Meier would be my number one choice for a trade. He is fantastic

I think Meier would be a fantastic addition however, I would like to see Dubas get some bottom six players who can score instead of breaking bank on a top-six player. I think you could get more value and spend a lot less getting 1 or 2 players for the 3rd and 4th lines.

Definitely would like a guy like Meier. Love the physicality and goal scoring. He would also push for pp1 time or bolster pp2 A LOT. Also the fact he is an RFA, where you can flip him is a no brainer to me. Also idk if Knies would be on the team but I think Knies could learn a lot by practicing with him. McCabe, I do like the thought but seems like more of an off-season move to me. Replace Holl and have Timmins be your 7th d assuming Muzzin is still out.

you are better in everyway that A Pulik. more followers will come...

McCabe scares me. Potentially Foligno all over again. Leafs need consistency

Sandin, a first, and more. Not Knies (sp?) though. Robertson, and I know he’s injured.

If the Leafs do trade for Meier, they won’t flip him. They would likely try to re-sign him long term and trade William Nylander to recoup assets in n the offseason. Meier is the type of player that the Leafs have been searching for to fit in the top 6.

The problem with meier is he plays rw and we need a second line left wing

The trade the leafs should do is trade their skates for golf clubs

$1.9 million in cap space won't give much of a case for a big acquisition.

@DownTownSports98

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They don’t have 1.9M. It’s more. They’re carrying extra players right now.

i use to know a DT Steve back in the day . He did amazing things with his mouth ,under gardner bridge back it the day

Hey Downtown, I really like your analytics and your in depth pros and cons of the possible trades. What is your opinion with how well the Jets are doing this year without Paul Maurice and how Dave Rittich is having an amazing season in Winnipeg? Also, comparing the future potential of the Canadian teams among them selves might be a real good episode for you especially since Matthews may be gone in two years! Which Canadian team will be on the top if Matthews doesn't resign with the Leafs?

@DownTownSports98

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When it comes to the Jets, they’ve definitely done a better job not allowing as many scoring chances this season. And when you make an elite goalies job easier, they’re going to take care of you. The roster had a lot of talent and winning cures all. So I think it’s been a combination of better team defence, Hellebuyck being elite, and winning that has helped their top end guys play to their strengths and get comfortable. They have several loud personalities in that locker room, maybe Bowness is just managing them a bit better. Maurice has usually been effective, but I don’t see him as a versatile coach when it comes to managing people. Maybe not as stubborn as Babcock, but for sure has his ideas and doesn’t venture far from them. Luke Schenn had a great quote on Boudreau and coaching the other day. So much of the job is just getting everyone to work together. I don’t typically venture outside of covering the Leafs because when I do, unfortunately the videos don’t do very well. If I had more time to build the audience, I would. But between TSN and these Leafs videos I’m capped out on about 50-60 hours a week on work plus watching the actual games. If I added anymore sports or teams to keep up with I think I would end up burning out. My goal has always been to eventually make this a full time gig. So maybe one day

@mckessa17

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Nobody cares about the Jets, this is a Leaf website.

@markgarlock2939

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@@DownTownSports98 Wow! You really nailed it imho, thanks for the feedback, great insight as always.

David Johnstone your not getting Meir for those guys , your bloody insane if you think so , btw engvall and Holl are not as bad as you think.

The window is closing. If there was ever a year to pull the trigger on a move like this, its this year.

Who would be the better option from Chicago.. McCabe or Murphy???

@yothythoty729

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He won’t waive for a Canadian team

@TheSeanashley

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@@yothythoty729 Toronto is on his 10 team list that he would go to

@yothythoty729

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@Sean Ashley I don’t believe it. Take Logan Stanley instead

So I really think Dubas will be swinging this offseason. Does that mean bringing in a Meier or a Jake McCabe probably not. Dubas has been known to every single year look lower in the tiers and hope they can over succeed. They have always been known to try for more depth then anything. I dont think Dubas will stray to much from that. I believe the only untouchable will be Knies in the Prospects and that is the main reason they wont be able to aquire a guy like Meier. I believe a NJD will offer something like Sharangovich and a first PLUS and will be the team to land Meier. Im expecting Dubas to be busy. I wonder if he looks to move on from Matt Murray. It just came out Murray has been dealing with a nagging injury. For the second time already this season. They cant rely on him to stay healthy for a playoff run. Here is my thoughts. Could the leafs aquire in a trade Gavrikov+Korpisalo Gavrikov-2.8 , Korpisalo 1.3= 4.1M -------Murray 4.6M. Could the leafs put together a package to get COlumbus to take Murray in exchange for upgrading their D and getting a goalie who could possibly be a bit more healthy for a tandem. I realize Korpisalo hasnt been great the last few years but neither was Murray on a bad team. However I think a change of scenery could help him. DOing this also frees up another 500k. Could be Something like Gavrikov, Korpisalo Murray, 2nd , Prospect could possibly get some salary retained if give a first. may even need to give a first without rentention strictly becuse of the time remaining on murrays deal I think the Murray experiment has been a success when the guys been healthy but its been crystal clear , the guy is hurt more then hes healthy nit even the best of the best can keep this guy healthy. They NEED cinsistency if they want to succeed, they cannot rely on Samsonov solely to win them a cup. Theyre going to need a guy who can platoon with him.

Holl is very inconsistent, he has a stretch of good games than a stretch of god awful games where you want to pull your hair out. I hope they trade him

I can't see the leafs aquiring Meier in a trade. What Meier for Nylander? No way man. Nylander will score 40 this season and his game has improved . Nylander also seems to have the ability to score clutch. I would not like that move at all. The leafs probably will tweak bottom six abit. Maybe add some depth on d. No big massive deals. There's nobody really available I think that would be an x factor.

@awesomematthews1238

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Mier is leaving the Sharks regardless so they'll want to get something in return. Assuming they will ask for Nylander is ridiculous. This isn't a one for one trade. This is a rental which would cost prospects and picks most likely.

@dagger4442

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@@awesomematthews1238 And your point? I never said that would happen. lol

@johnsummerhill8323

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@@awesomematthews1238 Why is Meier leaving the Sharks? He is not a UFA.

@awesomematthews1238

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@@johnsummerhill8323 yes he is

@johnsummerhill8323

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@@awesomematthews1238 He is an RFA. He will cost a lot to trade for and he is looking for around $10 million a year. Might work if you trade Nylander for him.The Sharks will trade Carlson and give Meier an extension.

Dream on. Leafs cant afford. Matthews and Marner contracts are up soon so longer term deals for other players cant be discussed. Leafs will Have to lose a contract or 2.

McCabe's an interesting one...paired with Domi. Chicago could be great trade partners.

The fact that Dubas hasn’t received an extension yet makes me a bit more hopeful that we could see him take some risk and acquire a Meier before trade deadline. I think a Meier type player is imperative. McCabe would be a nice additive. Meier type is imperative because we need to put pressure on our bottom 6 to produce, or at least have a productive 3rd line. Look at the makeup of Bruins bottom 6, multiple quality players with 20-30 pts. Meier would automatically slide Jarnkrok into that 3LW. Slide McMann to 4LW if you’d like and automatically that 3rd line as an energy forechecking line who can put up some points. Feel bad for Simmonds because he’s a standup guy but this isn’t the YMCA. I’d be fine with 4th line being a bruiser line of McMann/ZAR/Hunt. Trade pieces I would part with include any 1st, 2nd and beyond in the next couple seasons, Kerfoot, Robertson and Holl. Kerfoot because Jarnkrok is a better version of the same type of player (small, speedy). Robertson because he’s just not within this teams timeframe. Definitely want Holl traded while his stock is up because he’s wildly inconsistent and not a high pressure game player. I’ve said this many times about him, his peaks are pretty good/decent but his lows are abysmal and it often shows in the playoffs. Much happier with defensive depth however so D is not the first priority. You can mask a struggling Holl in the playoffs this year if need be.

@johnsummerhill8323

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There are approximately 25 people on the Leafs staff who are involved in any player situations like trades. It is only Dubas who we hear from afterwards. So your theory on his contract does not hold water.

@mig3598

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@@johnsummerhill8323 correct, Dubas has a team behind him to help with analysis, negotiation and scouting reports. We hear from Dubas because he is the executive for all the final decisions on management, not the staff who helps him. You could make the player management staff argument about practically any professional team sports. On that same note, if Dubas fails this year, he’s not the only one who will be leaving. But just to wrap up the point about Dubas’ incentives, an expiring contract (professional sports or not) will always have an impact on performance. If you don’t think an impending contract expiration in a few months is going to push Dubas over the edge to make a significant trade in what might be his last attempt with this core, I don’t know what to tell you.

@johnsummerhill8323

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@@mig3598 I can tell you because I know the situation, nothing happens without Shanahan's approval.Of course, they could be butting heads on an issue, but the fact that the Leafs have worked themselves to be the 3rd or 4th best team in the NHL, is going to make it difficult not to extend Dubas' contract.And the chance of Shanahan getting fired is next to impossible due to the financial position the Leafs have reached in the last 5 years.

@mig3598

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@@johnsummerhill8323 that’s true, shanahan definitely has the final say. I find it hard to believe that Shanahan wouldn’t approve or see the utility in a trade for a power forward considering the kind of player he was. Anyway, the context of my comment is riding on the fact that the Leafs haven’t done anything in the playoffs yet. Maybe it’s just a matter of breaking past that wall but saying a contract extension is likely given that they’ve been a top regular season team, as they’ve been for the past few seasons, isn’t going to cut it in the Toronto market if they don’t make a run this playoffs.

@johnsummerhill8323

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@@mig3598 The real issue is that the Leafs really have not the cap space ($1.9 million) to do a lot without a fairly significant movement of current roster players. As an example, to get a player like Timo Meier, they would likely have to be willing to move a player like Nylander to make room.And maybe the Sharks don't want him.

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I think the two players that would make the biggest impact to the leafs would be if they could make a package deal with 2 firsts and some prospects(And maybe Sandin and Robertson) for Crouse and Chychrun. If the leafs can put together a big enough package to get Arizona to retain some salary they could really go all in for the next few years, And we know the Leafs and Arizona have been trade partners for the past few seasons.

@shahidbutt

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Hi my name is Shahid & this is my case, can I ask you something very important for sure definitely ? Yeah of course actually at this stand point, well I don't own why specifically, Actually this can work. If I would be to support & help General Manager Kylie Dubas his invsion creative role is their decision to make right choice. so I think the two players that would make the biggest impact to the Leafs would be if they could make a package deal with two frists & some prospects, ( & maybe not involve Sandin or Robertson they should trade Sandin or Robertson in that category level. becailly for sure & get Crouse & also Chychrun , if they accept the Leafs Can they put it together a big enough package to get Arizona to retain some Salary they could really go all in . For the Next few years, & we own the Lesfs & Arizona have been trade partners for sure the past few seasons will continue they will have my improvel & their will have official update by sportsnet that's what I believe in this conversation.

Excellent video and I am 100% in on those deals... Maybe Gavrikov instead of McCabe, but you're right it all depends on costs. Meier.... well I see it as pressure on Nylander, either resign this summer or he's traded and Meier is resigned $8x8.

Yeah, I want another fwd who can score, but would they crack the first pp unit? Who gets replaced off the core 4 with Reilly? I don't like 5 fwds. I just think the pk needs help. If we can improve off Kerfot and Holl that's the move. Muzzin on IR plus trading Kerfot and Holl that's 10mil in cap space at the deadline, add in salary retention and I feel the options are endless. My perfect deadline haul, a top 6 fwd who can score, shut down centre who kills penalties and a noticeable improvement off Holl. Trading Kerfot and Holl changes the pk. Maybe playoff time Matthews kills some penalties??

What about josh anderson and Gudos. Or this as a plan b

Dubas may not care about McCabe's cost certainty. Or, for that matter, Meier's really status. Dubas doesn't have a contract past the post season. That being said, I'd rather Meier out of the 2 if we could only get one.

@justindemedeiros6076

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Rfa *

You should talk about Gudas or schenn. It was reported that Dubas was watching Florida and Montreal play. I believe he was watching gudas. Also Tampa wanted to trade for Schenn and the leafs have an opportunity to interfere

@jamathon9643

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Tippet, bjugstand, and jeannot are great 3rd and 4th line players

@cartermacpherson5342

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There hasn’t been any talk on Meier to the leafs . This guys just a homer

I'm not interested in unstanstantiated rumors ! If there is some truth in these rumors , why have we not heard about it from the Leafs ! DML

@awesomematthews1238

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Usually Friedman only speaks trades if he has some inside knowledge

@johnsummerhill8323

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Exactly. This whole discussion is bullshit. This guy running this discussion has no clue.

Dryden Hunt was just dropped to Waivers, and they move Holl and Kerrfoot.

Think the Leafs should wait & not trade now. No team is likely to beat the Bruins in early playoff rounds this spring. Leafs best hope is just win one round against Tampa these playoffs. So why not reload the Leafs in 2023 this summer - maybe even by trading Matthews for Bedard. Why not?

@joannekee9571

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Agree mathew is gone snd will want to much

@jimlangdon1947

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@@joannekee9571 He has been an awesome player. But he likely will win a Stanley Cup - like most great players after he moves on from the Leafs. Go Leafs go!

@c_telking4433

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🤣🤣🤣

I’m glad you kinda touched on the current D depth chart. I’m of the opinion that Holl is the #6 guy and therefore we should be looking for an upgrade on the right side, like Schenn. But Holl has had a decent run lately and maybe you’d rather have him in the playoff lineup than Sandin (my #5). I’d love to know what the advanced stats say. McCabe looks like a good option who can play both sides. Does he play much on the PK?

@ThisIsSparta300

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Advanced stats don’t count for Hols panicky play under pressure - for instance throwing the puck overhand lollll. He isn’t a game 7 guy. Dude uncorked it 5 times and made 700 mistakes. We know what we get with him and it isn’t a Stanley cup

@johnsummerhill8323

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Schenn is no upgrade. Leafs have been down that road.

I am a Leaf fan.Leaf Fans are delusional ,why not goto the Leafs store and grab Cale Makar and Victor Hedman on defense and Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl and see how these guys work out

@c_telking4433

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Everybody he listed is available lol you can tell you have the hockey IQ of a coconut

@gerardfraser

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@@c_telking4433 Wow play dum much I see.

@stevenbrooks5429

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I was hoping for more of a big name splash though. But I think makar could be a good upgrade on holl in the bottom pair

@gerardfraser

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@@stevenbrooks5429 Yeah but I am still not 100% sold on Makar,he only got one cup.

Rangers are the front runners for Meir, both 2023 1st round picks, Othmann & Culle.

D would be for depth...The Stanley Cup Playoffs is a battle of attrition, a war played every other night for two months

@awesomematthews1238

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Our D needs an upgrade for Tampa and Boston. This D core is a big gamble with even Tampa

@gordonbgraham

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@@awesomematthews1238 Upgrade D aren't available...and a what cost? Do the Leafs have the assets for such a cost? I don't know

@awesomematthews1238

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@@gordonbgraham Shattenkirk

@gordonbgraham

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@@awesomematthews1238 Turnstile

I dont see space on our roster for a defenseman addition. Maybe in the off season. We should definitely try to add a winger though. As much as I like Jarnkrok he should not be on a line with Marner. DO NOT TRADE KNIES

They can't run it back with kerfoot and Engvall in the bottom six.

Last year Dubas proved that just bringing in more depth by not trading any roster players doesn't work. They need to improve the on-ice roster. There are three guys who they should trade: Kerfoot, Hol, and Engvall. None have been playing with enough heart or playing well enough. All three are on expiring contracts, as well. Time to make the smart moves.

@commissioner1969

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Those three you mentioned would be of no use to any other team as well.

@niagarajoe4402

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@@commissioner1969 not even close to being correct, Kerfoot has HUGE defensive/penalty kill upside…..and he’s actually been playing better as of late…..do I think that’s worth $3.5mill aav? No not at all….but saying “no team needs that”….is a very uneducated take

@niagarajoe4402

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And “moving Holl” is such a played out narrative…..he’s playing well….actually very well…his numbers have been great since November….Holl isn’t going anywhere….

@davidjohnstone4975

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@@commissioner1969 so your preferred move would be to trade players who would be more useful to other clubs and keep the ones not useful to the Leafs? Sound strategy.

@davidjohnstone4975

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@@niagarajoe4402 They have to trade someone to improve the defensive unit. Hol is on an expiring contract. Who would you prefer to see traded?

They need a top 4 winger, they have depth on the Blue line, The leafs lack scoring in playoffs

why do you shave your neck and leave hair up top. Looks weird.

@yothythoty729

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Lol agreed. Should always leave like a finger above the adams apple and up

@DownTownSports98

Жыл бұрын

I have a bald spot under my chin that doesn’t cover over. So that’s not really an option. Trust me, it bothers me more LOL

@yothythoty729

Жыл бұрын

@DownTown Sports grow your beard out big dog. I also have a bald spot underneath my chin 🤣

@denvercharlebois699

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@@yothythoty729 lol

I really like Meier if they could land him for a reasonable cost. McCabe, that injury history just makes me cringe. I would prefer to try to keep Holl, or replace Holl with someone with a better health history than McCabe.

It doesnt matter whom aquire maple leafs If they score not enough . They should score twice as much. But they dont. And as a result in the end, - Stanley Cup finals loose in 7 or even earlier.

sure add another 10 figure guy to the line up... cant they roughly 12m for next year 19m if Muzzin doesnt return . 9ufa"s 2Rfa's yep sounds like a great idea

We’d be lucky to get a bag of pucks for justine holl

@awesomematthews1238

Жыл бұрын

Have you even watched him in the past 30 games or are you just being a parrot from last year? The guys our second best defenceman

@gordonbgraham

Жыл бұрын

Learn hockey, guy

@canadianroot

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He eats minutes, and Keefe gives him more ice time than every other D except for maybe Rielly. They're neck and neck for ice time. Must be a reason.

@johnsummerhill8323

Жыл бұрын

Holl has played well.

if we could sign Meier for 8 years at 8 mil per i'd consider keeping him and maybe trading Nylander to the Islanders for Dobson who currently has only 2 goals less than the entire Leafs D because i think Willy might want more than that Meier 50% retained for Hirvonen,Voit,Robertson and 1st round picks for 2024 and 2025...then send Nylander,Kerfoot and Niemela to Isles for Dobson & Beauvillier....bring Holmberg back up to play center or see what the cost is for either Domi from Hawks or McBain from Yotes

@johnsummerhill8323

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Meier already has a long term contract. But it is not going to fit into the Leafs cap situation. If Meier gets traded, look at him going to a team with cap space, maybe Buffalo.

Consider sending Morgan Reilly to sharks for meirs and go after McCabe

Leafs need to trade for Timo

The leafs have too many holes to fix in one deadline. My thought is they won't do much at the deadline like most of the league.

@johnsummerhill8323

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Every team has holes.Even Boston.

@commissioner1969

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@@johnsummerhill8323 Boston has one hole. Their fans are jackasses and Jack Edwards is a prick lol

@johnsummerhill8323

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@@commissioner1969 If Bergeron gets hurt, they will be really in trouble.

Either they go all the way this year or it's over more or less because Auston won't resign, neither will Nylander. Leafs cannot afford to keep them. So if they do trade, better trade for long term and not just for a run at the cup.

@Scottie444

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🥱

@johnsummerhill8323

Жыл бұрын

Leafs can afford to keep both players. The issue is whether they like playing in Toronto.They each have another year on their contracts- why worry about that now?

Fire Dubas for incompetence and failure Year after year. Team has done nothing for last 5 years. Not able to get past round 1 playoffs failure so he should be fired no excuses whatsoever

@johnsummerhill8323

Жыл бұрын

Nonsense.

Trade Rielly

@johnsummerhill8323

Жыл бұрын

Why not trade Marner, Matthews And Nylander as well. Lol.

@awesomematthews1238

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@@johnsummerhill8323 you watch hockey

@johnsummerhill8323

Жыл бұрын

@@awesomematthews1238 Obviously more than you.

@robertstanford1778

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Reilly for Jacob Chychrun. Reilly although I like him is not a true number 1 just to weak in his own end.

@johnsummerhill8323

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@@robertstanford1778 Chychrun is about a number 3 or 4. Continually hurt. Reilly is one of the top rushing defencemen in the league and is a lot more durable.

No matter who the maple laughs get they not making out of the 1st rd. Maple Chokers/Maple Laughs 💩⚰️🪦😂😂😂

F Meir get Hertl!

Blah blah and blah. Not a chance.