The Toronto Maple Leafs Want BOTH Noah Hanifin & Chris Tanev? (Big NHL Trade Rumours)

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In this video, I go over some big Toronto Maple Leafs trade rumours and use advanced stats, salary cap analysis and contextual information to break them all down

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  • @ManTalk93
    @ManTalk935 ай бұрын

    Bro I'm stoked you're doing videos again. You're my favourite LeafTuber!

  • @quintensmids909
    @quintensmids9095 ай бұрын

    The 🐐 of Leafs content is back LFG

  • @Dean-nc5je
    @Dean-nc5je4 ай бұрын

    Bruh you need to make more vids. You're like one of the only ones that have opinions with stats to back it up. Are you on any other social media platforms? We need more content!!!

  • @zz.thomp19
    @zz.thomp195 ай бұрын

    Welcome back dude! Missed these videos a ton. Can't wait for the next one

  • @heavymetle
    @heavymetle5 ай бұрын

    Your comment regarding player cards and contextualizing numbers is spot on. People see a number (whether good or bad) and instantly create a headline without really knowing what drove that number. Tre needs to be careful not to trade for good numbers but rather how those numbers fit into the makeup of the leafs. Really glad to see you uploading again!

  • @12MrBrady

    @12MrBrady

    5 ай бұрын

    I agree with you, but for the RR card from Andy and Rono, it says on the card that he has a 33rd percentile role difficulty, so some of that context is included on the card. From the card alone, you’re able to deduce that while his 75th percentile defence looks good, it’s against low competition, thus not as attractive.

  • @dboyd7969
    @dboyd79695 ай бұрын

    You're back!!!! Thank you!!

  • @savrajsingh5373
    @savrajsingh53735 ай бұрын

    I’ve fucking missed you Steven holy hell did I miss ur beautiful face bud. Made my day 10 times better

  • @kevinmorgan8395
    @kevinmorgan83955 ай бұрын

    Welcome back!!! This is awesome!

  • @markgriffiths2698
    @markgriffiths26985 ай бұрын

    Very nice at telling it how it is! Great show buddy.

  • @larceny3092
    @larceny30925 ай бұрын

    Welcome back been a long time since you been on

  • @petermcateer1354
    @petermcateer13545 ай бұрын

    Welcome back!!!

  • @VindictiveRaider
    @VindictiveRaider5 ай бұрын

    Everything about this video makes sense. Great watch. 👍

  • @BurtTurbo

    @BurtTurbo

    5 ай бұрын

    great argument, clown@@methodz2850

  • @thewizardofoz511

    @thewizardofoz511

    5 ай бұрын

    It won't happen though.. Hopium is a helluva drug 😂

  • @rogersalles200
    @rogersalles2005 ай бұрын

    This dude is always spot on, I think Trevs is very smart GM and won`t cave for some pylon defense.

  • @angelwirelivecom
    @angelwirelivecom5 ай бұрын

    Your ideas are valid. Leafs can make it work

  • @CorruptCameldotCom
    @CorruptCameldotCom5 ай бұрын

    Welcome back!

  • @coreyh6698
    @coreyh66985 ай бұрын

    yay! welcome back

  • @Biffobags
    @Biffobags4 ай бұрын

    You and Steve Dangle are the best two guys out there as far as I am concerned for Leafs Nation, was glad you were back.....but now you are gone again....just before trade deadline when I like listening to you the most, hope you are back soon Steven!

  • @jackiem3740
    @jackiem37405 ай бұрын

    Apparently I missed your return video. Good to have you back!

  • @milanuzelac9251
    @milanuzelac92515 ай бұрын

    Of course they want to, but whether they can is another question...

  • @derekpaddon9553
    @derekpaddon95535 ай бұрын

    Welcome Back Mr DTSB. I agree Hanafin just cant happen they have far to many holes on their roster to go and get a guy making that much AND having to resign him. Now,.... Could they trade for Hanafin with a new 7.5M contract for next season. If he blows you out of the water the rest of the season and the leafs go win the cup then you find a way to keep him.. If not then you flip Hanafin? Maybe..Or if you completely flop again this year Maybe theyre moving on from Marner. who knows? These are the players I want the leafs to target Parayko Tanev Seeler Edmundson Laughton Vatrano Jake Evans A guy like Vatrano would be DEADLY on the wing with Nylander and Tavares imo. Laughton as 3C, Evans as a 4C possibly 3C I like Parayko because hes cost controlled.... Hes only going to be making 6.5M for another 6 yeas after this... In a couple years when the cap goes up that deal is going to be a super sweetheart contract. If I could have a Lineup of Bertuzzi-Matthews-Marner Vatrano-Tavares-Nylander Knies-Laughton-Domi Holmberg-Evans-Gregor Reilly-Parayko McCabe-Tanev Seeler-Edmundson Im going all in on that roster.

  • @finneganmagee
    @finneganmagee4 ай бұрын

    Cowan is the guy you keep out of any trade and could be on the squad earlier than some think IMO. Hanifan 🤔 I think he sounds locked in to playing in the US. Unless Boston trades for him I think he is a rental. Tanev I think is possible and could resign here as a hometown boy.

  • @PP-rr1gz
    @PP-rr1gz5 ай бұрын

    Might be a better idea to restock the shelves with picks and prospects until they’re off the Tavares contract cuz they aren’t going anywhere with the current salary structure.

  • @harolddeshep3542
    @harolddeshep35425 ай бұрын

    I'd like to see them bring in 20-25 year olds who they hopefully could develop to the next level, not known names, not UFAs, like younger versions of Tanev or Schenn. Do you have suggestions?

  • @brandonhall9959
    @brandonhall99595 ай бұрын

    Sign and trades should be more common than thay are. Pay a guy what hes worth, trade him away after a playoff run to select teams. You get some value back, less risk, idk

  • @rb3158
    @rb31585 ай бұрын

    Should of kept Lafferty and acciiari

  • @LeafsorDie
    @LeafsorDie5 ай бұрын

    At the end of the day it is pretty much a waiting game until Tavares’ 11 million is off the books. The 7th highest paid player in the NHL currently sitting at 71st in league scoring. Easily one of the worst contracts in the league right now.

  • @ItSoupyuo

    @ItSoupyuo

    5 ай бұрын

    Not really, he does more than just get points. However Is he overpaid currently, certainly.

  • @brandonhall9959

    @brandonhall9959

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@ItSoupyuoWe also knew when we signed the contract that the backend would bring diminished returns, so non of this is a surprise.

  • @LeafsorDie

    @LeafsorDie

    5 ай бұрын

    @@ItSoupyuo yes really. The only thing Tavares still does at an elite level is win faceoffs. He is a 6/7 million dollar player making 11. That contract is equivalent to an anchor you’d find on the USS Gerald R. ford

  • @byrd5163

    @byrd5163

    5 ай бұрын

    He been overpaid since the pen touched the contract. He is garbage. What has he won individually besides a face off.

  • @nhllegends658

    @nhllegends658

    5 ай бұрын

    71 😂

  • @austonsplatpoo1705
    @austonsplatpoo17055 ай бұрын

    I don’t really buy these rumours honestly

  • @thewizardofoz511

    @thewizardofoz511

    5 ай бұрын

    You sound like a smart Leafs fan😅

  • @jimlangdon1947
    @jimlangdon19475 ай бұрын

    Just trade Marner - for these two players. Maybe throw in a Leaf prospect (forward) if necessary?😀Getting rid of one of the four $11Million Leaf forwards is the Leafs main issue - limiting them to no playoff runs.

  • @killachinchilla9445

    @killachinchilla9445

    5 ай бұрын

    You do know that happens after next year, right? JT comes off the books, wtf would trading Marner make any sense?

  • @jimlangdon1947

    @jimlangdon1947

    5 ай бұрын

    @@killachinchilla9445 One player (smallish skilled forwards) like Marner, Ehlers or Nylander - is enough for playoff success on an NHL team. More just hurts the team. The way Marner & Nylander are overpaid moving forward makes it more urgent to move Marner). {Marner drops 27% in the playoffs.} Why continue failing with two playoff disappointments (Mitch & Willie)? But if you want individual records & no playoff runs - just keep the Leafs going with the Playoff Disappointment Core 4 four $11Million forwards. Hockey is only a game & Mitch seems to be content. I can’t blame him.😀 But - There have been 19 other NHL teams not including the Leafs - that are Stanley Cup winners since 1967. The Leafs haven’t had a playoff run for 20 years. The core 4 is where all the money has been spent. So changing out at least 2 of the failing Core 4 is imperative.

  • @jimlangdon1947

    @jimlangdon1947

    5 ай бұрын

    @@killachinchilla9445The Leafs have failed with Marner. Marner drops 27% in the playoffs & two smallish non playoff forwards (Marner & Nylander) is too many. Nylander is enough.😀 They committed to Nylander long term - so it is now time for Marner to win cups by moving out of Toronto - like Kessel, Kadri and Bozak.

  • @killachinchilla9445

    @killachinchilla9445

    5 ай бұрын

    @@jimlangdon1947 The highest paid player on the team is Matthews, and he was part of every failed playoff series as Mitch. Mitch has out performed Matthews in the playoffs and has 80% of the primary assists on Matthews career goals. You ever put any thought in what trading Auston's best friend on the team would do to Auston? You want to blame someone for bad playoff rosters? Blame Dubas, who let Hyman walk over not willing to give Zack 5 million yet, somehow, Tree had that same amount available to give Bertuzzi. Hyman is now a consideration for team Canada and Bertuzzi hasn't scored in almost 20 games. You want to trade away one of the four when they are the only ones performing. You remove one of them, than suddenly we have one line instead of two, our third and four line are horrible. That version of a Leafs team, you want to make, wouldn't even make the playoffs and wouldlikelybe a lottery team.

  • @jimlangdon1947

    @jimlangdon1947

    5 ай бұрын

    @@killachinchilla9445 The Leafs core 4 just continues to be playoff disappoints with no playoff runs. Do you just want individual Core 4 records, declining team level to Wildcard level this year, over paid Leafs (4 of 9 NHL players at $11Million are Leafs - want more?), and no sign of Playoff Successes as a result of playing small skilled highly paid forwards who do not thrive within playoff officiating - that fail in playoff elimination games? If yes - keep Marner.😀

  • @louisjacobs3254
    @louisjacobs32545 ай бұрын

    how do you feel about maybe a boone jenner and justin danforth package from columbus?

  • @ed230
    @ed2305 ай бұрын

    Usually when the rumour swirls like this never transpires its more like Calgary using the leaf media to their advantage

  • @normgardner4560
    @normgardner45605 ай бұрын

    Would cost them one of the core four! Which one??????

  • @richardferster8049
    @richardferster80495 ай бұрын

    This is the first of about 6-8 yrs which could easily be replay years, again, after signing Mathews and Nylander to ridiculous sums, especially Nylander. 8 yrs, full no move, insane. If they sign Marner for similar number, then they are screwed. If I was Keefe, Just go along with this lifeless group, gonna get paid good anyway, long as you can.

  • @user-te7ro1hx3v
    @user-te7ro1hx3v5 ай бұрын

    I don't know why people keep talking about Hanifin coming to Toronto. He's already said he doesn't want to play for a Canadian team...I really doubt this is happening.

  • @davidjohnstone4975
    @davidjohnstone49755 ай бұрын

    This trade would only prove one thing: the "braintrust' have not learned from the terrible mistakes of the last half dozen years. Hanifin is not someone the Leafs could hope to resign -- he is a pure rental. And we have watched the Leafs do this year in and year out and deplete the draft and prospect pool. They would need to have salary retained this year and also send someone like Brodie the other way -- probably not something Calgary wants.

  • @dredd2225
    @dredd22255 ай бұрын

    I enjoy mock trades, but yours is a HARD no. Kemp’s is signed for another 3- 4yrs, Reaves is also signed to multiple years and both players are old, Cgy is looking to get younger not older. Cgy could get more 1st RD if they move both of those players in separate trades. If Cgy is moving 2x D to Tor, I would believe 1 of the top 3 prospects would be part of the trade.

  • @markgriffiths2698
    @markgriffiths26985 ай бұрын

    Now that's a good trade

  • @stevenbiggar8223
    @stevenbiggar82235 ай бұрын

    Cant see this deal come though,, for toronto,, if they dont wanna give up a number #1 pick

  • @user-vi8dh8kq8y
    @user-vi8dh8kq8y5 ай бұрын

    I have no doubt the Maple Leafs want BOTH Noah Hanifin & Chris Tanev, and probably more. But, as the adage puts it, 'if wishes were horses, beggars would ride." Trading more good Leaf prospects would be just plain dumb, and so the question is ''who do the Leafs give up in return.' Haste always makes waste, and the history of the Leafs themselves shows that...

  • @johndesousa7379
    @johndesousa73795 ай бұрын

    Although Tanev could help the Leafs for a year or 2 he is 34 years old and may not have too much good hockey left. Not sure what wouldn't be too much to trade for Tanev who could simply walk next year. I don't see any trade happening between the Leafs and flames.

  • @geographyinaction7814
    @geographyinaction78145 ай бұрын

    Big problem with this is repeating what has happened previously. Every trade acquisition has resulted in the new players bolting in the summer. Rotten locker room, bad leadership, spoiled brat players...would you stay? What's worse is what we've given up.

  • @johnsummerhill8323

    @johnsummerhill8323

    5 ай бұрын

    Actually, it is a great dressing room. Great leadership.

  • @michaelmardling3152
    @michaelmardling31525 ай бұрын

    HTH brought up getting both Tanev brothers.

  • @darrynmartin1
    @darrynmartin15 ай бұрын

    Can they make it a 3 team deal with van get 2 of hannfin zedorov or tantiv

  • @thewizardofoz511

    @thewizardofoz511

    5 ай бұрын

    Mmmmm🤔 don't count out the ever so quiet yet methodical Stevie-Y.. he's sneaky yet efficient.. I hear they're in a shopping for a D-man as well.. Those Detroit Boyz are dangerous and the Red Wings are quietly climbing the the standings.. they run 4 lines now.. they had Fabbri on the 4th line last night?!.. that's crazy depth!😬 It's gonna be interesting to see what Stevie-Y does this year as the Red Wings looking more like buyers at the trade deadline for the first time in nearly 10 years!..😮

  • @drfirewater
    @drfirewater5 ай бұрын

    I would give a second for risto if they also take reavo or bert and make that retention 35%

  • @harolddeshep3542
    @harolddeshep35425 ай бұрын

    Would you bring up Cowan this season?

  • @user-xp6zd2sf1l

    @user-xp6zd2sf1l

    5 ай бұрын

    Cowan the horse Pinto too!

  • @TimDavies1955
    @TimDavies19555 ай бұрын

    First for tanev . First and top prospect

  • @harolddeshep3542
    @harolddeshep35425 ай бұрын

    Would you trade Samsonov and risk this season on Woll?

  • @johnsummerhill8323

    @johnsummerhill8323

    5 ай бұрын

    Not this year, but highly doubtful that Samsonov is in Toronto next season.

  • @user-ur9wn5np3t
    @user-ur9wn5np3t5 ай бұрын

    Sandin and Lilly - bad drafting. Tavares 11M over Kadri - Bad trading and signing. We are in Dubas hell. Tre isn't changing the culture with Nylander at 11.5.

  • @steveciancone8941

    @steveciancone8941

    Ай бұрын

    Hindsight is 20/20

  • @ajtay1
    @ajtay12 ай бұрын

    brooo why haven’t you been making videosssss it’s literally day 1 of playoffs for us

  • @steveciancone8941

    @steveciancone8941

    2 ай бұрын

    Honestly I assume he doesn’t make much making these, plus puts a lot of time into his TSN job. Can’t blame the guy for choosing to do other things with his free time. It is unfortunate tho, great content. Hopefully, he does something in the offseason.

  • @procrumpets0355
    @procrumpets03555 ай бұрын

    I mean, I'd rather we don't move Lilli, but if thats what brings in both, then sure as long as Hanafin signs an extension here. The fact Lilli is a 3-4D AND an RFA after his contract expires, make him a significantly valuable player to a cap-strapped team like the Leafs. That said I'd rather we not move Lilli

  • @CLo-ly1ic
    @CLo-ly1ic5 ай бұрын

    Having Flames insider info I can guarantee there will be no trade this year between Flames and Leafs.. Craig and Brad discussed a possible trade earlier this season and Flames made it clear they wanted Knies and Treliving said he's untouchable.

  • @BA-kp1us

    @BA-kp1us

    5 ай бұрын

    That’s a ridiculous ask though lol. It would be like us going to Calgary and saying we will give you a 1st but we don’t want Tanev we want Rasmussen Anderssen

  • @CLo-ly1ic

    @CLo-ly1ic

    5 ай бұрын

    @@BA-kp1us How is Knies a ridiculous ask?? You do realize it wasn't just Tanev involved in trade talk?? It was Tanev and Markstrom.. Flames requested Knies as part of the deal which Tre declined.. Flames were also going to take either Bert or Domi to help salary issues.. Honestly I'm glad it didn't happen I feel we can get much more from other teams.. Leafs aren't going anywheres with that cap situation plus goaltending is really bad I'm sorry but 1st Rd exit for sure

  • @BA-kp1us

    @BA-kp1us

    5 ай бұрын

    @@CLo-ly1ic how would I or you know that Markstrom was included? As I said, Knies for Tanev is a ridiculous ask.

  • @CLo-ly1ic

    @CLo-ly1ic

    5 ай бұрын

    @@BA-kp1us all good man,, Nothing against the Leafs and even Tanev would be a great help but I believe we will get more elsewhere and Craig has done amazing being patient and getting the best value.. You can't win all your trades but Conroy is undefeated in my books..

  • @miken8889
    @miken88895 ай бұрын

    niemilla is a couple years away, trade him if ya can

  • @user-yg9ri9eg6o
    @user-yg9ri9eg6o5 ай бұрын

    Hanifan does not want to play in Canada. Pick him up now and he'll walk at the end of the year.

  • @drfirewater
    @drfirewater5 ай бұрын

    Hanifin doesnt want to resign in canada. More likely to get blake Colman and tanev

  • @deleteduser6074
    @deleteduser60745 ай бұрын

    The trade for hanafin and Tanev you suggest lol who cares that's a bunch of garbage or third liner top outs

  • @davearmstrong137
    @davearmstrong1375 ай бұрын

    lily isnt getting 2 mil he is a number 5/6 right now

  • @darrenmacniel5481
    @darrenmacniel54815 ай бұрын

    no on Risto

  • @tml184
    @tml1845 ай бұрын

    Friedman makes up rumours all the time.

  • @ericchilton6863
    @ericchilton68635 ай бұрын

    This team isn't good enough to be buying like that. And Kyle the Glue sniffer dubas burnt away way too many assets as it is.

  • @user-lc9wx9pe1c
    @user-lc9wx9pe1c5 ай бұрын

    Flames have a good team this yr. There is no reason they should make a trade with the Leafs., not unless it makes the Fkames a better team. ! Which ot will NOT, of. Course if they can get nick Robertson then a trade might get done. Robertson is a surpluss player for the Leafs, but still a valuable asset to the leafs. This is the only way Flames are going to make the trade, and why should they, they are going to make the playoffs, for sure this yr. Mike.

  • @brandonpuckrin7514
    @brandonpuckrin75145 ай бұрын

    No, I'm sorry, this team isn't going anywhere this year. Do not trade our picks or prospects. Trade all our U.F.A's for whatever and build your defense this Sunday to start with. You want Tanev? Great, wait until Summer. Hanifen will go to Boston or somewhere else. 7 years of just skill has proven that the Shanaplan does not work. Get the right management and coaching staff in there. Stop babying the core 4.

  • @BA-kp1us
    @BA-kp1us5 ай бұрын

    A decent deal for those two would be. 1st rounder, Robertson, Liljegren, Kampf, Reaves(cap dump) For Tanev and Hanifin (signed) That’s 3 premium assets for the Flames. Assuming some resignings I would go with this for 24/25 as Domi and Bertuzzi should come in at $8M combined and you can bring in youth and save cap space for the deadline. Knies - Matthews - Marner Bertuzzi - Tavares - Nylander Cowan - Domi - Jarnkrok Minten - Holmberg - McMann/Gregor Rielly - Tanev Hanifin - McCabe Benoit - Timmins Lagesson Woll Hildeby or Samsonov

  • @harmj5606
    @harmj56065 ай бұрын

    Thoughts on Sean Walker (50%) and Scott Laughton?

  • @tml184

    @tml184

    5 ай бұрын

    no thanks

  • @derekspencer100
    @derekspencer1005 ай бұрын

    Why the fuck would we want any players from Calgary?

  • @newfieguy75
    @newfieguy755 ай бұрын

    Not going to happen they dont have the cap

  • @andrewg8095
    @andrewg80955 ай бұрын

    Tre is off his meds. We won't beat Boston or Florida regardless of who we bring in. Waste

  • @Hoovie9596
    @Hoovie95965 ай бұрын

    Historically the Flames make bad trades with the Leafs.

  • @mclekrell
    @mclekrell5 ай бұрын

    The leafs are the most ridiculous franchise in history

  • @4.0.7.7
    @4.0.7.72 ай бұрын

    Umm did you die?

  • @trilam5721
    @trilam57215 ай бұрын

    At the end of the day it’s all full of shit !!! Stop trying to give flames fans nothing to look forward to right now !!! 😡

  • @milanuzelac9251
    @milanuzelac92515 ай бұрын

    Of course they want to, but whether they can is another question...

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