A place where I talk about vintage brass instruments and accessories. There is also a focus on Collection building strategies and small business ideas and tips. Each video is broken down into defined areas so you can find exactly what you need.
I bought a dingy 1901 Conn New York Wonder cornet. Bought it for $200. Had the valves replaced. It played better than any new cornet I had ever played. Had it restored for $800 by Robb Stewart. Silverplated with gold plating inside the bell. Looks brand new and was cheaper and better than any new cornet. If you know what you’re looking for, you can get an incredible instrument for less than a new horn.
@kojirosasaki620023 күн бұрын
I have this trumpet. My father bought it used for $60 for me in 1977. It’s the trumpet I started on. It still plays but could use a major restoration. Built like a tank. I have never seen another one like it until this video.
@dwgibson200025 күн бұрын
Deluxe. at first they sound alike, then replayed each swapping back and forth, deluxe does sound better
@thebrasscellar23 күн бұрын
Thanks for checking out the vid!
@wckoekАй бұрын
The Couesnon are so inconsistent in quality since they are build over such a long period of time. Are monopole the ones to get? Found a Star model. How do they compared to Selmer that Chet Baker plays?
@Trumpetmac2 ай бұрын
I have this one, a 1956. I traded my 1970's Olds Ambassador for it after hearing and seeing Chris Botti, its my favorite
@rickberry44773 ай бұрын
Jupiter 1100. Rose brass bell 800 if a demo model. Killlerrrr. And Wilson. Made by courtois i believe
@trumpeter28485 ай бұрын
How do I purchase it?
@chrisbee91646 ай бұрын
Hey Sean, how would this compare to the Yamaha ycl-4330 gii (yam's intermediate)? I'm looking at new. I've joined a local amateur brass band as a beginner (non-competing). Ultimately I want it to be cross-genre. I like brass band stuff, jazz, and more contemporary music as well.
@stevenuttley8 ай бұрын
Interesting video, great work. Yes I think the F is for Florentine (Besson's wife who owned the company by then) rather than 'French'. I thought it was a London Besson when you mentioned the valve block. However, the designs were very very similar and may have been almost identical at that period.
@ISuperTed9 ай бұрын
I have a 1950 French Besson Brevette, same model Art Farmer played. Similar wrap to this and plays beautifully - in fact the most in-tune Flugel I’ve ever had. Tried a few modern ones and not found anything with the same sound, although Eclipse make a great modern one.
@derminotauros9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. I have my Olds Ambassador from the early 60s, my King Tempo cornet from 1964, my King Trumpet, my Holton by Leblanc, my Getzen and my Lingatone. Also the Marhillon Valve Trombane and all Instruments are old, have theire own caracter and I' m in in love with them. The history, the Tone and also the price. It's search and feel in love with old brass and music history. Like old cars and vintage Vinyl. I'm not a collector, more a enthusiast Love, peace and harmony Bernward
@azazel-06719 ай бұрын
About a year ago I got my hands on a huttl super deluxe Bb/Atrumpet for 300 and it plays way better than my strad 37 I got. I’m a junior trumpet major and I also work for a repair shop full time and after fixing some issues from someone who formerly repairs the horn it is a very very high end horn. You can really find some gems if you get lucky on more obscure professional vintage instruments for sure.
@chayanchaya11 ай бұрын
Honestly, this is not about the instrument,it's about who's playing it..!😮😂
@user-sx2dd4bb1i11 ай бұрын
I play a 1942 King Liberty (since around 1960).
@user-sx2dd4bb1i11 ай бұрын
1942 King Liberty is my go to trumpet
@amauicelticconnectionandot2674 Жыл бұрын
nice and breathy tone...like the old cornets, but a bit more mellow
@kevincabeza8116 Жыл бұрын
what flugelhorn mouthpiece did you play in the horn?
@cmgtrumpet Жыл бұрын
Quick question for you about the main tuning slide setup… is it a forward adjustable tuning slide where the finger loop is attached and then an aft quick change slide to go from Bb to A or is the only moveable portion the aft section with the threaded barrel lock nut for the quick change feature?
@brentbechtel7313 Жыл бұрын
I have a variety of vintage trumpets, but I also got two recently made trumpets, a BAC Hollywood, and a Margewaite, both made in China. It seems like both trumpets from China use a very similar valve section and valves. The design of the trumpets is different, but both are reverse lead pipe. The BAC design produces a sound profile that listeners say they like a lot, and the Margewaite is brighter. There is a difference in the "EQ" of the new horns and the vintage American made horns, I have three vintage Conn pro trumpets, but it's possible the best tone comes from a W.M. Frank 'Biltmore' which I notice has a wide throat to the section leading up to the bell -- my mutes just fall all of the way in without corks touching. Doesn't look like an expensive horn however. Seems like a good horn for warm tone, the Margewaite RL design that I have has a sort of standard trumpet sound. Used to have a Bach 37 RL, it was kind of harsh on the higher frequencies, I thought. If you sit around on eBay waiting for trumpets to list, you can get an LA Olds Special for about $350 with worn lacquer but no other damage. I got a 1947 and a 1955 this way. They have the cool side-lever water keys. Sold them however. The 55 was heavier and easier to play, actually. This is a secret thing and I hope collectors don't drive prices up. Oh! The new Margewaite was a little over $200 including shipping, had no logo on it, and benefited from Bach springs and Yamaha brass valve guides. They look different but they fit correctly, Yamaha brass guides. I have no idea if it will hold up over time, but playability with some mods is excellent. If nothing else, it would be a nice looking horn for marching band use. Even with vintage USA horns, I have to get used to how to play that individual instrument well. I'm pretty sure some people are ordering trumpets from China with their brand laser engraved and selling them for thousands. But for a student an Olds Special in good but ugly condition can be had, people don't search for that model as much, so they sometimes go for less than an Ambassador. The early all-brass ones and 50s version draw limited interest, but are awesome. But if you can spend $1,700, get an Olds Recording and be done with it, those Eastman horns cost more. I will stop talking.
@maconins123 Жыл бұрын
I wrote through your websites contact form in regards to the Indiana. However no reply. 😢
@OluzWangi23 Жыл бұрын
Hello, is that Martin Handcraft for sale? thank you
@maconins123 Жыл бұрын
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@raymondbarrientos6602 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel. Anyways, for me, it's the Hand Craft Committee. They both sound great, but I prefer the tone of the forementioned. On a different subject, what do you know about The Martin Hand Craft Symphony?
@thebrasscellar Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support. I've owned several Handcraft Symphony models and still have a large bore in my personal collection along with an even earlier large bore which pre dates those by about 10 years. What information do you require? Rgds, Shawn
@raymondbarrientos6602 Жыл бұрын
@@thebrasscellar Hello Shawn, and thank you for getting back to me. So I have been playing on a Getzen 700 model and have been looking to upgrade to maybe an Eterna Model 900, but I have also been thinking about playing a vintage horn from way back in the day. I have been told Martin Horns are amongst some of the best, and I always hear about Martin Committee's and such. Anyways, I am considering buying a Marin Symphony Hand Craft, but I can't seem to find anyone on youtube that has played one for a demo and such. I'm very curious about the sound. Also, since you are a professional, how do you rate this horn for sound? Thank you for your time most sincerely Raymond Barrientos
@raymondbarrientos6602 Жыл бұрын
One last question, what would you consider a fair price for this Trumpet, which appears to be in excellent condition?
@thebrasscellar Жыл бұрын
@@raymondbarrientos6602 Hi Raymond, I'd be really careful about getting into a horn of that era - you're taking now close to 100 years old for a lot of them which means work required. Valve rebuilds have increased in price almost double from a few years ago. The Large Bores are quite nice (expect to pay $900 - $1500 as a rough estimate at the moment. They used to be a lot more) - Medium bores can be picked up for a lot less (as in Under US$600). You can find better options in the range. From all the horns I've played I personally prefer the Martin Deluxe Committee - but that's a very personal choice. Be sure to test out a lot of horns if possible and find the one that 'fits' you and you enjoy playing. That above all else should trump your decision in a purchase. (BTW - I'm not a professional - just a very serious amateur player and student of the instrument :-) )
@raymondbarrientos6602 Жыл бұрын
@@thebrasscellar Thank you for your time and response, I appreciate it and your knowledge of trumpets. Have a great day. Sincerely Raymond Barrientos
@MrArtist1971 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I picked up a '68 Olds Ambassador for around $125 and it's🔥Just needed a good valve cleaning. It's a great player and it slots wonderfully.
@thebrasscellar Жыл бұрын
Those Olds Ambassadors are fun. Had a couple myself and even modified a few. Have fun
@leanne53811 ай бұрын
Hello how are you modified your olds ambassador to upgrade them in the best way ? Can i use any type of mouthpiece on mine?
@chasefreak Жыл бұрын
would you be willing to sell the piece with the 1172 backbore? Been looking for one for years!
@BopWalk Жыл бұрын
To me, vintage horns have a very high build quality, these American makers back in the day, Buescher, Olds, Martin, Conn, Holton, Boston Co., Keefer ect. These guys produced very high quality instruments and the hand assembled process that made a lot of these vintage horns would be far far more expensive nowadays. Vintage horns also have their own sound and feel as well.
@clarencespears5253 Жыл бұрын
What are the bore sizes of the 2 Committees?
@jeffos8724 Жыл бұрын
Prefer the deluxe for the type of music you were playing. The handcraft would probably be better for section playing or other styles of music.
@JonFrumTheFirst Жыл бұрын
Sounds like someone left a cotton ball inside it.
@FrostRare Жыл бұрын
Here I am three years late excitedly clicking on video
@apeschell Жыл бұрын
Hook me up. Where can I find one now?
@thebrasscellar Жыл бұрын
You can contact us via Social Media or send us an email and I might be able to find you one.
@rientshuitema6008 Жыл бұрын
How exactly do I loosen the seam?
@IndianOutlaw1870 Жыл бұрын
I had never played a Schilke mouthpiece until three days ago. It's a 15A4, and I absolutely love it.
@robertoozbusi3427 Жыл бұрын
This where my love for CB started. Shaun has helped me massively to choose my new trumpet a Carol Brass 5060. Awesome work! Gotta love this channel
@thebrasscellar Жыл бұрын
Pleasure to help out. Thanks Roberto!
@eliezertapia9216 Жыл бұрын
I have a few vintage trumpet and many other instrument in my coleccion tha I want to sell out do to my age.I cant play no more and is a tormen for me just to look at them.
@mrgiggles7840 Жыл бұрын
they dont sound the same at all
@paulgrimm Жыл бұрын
Just a 1938 William Frank that’s sounds like horn. No third slide handle ether ,but longer tubing . Great old horn along with William Frank 20 mouthpiece. Check one out sometime .Lots of sleeper horns out there at great prices
@Author-RiseOfTheLittleHorn2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to get the stats on the Committee #3 large bore. Any info on the sale pricing for those would be appreciated.
@thebrasscellar2 жыл бұрын
Haven't been looking for a few years now. Gamonbrass typically has a few nice examples, as does J Landress Brass on a fairly regular basis. Depends on the era. I'd be buying in person or from a reputable dealer in this price bracket. Rgds
@Author-RiseOfTheLittleHorn2 жыл бұрын
I have to try - curious how much you paid for it.
@thebrasscellar2 жыл бұрын
Hello $3500 USD from memory. It was a lot but it's completely original including paperwork and won't be for sale for a long time again. Thanks for checking out the video
@beru582 жыл бұрын
Too bad that factory burned down. I visited Chateau Thierry severel times but didn’t know of Couesnon then.
@paulgrimm68502 жыл бұрын
Trumpets are built to play,not collect
@hannah. Жыл бұрын
ok?
@chasefreak2 жыл бұрын
The "B" model (currently the 9 model) was a copy of Edward B Lewellyn's piece-basically close to a Bach 10 1/2 c...all models with the letter "R" indicates Renold Schilke...the K rim was for Murray Klopovsky(sp?)...the "J" model (now the 12 model) was for Joe Summerhill, a Chicago-based artist back in the '50's. Let me know if you'd ever sell the personal Lewellyn or either the "B model
@wythetrumpet64192 жыл бұрын
Hum, both are jewels. I believe I prefer the Deluxe over the Handcraft. The tone is a little better!
@thebrasscellar2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out the vid
@hazell.7052 жыл бұрын
Hi! I found you researching mouthpieces. It's a Martin 8. Can you tell me anything about that number?
@BopWalk2 жыл бұрын
WOW, this horn is Very VERY rare. I have never seen a Martin Handcraft Imperial in Large Bore, about as rare as a Handcraft Committee in Large Bore.
@paulgrimm2 жыл бұрын
Old horns are built better. Just bought a Selmer Coronet designed by Bach. Plays great and clean. Couple tiny dents . I love it
@randyprindle12292 жыл бұрын
I agree I have a couple vintage trumpets that I've paid $200-$$400 that can play with some of the best
@dachanist2 жыл бұрын
My 1970s YTR-632 is awesome, purchased for $300. My RMC era Reynolds Contempora is my go to horn right now, $200. My 1951 large bore committee has more holes than when it was new, but definitely plays the way it should, $2000. My LA Special Cornet went to a female friend and probably isn't being played right now, $200. My cousin's son has an Indian head Martin Indiana cornet that has nothing wrong with it and cost $40. Honestly I didn't want to let him have it. Its a waste but you have to encourage the next generation, at least let them have the opportunity. I always wanted a pocket trumpet and found a $80 Selmer Prelude in brand new condition. I don't have a Jupiter 416 or Carol Brass to compare it to but it's plenty good enough for what it is. Decent student level Pocket trumpets respond well to a good heavy mouthpiece. Mine is paired with a Harrelson 7c that I got for $15. The red laquer Prelude with a giant megatone style brass 7c looks like dope, sounds ok too... Not up to par with the pro horns, but arguably better than that Indiana Cornet depending on the resistance preference. I have a $700 Maurice Andre Selmer Piccolo that sounds awful, but I suspect the fault is not in the instrument there. I later dropped it on some rocks in the Pacific, did not alter the playing characteristics one way or the other... still sounds like a wounded duck. I got it to work on my upper register, and for that it is very good. Used is by far the way to go. I'd be interested in trying a DaCarbo and an Inderbinen as Roy Hargrove played those but they are in the 4-5k area... if only one could show up locally for the $3-700 range... If I were looking at a new Monette I'd probably try for an old jazz legends' vintage horn for around the same money... In some world where $20k trumpet budgets and vintage legend horns grew on trees...
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I bought a dingy 1901 Conn New York Wonder cornet. Bought it for $200. Had the valves replaced. It played better than any new cornet I had ever played. Had it restored for $800 by Robb Stewart. Silverplated with gold plating inside the bell. Looks brand new and was cheaper and better than any new cornet. If you know what you’re looking for, you can get an incredible instrument for less than a new horn.
I have this trumpet. My father bought it used for $60 for me in 1977. It’s the trumpet I started on. It still plays but could use a major restoration. Built like a tank. I have never seen another one like it until this video.
Deluxe. at first they sound alike, then replayed each swapping back and forth, deluxe does sound better
Thanks for checking out the vid!
The Couesnon are so inconsistent in quality since they are build over such a long period of time. Are monopole the ones to get? Found a Star model. How do they compared to Selmer that Chet Baker plays?
I have this one, a 1956. I traded my 1970's Olds Ambassador for it after hearing and seeing Chris Botti, its my favorite
Jupiter 1100. Rose brass bell 800 if a demo model. Killlerrrr. And Wilson. Made by courtois i believe
How do I purchase it?
Hey Sean, how would this compare to the Yamaha ycl-4330 gii (yam's intermediate)? I'm looking at new. I've joined a local amateur brass band as a beginner (non-competing). Ultimately I want it to be cross-genre. I like brass band stuff, jazz, and more contemporary music as well.
Interesting video, great work. Yes I think the F is for Florentine (Besson's wife who owned the company by then) rather than 'French'. I thought it was a London Besson when you mentioned the valve block. However, the designs were very very similar and may have been almost identical at that period.
I have a 1950 French Besson Brevette, same model Art Farmer played. Similar wrap to this and plays beautifully - in fact the most in-tune Flugel I’ve ever had. Tried a few modern ones and not found anything with the same sound, although Eclipse make a great modern one.
Thanks for this video. I have my Olds Ambassador from the early 60s, my King Tempo cornet from 1964, my King Trumpet, my Holton by Leblanc, my Getzen and my Lingatone. Also the Marhillon Valve Trombane and all Instruments are old, have theire own caracter and I' m in in love with them. The history, the Tone and also the price. It's search and feel in love with old brass and music history. Like old cars and vintage Vinyl. I'm not a collector, more a enthusiast Love, peace and harmony Bernward
About a year ago I got my hands on a huttl super deluxe Bb/Atrumpet for 300 and it plays way better than my strad 37 I got. I’m a junior trumpet major and I also work for a repair shop full time and after fixing some issues from someone who formerly repairs the horn it is a very very high end horn. You can really find some gems if you get lucky on more obscure professional vintage instruments for sure.
Honestly, this is not about the instrument,it's about who's playing it..!😮😂
I play a 1942 King Liberty (since around 1960).
1942 King Liberty is my go to trumpet
nice and breathy tone...like the old cornets, but a bit more mellow
what flugelhorn mouthpiece did you play in the horn?
Quick question for you about the main tuning slide setup… is it a forward adjustable tuning slide where the finger loop is attached and then an aft quick change slide to go from Bb to A or is the only moveable portion the aft section with the threaded barrel lock nut for the quick change feature?
I have a variety of vintage trumpets, but I also got two recently made trumpets, a BAC Hollywood, and a Margewaite, both made in China. It seems like both trumpets from China use a very similar valve section and valves. The design of the trumpets is different, but both are reverse lead pipe. The BAC design produces a sound profile that listeners say they like a lot, and the Margewaite is brighter. There is a difference in the "EQ" of the new horns and the vintage American made horns, I have three vintage Conn pro trumpets, but it's possible the best tone comes from a W.M. Frank 'Biltmore' which I notice has a wide throat to the section leading up to the bell -- my mutes just fall all of the way in without corks touching. Doesn't look like an expensive horn however. Seems like a good horn for warm tone, the Margewaite RL design that I have has a sort of standard trumpet sound. Used to have a Bach 37 RL, it was kind of harsh on the higher frequencies, I thought. If you sit around on eBay waiting for trumpets to list, you can get an LA Olds Special for about $350 with worn lacquer but no other damage. I got a 1947 and a 1955 this way. They have the cool side-lever water keys. Sold them however. The 55 was heavier and easier to play, actually. This is a secret thing and I hope collectors don't drive prices up. Oh! The new Margewaite was a little over $200 including shipping, had no logo on it, and benefited from Bach springs and Yamaha brass valve guides. They look different but they fit correctly, Yamaha brass guides. I have no idea if it will hold up over time, but playability with some mods is excellent. If nothing else, it would be a nice looking horn for marching band use. Even with vintage USA horns, I have to get used to how to play that individual instrument well. I'm pretty sure some people are ordering trumpets from China with their brand laser engraved and selling them for thousands. But for a student an Olds Special in good but ugly condition can be had, people don't search for that model as much, so they sometimes go for less than an Ambassador. The early all-brass ones and 50s version draw limited interest, but are awesome. But if you can spend $1,700, get an Olds Recording and be done with it, those Eastman horns cost more. I will stop talking.
I wrote through your websites contact form in regards to the Indiana. However no reply. 😢
Hello, is that Martin Handcraft for sale? thank you
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Love your channel. Anyways, for me, it's the Hand Craft Committee. They both sound great, but I prefer the tone of the forementioned. On a different subject, what do you know about The Martin Hand Craft Symphony?
Thanks for the support. I've owned several Handcraft Symphony models and still have a large bore in my personal collection along with an even earlier large bore which pre dates those by about 10 years. What information do you require? Rgds, Shawn
@@thebrasscellar Hello Shawn, and thank you for getting back to me. So I have been playing on a Getzen 700 model and have been looking to upgrade to maybe an Eterna Model 900, but I have also been thinking about playing a vintage horn from way back in the day. I have been told Martin Horns are amongst some of the best, and I always hear about Martin Committee's and such. Anyways, I am considering buying a Marin Symphony Hand Craft, but I can't seem to find anyone on youtube that has played one for a demo and such. I'm very curious about the sound. Also, since you are a professional, how do you rate this horn for sound? Thank you for your time most sincerely Raymond Barrientos
One last question, what would you consider a fair price for this Trumpet, which appears to be in excellent condition?
@@raymondbarrientos6602 Hi Raymond, I'd be really careful about getting into a horn of that era - you're taking now close to 100 years old for a lot of them which means work required. Valve rebuilds have increased in price almost double from a few years ago. The Large Bores are quite nice (expect to pay $900 - $1500 as a rough estimate at the moment. They used to be a lot more) - Medium bores can be picked up for a lot less (as in Under US$600). You can find better options in the range. From all the horns I've played I personally prefer the Martin Deluxe Committee - but that's a very personal choice. Be sure to test out a lot of horns if possible and find the one that 'fits' you and you enjoy playing. That above all else should trump your decision in a purchase. (BTW - I'm not a professional - just a very serious amateur player and student of the instrument :-) )
@@thebrasscellar Thank you for your time and response, I appreciate it and your knowledge of trumpets. Have a great day. Sincerely Raymond Barrientos
Agreed. I picked up a '68 Olds Ambassador for around $125 and it's🔥Just needed a good valve cleaning. It's a great player and it slots wonderfully.
Those Olds Ambassadors are fun. Had a couple myself and even modified a few. Have fun
Hello how are you modified your olds ambassador to upgrade them in the best way ? Can i use any type of mouthpiece on mine?
would you be willing to sell the piece with the 1172 backbore? Been looking for one for years!
To me, vintage horns have a very high build quality, these American makers back in the day, Buescher, Olds, Martin, Conn, Holton, Boston Co., Keefer ect. These guys produced very high quality instruments and the hand assembled process that made a lot of these vintage horns would be far far more expensive nowadays. Vintage horns also have their own sound and feel as well.
What are the bore sizes of the 2 Committees?
Prefer the deluxe for the type of music you were playing. The handcraft would probably be better for section playing or other styles of music.
Sounds like someone left a cotton ball inside it.
Here I am three years late excitedly clicking on video
Hook me up. Where can I find one now?
You can contact us via Social Media or send us an email and I might be able to find you one.
How exactly do I loosen the seam?
I had never played a Schilke mouthpiece until three days ago. It's a 15A4, and I absolutely love it.
This where my love for CB started. Shaun has helped me massively to choose my new trumpet a Carol Brass 5060. Awesome work! Gotta love this channel
Pleasure to help out. Thanks Roberto!
I have a few vintage trumpet and many other instrument in my coleccion tha I want to sell out do to my age.I cant play no more and is a tormen for me just to look at them.
they dont sound the same at all
Just a 1938 William Frank that’s sounds like horn. No third slide handle ether ,but longer tubing . Great old horn along with William Frank 20 mouthpiece. Check one out sometime .Lots of sleeper horns out there at great prices
I was hoping to get the stats on the Committee #3 large bore. Any info on the sale pricing for those would be appreciated.
Haven't been looking for a few years now. Gamonbrass typically has a few nice examples, as does J Landress Brass on a fairly regular basis. Depends on the era. I'd be buying in person or from a reputable dealer in this price bracket. Rgds
I have to try - curious how much you paid for it.
Hello $3500 USD from memory. It was a lot but it's completely original including paperwork and won't be for sale for a long time again. Thanks for checking out the video
Too bad that factory burned down. I visited Chateau Thierry severel times but didn’t know of Couesnon then.
Trumpets are built to play,not collect
ok?
The "B" model (currently the 9 model) was a copy of Edward B Lewellyn's piece-basically close to a Bach 10 1/2 c...all models with the letter "R" indicates Renold Schilke...the K rim was for Murray Klopovsky(sp?)...the "J" model (now the 12 model) was for Joe Summerhill, a Chicago-based artist back in the '50's. Let me know if you'd ever sell the personal Lewellyn or either the "B model
Hum, both are jewels. I believe I prefer the Deluxe over the Handcraft. The tone is a little better!
Thanks for checking out the vid
Hi! I found you researching mouthpieces. It's a Martin 8. Can you tell me anything about that number?
WOW, this horn is Very VERY rare. I have never seen a Martin Handcraft Imperial in Large Bore, about as rare as a Handcraft Committee in Large Bore.
Old horns are built better. Just bought a Selmer Coronet designed by Bach. Plays great and clean. Couple tiny dents . I love it
I agree I have a couple vintage trumpets that I've paid $200-$$400 that can play with some of the best
My 1970s YTR-632 is awesome, purchased for $300. My RMC era Reynolds Contempora is my go to horn right now, $200. My 1951 large bore committee has more holes than when it was new, but definitely plays the way it should, $2000. My LA Special Cornet went to a female friend and probably isn't being played right now, $200. My cousin's son has an Indian head Martin Indiana cornet that has nothing wrong with it and cost $40. Honestly I didn't want to let him have it. Its a waste but you have to encourage the next generation, at least let them have the opportunity. I always wanted a pocket trumpet and found a $80 Selmer Prelude in brand new condition. I don't have a Jupiter 416 or Carol Brass to compare it to but it's plenty good enough for what it is. Decent student level Pocket trumpets respond well to a good heavy mouthpiece. Mine is paired with a Harrelson 7c that I got for $15. The red laquer Prelude with a giant megatone style brass 7c looks like dope, sounds ok too... Not up to par with the pro horns, but arguably better than that Indiana Cornet depending on the resistance preference. I have a $700 Maurice Andre Selmer Piccolo that sounds awful, but I suspect the fault is not in the instrument there. I later dropped it on some rocks in the Pacific, did not alter the playing characteristics one way or the other... still sounds like a wounded duck. I got it to work on my upper register, and for that it is very good. Used is by far the way to go. I'd be interested in trying a DaCarbo and an Inderbinen as Roy Hargrove played those but they are in the 4-5k area... if only one could show up locally for the $3-700 range... If I were looking at a new Monette I'd probably try for an old jazz legends' vintage horn for around the same money... In some world where $20k trumpet budgets and vintage legend horns grew on trees...
May I ask you what mouthpiece you use? Thank you
All sound identical