even though the textures not outstanding, the fries from five guys that are done in peanut oil do have a superior taste to most regular fries 🤙

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Gotta love those Five Guys fries. hahaha And thanks so much for the kind words, Tim. I really appreciate it. New videos coming soon. On Friday the 21st, you'll see some familiar British favorites. Keep an eye out!

The Mastercraft Series of Tama were all great. I had a 5" Mastercraft with the inlay in the wood around the center. I recorded with that bad-boy back in 1980 and I the clarity was superb. Too bad for me, I sold it (foolishly) many years ago.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I think I've seen a few like that! Wonderful sounding drums.

@TonyT007

6 ай бұрын

Tama just reissued them for for their 50th anniversary

I have the Imperialstar version of this model with a chrome over steel shell, die cast hoops, extended snares- and it SLAPS. Can be had for a fraction of the price of equivalent Rosewood or Bell Brass.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

People sleep on those. Great drums! Anika Nilles has been playing out with one a lot recently. They'll probably jump in price sooner than later!

@PrinceAsmodeus

Жыл бұрын

I have a Mastercraft 5x14 steel snare, probably the same drum. Excellent condition, $125 on craigslist. Even came with the original drummer, heads, wires, and straps. Beautiful drums. I've heard the lugs are fragile. Trying to find a few spares in case.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

@@PrinceAsmodeus Interesting. I didn't know the lugs were prone to breaking. Still, ta a 125 bucks, that's a great deal!

Aww shit, my day just got made!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the vid!! : )

Rosewood snares are my absolute favorite. I had a 40th anniversary reissue, but much prefer the Pearl Masterworks Santos Rosewood over the Tama. Ludwigs AVH signature Rosewood is absolutely amazing as well

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I wish I could find the Ludwig one just to hear how close they got! And that’s interesting about the Pearl model. I’ll have to see if I can find footage of one of those. But knowing Pearl’s manufacturing methods and how they affect the sound, I can imagine that’s a perfect match for the rosewood’s natural tone!

@aparker507

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno Carter Beauford is currently using the Ludwig AVH Rosewood I found for them. Any video from 2016 on is that snare for him. And the Pearl is on my channel for a quick reference!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

@@aparker507 Super rad. Gonna peep now. Thanks Adam!

Released yesterday in full on youtube, here's a whole album using the Ludwig LM402AVH. Generally tuned to Diver Down with "P3 Perimeter Burn" (already out as a single on all major streaming platforms) being especially and specifically tuned to Diver Down, because it's 100% inspired by it. Before post production, the snare itself is high at about c#. SM57s top and bottom, except P1-2 just a Sennheiser tom mic, but I did my best with that learning curve. Just forget about the mics and enjoy. Genre is orchestral funk. (Rest of this 2nd album officially released everywhere in a few weeks. 1st album also with this snare, except for one.) kzread.info/head/PLyUbOYQEXdZTzgiWdSXuBwE2w9XqSbSQP&si=uVfgbMWyFKfru2il

@timbofromkeno

5 ай бұрын

Nice!

insane sound man! hope I found a used one on ebay

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

One day! And thanks man!!

Man, really interesting videos! such a live presentations....no boredom at all!!! But u'd better to show or tell some information about type of snare beds of those many snare drums!!!! and some words aboyt edges.... 👏👏👏👍👍

@timbofromkeno

11 ай бұрын

I talk about both quite often-sometimes it feels like too much! 😂 But I’ll keep working in the content for nerds like us for sure! 😂👊

There is an even rare 14x8 version, as far as I know only one was made and it sold in minutes

@timbofromkeno

5 ай бұрын

Incredible!

Sick! Love seeing you on KZread more. In this video you mention you personally would not use this drum everyday. In a previous video you mentioned that you dislike wood drums in general. Can you speak a little more in depth about why that is? Maybe include some details of your personal preferences as of lately?

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, Slippy! Yeah, I'm definitely a metal snare guy. And the few I use most often are the 5 and 6.5" Supraphonic and the 6.5" Black Beauty. Why? They just work. If I had to choose one desert island snare drum, it's definitely the 6.5" BB. And I'm definitely going to do an in-depth video on why I love these drums over others sooner than later. In short, seamless metal drums retain the body that I love from wood drums, but have a certain high end cut that just sits perfectly in any mix. Plus, the tuning range on Ludwig's seamless drums is almost infinite. If I can answer anything else now, don't hesitate to ask. I appreciate you taking the time to watch this stuff!

@Quartiano

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno awesome info! I have only ever played wood snare drums and would love an aluminum or copper or something! My main snare has been a 6x14 Pork Pie Curley Maple for the past decade. Thanks for the response! Rock on!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

@@Quartiano Always! Bill makes some great drums at Pork Pie. If you're looking for brass on a budget, I totally recommend trying to find a used Pork Pie BOB (14x6.5 black nickel over brass) snare. Usually, you can snag them for 250 or less used, and they're worth every penny!

@DanGrossDrums

Жыл бұрын

​@Timbo From Keno Have you tried Ludwig's new PorkPie "clone", the universal brass? Funny that someone decides to make a welded version of their BB and Ludwig comes back with "we can do that too!"

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

@@DanGrossDrums I haven’t tried Ludwig’s version, but I’d guess it’s probably coming out of the same factory at the Pork Pie stuff, so it’s probably great!

10:44 i have a Tama snare that has that same dampener set up

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

You've got a pretty old snare, then. They quit using these in the early 90s, I believe. Great little dampener!

TACO BELL has the best fries !! ✌😂

@timbofromkeno

Ай бұрын

YES! 😂👊

Good snare video. I agree, I don't like those extended snare systems either. Had one on my Pearl Free Floater. Some parts fell off (that I never found again lol) so I just ended up bypassing it. As far as which one's easier to tune, die-cast or triple flanged?. I find die-cast much quicker and easier, after I got used to it, which didn't take long. I've got a Mapex Saturn and a Tama Starclassic kit, and the Tama is much easier and quicker (for me) to tune up. Love em both tho. I've found this to be pretty much universal on most die-cast vs triple flanged drums. As far as sound, that's subjective. The cast hoop (drum sound) seems more focused and punchy, where the flanged one's are more open and thunderous. Honestly, I dunno, I think the Saturn is more my speed (sound wise) where the Tama is much easier to deal with, has a great 'beeeuummm' sound, and is a lil more "premium". Thanks for listening, sorry for the jabbering 😅

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Hey, I'm here for the jabbering! hahaha On the hoop stuff, I think for me, it's that the light triple flange hoops let the drum create more of the tone than the drum head itself. And while it's true that the shell and edge will affect the tone in any case, I really like to rely on the shell for tone if I'm paying a premium for the drum itself. I LOVE the older Mapex Saturn kits. I had one from about 2008/2009 a few years after it'd been made (picked it up used), and I really loved those drums. Mine was the maple/walnut shell and it was in this crazy silver to blue sparkle lacquer fade finish. Wonderful drums for rock, pop, and death metal (which I was playing at the time).

@eastbaymauiboy

Жыл бұрын

@Timbo From Keno Awesome. Very interesting take on the whole shell vs drumhead resonance thing. I don't know if my ear is good enough to tell the difference. My Tama and Mapex are extremely close in build and tone, the Tama being birch and bubinga, and the Mapex being maple and walnut. The sizes are the same too, with similar edges. So, funny thing, you mention the Saturn III's you had and dug. Mine is a Sat IV, which they made for just one year (2014 I think). It's basically a hybrid of the Sat III and the Sat V. It's literally 1/2 and 1/2 of a 3 and 5. It's got the shells (w/ sharp bearing edges) of the Sat 3 and the hardware of the Sat 5. The 5 is the same, only different sizes and rounded edges. I think you'd dig it

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

@@eastbaymauiboy I think I’d dig that for sure!

Popeyes and Chickfila fries are a go-to. Put your sauce on a Remo ambassador and dig in XD

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I love that idea! hahahaha

Sounds awesome. With some reverb, this snare would absolutely sore. AE Paterra from the band Zombi has a similar snare sound. Just power and deadness.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

A little 'verb goes a long way with a dead snare for sure. I'll have to check out that Zombi band!

@pfmdude

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno they're awesome! Just drums and synthesizers. 2 guys. Very prog rock 🙂. The sound is like if John Carpenter, Van Halen, and Tangerine Dream had a 3 some after a Rush concert, Zombi would be the result.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

@@pfmdude I love it!!

I've never been a huge fan of the Tama sound for kits but man they make/made some of the best snares around. This thing sounds great.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know if you’ve ever heard the old Imperialstars from the 70s, but with the right heads, they’re formidable kits! Worth a listen if you can find a decent player with good mics, heads, and tuning skills. Lol It all makes a difference.

@ibleebinU

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps you might enjoy Canopus snare drums. Some of my favorite's and I own waaay too many snare drums from all makers.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

@@ibleebinU They make fantastic drums for sure!

@darthslater6077

Жыл бұрын

I HAVE PLAYED IN FRONT OF MANY DRUMS DW, SONOR, GRETCH.....BUT I ALWAYS LOVED THE SOUND OF TAMA'S ALWAYS..GUITAR PLAYERS OPINION.....NOT TO BIG ON PEARLS...

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

@@darthslater6077 Tama makes great drums, for sure! : )

Tama just reissued them for their 50th anniversary

@timbofromkeno

6 ай бұрын

I saw they reissued the bell brass. I haven’t seen the rosewood reissue yet, but I’ll bet it’s rad!

@TonyT007

6 ай бұрын

@@timbofromkeno Built to the same specifications as it was in the early 80’s with the roller strainer and muffler knob

@timbofromkeno

6 ай бұрын

@@TonyT007 Nice!!

Interesting. I always thought Alex was exclusively a Ludwig Guy. Nice drum but too much trouble for me. Awesome video. Like and sub'd.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Alex was a Ludwig guy for the most part. They even built him ply and solid shell rosewood drums so he'd use that instead of the Tama. I think more than anything, he landed on an LM402, though. And thanks for all the kind words. Means a lot!

I fell in love with that snare when the drummer from tesla used one on the 1 st album then several years later Tama came out with a shallow depth rosewood snare. But as far as 8 grand I'll pass.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t know this is the sound on the first Tesla record. Great piece of music history! And on the pricing, I totally get it. I’m working on a video about a 50 dollar snare drum I love. Sometimes you don’t have a pay an arm and a leg for a good drum!

@drumj725

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno I was a tesla junkie and I also think on that 1st record he recorded with Gretch drums and that Tama snare.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

@@drumj725 Gotta love the Gretsch stuff from that era. If it’s good enough for Jeff Porcaro, it’s good enough for me! 😂

Extended wires never choke no matter how high you tension them

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I never thought about that. I'm sure they can definitely work at much a higher tension than standard wires. Is that worth the fuss for me? Probably not, as I don't tend to tension wires very high. But if I were an orchestral player, that would further make me want one of these rosewood snares. You could get some pretty incredible definition out of this drum in that context!

Yo, don't sleep on Del Taco fries

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I’ve never actually had their fries. I gotta make this happen!!

I heard these snares are haunted by the ghost of hoshino. 👻 Ps I love all of these videos

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

hahaha Thank you! 🤣

Ted Templeton engineered that snare sound.

@timbofromkeno

9 ай бұрын

Very cool!

Beautiful drum! But I'm not that special person! 😅

@timbofromkeno

8 ай бұрын

Fair!! 😂😂👊👊

Very odd that you didn't mention the Rogers Dynasonic system

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

They’re not extended wire systems. Are they different than standard drums? Sure. The snare bridge system is super cool. Just not extended! 😂👊

@duranjerome

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno Awesome video!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

@@duranjerome Thank you, dude!

Popeyes French fries are the last meal hands down

@timbofromkeno

Ай бұрын

As long as they’re fresh out the fryer and drenched in salt, I’m with you! 😂👊

I like a crispy fry, but a soggy snare.

@timbofromkeno

11 ай бұрын

I don't know what a soggy snare tone actually sounds like, but I want to now! LOL

@totigerus

11 ай бұрын

search for the isolated drums for "in the still of the night" by Whitesnake. Killer soggy snare sound!!! hahaha @@timbofromkeno

Alex Van Halen use 14"x6,5"Ludwig Supraphonic, Black Beauty and Copperphonic, not ❓🤔

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Yes! But in the studio, he used this drum most often. : )

@waguin7042

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno I think that Ludwig release a Alex Van Halen's signature snare in this same wood. You confirm?

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

@@waguin7042 They did a limited edition one, yes!

Keno=Kenosha?

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Yep! Been here all my life. : )

alex would need drum lessons to use that drum.. right?

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, it’s almost necessary to play as heavy handed as he does to get the Van Halen tone out of this thing! 😂

Holy shit that snare has a lot of body, but maybe not eight grand tho lmao

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

LOL Yeah, this particular example is probably a $2,250-2,500 dollar drum. And even at that price, I couldn't afford it. The vintage drum market has gone a little too bonkers over the last decade.

@berenjarrett4210

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno yep, still too much lmao. also great job with the video ,love the format. please make more videos

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

@@berenjarrett4210 Thanks Jarrett. I’m wrenching on next week’s video right now. Gonna show y’all an N&C Zildjian snare from 1989. It’s amazing. Keep an eye out next Friday! 😁❤️👊

@berenjarrett4210

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno im a sucker for anything bell brass, couldn't wait cheers from Indonesia.

🤔

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

🧐

He dont used tama drums!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

He played Ludwig kits, but it’s widely publicized that he used this snare drum in the 80s and early 90s. : )

@bigloaded8324

6 ай бұрын

@@timbofromkeno You’re correct! Alex used a Tama 6.5x14 Rosewood snare starting on the Fair Warning album through to the OU812 album. Outstanding snare drum!

Sounds like you're jumping on silver balloons in a warehouse. And that's ok.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

😂😂👊👊

No snare is worth $8000.

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

I like to say-there’s a difference between an instrument and a collectible. And I don’t buy collectibles. 😂👊

Orchestral? Not even close!!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Maybe not in its current form. But the tone wood itself could be a useful tool if a shell was designed well for orchestral applications and that shell was paired with the appropriate heads, strainer, and wires.

Is that YOU Timbo?!?! Been following you on Insta for a while and now YT!

@timbofromkeno

Жыл бұрын

Hey! Yeah, it's me. I'm making the jump into KZread now for fun. You digging the content??

@mobilesuitderka

Жыл бұрын

@@timbofromkeno Absolutely amigo! From the drumless tracks, Insta content and YT so far is great. Glad I'm able to support you on another platform.

@timbofromkeno

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@@mobilesuitderka Thanks dude!! 😁❤️👊