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@tomtube1012

3 ай бұрын

Peter Jackson has Liv Tyler as Arwen, so his version wins.

I still don't understand why Rings of Power chose to give so many of the elves short hair. The long, flowing hair was part of what made them look so ethereal in Peter Jackson's films.

@LudvigW

7 ай бұрын

Exactly! And also I find their armour and costumes to look cheaper than in PJs movies.

@SuperAlfern

5 ай бұрын

@@LudvigW Where did the budget go? Jacksons films had a lower budget than RoP, yet still looks miles better. What happened?

@Hex-kt2vr

5 ай бұрын

I'm not sure what year it was, but the 1977(?) version had "The Beatles" hair style for all the hobbits. Perhaps it comes from the same seed of thought.. + I don't think they particularly cared what the books told.. they wanted their own version.. a trademark of sorts. All speculation, though.

@KoufalKoufax

5 ай бұрын

books describe them as elegant with long hair and other shit far from what you said @@Hex-kt2vr

@dhlhthriwdhskissos9606

5 ай бұрын

Because they are idiots

The best part of Rings of Power was how it highlighted what an incredible masterpiece Peter Jackson created.

@Muz__27

Жыл бұрын

100%

@mereanawi6194

Жыл бұрын

AGREED

@HazardRoz

Жыл бұрын

Let's watch that masterpiece one more time!

@euchiii3596

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Even makes the hobbit way better since I heard not everyone loved that one version than LOTR.

@MisterDutch93

Жыл бұрын

We could’ve gotten it so much worse. Really makes you think how blessed we are with Peter Jackson’s adaptations.

Jackson made Elves. Amazon made Californians.

Amazon's elves look like Jackson's elves breeded with hobbits 😂

@saintmaurice9967

3 ай бұрын

and some with orcs 😂

@savageone8931

2 ай бұрын

*Bred. But, yes, I agree.

@roseluo6000

2 ай бұрын

You said what I wanted to say! Hahahahahahahaha

@joyoriana

2 ай бұрын

with orcs

@ruthestersalgadomunoz1594

2 ай бұрын

Mejor comentario jajajajaj

Jackson's elves are absolutely ethereal. RoP's elves just look like random people who stumbled onto the wrong set and put on ears

@LudvigW

9 ай бұрын

Kinda looks like a school project tbh

@milad-snj

9 ай бұрын

😢😢😢😢😢😢 respect ‏‪3:08‬‏

@monsterrex8929

9 ай бұрын

The one on the left looks more mature. The one on the right feels like a child pretending to be an adult. A tiktok elf style.

@sydneyslaughter7163

9 ай бұрын

With some of those haircuts, they look like Vulcans

@havilandsgamerchannel8586

8 ай бұрын

@@sydneyslaughter7163 I was literally thinking that as I was watching! I thought, with short hair like that, they're more Vulcan than Elvish.

It's such a luck that Jackson got actual elfs for these roles

@gabrielcardoso8512

11 ай бұрын

👌🗿

@jinnhellman

10 ай бұрын

amazon got actual orcs for elven roles

@lulumaverick

9 ай бұрын

@@jinnhellman They even got a Goblin playing young Elrond 😂

@shawnamiller191

9 ай бұрын

And used Humans for the Dwarves in the hobbit?

@BondsProduction

9 ай бұрын

@@shawnamiller191 sadly yes...

They managed to make young Elrond seem more like a hobbit than an elf

@EvaLorna

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. 😂

@Ale-dd3ek

Ай бұрын

He looks like an Hybrid between Di Caprio and Donald Trump

@informationjunkie

Ай бұрын

Celebrimbor too

The elves in rings of power have short hair because if you couldnt see their pointy ears youd have no idea they were elves.

@helioshyperion8077

2 ай бұрын

and yet the long hair elves in Lotr you could spot them from miles away to be an elf!

@J.Wolf90

Ай бұрын

Writers think people are stupid

@kennymepfhiio3302

Ай бұрын

Maybe it's just me but I thought Jackson's elves looked more simple with their long hair yet had an elegance and fairness to them

@WarrenBotes

Ай бұрын

😂

@marykavanrensburg9693

Ай бұрын

I think it's also part of their goal to reflect a "modern society" because (sarcasticly) *of course* LOTR is made to reflect the modern world. I am surprised we didn't have more pixie cuts and lumo hair.

No one beats Cate Blanchett as Galadriel, sorry. She was so ethereal, almost eerie. Perfect for the role.

@Fuutor

Жыл бұрын

Yeah she was scary af. Which is super dope, it's probably one of very few downsides of "perfection" and I guess the elves do symbolize perfection

@Mendenhall05

Жыл бұрын

She was perfect. And the eeriness was absolutely perfect and meant for the character. She is not meant to be “human”. She is meant to be something so much more. A being that has lived thousands of years. A being that considers a lifetime as fleeting. As something normally of little consequence. She is meant to stand apart as almost an otherworldly figure. And LoTRs did her perfectly. That eeriness highlighting something a human cannot fully understand. And not a malevolence, but almost an uncanny valley eeriness, where something appears human but yet “off somehow. I enjoyed RoP. And I see what they were going for, they wanted a “younger” character. So made her more brash, more impulsive, less apart from her “humanness” because time hasn’t built such a chasm. But, although I understand the move, it is something that needed to be done with incredible subtlety and nuance. She is still thousands of years old in the show. She still had seen entire empires rise and fall. She had still seen Dark Lords attempt to rule the world and be beaten back. It’s like RoP took the tact of “if elves live to 10,000 years, then at 1,000 years they’re a child, 2,500 years theyre a young adult..” etc. And made her a brash young adult. Instead of realizing a 2,500 year old being is still 2,500 years old. Again can adjust the character but it had to be very subtle and instead it wasn’t at all.

@Mendenhall05

Жыл бұрын

She was perfect. And the eeriness was absolutely perfect and meant for the character. She is not meant to be “human”. She is meant to be something so much more. A being that has lived thousands of years. A being that considers a lifetime as fleeting. As something normally of little consequence. She is meant to stand apart as almost an otherworldly figure. And LoTRs did her perfectly. That eeriness highlighting something a human cannot fully understand. And not a malevolence, but almost an uncanny valley eeriness, where something appears human but yet “off somehow. I enjoyed RoP. And I see what they were going for, they wanted a “younger” character. So made her more brash, more impulsive, less apart from her “humanness” because time hasn’t built such a chasm. But, although I understand the move, it is something that needed to be done with incredible subtlety and nuance. She is still thousands of years old in the show. She still had seen entire empires rise and fall. She had still seen Dark Lords attempt to rule the world and be beaten back. It’s like RoP took the tact of “if elves live to 10,000 years, then at 1,000 years they’re a child, 2,500 years theyre a young adult..” etc. And made her a brash young adult. Instead of realizing a 2,500 year old being is still 2,500 years old. Again can adjust the character but it had to be very subtle and instead it wasn’t at all.

@Mendenhall05

Жыл бұрын

She was perfect. And the eeriness was absolutely perfect and meant for the character. She is not meant to be “human”. She is meant to be something so much more. A being that has lived thousands of years. A being that considers a lifetime as fleeting. As something normally of little consequence. She is meant to stand apart as almost an otherworldly figure. And LoTRs did her perfectly. That eeriness highlighting something a human cannot fully understand. And not a malevolence, but almost an uncanny valley eeriness, where something appears human but yet “off somehow. I enjoyed RoP. And I see what they were going for, they wanted a “younger” character. So made her more brash, more impulsive, less apart from her “humanness” because time hasn’t built such a chasm. But, although I understand the move, it is something that needed to be done with incredible subtlety and nuance. She is still thousands of years old in the show. She still had seen entire empires rise and fall. She had still seen Dark Lords attempt to rule the world and be beaten back. It’s like RoP took the tact of “if elves live to 10,000 years, then at 1,000 years they’re a child, 2,500 years theyre a young adult..” etc. And made her a brash young adult. Instead of realizing a 2,500 year old being is still 2,500 years old. Again can adjust the character but it had to be very subtle and instead it wasn’t at all.

@Mendenhall05

Жыл бұрын

She was perfect. And the eeriness was absolutely perfect and meant for the character. She is not meant to be “human”. She is meant to be something so much more. A being that has lived thousands of years. A being that considers a lifetime as fleeting. As something normally of little consequence. She is meant to stand apart as almost an otherworldly figure. And LoTRs did her perfectly. That eeriness highlighting something a human cannot fully understand. And not a malevolence, but almost an uncanny valley eeriness, where something appears human but yet “off somehow. I enjoyed RoP. And I see what they were going for, they wanted a “younger” character. So made her more brash, more impulsive, less apart from her “humanness” because time hasn’t built such a chasm. But, although I understand the move, it is something that needed to be done with incredible subtlety and nuance. She is still thousands of years old in the show. She still had seen entire empires rise and fall. She had still seen Dark Lords attempt to rule the world and be beaten back. It’s like RoP took the tact of “if elves live to 10,000 years, then at 1,000 years they’re a child, 2,500 years theyre a young adult..” etc. And made her a brash young adult. Instead of realizing a 2,500 year old being is still 2,500 years old. Again can adjust the character but it had to be very subtle and instead it wasn’t at all.

"The Rings of Power" exists only to confirm that Peter Jackson's "Lord of the Rings" is an unrivaled, incomparable work of art.

@LudvigW

8 ай бұрын

Amen!

@bdleo300

4 ай бұрын

The Rings of Power is actually a parody of LOTR 😀

@filinfoll6259

4 ай бұрын

@@bdleo300 I would even say a parody of a parody!

@user-dt1qd4ez5q

3 ай бұрын

You are right

@lillic4712

3 ай бұрын

What a bullshit Nothing is unrivaled ! And the power of ring is before the lord of the rings!! This are two different stories!! And you look and are totaly different when you were young then later ! Don't speak about things you have no idea!!

Peter jackson elves: beauty, grace, elegance, and powerfull aura Rings of power elves: just ordinary human with pointy ears

@starkiller3098

Ай бұрын

Rings of power elves: inbreds

@ValXmaR0

6 күн бұрын

Amazon failed

I think Galadriel in Jackson's version is the best representation of tolkiens elves. Somehow she feels magical and above all else.

@maikilreategui1271

Ай бұрын

Yep. Direct inspirations from the Holy Mother Mary ☝️

@amany247

29 күн бұрын

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم A message to the world: Every day, the State of Israel brutally kills defenseless children without any mercy, with American support and deliberate media distortion of the truth of their crimes. Search for the truth, as racism still exists and Western countries still view human souls in a racist and classist manner. May God guide everyone No god but Allah Islam way for peace and real monotheist Search about the truth with honest heart

@amany247

29 күн бұрын

May God (Allah) guide everyone astray. Whoever searches the books knows very well that the Trinity, divinity, and humanity are not present in them, and there is no mention of them or of Christ’s confession that he is God, God forbid. They are all interpretations of priests, as if God needs explanations for the basis of his divinity. In all religions there are differences, but the origin is clear with regard to God, except for Christianity. God. There are throughout history conflicts over his divinity and identity. Christ himself was calling on God and asking Him like any human being. God guided everyone to His unity and satisfaction Whoever searches for answers to doubts about Islam will find them, but most people want what their priests allow Allah help you all to find the way

@amany247

29 күн бұрын

May God (Allah) guide everyone astray. Whoever searches the books knows very well that the Trinity, divinity, and humanity are not present in them, and there is no mention of them or of Christ’s confession that he is God, God forbid. They are all interpretations of priests, as if God needs explanations for the basis of his divinity. In all religions there are differences, but the origin is clear with regard to God, except for Christianity. God. There are throughout history conflicts over his divinity and identity. Christ himself was calling on God and asking Him like any human being. God guided everyone to His unity and satisfaction Whoever searches for answers to doubts about Islam will find them, but most people want what their priests allow

@amany247

29 күн бұрын

@@maikilreategui1271 May God (Allah) guide everyone astray. Whoever searches the books knows very well that the Trinity, divinity, and humanity are not present in them, and there is no mention of them or of Christ’s confession that he is God, God forbid. They are all interpretations of priests, as if God needs explanations for the basis of his divinity. In all religions there are differences, but the origin is clear with regard to God, except for Christianity. God. There are throughout history conflicts over his divinity and identity. Christ himself was calling on God and asking Him like any human being. God guided everyone to His unity and satisfaction Whoever searches for answers to doubts about Islam will find them, but most people want what their priests allow

It’s actually really incredible Amazon was able to spend the most amount of money in human history on a tv series and still produce some of the worst actors and writers on the planet. This is actually a feat in itself.

@LudvigW

9 ай бұрын

They should get an award for that tbh.

@voiruzeclorum8152

8 ай бұрын

Они просто отмывают деньги и уходят от налогов , а этот сериал просто прикрытие , 80-90 процентов от этих денег оказалось на личном счёте Джефа Безоса и иных причастных лиц. Думайте головой

@thijmen5295

8 ай бұрын

Money can’t buy talent unfortunately

@sethael1741

8 ай бұрын

Ever played any of their games? They have money, yes. But no soul nor talent.

@flogo-ottenok

8 ай бұрын

​@@voiruzeclorum8152ты тупой? Безос владелец компании Амазон и в пятерке самых богатых людей в мире. Ему этот триллион долларов нах не нужен.

Movie elves are like calm celestial beings of wisdom. Amazon elves are like emotional humans with issues.

@estaextrana8486

Жыл бұрын

Or depressed witches like Galadriel

@Heat3YT2

Жыл бұрын

This is accurate and more like how they are in the texts. The elves barely participate in the LOTR and it is written from the perspective of Frodo and Bilbo. They are otherworldly to them. Sam wants to see elf magic. Eomer thinks Galadriel is a dangerous witch. So it is fitting that they are portrayed that way in the films. The first and second ages involves the wars of the elves. The texts are written from the perspective of the elves and of numenoreans. They don’t view themselves as otherworldly. They view themselves as normal people. They have struggles and failures. Lots and lots of failures. Elves are not mysterious to other elves or to numenoreans. The way they are in the show is fitting to these stories.

@asm7406

Жыл бұрын

@@Heat3YT2 No

@Patrick-qed

Жыл бұрын

You are comparing "movie [E]lves" to "Amazon [E]lves"? I am gathering you haven't read Tolkien's writings. Do you know what the three Kinslayings are? If you did, you might realize that Elves have "issues."

@notwhiterefrigeratoromgple4085

Жыл бұрын

For me i actually like the amazon more emotional in my opinion in the other hand in the old movies they act like robots "just my opinion"

Elves are supposed to have a relaxed, peaceful yet prideful personality as the opposite to the short-tempered, irritable personality of the dwarves. That is supposed to be one of the reasons they don't get along well. Tolkien actually used the word Elf instead of fairy (because he thought the word fairy was already corrupted). Elven spirits are in considerably greater control of their bodies, the reason they don't age, according to Tolkien. (Could be a reason why they don't have kids like rabbits like our grandparents). The thing is THEY ARE NOT HUMANS. You could think of them as aliens. THEY ARE ANOTHER SPECIES. But in Rings of power they show a Galadriel that behave like a teenage Karen. Nothing like Tolkien Galadriel And the people are full of wrikles. They are just humans with pointy ears 😭 According to Tolkien Elven aren't supposed to age at all.

@okamiwantsmoney

4 ай бұрын

Also Elven men with short hair. That's heresy. Tolkien will judge you in the afterlife Amazon

@jiyuchan17

3 ай бұрын

Exactly, elves are not human. As simple as that but sadly the production team's mind are corrupted with all the political agenda.

@enable_h

3 ай бұрын

Elves age, but stop physically ageing after a century of their birth or so, if I remember correctly. And elves do have children.

@acab3146

3 ай бұрын

ye, those enormous wrinkles is what immediately caught my eye in trailer. And i thought that in PJ's LotR they should have made a better makeup for Cate Blanchett to hide even smallest mimical ones lmao

@JohnDoe-il4dz

2 ай бұрын

And LOTR's Elrond doesn't have wrinkles? E.g. 3:36. You people exaggerate too much. While overall LOTR's cast was better and it has absolutely fantastic characters like Lee Pace's Thranduil, neither was it perfect nor was RoP's cast entirely bad.

one of my favorite stories is how when filming galadriels scenes they rigged an array of christmas lights so that the reflection of the light in her eye would appear starry and ethereal. The amount of effort put into the most minute aspects of that film truly demonstrate what a masterpiece the trilogy was.

I just don't understand why the makers of Rings of Power thought turning Elves more "relatable" by making their appearance more mundane and casual was a good idea. Elves SHOULD look ethereal and otherworldly! They SHOULD exude unnatural beauty and elegance that makes them seem almost alien. When I look at Jackson's interpretation of the elves, I immediately get the feeling that I am facing an ageless, knowing creature marked by countless decades of memories. When I look at the elves from Rings of Power, I see Jeff from accounting, who has glued on a pair of pointed ears for Halloween and squeezed into a cheap costume from the bargain bin. I guess the makers of Rings of Power thought this change would make viewers identify more with the elves. They probably also wanted to come across as more "progressive". But they missed the mark by so much that it's almost ridiculous. When I am told a story about elves, dwarves or other fantasy characters, I WANT them to be fantasy characters whose appearance, behaviour and thinking are different from ours. If these beings present and behave exactly like you and me, then they could just as easily have been normal people.

@LudvigW

8 ай бұрын

Very well said.

@melissapowell1841

7 ай бұрын

"when I look at the elves from rop I see Jeff from accounting". PERFECT!!!

@superpantman

7 ай бұрын

You’re 100% correct. The same argument can be made for Galadriel, who they turned into a brat. This isn’t in keeping with the elves at all. That’s not what their race is about. Man acts rashly, elves have forever and their characters resemble that perfectly in LOTR.

@danielsark4118

5 ай бұрын

Agree totally. If the decision was "make it authentic" vs "get the viewers we think we want", they'll only choose latter when the former got us the original LOTR I can understand wanting to please the audience but if you pretend it won't get published you'll think "OH well then I'd do THIS" and chances are it'll be better

@LifeLikeSage

5 ай бұрын

It's because elves are a different species, and the woke culture hates the idea of races and wants everything to be the same, hence, their elves are just regular people with pointy ears.

It’s not just the way they look, it’s how they behave, how they carry themselves. The Amazon show really makes them feel simply like humans.

@Varvara_the_beauty

Жыл бұрын

And they also do look very simple. They're dressed very poorly and their ears look like they were bought from Shein

@TheRamrod3001

Жыл бұрын

The Amazon show makes them feel like simple humans.

@Alteori

Жыл бұрын

this!

@silkscrim

Жыл бұрын

and the way they move: elves are supposed to be graceful, angelic, almost gliding and without wasted movements. Even when they fight, it's stylish and graceful

@x0gucx

Жыл бұрын

Galadriel in LotR: Regal, powerful, calm Galadriel in RoP: F*ck you F*ck you F*ck you I demand that you help me but F*ck you.

The Rings of Power actually made the Hobbit Trilogy look like a Masterpiece.

Peter Jackson: elongated face, long hair Amazon: broad face, short hair

@nubiasista9709

2 ай бұрын

I know right. Like, wtf is up with that? It's so weird. Smh

@MemeMania001

29 күн бұрын

Alright! It's stout, both hairs and faces then.

Went from beautiful mystical creatures to regular looking people you see at the grocery store

@LudvigW

8 ай бұрын

So true, and so sad.

@analauramorelrocha2383

5 ай бұрын

Disagree, If I saw those people in a grocery story, I'd run away screaming

@elizabethtrudgill3567

4 ай бұрын

60s Star Trek makeup.

The elves in the movies look like elves. They look ethereal, beautiful, and ageless. The elves in the Amazon show look like humans with pointed ears. Edit: “If into the comment section you go, only pain will you find.”

@adbylsh2756

Жыл бұрын

From having watched neither I can say the rings of powers elf’s look better

@nah_.

Жыл бұрын

@@adbylsh2756 i haven't seen either and I would say the opposite. They look too plain now

@Boogeyyyman

Жыл бұрын

@@adbylsh2756, I accept your opinion but most people including myself see Peter Jacksons elves as superior.

@KnightRonin0103

Жыл бұрын

100% Peter Jackson did a wonderful adaptation

@JNate_Nair

Жыл бұрын

@@adbylsh2756 friend i think your brain is farting....

Galadriel deserved better. It’s not that she couldn’t fight in combat. She really had little to no need to fight with swords or fists since she was such a powerful elf in magic having herself lived in Lorien (in Beleriand before it was destroyed) and learned from the Maia Melian.

@QueenPancake-

Күн бұрын

According to Amazon, being a boss bitch, slay Queen, girl boss of power is the only way for a woman to be strong.

I haven't seen Rings of Power but when you see the two styles side by side it's absolutely amazing how the effects and costumes department managed to make the Peter Jackson Elves look so otherwordly and beautiful

@MichaelHill-we7vt

29 күн бұрын

what? You HAVEN'T seen Rings of Power.....You lucky b*****d..........!!

Casting a Galadriel who’s barely taller than a dwarf and acts like a toddler is unforgivable.

@mrdjchasm

Жыл бұрын

I dont think it was casting though. An actor shouldn't be to blame when the script portrays her childishly and ALL the elves in the show lack the grace and stillness that was in Peter Jackson portrayals. It's director and screenplay at fault to me. Heck she seems like she did exactly what they told her to based on the story and show.

@mrdjchasm

Жыл бұрын

And that's a sign of good acting imo.

@masont2429

Жыл бұрын

@@mrdjchasm I think you’re right. Bad decisions made on all fronts

@ullazitabinder2091

Жыл бұрын

You call her a toddler :) at least she is a very young elf, not adult as the Galadriel we know from PJ. Ofc she is childish, she lacks the wisdom and patience that comes from having lived a long life :)

@masont2429

Жыл бұрын

@@ullazitabinder2091 how old do you think Galadriel is? How old does an elf have to be before he or she is considered old”? Long before the second age, she had the wisdom to discern Feanor’s ill intentions.

I used to think Orlando Bloom was cast because he has a pretty face. PoR makes me realize not everyone can look like an elf, Orlando Bloom has that elegant, grace, and elvish aura. He absolutely nail the Silvan Elf role.

@avatarlhamo3063

Жыл бұрын

it’s not that much of the face it’s how they are told to act. 99% of an elf is that. That’s why we call that actors, and acting

@95ellington

Жыл бұрын

if you think he's good looking. Look at Lee Pace.

@euchiii3596

Жыл бұрын

@@avatarlhamo3063 true, the direction he was instructed to follow. That is why we call directors too for directing.

@euchiii3596

Жыл бұрын

@@95ellington Lee pace was a very good elf king. He portray the role so well I really believed him to be elf of thousand years old and a father and a king despite him being younger than Orlando. Love Hugo too.

@atharvadeshpande4749

Жыл бұрын

And to even imagine the dude also played a dirty pirate. My GOD if he's got range as an actor.

1:18 that elf sniffing his own armpit stench pretty much sums up the rings of power.

Ah yes, Tolkein's Galadriel the psychotic war criminal.

Amazon logic: It took the elves 3,000 years to grow out their hair

@KateeAngel

Жыл бұрын

🤣 indeed

@hanyelzoghpy7193

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@db2466

Жыл бұрын

😂

@buyimncube2588

Жыл бұрын

Now that you mention it🤣😅

@ischeele7203

Жыл бұрын

Every elf freaked out and cut their hair after what happened to Glorfindel in Gondolin

It’s not even a competition. Peter Jackson and everyone involved in those movies crushed it.

@riverfilms4548

Жыл бұрын

Even the Hobbit Movies, which seemed weak before now are a masterpiece...

@ethanglasgow7612

Жыл бұрын

@@riverfilms4548 I think the hobbit suffered mostly because it shouldn’t have been a trilogy. The Hobbit book is only a couple hundred pages, and while Jackson had to cut things out of the Lotr trilogy, he instead had to add so much filler to make the hobbit the “epic” he wanted it to be. But, considering RoP is nothing but useless filler, it’s still leagues above it

@arisenomega

Жыл бұрын

@@riverfilms4548 Yeah I just thought the same thing, it's the Star Wars thing all over again, with a weird new show/movie making the older ones that were previously considered shit, look pretty decent again! I am actually gonna re-watch the Hobbit now, even if just to see proper elves, and I have no doubt those movies will seem pretty good compared to how garbage Rings of Power turned out to be.

@Xerxes2005

Жыл бұрын

@@arisenomega Nah, it's just that fanatics have a fresher bone to gnaw on.

@Tawadeb

Жыл бұрын

@@ethanglasgow7612 the Hobbit movies are perfect and bring in the appendices well

I just realised... Galadriel, even as far back as the making of the silmarils, had great foresight and wisdom. She may have had combat powers, but her wisdom and foresight surpassed that enough for her to be known for the latter. Amazon makes her sound egoistic, petulent, a caricature of herself imagine by people that neither understand Tolkien's elves nor understand that "strong woman" doesn't have to mean "physically strong".

@spiritualliving8318

26 күн бұрын

Correct, but these showmakers have agendas so they will turn stuff like Lotr and star wars into hot garbage.

@FreedomIII

15 күн бұрын

@@spiritualliving8318 Agendas don't really mean anything, though. Moyazaki Hayao has agendas, and his and Studio Ghibli's movies are as beloved as Tokien's works. Terry Pratchett also had agendas, and the Discworld books are bloody legendary. The difference is that the ones I mentioned were/are decent writers, unlike whoever wrote and directed Amazon's pile of garbage ┐(´д｀)┌

@spiritualliving8318

15 күн бұрын

@@FreedomIII inserting your agendas and just doing random shit with the story is part of what makes it bad writing, they don’t care about the source material and would rather change or adjust characters and do random shit, yes the writing is also ass

In North European mythology and folklore (Tolkien's inspiration) elves, fairies, vilas, etc are majestic, almost ethereal beings... Galadriel and Arwen from LOTR are perfect examples... nothing to do with these Mickey Mouse elves, caricatures from ROP.

I'd like to note the elves in the movies act highly formal, regal, and speak with dignity. The problem with RoP is they act too casual and speak in tones that normal humans would in the movies as well. They act too casual and human-like.

@lukebatchelor717

Жыл бұрын

sounds like people trying to SOUND smart and comes of very stilted, inauthentic. The speech should come off aged, but sounds more like a bad impression.

@isabellajensen9480

Жыл бұрын

The RoP elves act like they're trying to be in game of thrones. Lee Pace (Thranduil) and Orlando actually worked with a movement coach to embody the grace and majestic movement of elves.

@moniquemunizbarreto9318

Жыл бұрын

very well said

@erickmoya1401

Жыл бұрын

They speak paused. Because, what is the next 300 years in the story of earth? They want to care, but they find it hard. Humans rush, because we have little time, they shouldnt

@srehh5529

Жыл бұрын

The elves feel too human in RoP, but also too stoic and formal in the Jackson films. They're supposed to show many emotions in the book like any other race as well. Elves love singing. They feel great joy and sadness as well. I think the animated LotR film did the most accurate elves. Galadriel isn't reserved and holds back from showing emotions, but she's still graceful and royal in her demeanor

Jackson's elves are characterised by a stillness. The light diffuses around them and their calm composure gives an world-wise angelic presence. Any movement they do make is fluid, calm and masterful, as that of a being who has lived for a thousand years should.

@colleenross8752

Жыл бұрын

In the films, Elrond and Galadriel have the wisdom and pathos of thousands of years in their voices.

@edwardnigma6963

Жыл бұрын

Precisely! Subtlety makes them appear more untouchable.

@tolojr

Жыл бұрын

Amazon humanized the elves too much.

@Incurtus

Жыл бұрын

Also all elves were supposed to look androgynous and show masc and fem features such as all of them having long hair. I rlly can't believe Amazon just went boys have short hair girls have long hair

@violet-trash

Жыл бұрын

Amazon Galadriel is 1000s of years old, married and has children who have already grown into adults. Yet she behaves like a teenager.

Absolutely none of them have "the look". You want black/hispanic/asian elves? Fine. But they have to have "the look". None of these people are separate from how other races of the world look. All the actors and actresses Peter Jackson's had were all so ethereal. And Galadriel--- good God. I'm 100% for strong female characters. But they totally /changed/ her character. What makes Tolkein's Galadriel so badass is that she doesn't kill with a roar. She kills with a whisper. She steps lightly, femininely, and all respect her. There was NOTHING wrong with the strength that Jackson's Galadriel showed. In my opinion, it was a thousand times more intimidating. When Cate Blanchet walks into a room with that glow, you can here a pin drop. She lacks arrogance, she lacks heavy-handedness. She is living grace and needs only look at an enemy to end them. Amazon's has no grace. There's no 'elf' in her let alone /ancient/ elf. I'm sure the actress herself is fine. Only the directors and writers are to blame here.

Peter Jackson’s perception of elves is so on point (Ethereal and otherworldly beings) that’s his works are such MASTERPIECES

I think the biggest drawback is that you don’t get that feeling of mysticism from the elves of Amazon. Clearly the image they are showing is closer to a human than an elf.

@Raven_Moon777

Жыл бұрын

Elves were always more mystic, connected to super natural, to magic and more spiritual beings than humans. There were reasons why I won´t watch this series and now after this video I am 100% I won´t watch it, lol.

@paulmoses3381

Жыл бұрын

There basically hylians from legend of zelda. Humans with pointy ears.

@claymorexx

Жыл бұрын

Lgbt representation

@2devilbat

Жыл бұрын

@@Helluvabutl3r with all due respect, i think the reason everyone hates it is bc theyre going in with love for lotr. Sprawling landscapes and pretty visuals do not make a good high fantasy series about brotherhood, camaraderie and doing whats right. ive seen so many scenes that completely butchered chracters, established motifs, and literally just writing coming out of an English 101 first week level of skill that its embrassing. Show is a slap in the face for all lotr fans, and show watchers as well.

@castiel4043

Жыл бұрын

They just human Cosplay as elves🤣

Rings of Power turned the Hobbit Trilogy from a decent, albeit flawed, movie series into a masterpiece, and the LOTR one from a masterpiece into a bloody godsent miracle!

@Amp661

Жыл бұрын

Ummmmm no. The Hobbit movies are still trash. VERY far from a masterpiece.

@AlexFireflyer

Жыл бұрын

@Exile Complex All that is true yes, but still. The Hobbit had some very nice things, and some salvageable too, especially when compared to the absolute bullcrap that RoP has to offer, that's all I'm saying!

@vampirecount3880

Жыл бұрын

indeed

@kushan7182

Жыл бұрын

@@Amp661 Compared to amazon fanfic, Hobbit is indeed a masterpiece :) Compared to lotr, it's trash.

@Amp661

Жыл бұрын

@@kushan7182 nope. Hobbit is still crap. I can't give it a free pass just because RoP sucks too.

Amazing how this is a biting critique without needing any voiceover

I regularly revisit this video to mourn the death of cinema.

@LudvigW

4 ай бұрын

Me too 😅

@pplo7

24 күн бұрын

Ya

I love how in Rings of Power the elves are suppose to be younger than they are in Lord Of The Rings, but instead they look substantially older.

@IsomerSoma

Жыл бұрын

The thing is that in the movies thry tried to make them look ageless - neither young nor old.

@wewenang5167

Жыл бұрын

which is utter ridiculous....Galadriel is Elrond mother in law, at least make her look older than this teenage blonde girl lmao

@kallensmith3989

Жыл бұрын

@@wewenang5167 and celebrimbor looks too old , the only elf I believe that was supposed to look old was Cirdan the shipwright

@adinadamian5634

Жыл бұрын

And not only that, on their armor they have that face with a lot of detail that sticks on the outside, how is that practical in any way? Their capes can get stuck on that not to mention I don't understand the meaning that face with leaves around has, it reminds me of some Greek deity, nothing to do with actual Elves and their history or customs.

@elSantoL

Жыл бұрын

Some of them look like Hobbits..

You know something is wrong, when the elves of Amazon are looking more HUMAN than the HUMANS in the Lord of the Rings. The people from Gondor at end of 3rd age looked more elegant than the elves of the first or second age in Amazon which is clearly weird.

@LudvigW

7 ай бұрын

Haha very true

@OfficialDlonem

4 ай бұрын

THIS - respectfully, I STRUGGLED to discern the elves from the humans. In PJ's Trilogy, if you saw long hair and glowing skin, you knew they were an elf. In RoP, everyone has short hair, and instead of focusing on the story/plot you have to take a moment and look if they have pointy ears to TELL if they were an elf, because that's the only characteristic they possessed of one...

@user-pr7ll4pe4j

2 ай бұрын

Low life can't portray high life even if you shower that bugmen with all money of the world. It will remain neurotic blabbering mess. Elves are almost eternal they don't care about pitiful routine, their emotions and thoughts are precise and much stronger than human's. But's it's almost unknown concepts for modern writers and directors.

@Olivia-W

26 күн бұрын

​​​​​@@OfficialDlonemAnd the short hair, and... I could not take RoP Celebrumbor seriously. I couldn't. He's a grandpa with ridiculous clothes, wrinkles, and an almost comedic hairstyle. He's Noldor! He's the grand-effing-son of Fëanáro himself! Where is his _black_ hair??? I mean with Elrond's ancestry I can almost understand (though, that color? From where? Heh?), but Celebrimbor? Also he's younger than Galadriel why does he look like that? Why? And Disa's lack of facial hair. And all the elves. They all look dumb. They have wrinkles and gigantic ears.

The elves in Amazon’s version look like Dollar Store off-brands

0:05 That face is the face of utter defeat when confronted with true elvish beauty

@henrystickman871

Ай бұрын

I genuinely thought it was a hobbit

PJ's elves spoke slowly, calmly, elegantly and ethereal. They are full of knowledge, wisdom and sense. Their movements are fluid and once again, ethereal. Their presence commands everybody's attention. Even the nameless elves are good-looking and enchanted. Dirty elves from battle still look a lot better than the Amazon elves.

@Tenchi707

Жыл бұрын

They made me feel emotions and I felt their emotions

@mkateugale8183

Жыл бұрын

Even in battle they maintain their elegance. Also the music in the movies goes with the character of the elves

@lkmjin

Жыл бұрын

@@Tenchi707 amazon makes me feel emotions too, every second of that product. I cant watch it without utter rage and disgust

@jhtiger1104

Жыл бұрын

@@lkmjin I agree. The elves of ROP are too disgusting.

@xlodvig

Жыл бұрын

I like how Arondil tries to act as an actual elf, when everybody else just impersonates pointy ears humans.

I love how Aragorn, as a dunedain raised by elves, evidently picked up their calm, contemplative, almost mystical traits, but still possessed the slight vulnerability that makes him human. His juxtaposition against the more emotional and expressive Boromir, who better embodied the spirit of Man, makes for one of the more intriguing relationships of the trilogy. You’ll be hard pressed to find nuances like these in the Amazon series, where differences between races are watered down to mere cosmetics. Aragorn was more elvish than any of the elves on TV.

@LudvigW

9 ай бұрын

Well said

@ands3227

9 ай бұрын

But also don't forget, Aragon is part elvish, since his ancestors were.

@FenrirLupo

9 ай бұрын

Well said.

@ThePlatinumDragon

9 ай бұрын

@@ands3227while his ancestors *were* elvish, it isn’t like DnD half elves. They must choose immortality or mortality. Elves or men. His ancestors chose the later. Aragorn is essentially a man. The elvish in him doesn’t count because his ancestors chose to be mortals. Though, he does have the blood of Numenor in him, which was a bloodline blessed to be greater than other men.

@Raumes513

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@ThePlatinumDragon this. Plus numenorians have a little longer of a lifespan than regular humans right? Wasn’t aragorn like 130 or something before he died?

I feel bad for the actress who played Galadriel in RoP. She probably has no clue how absurdly ridiculous and embarrassing her portrayal of the Elven Queen of Lothlorien truly was…

I'm crying my eyes out right now when they show footage of Jackson's classic work. degradation is merciless

Appearance wise what I find absolutely hilarious is that in Rings of power we see a lot of elves with short human haircuts while in J.R.R Tolkien's books it is mentioned that in elven culture long healthy hair is a sign of beauty and strength in both male and female elves and taking care of their long hair is very important to them.

@cosmicriptid

Жыл бұрын

I have decided it was a style trend. Yeah let's do short hair for a few centuries

@jolu1621

Жыл бұрын

@@cosmicriptid would like to see elves with mullets

@ollikoskiniemi6221

Жыл бұрын

@@cosmicriptid don't think trends last centuries without becoming traditions...

@baron6148

Жыл бұрын

@@ollikoskiniemi6221 for humans, for elves it's just a year

@undermoonlight4849

Жыл бұрын

You said it yourself. Long flowing healthy hair was a symbol of beauty. It makes sense these elves have short hair since they are far from beautiful.

Thank you Peter Jackson for a masterpiece that can’t be replicated even with billions of money. ❤

@LudvigW

9 ай бұрын

🙏♥️

@blazednlovinit

7 ай бұрын

They're like the 3 Silmarils, they can only be crafted once for it took a part of it's maker to create.

@user-hr9hg2eh5c

5 ай бұрын

Yea. Money cannot buy taste.

@brazilpaes

4 ай бұрын

Wokes spend billions with marihuana, bro.

Jackson's elves were ethereal and almost otherworldly. Rings of Power elves look like dorks at a Ren Faire.

The blueprint of the male elves having long hair is gone in the show baffled me so much.. now they look like actors with pointy ears and somehow still looks like they wear wigs

@KendraMorgan-ob2fr

6 күн бұрын

In the books. Any elf mentioned. They are described as having long hair

@syazwan1765

5 күн бұрын

@@KendraMorgan-ob2fr my point exactly

LOTR elfs were majestic. The way they talked, spoke and moved matched the description in the book. LOTR is a masterpiece

@LudvigW

8 ай бұрын

It sure is

@DavidTMSN

2 ай бұрын

The Fellowship of the Ring is a masterpiece. I wouldn't put The Two Towers or The Return of the King in that same class.

Arwen summoning the water spirit still gives me chills. That's a true elf with power.

@LudvigW

7 ай бұрын

One of the best scenes

@Rugras.

4 ай бұрын

Gandalf was the one that made the water look like horses though.@@Brunel1859

@tonimaestre96

4 ай бұрын

Nostalgia boomer

@eagle_and_the_dragon

4 ай бұрын

​@@Brunel1859 Book is better for world building, naturally, but I suspect Jackson wanted Arwen to have more of a presence so the marriage scene would have more context for the casual audience.

@mistermysteryman107

3 ай бұрын

She never did that. Her daddy did.

Amazon version: there you go, we will use those strange ears, and that's it, elves, everyone.

Peter Jackson's Elves were mystical and alien creatures... They invoked fear (especially Galadriel) and you felt like they could capriciously kill you at a moment's notice.

In Rings of Power the elves had none of the grace or poise that Jackson's films or Tolkien's books portrayed them with. Galadriel was already 5,000 years old in Rings of Power and they have her acting like a ridiculous angsty teenager. Elves were always ethereal and literally otherworldly. In Rings of Power they're so... ordinary?

@LudvigW

8 ай бұрын

They really do.. I dont understand why they made them like this.

@protectoroflight5895

3 ай бұрын

@@LudvigW Повесточка глобалистская, чего тут думать-то()

@Talhn

3 ай бұрын

It doesn't help that none of the men had long hair in the Amazon version. I think that is a big part of why the elves in Rings of Power do not look ethereal at all.

I love Cate’s Galadriel where she speaks with this slow, deep, authoritative voice yet gentle at the same time. Makes you want to listen and doesn’t sound like someone is nagging you.

@bowowoy803

Жыл бұрын

Gentle, but fckin intimidating🤣

@RKsolid5586

Жыл бұрын

That's kind of how I envisioned Melian speaking to her (and Elwe/Thingol as well) during her time in Doriath. Being a Maia that stayed behind in Middle Earth, she assumed a guardian role and nurtured the elves under her protection. However, she was also the queen and had to maintain a regal demeanor to inspire her kingdom.

@ryuk5673

Жыл бұрын

@@splitdimension8414yea also I feel like the Amazon actress has absolutely 0 range. She has about 1 or 2 different facial expressions the entire season. It’s really a shame that such amateur filmmakers were hired for this. Really shows a lack of awareness.

@rai4119

Жыл бұрын

@@bowowoy803 perfect description. because it also sounds like she *cares,* you know? Don't know how she's able to fit so many things into her cadence

@MensHominis

Жыл бұрын

Give her a buncha thousand years. I don’t say that I necessarily like where they’re going with her character in RoP, but as much as you would have loved the fan service, it would be ridiculous if she were the same person here and there. It would be bad writing. Elves are slow burners, but not static.

its as if Amazon did its best to make Galadriel as insufferable as possible and they succeeded. That snarl and hisses between her teeth and tongue when she speaks. its amazing.

Rings of Power seems like a 13yo girl on Wattpad's fanfic version of the characters written in the early 2010s

If you've got the stomach to watch RoP, I'm sure most of you probably forgot that Galadriel is supposed to be an elf, but instead you feel like watching a self-centered insufferable human female.

@magicstorm1

Жыл бұрын

Id like to think that ROP Galadriel in the 2nd age is still somewhat young in Elf age,like a young rebellious adolescent. By the Third age of their cycle they became more mature in looks and experience. Much easier to stomach the differences in the attitude department.

@ghyslainabel

Жыл бұрын

@@magicstorm1 I saw that point a lot. It seems to make sense, but only until one remembers the age of everyone in the story. Galadriel: born in Valinor, way before the First Age. She was a grown adult when the Noldor elves went to Middle-Earth. - Celebrimbor: born in Middle-Earth, during the First Age. - Gil-Galad: born in Middle-Earth, during the First Age. - Elrond: born in Middle-Earth, near the end of First Age. Galadriel is the oldest by far, yet she is the only one rash young rebellious elf. Unless Amazon wants to imply that females mature a lot slower than males, that argument (she was young!) does not hold.

@ezrealxshsh5460

Жыл бұрын

why is the human female part so necessary here, just say woman lol.

@mattteomatei3610

Жыл бұрын

She has flaws. They wrote women like this everywhere today. She was no worse than any female protagonist in Hollywood. Yes, they are all bad

@kramhorse

Жыл бұрын

@@Nopeasaurus She's actually thousands of years old at that point

The difference between ROP and LOTR is that Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh were actually LOTR super fans. They spent 9 years writing and in preproduction for LOTR, before they ever even had a studio funding them. It was a passion project, where they were extremely aware of how globally loved Tolkiens work was and they wanted to do the screen adaptation the most accurate to Tolkien’s work as they could. From sets, to costumes, Casting, writing, etc everything was done to try and bring Tolkien’s world to life. ROP was produced by a mega corporation that mass creates material goods for profit. The showrunners have probably never read Tolkien and like so many other IP’s they created a show that was centered around western identity politics and associated it with Tolkiens work hoping the built in fanbase for the IP would blindly consume it. ROP is pretty much like if Morgoth decided to rewrite Tolkiens work.

@LudvigW

8 ай бұрын

Well said!

@ew4645

5 ай бұрын

There and back again, a Dark Lord's tale - Morgoth

@Sandlund93

5 ай бұрын

They don't even know who Morgoth is.

@visnjamilicevic6133

5 ай бұрын

You wrote exactly what I was thinking. I read the book "Peter Jackson: The Making of Middle Earth" and have watched numerous videous on how they made the movies. During the making of the movies everyone was invoved in the process, even the actors, they rewrote the script every single day to make it closer to Tolkien's vision of Middle Earth. I have a huge amount of respect for PJ and his entire team, THEY BOW TO NO ONE! 🙂

@suzybearheart530

4 ай бұрын

Amazon hoped RoP would be the one series to rule them all.

I love how Jackson's elves are awe inspiring, regal and all around magnificent while the ROP ones are gawky, plain, dirty looking and disproportionate.

If you pay attention you’ll notice that LotR elves are _very_ minimal in their facial expressions. They barely even blink. It gives the impression they’ve been carved from marble, and it’s one reason why they feel ageless and inhuman. The Rings of Powers elves on the other hand behave and emote nearly identically to a normal person. Their biggest indicator is the pointy ears.

@CeCe1066

Жыл бұрын

Now that u mention it, they really don’t have any dramatic facial expressions. But they’re still able to convey strong emotions that the audience can easily pick up on. That’s true acting right there

@finrodfelagundmellonnin

Жыл бұрын

Thats because Tolkien's elves are meant to be like this. Stoic, reserved and not throwing tantrums at every minute inconvenience.

@jaytwokay3265

Жыл бұрын

That’s why the Amazon elves hair is short. The only way to tell is their ears. But PJs elves are identifiable by mannerisms and more than just appearance.

@Lappmogel

Жыл бұрын

Yeah jackson made a god call. Imagine a human that has lived thousands of years, i think they would be pretty stoic, not phased by little things and not very emotional.

@YurimoHikashi

Жыл бұрын

Their ONLY indicator is the ears in the Amazon version tbh

Noticing a lot from this comparison. The elves in Peter Jackson don't talk much and when they do it's really straight to the point. Most of their speech is narration over a scene. They move methodically and keep an auraof mystery. They feel incredibly deliberate in general. In the Amazon version, the elves feel clumsy children bichering with each other.

@purrfekt

Жыл бұрын

Clumsy *human* children bickering with each other.

@boyethewise1728

Жыл бұрын

more like Twitter freaks in cheap cosplay

@jout738

11 ай бұрын

It seems, like Amazon have not even watched the three orginal Lotr films, when they failed so bad in potraying Elronds charchter. Elrond is strong elf swordsman fighter and not some clumsy beta male nice guy which girl with stupid personality needs to always say how things should be done.

@jout738

11 ай бұрын

Their making mockery of Elrond not knowing how Elrond actually is as person, when he is not any weak beta male nice guy.

@ryancruz1876

11 ай бұрын

The Quenya word for the elves is “Quendi” which literally means “speakers”. The whole point of the elves is that they like talking. Making elves silent completely misses the whole point of Tolkien’s legendarium.

It's the hairs...the long hairs that nails it.

Long beautiful hair is what elves are known for

Liv Tyler as Arwen is one of most perfect casting decisions in all of cinema, imo. I think even Prof. Tolkien, were he to appear out of the Halls of Mandos, would think "yea, that's an Elven Princess; she is Lúthien born again".

@mereanawi6194

Жыл бұрын

Thankfully it wasn't Uma Thurman (who was desired but unavailable). She's great but I can't imagine anyone else playing Arwen.

@somni2246

Жыл бұрын

@@mereanawi6194 oh, that's right! I totally forgot that Uma was considered first for the role. But yea, as beautiful as I do think Thurman is (she's also a fantastic actress), I always imagined Tolkien's Elves as having very soft and delicate features, and Liv Tyler fits that description perfectly; and also that angelic voice of her's which complements the Quenya and Sindarin languages beautifully. I actually think Uma would have been perfect as Eowyn (but, of course, I'm already attached to Mirando Otto in that role)

@TutanchAnup

Жыл бұрын

Funny thing is, despite her wanting to play Arwen, she didn't have much of a chance of actually being casted, because she fears horses. But to counter this, she learned the elven language, which almost noone achieved before, thus persuading them to cast her anyway.

@Tawadeb

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@surgiosurge

Жыл бұрын

He'd simp for Liv too, lol

Elrond not being allowed into the "Elf Lords only" meeting was so mind-numbingly stupid. Elrond is as royal as you can get. He is descended from Finwe, Elwe, Malach (Hador), and a freaking Maia. Not to mention his father is basically Elf Jesus.

@LudvigW

9 ай бұрын

I know right

@someonewhospams0w0inchat16

7 ай бұрын

The directors probably didnt even know that 😂😂😂

@misterp4865

7 ай бұрын

I totally agree with this. One argument for this is that at that time he didn't actually rule over any land, therefore wasn't an elf lord. But that's just stupid. He would be the next high king of the Noldor.

@austinkersey2445

7 ай бұрын

​@@misterp4865 Exactly! Elrond was of a more legendary line than Gil-Galad, Círdan (though that's because he is one of the oldest elves ever), or even Thranduil. Galadriel's is debatably up there, but Elrond is of an absolutely insane bloodline. Plus, he is one of the most powerful Elves Middle Earth ever produced and one of the wisest. He, more than anyone, would be welcomed into just about any meeting for any race. What . . . the . . . fuck Amazon?

@kingkoua1

5 ай бұрын

@@Brunel1859he also had the best claim to be the high king of the noldor after the 2nd age but never took up the throne. I thought he was very interested in politics Amazon? 😂

Peter Jackson actually tried to characterize the elves and make them believable as another species. Amazon just went "huh huh, just give them pointy ears"

I genuinely have to ask why they portray the elves like this. If it weren’t for the ears, you’d easily confuse them as humans.

Amazon thinks that the elves are humans with funny ears.

The best part of the books was when the elves discovered the electric shaver and could buzz cut each others hair. Such a pivotal moment in the lotr history.

@parallelpinkparakeet

9 ай бұрын

I nearly spit out my drink when I read your comment. I just pictured them running up to each other and giving surprise reverse mohawks. Thanks 🤣

@thisnthat7760

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@towelgirl21

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, the black elf guy got in on that. His hair isn't just cut short.

@geekqueen511

7 ай бұрын

Nah they used the straight razor, that's been around for thousands of years 😂

@pepsipwns666

7 ай бұрын

Yeah the straight razor well known for giving buzz cuts@@geekqueen511

In LOTR they felt like a totally different race then man. They were other worldly, dignified, and were very distinctive. (if you saw an elf on the screen, you could be sure it was an elf, you couldn't mistake it for men) In ROP they feel, look like men.

lol cate blanchette is actually so badass. and she basically just floats through existence

Ring of Power has truly made me realise what an absolute masterpiece the original Lord of the Rings trilogy is.

@Muz__27

Жыл бұрын

It's the only actual positive that came from RoP. We all appreciate Jackson's trilogy even more. ;)

@puuhamato6294

Жыл бұрын

You should know this without watching Rings of Power

@valuggel8972

Жыл бұрын

@@puuhamato6294 ...but serious kick in the nuts somehow makes it more poignant😋

@zarrowthehorse

Жыл бұрын

But it's not even that bad. The original is the best but the TV series isn't bad. It's okay to like one without disliking the other

@Muz__27

Жыл бұрын

@@zarrowthehorse Glad you liked it. I really wanted to as well but I very much did not.

PJ elves look like Tolkien elves while Amazon elves look like Santa's helpers. Hugo's Elrond was a freaking badass and Cate's Galadriel was otherworldly. That's what you get when you blend the right acting with the right direction.

@Xerxes2005

Жыл бұрын

What Tolkien elves look like, with Tolkien words?

@justanotherfan1

Жыл бұрын

@@Xerxes2005 well, they certainly don't look like amazon elves with amazon cheap props :)

@toufovou

Жыл бұрын

Santa's helpers 🤣🤣🤣 So true!

@paulosergio7532

Жыл бұрын

@@Xerxes2005 Well, basically Peter's elves are pretty close to what Tolkien wrote. They are a ageless wise ethereal people, and their long hair is suppose to show their eternity. They don't look old people, and they don't have old age white hair. They are described to be red haired, blond, brown and black hair depending of their family origin.

@Xerxes2005

Жыл бұрын

@@paulosergio7532 How does having long hair show their immortality? The way Tolkien shows that is usually by saying that they look young, but that their eyes betray their age. And nowhere are Elves portrayed as "ethereal". Tolkien Elves are very emotional, far from the aloof and almost emotionless Vulcans shown in Jackson's movies. They laugh, they get angry, they cry, they feast, they dance, they sing, they joke and tease, they drink wine and get drunk. They also can be haughty, prideful and prejudiced. Like Sam says, some are as merry as children and others are severe as great lords. I would even say Jackson did a rather poor job at depicting the Elves.

I'll say what we're all thinking, fuck amazon, they will never come close to Peter Jackson's masterpiece.

Jackson's Galadriel played by Cate Blanchett has that majestic presence and sheer elegance that ROP version can't even compare. I don't know how Jackson did it but I believe many fans believe he did everything right in the Triolgy such that there will never be another one like it, ever.

@queenberuthiel5469

2 ай бұрын

ROP can literally rename their 'Galadriel' and everyone would be like: "okay." 😂 She's nothing like Tolkien's Galadriel.

@Olivia-W

26 күн бұрын

Clearly Galadriel just stuck around in the world and is now playing Cate Blanchett XD. Seriously, Amazon made some of the crappiest elves ever... I can't not laugh at Eldrondo. He looks ridiculous. And granpda Celebrimbor (who's canonically _younger_ than Galadriel!) is equally ridiculous. I can't take them seriously.

If only the Tolkien estate gave Peter Jackson the respect he deserves for how he brought Tolkien’s world to life instead of being treated like a leper. Seriously no one has done more for the Tolkien estate than Peter Jackson in the last 60+ years and they act like he shat on his grave. That’s how you get the Rings of Power that was pretty much mandated to be far removed from Jackson’s films.

@yomamma.ismydaddy216

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the Tolkien estate is not at all what it should be, Tolkien would be deeply saddened to see its current state

@warriorsorb1111

Жыл бұрын

I will say that it was my grandmother who introduced me to The Lord of The Rings through Peter Jackson's films when I was a kid. I wouldn't have known of the books if it weren't for her. I mean, if I were to meet anyone in the Tolkien estate, I'd probably explain that among other things. I mean, I discovered Tolkien through the films and I'm a huge fan. Tolkien's the only author that's ever came close to being my inspiration for taking up writing

@greasybumpkin1661

Жыл бұрын

Not a 1:1 comparison but makes me think of how SW fans treated Lucas for the prequels, so he sold up and Disney made the sequels. Suddenly everyone begging for Lucas again lol.

@Nopeasaurus

Жыл бұрын

This is why intellectual property shouldn't be passed down to descendants, but rather to everyone, that way we would have several iterations of Tolkien's works, instead of big soulless corporations like Amazon, HBO, and Netflix being the only ones able to afford and vie for the rights.

@ischeele7203

Жыл бұрын

Tolkien foretold the decline of his own estate through the tale of Numenor

I like how in the movies, the male elves physically look so serious and strict all the time while in the rop, they kinda just look like twinks

@AdamAus85

Жыл бұрын

Lol, brutal

@SiBebok

Жыл бұрын

They said it was 3000 years before. So maybe there wasn't internet back in rop

@thanhavictus

Жыл бұрын

😳

@an6153

Жыл бұрын

Well in the books they don't always look serious and strict.

@dante_felix

Жыл бұрын

thank you for spitting FACTS

Peter Jackson's Elf; Looks ethereal...even Agent Smith looks good and not evil. Amazon; looks like various male elves in ntr doujin.

@budakbaongsiah

4 ай бұрын

holy shit that's a massive burn 😂

OMG , I need to re-watch LOTR again to wash my eyes . Although I had already watched for too many times , but I still enjoy it Every . Single . Time ❤

In the Jackson Trilogy / Tolkien books elves are ageless creatures of ethereal beauty and grace. It is so fitting for them to speak in that flowing, mysterious voice of a race that carries so much wisdom and knowledge about the workings of the world. In Amazon series elves are treated as some eccentric human nobility, but no more than that. They're practically indistinguishable from human characters in anything but pointed ears. I do not understand why didn't they give them that elegant long hair - it would've made them so much more elf-like.

@ethanglasgow7612

Жыл бұрын

I think this also makes the entire RoP show much less “epic” and fantastical than Jackson’s trilogy. The “races” of the Lotr trilogy are supposed to be different mythical creatures than humans, and having them act so similar to humans completely downplays all of the conflicts that separated the races originally. Why would there be Grimli complaining about “losing to an elf” if they were all basically humans? Why would each of the races hesitate to work together if they are all the same? They all have different goals, wants, and cultures- so that’s also why it’s so great when they finally come together against a common foe. There’s so many things wrong with RoP that you could probably write an essay about it

@cool06alt

Жыл бұрын

@@ethanglasgow7612 Yeah, some elves are described to be closer to extra-dimensional, if not multidimensional creature that are master of both spiritual and material realm. One could speculate that their magic is infact, some sort of advanced quantum physics manipulation. "And here in Rivendell there live still some of his chief foes: the Elven-wise, lords of the Eldar from beyond the furthest seas. They do not fear the Ringwraiths, for those who have dwelt in the Blessed Realm live at once in both worlds, and against both the Seen and the Unseen they have great power."

@arisenomega

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, ignoring all the flaws in the writing, pacing, lore, etc, I was most disappointed with what they did to the elves. Arondir (?) was the only one who had a handsome face - now if they gave him longer hair and some nice armor, he would make a great elf! All the others were so damn... average looking, with weird modern short hair cuts. Don't even get me started on how Galadriel behaved nothing like the age-old elf she's supposed to be. Yikes. We (I) don't want to see "relatable" elves, I want to see them as the immortal, wise, powerful beings they are.

@isaiah_hi93

Жыл бұрын

People always use the excuse that they’re all “young” in RoP therefore hair hasn’t grown long yet, but as someone who’s grown up in a Polynesian household that’s not how long hair works…your family simply don’t cut it from infancy and it is long from childhood ie: they’d have long hair their entire lives!! Lol

@Patrick-qed

Жыл бұрын

In Tolkien's writings, the Elves are also treacherous, conniving, arrogant, and vicious. They mass-murder their own kin three times. It's tough to display "ethereal beauty and grace" when you're wading ankle-deep in the blood of your kin. I have lots of qualms and criticisms about Amazon's show, but let's not pretend that Peter Jackson is somehow true to the writings. Remember, Christopher Tolkien *hated* Peter Jackson's LotR films. Would Amazon have been more true if it had Galadriel surfing down stairs on a shield like Legolas?

Amazon elves looks like stress out alcoholic humans.

@arbiterskiss6692

Жыл бұрын

Just anyone living in Los Angeles?

@user-qy5io4ke9e

Жыл бұрын

Great!)))

@simpossibly_tiffani

Жыл бұрын

LOL!!! 😂

Cate Blanchet as Galadriel is one of the most beautfiul things i've seen

Love the 3d printed armor on those they/them elves

Even just hearing the LOTR soundtrack gives me the shivers. Jackson's work is perfect and meticulous in every detail because it was done with passion. Amazon's, on the other hand, is just to make money by exploiting a famous title. But they failed in that too

@u.s.navy_pete4111

Жыл бұрын

Howard Shore is a genius!

@Unfiltered494

Жыл бұрын

That soundtrack over the ROP elves makes them look even more ridiculous.

@ZarisWhiteFoot

Жыл бұрын

If they wanted money they shouldn't have gone woke 😂

@badpiggies988

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they had to blame racism, sexism, DA NERDZ and everything/one but themselves to explain why it failed

@badpiggies988

Жыл бұрын

@@ZarisWhiteFoot They should’ve at least done a good job of doing so, like Black Panther

The elves in Jackson’s version all have really beautiful, long hair and their faces are youthful and fair with a sort of weight within the eyes. They also move like water, with purpose and direction (and poise). The more I see the comparison, the more I appreciate Jackson’s version

@LudvigW

8 ай бұрын

We should be thankful the LOTR-trilogy was made when it was.. Before the dark times..

@gunkulator1

7 ай бұрын

ROP had the opportunity to show us two different Elf kind, Noldor and Sindar, but squandered this chance. Characters like Gil Galad and Celebrimdor should have stood out from other Elves. Instead it makes the mistake of assuming all Elves are one kind.

@user-dt1qd4ez5q

3 ай бұрын

​@@LudvigW, hah, dark times, it is truth.

Peter Jackson always made his elves feel otherworldly and magical

Legolas in LOTR was so pretty .. i never thought that someone would out pretty him until his father ( Thranduil ) came along.

The most striking thing to me when watching this comparasion is the creative choices with the lighting and color scheme. Peter Jackson's movies portray the elves with cold tones where the elves glow in a white light everytime they walk into a shot. The lack of warm colors make them feel dangerous, powerful, yet still an allay against the darkness that consumes the bakground. The palette is so distinct that you'll be able to tell Jackson's movies from Amazons even if everything was blurred out. Amazon clearly went a more mainstream and safer route, going for warmer tones and palletes. But I think they underestimated how much the color schemes aided in telling the audience in how to interpret the elves and middle earth. Excuse my ranting, I just found this really interesting while watching this.

@yagmurkara7380

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for drawing my attention to such an interesting detail. I agree

@1950622

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree, RoP's elves kingdom looks straight out of a Disney tinker bell movie

@timalgate3709

Жыл бұрын

Completely agree, thanks for articulating the difference.

@rjzavala87

Жыл бұрын

That wasnt a rant. It was a pretty good description of what visual elements differentiate the 2. Well said.

@GeraltofRivia22

Жыл бұрын

And it actually fits so well with Tolkien's lore. His elves are linked with the stars and starlight, as well as silver. Choosing cool light was the perfect choice. It's also why it's so stupid that Gil Galad in RoP is adorned in gold instead of silver.

I find it really interesting that in the Jackson movies, even the younger elves such as Tauriel or Legolas carry that very distinct "Elvish air/loftiness" (don't really know how to describe it). The problem with the ROP elves is the amazon showrunners' approach to "show things how they are in our modern times"or such rubbish. Elves are not just humans with pointy ears stuck on, period.

@Fimbrianae

Жыл бұрын

Taurial actress did an amazing job portraying a "wild" elf that still had that ethereal quality. Something like that would fit so well with the fighter character they wanted for young galadriel. Somehow it's just not even close.

@hoggsrod7864

Жыл бұрын

Heck, I think it was mentioned in The Hobbit production that Tauriel was only about 500 years old, even far younger than Legolas. She was young and rebellious, defied her king's order, yet still her topmost quality was her sense of compassion and love, something the already 5000 years old ROP galadriel severely lacks. I had my frowns with the insertion of Tauriel in The Hobbit film, but damn, at least I can accept and actually root for her given her qualities.

@wolffweber7019

Жыл бұрын

Funny enough, I cannot find any evidence of pointed ears in Tolkien’s books

@Garthant

Жыл бұрын

@@wolffweber7019 Yeah, the books never mention pointy ears, but in one of his letters he mentions that hobbit ears are "only slightly pointed and elvish". On the other hand, Turin is taken to be an elf-lord in the Silmarillion, which probably wouldn't happen if human ears were different. Ultimately, whichever way you lean I don't think it's a hill to die on.

@patrykskuba893

Жыл бұрын

Legolas and who?

J.R.R Tolkien spoke of the elves as "Long golden hair creatures" in amazon we got elves in all colours and shapes lmao.

"Look how they massacred my boy" - Vito Corleone

"Look how they massacred my boy" J.R.R. Tolkien

@frost3193

Жыл бұрын

Probably Tolkiens laughing like hell in the hands of God

@patriciaotoole6508

Жыл бұрын

Not sure many people will get that, but I do.....

@Dana-jb6ej

Жыл бұрын

Now he's a they....

@MrBruh-yb9qi

Жыл бұрын

My Tolkien Tom

@nicbahtin4774

Жыл бұрын

Look how they massacred the first born

It strikes me as strange that Galadriel is Elronds mother-in-law and one of the oldest people in Middle Earth yet they portray her as a moody teenager. Devoid of wisdom or gravitas. Why would they do that?

@natchii1542

Жыл бұрын

So teenagers can relate?

@bardolomaios2g301

Жыл бұрын

@@natchii1542 More like project. Portraying weak simulacra as a basis for creating characters that serve no other purpose than milking money from the mass, while still delivering trash, is shameful business practice. Then again, as I've noticed while looking through these threads, there will always be people (i dont mean you, of course) that defend trash productions.

@ShellBella1012

Жыл бұрын

Bad writing

@mastery7901

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, i hate how people were defensive on such a moody portrayal saying "she was young" in Rop. Mate she's already a 1000 years old at that point lol.

@gabrielgonach6330

Жыл бұрын

@@mastery7901 she was already much more older than that. Kind of 20 thousands of year by that time

Amazon's elves don't look like elves. They look like average humans.

So, they got beter looking as they got older. Damn, beauty companies sure went bankrupt in Elven society!