It's really interesting how Galadriel just forgot about Celeborn, her husband of several centuries, the father of her still-unmentioned daughter. In episode 7 she wrote off Celeborn as dead or "lost" even though we know he's alive and will somehow take her back and eventually sail to Valinor with her. But instead of showing any interest in his fate (or her daughter's), she's off on some maniacal ice-climbing adventure to hunt orcs to the one place on the continent that seems to have none. And even though her devoted husband is off screen and probably being tortured somewhere, she's making doe eyes with Sauron and calling him "King". Yup, that's exactly how heroes behave.

@marisbury

Жыл бұрын

She does call Sauron Lord rather than a King, because he is a Lord of the Rings. Even Gandalf called Sauron a Lord in original story.

@marisbury

Жыл бұрын

Also canon wise they never sail to Valinor together tho. Galadriel sailed alone with Frodo etc. Celeborn decided to stay in Middle Earth In canon I mean, this show is not canon

@kyoss4

Жыл бұрын

David, you should be called king 👑

@backwardscompatible9238

Жыл бұрын

I think it is fair to say that this series is vaguely inspired a cover of of the books once seen by the writers 😂 Galadriel is a new type of elf woman - she only lives her husband if she can see him and if not he doesn’t exist 😅

@doomsdaybooty1072

Жыл бұрын

Ya this is where the writers and producers betray their Hollywood cultural values. A woman with a husband has less agency in their eyes. A man can only serve to diminish her. It's really a very warped view of human love, and makes you kinda sad for them. The Galadriel they created is a horrific genocidal sociopath whom they see as inspirational and strong. It is ... strange. It's also why these people can't make good art with long lasting appeal, because one cannot help to infuse their own art with their own beliefs and ideologies, which is why Tolkien's books still speak to us.

It's not just the writing of her character. It's the actress's delivery. The nasty hissing between closed teeth, the hollow eyed stares, the non-radient scowling and the poor body language. Just piled on top of the horrible divergences from Tolkein's VERY COMPELLING source material.

@backwardscompatible9238

Жыл бұрын

I think Morfydd Clark has the capacity to be radiant and calm but probably she was directed to deliver this unimpressive performance that seems to be in line with the vibe of the show itself. Either way it’s not great.

@miranomv

Жыл бұрын

@@backwardscompatible9238 I have not watched the video, but I do not believe Galadriel is a villain or evil, she is just wants to get revenge for the death of a loved one. She understands that she is wrong tho and tries throughout the series to soften up a little. But its not so easy to change as a person. She became that way throughout hundreds of years. She wants to protect middle earth from evil as well. But I agree her character could have been written waaay better and at least with more emotion.

@regecide_

Жыл бұрын

@@backwardscompatible9238 She went with the "Ciri" character from Witcher series. Self-righteous and arrogant

@Razzlion

Жыл бұрын

@@miranomv Yes, telling someone you are going to keep him alive just long enough for you to genocide his entire race as he watches.. she's clearly the good guy in this story.

@weareharbinger914

Жыл бұрын

The problem is, because the writing is so bad, the directing...mediocre at best, its hard to tell if its her fault or not. In the behind the scenes things they put out, she seems much more...like a person, rather than a stabby automaton.

Guyladriel is obviously Sauron for the whole time. There is no other explanation for her constantly evil and narcissistic behavior.

@sneeringimperialist6667

Жыл бұрын

Bad writing is the explanation...

"the orcs that seem like this poor, ostracized group of victims with an unfortunate skin condition"... I'm SCREAMING! =D

They tried to create Galadriel as a captain Ahab obsessively in search of her white whale but ended up with Veruca Salt instead.

Tolkien himself said he didn't want to write elves as main characters, because you can only write about what you know with true proficiency. So, he, as a human, knew he would never write satisfactory elves. Then comes these two arrogant hacks, thinking they can do better than the Professor himself...

So, Arondir said in episode 2 that elves don't have healers right? Because they heal super fast. So they have artists to heal your soul. And in episode 7 Galadriel says halbrand needs elf medicine. Are they going to write a poem for him?

@backwardscompatible9238

Жыл бұрын

He is no leader of the northern armies. what could he ever know about his own culture and whether they have healers or not :) also who would ever remember episode 2 now? Not the writers :)

@namenloss730

Жыл бұрын

@@backwardscompatible9238 The writers dib't even seem to remember five lines in the past when writing dialogue so yeah... Multiple episodes is too complicated. But remember the cute notHobbits, with their hearts even bigger than their feet, who stick together! Unless there's fewer mushrooms than usual in a forest, in which case you should actively cause people to die by destroying their means of transport and abandoning them

@doomsdaybooty1072

Жыл бұрын

My favorite example of the writers' short term memory is the first 5 minutes: the prologue, which tells us that the evil spread, the orcs multiply and cover the earth, but then that Galadriel is looking for evil, and everyone thinks it's gone but her, and no one has seen an orc in years. Amazing writing

Of course. Mary Sue Galadriel suffered more than anyone who ever lived in the entire history of the universe. Mary Sues always have to engage in that kind trauma- trumping. They have to be better than anyone at everything, and that includes suffering. I almost laughed when to Elrond that he "had not known evil" since in canon, he was orphaned at the age of 7 when his home was attacked by Galadriel's cousins. He witnessed his servants and family friends being killed in front of him, and then his mother, driven almost mad by despair and the Silmaril jumped off a cliff. Yes, the gods turned her into a swan so she could go off with his dad to Valinor: but he was never allowed to return. He never saw his parents again. His grandparents and uncles were also murdered by the same guys who attacked his home. Like, 'xcuse me? Most of his family were murdered by Galadriel's kinfolk at an age when he was much younger than she had been when she left Valinor. And just to top it all, he was then raised by the people had attacked his home and whose brothers killed his family. But sure- he has not "seen what she has seen!" She lost her brother. and that is SO much worse!

ROP Galadriel is an outright psychopath. She actually displays many of the characteristics of pyschopaths, including a total lack of conscience and empathy, being manipulative, and prone to calculated acts of violence. What's more, she seems to delight in violence. She actually seems to enjoy killing. Violence is a compulsion for her. In Episode 5, when Haldbrand asked her why she kept fighting she said "because I cannot stop". She's literally *addicted* to violence and killing in the same way as people are addicted to drugs or gambling. She can't give it up. She has to sate her bloodlust as people must feed the addiction.

@Ouroboros619

Жыл бұрын

That would be infinitely more interesting a story than what we got

@matthewkuchinski1769

Жыл бұрын

Well said! It is interesting how badly written this character is and how she displays the same psychopathy as the well-written protagonist that was Bryan Cranston's Walter White of "Breaking Bad." Or, when watching the show Farscape, one can see the character Scorpio fit this mold, who was a better written and performed antagonist than the schlock that is ROP Galadriel.

The Galadriel in this show feels more like the dark Galadriel, who was hinted at in the "Fellowship of the Ring". - In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!-

@jeremyallen5974

Жыл бұрын

Guyladriel isn't beautiful but she DEFINITELY is terrible

@englishlady9797

Жыл бұрын

Don't try and make it fit canon. The "dark Galadriel" is never what she was, but what the Ring would have corrupted her into becoming. It represented the capacity for evil within her heart, not something she had actually been.

@zillagrilla315

Жыл бұрын

@@englishlady9797 Maybe this is an immature Galadriel before she became the Queen.

@charlybravo1354

Жыл бұрын

@@zillagrilla315 she already was mature before arriving at Middle-Earth. She was one of the wisest Elves who went there.

An article mentioned the actress had to go to therapy while playing Galadriel. At first I thought it odd, but after seeing how much seething hatred, obsessed sociopathy, and general nastiness the creators had her constantly spewing, I think I see why.

@juusovuolle8251

Жыл бұрын

it was due to the her feeling distressed about men lunging at her with swords in hand. This was one of the reasons why most of her fight scenes are heavily edited and were done in one shot.

@backwardscompatible9238

Жыл бұрын

I found the article but indeed it seems she needed therapy but for the wrong reasons 😅: “So they did exposure therapy with me, where I would have all these huge, huge men running at me, screaming with swords. To stop me from looking frightened. Because I’ve definitely been cast as the victim.” Now she is not frightened but ended up having 2 facial expressions only 😢

@NefariousKoel

Жыл бұрын

@@backwardscompatible9238 - Interesting. Makes me wonder whether "exposure therapy" is just the PC newspeak for assertiveness training.

Sauron and Galadriel have an almost Casablanca esque relationship. " We'll always have the raft Galadriel!"

Thank you for so perfectly summing up my thoughts. "Galadriel is a genocidal maniac who doesn't care about the lives of anyone else." Yep, on the nose.

Even if you can get past the fact that this is generic fantasy masking as Tolkien's work, or the terrible lead actress, or the generic look and bad CGI - Galadriel is incredibly powerful. She's an insanely powerfull sorceress. Evil flees before her when she approaches. She couldn't poke evil with a sword if she wanted to, it would have fled by the time she gets there. It's ridiculous. Why would the makers of this series make her more aggressive, but at the same time basically powerless? Just imagine how Galadriel would deal with that shark thing that ate the raft. She could make it eat its own tail if she put her mind to it. Literally, her mind. That's all she needs.

The thing that got me with Galadriel was not so much the dialogue, but I noticed, there are MANY times she would barely move her mouth when speaking and it just feels so awkward to me... or maybe it is just me

@Leman.Russ.6thLegion

Жыл бұрын

No it's very bad delivery of a poor script. They diverged so hard from the radient and calm Galadriel from Tolkein, it's just nasty.

@backwardscompatible9238

Жыл бұрын

It’s not you, it’s them :)

@valb9111

Жыл бұрын

It's very awkward, makes me uncomfortable. I think I feel embarrassed for the actress, very hard to watch.

2:42 Don't you love it how they can just whisper at the top of a mountan, in the middle of a snow storm, and still perfectly hear each other? Remember, how in Fellowship of the Rings, everyone needed to yell to be heard when they were under the same conditions? This show can't get anything right. Also, according to the map of the show, guyladriel would have to swim 4000 miles. 3:20 To be fair, nobody with half a brain would believe that Adar killed Sauron. He's an orc, Sauron is the most powerful demigod.

Some payed shills are mentioning PJ's films as examples of lore breaking to justify this attrocity. Yes, it has some ''artistic liberties'' in all 6 movies but... It also has a very talented team of scriptwritters, a burning desire to all of the ''behind the scenes'' people to deliver their best to bring Middle Earth to life, and above all, a cast of well known /respected/talented actors who put their souls in their roles and they really delivered. And most critical? They didnt violate the lore and they stay true to Tolkiens spirit. That was the recipe for the undying success these films will forever have. RoP on the other hand is a product of a megacompany, and its owner the beyond rich bold smeagol called bezos. No soul, no interest, not even one recognisable actor (i cant even think of one that could play in PJ's movies), tons of toxic attitude and above all. No interest about anything Tolkien wrote, only a huge desire to promote the diversity and political correct ideas. Its not strange that everybody hates this shit called RoP. I cant wait to be R.I.S (Rest In Shits)

Well not really "best friend". Saurand is almost her "friend with benefits".

As it turns out, there is no Valinor. The elves have been unknowingly feeding themselves to a sea monster that uses an illusion of bright heavenly light to lure in its prey.

Everything and everyone near that volcano is way dead. They all should have been turned to carbon ashes.

The writing is dreadful. An affront to Tolkien. However I'd say the psycho hobo not hobits are even more feral than galadriel.

@backwardscompatible9238

Жыл бұрын

Let’s not even get started on these little blood thirsty pseudo hobbits. I can’t believe that this series was released and nobody saw the total malevolence of that group. It’s insane.

I don't think you can apply the "hero's journey" to a charcter like Galadriel, she's 3400 years old by the time all of this happens according to canon, so this makes the show even worse, she should already be wise and experienced, and the show tries to portray that in a terrible way, sometimes acting unwise and foolishly...

I made a joke to someone that Galadriel would be revealed to be Sauron. That she was locked in an ice cell in the north, and Sauron took her likeness. Which is why THIS Galadriel is so horribly bad. 🥴😉😉🥴😃 It was said as a joke, but now, I’m starting to think these show writers are going that general direction. We are definitely going to get a Galadriel-Sauron/Halbrand affair. Their evil love will bind The Rings or some other nonsense. 🤷‍♂️🙄😉😉😂🤣😂 Adar is the only likable character. And I think that’s on purpose.

@backwardscompatible9238

Жыл бұрын

If the current Galadriel was Sauron is disguise there would still be hope for this series….

@mousemetal1679

Жыл бұрын

If this show was written by at least half-normal people it would be possible. But if you saw the arrogant, bratty writers and hired superfans promoting this abomination you would have no hope for this series to ever make sense. This is exactly how they imagine a strong woman: bratty, arrogant and malicious narcissist. Because that´s what they are. One of the key aspects of narcissistic personality is the narcs don´t have empathy and self-reflection, so no matter how terrible their behavior is it´s never bad in their eyes and it´s everyone else´s fault when they mess up something. Genocidal maniac Guyladriel or sociopathic Harfoots who leave behind the weak and make fun of it are typical self-inserts of the narcissistic writers. The only good thing comming out of this series is the insight into the mind of severely mentally ill, dangerous people.

Sauron is a more sympathetic character than this version of Galadriel. Sauron for Lord of Middle Earth SA 1500. Make Tolkien Great Again!

@backwardscompatible9238

Жыл бұрын

Agreed :D Sauron ends up being far more sympathetic (and honest!) than Galadriel, especially taking into account what happens in episode eight.

Not much for comparing TV shows to movies due to the differing structures. I'm enjoying the exploration of the Middle Earth Elves. They don't handle grief well at all. Galadriel is practically unhinged as a result. Elrond is manipulated at every turn whenever his father is mentioned yet is able to help Durin with that touching story. Interesting to see how the First Age events affected these characters. Elves are sniping, petty, manipulative and ambitious; They're using Valinor as a dumping ground for political dissidents; all glorious! They're a far cry from the defeated people in the movie trilogy.

People forget the fact that there were copyright issues which is why certain elements were either changed or watered down. It was still a fantastic telling.

very good

Also, if she's such an arse towards Elrond, that's going to get really awkward one day. Elrond will eventually marry her daughter and become her son in law (and father to Arven and her brothers). Talk about having a mean mother in law...

Imagine making a fan-favorite a villain because you refuse to read the lore.

@backwardscompatible9238

Жыл бұрын

Now this has been made real by two guys who gaslight the fans and accuse them of being fascist adjacent if they don’t like the disappointing series delivered over 5 years….

@jakomioftherose2434

Жыл бұрын

@@backwardscompatible9238 *sigh* what happened to making fans happy?

You know, pitching all the voices up is actually an improvement.

Backwards Compatible: if only i could say something positive about ROP but i cant me: hits like

The one thing that would redeem this show for me would be Galadriel putting on a Sauron helmet in the last episode XD

If they wanted to make a villain protagonist they should have been more honest about it. And make her more likable for godsake. And slapped on the kindest and beautiful character in Tolkien's book no less.

This show seems to be written by people who didn't even read their own script after the fact. Or by a bunch of people who didn't talk to each other. Galadriel is not the same character in episodes 6 and 7. Isildur is not the same character in episodes 4-5-6.

@doomsdaybooty1072

Жыл бұрын

Isildur is a mess. His motivations are all over the place. And what is the plan for forging the other rings? Now sauron throws on his annatar costume and tricks the elves again? There's no words in Elvish, Entish, or the common tongue for this travesty.

@namenloss730

Жыл бұрын

@@doomsdaybooty1072 i don't know about elvish or entish, but in the common tongue there's "diarheic dog shit"

The time has come, the entire ROP enterprise is in ruins, "Auta i lóme" and " Aurë entuluva," have you fallen to rings of power? With the showrunner's now declaring in their most recent article that phans who oppose the show are evil, despite what these remaining episodes bring, is now redundant, for their arrogance is forged in ROP. We invite all to discover our "Exsurge Tolkien" and have a counter perspective to ROP and discover how it is full of heresy and hubris. The heresy of hubris is the most damning, for it is the single vice that binds all the persons developing The Rings of Power to the supremacy of a will that is Anti-Tolkien, ironically leading the very destruction of the beloved treasure the "Theyocracy" of the machine claims to cherish. The showrunner's design for ROP aligns with the mortal sin that fundamentally changes the craft of Professor Tolkien's Canon and the spectacular secondary world, as Melkor enslaved, corrupted, and broke the firstborn children of Iluvatar, the elves.

@LincolnDWard

Жыл бұрын

That comment was about people who attack the actors personally for their involvement, not about people who simply "oppose the show." Don't defend evil behavior simply because you agree with some of the points the bad people are making.

@NovRen19

Жыл бұрын

@@LincolnDWard we have clearly defined our own position against the design of the showrunner's who have proven they cannot be trusted either to phans or the material of Professor Tolkien. Their comments exaggerate reality and they offer no proof of these "bad people". We stand firmly with good story and Tolkien Orthodoxy, and we invite u to discover Exsurge Tolkien and our own series of Dor Vahdor. Peace be too u.

@mikem9001

Жыл бұрын

@@LincolnDWard "That comment was about people who attack the actors personally for their involvement" No, it was a comment about fans in general. Don't defend evil behavior simply because you agree with some of the points the bad people are making.

@shannondavis3686

Жыл бұрын

@@LincolnDWard -. “In a statement that is likely to enrage disappointed fans, Payne generalized critics of The Rings of Power as being upset with its diversity, particularly with the casting of BIPOC actors. “The spirit of Tolkien is about disparate peoples who don’t trust one another and look different from one another finding common ground in friendship…That this aspiration would be offensive to people and enrage them…it’s very hard for us to understand.” He then said that critics are not defending Tolkien’s legacy, as they claim, stating “I don’t see how people who are saying these things think that they’re fighting for good…It’s patently evil.”

sub earned cheers from Germany

@rakor8914

Жыл бұрын

sub 99 yeah

Guyladriel somehow reminds me of Lucifer from Devilman Crybaby.

Loving the classical guitar track! I wish I could love Guylad but they have murdered her character. Almost feels intentional (!!!)

This show pisses me off so much. That level of bad writing has to be intentional.

@backwardscompatible9238

Жыл бұрын

I would be more devastated it if was due to their incompetence. If it’s just intentional that would explain so much, but if they are incompetent this show is forever lost and can only serve as an instruction manual on how to alienate your audience.

@namenloss730

Жыл бұрын

@@backwardscompatible9238 come on dude! Who doesn't like being called patently evil?

@backwardscompatible9238

Жыл бұрын

The likes to dislikes under finale trailer is 8,773likes to 57,277 dislikes. Clearly there is many people who are evil watching this show. I wonder what it feels like to know most people who watch ROP are evil and hate it.

@namenloss730

Жыл бұрын

@@backwardscompatible9238 I saw torrent stats on RoP and HotD. At least we can be satisfied in knowing about 5x more people are illegally downloading HotD than RoP. At least those numbers are at the consumer level and are objective

@backwardscompatible9238

Жыл бұрын

Numbers don’t lie :)

slow motion shots of them riding: oh OK this is actually pretty cool, I can see the budget here close-up of Galadriel's face: OH GOD NO GO BACK TO THE TERRIBLE DIALOGUE, PLEASE

@backwardscompatible9238

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 yes!

thats the point shes greta thunberg of the rings

If Galadriel is forever stuck in the past, what would happen to her during the Third and Fourth Ages?

i think that pinocchio character has a better moral grown than galadriel.. but unlike pinocchio at least she is fireproof

04:03 no respect for his Mother in law 😢

When you focus on agendas instead of story and character.

Isnt the villain a elf aswell? Shes insane xd

I feel for the actors in this dumpster fire which has in all practicality lessened their chance of future rolls.

this is even worse than a bad school film project with 1b$ budget

She's not an evil character. She is EVIL ITSELF.

@backwardscompatible9238

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

Galadriel is the best thing that happened to this series.

Karendriel

And here is the thing, the really insane thought that you have to try and wrap your head around. I think it's fair to say that our myths and stories, our heroes and their examples, are a big part of how a society develops, the norms that it keeps, and the ideals that it holds sacred. Now, for all means and purposes, these writers did their best to have her, in their minds, going above and beyond everyone and everything, she was to be the paragon of virtue and all the admirable traits that define a hero. That being said, she was written with the mindset that her actions, all this crazy shit, all the very questionable actions and moments, the non existing compassion for anything other than what she wants, has to be seen as all highly virtuous acts. That's a really eye opening moment when you think that a current generation, or at least a percentage it, and the one that controls basically what amounts to subliminal programming to a degree, can find her actions to be honorable in the least. Basically, in short, with each day that goes by now and all the issues and insanity... think we're just basically and royally fucked at this point. We're basically in the death throws of a dying system and as much as people talk shit about it, it was literally the best thing anyone has had in the history of the world up to this point, and was very far ahead of the rest in means of quality of life for the very large majority. What's next, despite the pinkos preaching different, I don't see being better but rather infinitely worse. The death of Rome led to the Dark Ages in Europe... just imagine that with modern tech...

@backwardscompatible9238

Жыл бұрын

On the positive note perhaps the backlash that this show is getting is a sign of hope and not all is lost. But it is very true that the fact that the story was written in the belief that Galadriel Is, as you you said, her actions are virtuous - and this is a very concerning signs of the direction that the culture is going in.

@doomsdaybooty1072

Жыл бұрын

You know, I feel you, and I don't disagree, but the future hasn't been written yet. We write it with our actions. And despair is the best way to bring about the future you are despairing over. I think Denethor's character is Tolkien exploring this idea.

Seems like the people that created this series never read anything Tolkien ever wrote. So they shouldn't have the right to call it after his creation.

OK. The "There's a tempest in me" is a DIRECT line ripoff of Elizabeth Cate Blanchette movie.

When the hero of your story makes one of the most evil characters in literature look good in comparison, you have really screwed up.

it's kind of amazing to manage to write such an unlikable character

Well, at the very least non of this is canon

good review of something so awful

Great show, but simply it is not Tolkien story. In my opinion Galadriel and Sauron are great characters, their interactions are heart of this show so far, I do like it. But I must emphathize am not looking for Tolkien books in this show at all. I simply look for interesting engaging story. This story has many minor flaws(to many subplots for example), but main characters and their interactions are just great.

Rings Of Power is not a total failure: there are a lot of fun videos about how shitty this show is!

Something I think is important to recognize - coming from someone who sees a lot of flaws in this show but still finds it enjoyable over all - is that Galadriel is _not_ the hero. No one is. Tolkien's work can essentially be divided into two big thematic sections: _Lord of the Rings_ is the story of how *weakness triumphs;* everything before that, from the _Silmarillion_ to _The Hobbit,_ is about how *greatness fails.* I was worried at first that this show, coming from Amazon in the twenty-first century, wouldn't understand that, but that conversation in Episode 6 (along with a few other things that happened that episode) actually reassured me that the filmmakers had some idea of the themes they were dealing with and that Galadriel's character was going somewhere. It was reassuring to see her villainous tendencies acknowledged, setting her up for the long-term character growth that climaxes in her rejection of the power to do exactly what she's talking about here when Frodo offers her the One Ring. Over all, the show has some inconsistencies and is definitely working on a TV show production schedule, but I don't mind hanging out in these storytellers' version of Middle-Earth for a while as all these various threads work their way through.

@2st486

Жыл бұрын

i think this show is a test to see how many people still see the antichrist as the villain or are ready to accept it as their lord XD

@backwardscompatible9238

Жыл бұрын

That would explain so much :)

@mikem9001

Жыл бұрын

ROP "Galadriel" is completely different to Tolkien's Galadriel. The former is petulant, uncaring, vengeful and evil - everything that Tolkien's Galadriel rejected, long before the Second Age. By this time she was at least 4,000 years old, married with a 1,000 year old daughter, and considered one of the wisest beings in Middle Earth. The whole point of Frodo offering her the Ring is that it is evil and will corrupt even the best of characters if they use it - the same reason Gandalf and Elrond rejected it. "Over all, the show has some inconsistencies" Yes in the same way that the sea is not above the clouds...

@doomsdaybooty1072

Жыл бұрын

It's not the story of how weakness triumphs, it's the story that the strength of a people is in the goodness of their hearts, the small acts of kindness, the willingness to have faith in the face of the darkness and pain in life. Rather than the triumph of weakness I would call it the strength of faith.

@LincolnDWard

Жыл бұрын

@@doomsdaybooty1072 what is faith but an acceptance of one's own weakness and a willingness to surrender to someone else's goodness?

Short answer. No. Just, no. Long answer. No. Flawed, battle-scarred, traumatized? Absolutely. And this has precedent in Tolkien's texts. But evil? No.

crap on crap... is this tv show.. so..uhm rings of crap?

When Punisher, John Wick or Beatrix do this, they are "sooooo coool". When Galadriel does it for better reasons, she is evil. I hate this generation so much, you are all so soft.

@doomsdaybooty1072

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A character has to be properly motivated. The audience knows that small women are not typically as strong as the men around them, so why is she so strong? Show us. Why is she so angry? Her brother died... along with thousands of other people. Why does this affect Galadriel so much more than other elves? Show us. Is she a good leader? We're showed the opposite, and that her soldiers are incompetent without her. None of this endears the character to the audience. I contend that if the writers could properly and competently explain why she is who she is, people would not hate her so much. I sometimes will also say "I hate this generation so much" but I would be referencing the terrible writing and disrespect and disregard for Tolkien's lore and intentions. But then, I'm not of this generation 🤷‍♂️

Interesting... I liked her... She's a warrior...on a mission. If she was a man and not so pretty people wouldn't even bat an eye at her actions and manner of speaking. I think her mannerisms will change and that's what long series like to do now. They start off a character with one disposition and gradually change them into another. That makes things interesting. Just like making us all believe he was a human and he ends up being the dark lord LOL. Daenerys was a good heir to the throne and once she gets there she Burns it all up. It would not be surprising to me that she softens her ways after being so duped by him. Then It will humble and soften her. Again, it's a contrast to see such a pretty girl so full of revenge and murderous anger. The contrast between her looks and personality is what throws people off. I think the finale will have changed her personality. Especially seeing as she had to melt down her brother's dagger. The knife is the icon for her revenge. It's a visual telltale of her transformation to come.

@backwardscompatible9238

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I think this is a very generous take on her character development :) I do hope she changes and we get a better Galadriel.

@doomsdaybooty1072

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Well, that's very obviously the writers' intentions. I don't think they pulled it off. For one, they failed to explain her motivations. She's vengeful. Why? Her brother died. In a war. Where thousands of elves and men died. Everyone she knows has lost almost everyone they know in this great war. I can't believe that this character would react in this way, this uniquely from everyone else, because they haven't explained it. When she talks the Numenorean queen into invading the Southlands, I don't believe it. The queen has only reason to feel annoyed at her. She has been rude and entitled, so why would the queen warm to her, agree to assemble an army to save a land they know nothing about? The writers are just failing to convince the audience of the stakes, and that the characters know the stakes.

@user-de8bc2rr6m

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You have no idea of good writing and of what a genocidal Sociopath is then. They wrote Guyladriel like the absolute evil, you have no idea of what expirienced warrior also is

You are some how missing a great deal. Sorry for you.

@mikem9001

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Such as?

I love how you say "seree-s"

Does she own a hair brush?