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Marner needs to be traded. Period. Too much money tied up in a winger who can't will himself to the net, can't carry play in the playoffs and made zero difference on the PP during the playoffs. Leaf fans need to fed up with the regular season points extravaganza and then the guaranteed struggle getting out of round 1.
Frosts' salary helps with Cap.
Trade Marner
Why can’t Pontus Holmberg play center?
"What's next for the maple leafs?" Cup
Also, leggo my eggo* *Timothy Liljegren
How is Reilly a $7.5 million defenseman on which planet
Downtown SB. Dubas screwed up the team for years now. They have no picks and locked in bad contracts with aNMCs. This team won’t win unless does complete rebuild.
The only player im trading marner for is Brady tkachuk or anthony cirelli
Huge leafs fan but im afraid the sens look way grittier than the leafs at the moment,
They should sign Alex Nylander
Offer Marner the same deal as Nylander. Marner can sit on the bench until he accepts it. Leafs can't afford more and if he doesn't want it, he'd walk for nothing anyway.
It’s unfortunate that management says major changes are coming and it seems that it’s only a coaching change. Oh well. I’m hoping Berube can light a fire under the core 4’s asses, especially Marner. Not holding my breath on that one tho
Leafs wont make it to round two again more then likely with the same 5 still back after 8 fricken seasons of failure , nothing will change until tavares and marner are gone the amount of cap space could really shape this team in ways it has not in 8+ years
Only way I consider taking on a pricey Ross Colton is too rid ourselves of a pricey Liljegren. Otherwise no way I’d go near that willingly. Colorado would still save a million in cap space. But I have a feeling we’d jus be looking to offload him in a years time. Also I’m not sure how it’s possible to be a -8 for 2022-23 Tampa and a -8 for 2023-24 Avalanche….
Love the vid! I’m wondering which prospects you think will crack the leafs lineup this/next season? Beside Cowan and Minten, I feel excited about Jacob Quillan and Cade Webber. I think their NCAA performances are promising and could potentially fill holes lower in the lineup for cheap in the near future.
Frost would fit like a glove
It's simple let minten and Cowan prove their it activating them both will cost like 1.6 ruffly were sending out liljgreen kampf and jarnkrok gives u 6 mill to play with
This is basically the same roster as last season, and the year before that, and the year before that. So it’s fair to expect similar results.
Sorry but no arbitrator would ever give Liljegren 3-4M. this is a guy who gets scratched every year in playoffs. even 3M was a significant overpayment
Awesome analysis but too may what if variables. We'll just have to wait and see.
Leafs are handcuffed by Marner. We are losing good players that wanted a slight pay bump to keep. Another first round knock out. I wouldn’t mind if they missed the playoffs this year
Call up DADDY Dubas. Offer Lilly straight up for Bunting 25% retained.
Jarnkok Isn't going anywhere. excellent value for a 2 way, 15-20 goal guy. solid every year
trade Timmins PLZ!!!
Great analysis again.
Colton is washed guys!!! pump the brakes. plus, Frost was benched and scratched often by Torts...if he doesn't trust him out there then Berube sure won't. I'd rather they go after Sprong.
Need another LW and a C. Lilljgren and Robertson, Prospect will be going out.
I'd trade minten isn't his ceiling a 3C and he's 2-4 years from helping out the leafs. Should just trade him for someone nhl ready
Trade Marner by any means. Pressure, take the “A” away, put him on the 3rd line and any other tactic.
Does any of this actually matter? They can’t win with this core or cap structure. The Cup window effectively closed when Mitch signed his contract the last time. Constantly trading away what little depth they have. It’s not just shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic, it’s throwing a couple over board thinking it’ll keep the ship from hitting the iceberg. The old window is over. A new could open for the 2025-2026 season, only if they walk away from both JT and Mitch.
Nonsense. The Leafs addressed their key weaknesses. Playing elite defensive teams with elite top of the league goaltending playoff contenders every year is why the team struggles to score in post season. The Leafs went with piss poor goaltending every year and that’s why they lost every series. Defense was addressed as well. The forwards are fine, good enough to get to SC final. They can also add at deadline if needed for a 3C. There’s a reason the Leafs finish near the top of the league in points every year. They are a strong team but their goaltending has been finally fixed this year.
Window is over talk is pure nonsense. You have a Center who won MVP two years ago one of the top players in the league. Marner and Nylander are top 15 players. They finished #2 in scoring in the league last year or maybe you didn’t notice that….
It’s not my fault you live in a bubble. No team has won being built like the Leafs. The experiment has failed. It’s over. Maybe yet another first round exit will smarten you up.
Leafs waited too long and did not trade Marner before his no move kicked in, now they are kicking themselves [no pun intended]
Since 2023 trade deadline I took a lot of criticism for suggesting they get Domi from Chicago then Dallas because the way he was feeding Kane showed he'd be a perfect fit for Matthews then allowing Marner to stay with Tavares. It's hilarious how many of you Leaf speculators are now putting Domi on his own line as a centerman, totally disregarding what he was brought in for. McMann also showed last year he works well with Matthews. There is no free agents at the skill level or production level of Marner and Tavers so to some you're just yakking to have enough to make a longer show. Rid yourself of those two players then expect to be below Ottawa and Buffalo in the standings. Ottawa the last 2 years drooled over the talent available in free agency and look what that got them. The only way this team improves is by getting better 1.5 to 3 million dollar players.
I can't believe they're paying Lily 1 million more than McCabe! What's HE going to ask on his next deal?
Id be totally down for Ross Colton. I lie even more that hes cost controlled for another 3 seasons. That could be a VERY good contract when the cap is up around 96-98M Tavares is off the books. It would look EVEN better if the leafs could swing a 3 team trade. Maybe not to retain 50% of coltons contract but perhaps something like 35% of Coltons contract. That lays it right in among Kampfs number around 2.4M. Perhaps The leafs decide to \send a guy like Kampf and Robertson +2nd to Colorado for Colton and then get a third team like Anaheim to retain 35%and send them a pick or a prospect or apick or a prospect. To me that would be an ideal scenerio that would make this team infinitely better.
Don’t want to say a bunch of empty words but honestly your vid’s are some of the only leaf videos that break down the leafs from a logical perspective and not just the fan perspective which is rare to find here and for that just want to say lots of people out there appreciate and really enjoy these vids
Domi. Matthews. Nylander Knies. Tavares. Marner Robertson. Minten. Cowan Give this third line a serious chance to jell a very low cost third line that all 3 will push each other.
that 3rd line is tiny, gonna get caved
That 3rd line would get destroyed defensively. It’s the NHL, ffs.
kadri 3rd line center haha
Trade all their no shows every year in the physical playoffs like Jarnkrok, Kampf and Liligram. Give Robertson, Minten,Cowan and McMann a serious chance. Tavares and Marner are going nowhere this season. I think the Leafs should try to extend Tavares if he will sign a team friendly contract to retire a Leaf.
lets be real, David Kampf is worth every penny he makes, the NHL salary comparatively to any other league is a joke. Not to mention the disparity of salary differences from line to line, the top guys deserve what they make, but it takes away from what we consider "acceptable" for our bottom line guys.
you can shuffle these little guys all you want, when your money is tied up in a few players who dont care for anything but their money, this team is going to see the same results. Keep Marner? this coming year is another round 1 throw away.
I agree...I feel like getting rid of Kampf allows him to turn into another Zack Hyman situation...I'm not saying Kampf is gonna produce like Hyman did for the Oilers this year, but I think Kampf is under-rated like Hyman was with the Leafs.
Tavares for crosby
That would be cool never gonna happen tho 😂
Bring frost home, many great memories of his dad being the voice at ACC
Robertson liljgren for adam lowry
You clearly think very little of Adam Lowry
@@gordonbgraham no, but a man can dream
@@paoloricci4569 I like Lowry, too. Lilly and Robby ain’t gonna get him
Well Colton or Frost would certainly be make the center position look a little better as both are credible to fill at 2C on an as needed basis. If you don't want Domi playing center then an injury to Tavares or Matthews makes the team very weak down the middle.
Love the Colton or Frost idea. I agree this time around they want to run it back with berube and see what they got. Regardless I don’t see Marner coming back next year and walking away. JT does resign for a Tanev type deal.
Marner will not walk away. He is going to sign an extension during the season.
NOW WAY that COWAN doesn't make the team. 100% he will be not he 3rd line this year. BOOK IT. Kampf for a 4th round pick and put Steeves in there
@@Gypsyalchemy333 Not yet. Probably in 2026-27.
Kampf is a solid defensive forward...Steeves is not
@@gordonbgraham I would be shocked if the Leafs even considered moving Kamph. I am not sure that Steeves is a good enough skater for the NHL. I have seen him play quite a bit.
@@gordonbgraham why do you say Steeves is not?
@@Gypsyalchemy333 He's not a strong skater by NHL standards. He's a minus 4 in 7 NHL games playing very limited minutes against the weakest opponents. That's a minus 40 in 70 games rate against 4th line matchups. Not good
Love the Ross Colton idea... He is the kind of player we need.
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Back like Domi - nice!! 😊
Who is the head of the Leafs medical staff, Aaron Rogers?
My theory is that they knew that hakanpaa would never play again, they sign him because dallas is cut throat and had no intention of resigning him, so the leafs sign him to give him a little send off money so that hakanpaa is not financially fucked whenever the contract expires and he is not able to play in the nhl again. Although if they can make miracles happen and he plays again.. steal but unlikely…