Welcome to Goobertown, my name is Brent :-)
Come join me as I paint minis for RPGs, Board Games, Tabletop Wargames, and beyond! I'm always trying new things and learning about fun corners of this hobby. In addition to being an amateur mini painter, I'm also a professional chemist, and I like to explore the materials that we use. :-)
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Two thirds of the way through the video, but here's my anecdote as a game designer and as a former competitive tourney player for a different Wargame called Warmachine & Hordes. - In order to play a wargame with some level of comfort, as you noted, you need to have contextual knowledge of stuff in the enemy's army. The more options an army has, the more complex rules you need to learn, and it results in an insane learning curve before you feel like you're good enough at the game to just play it. - This tends to be helped if you have a small group of people with LIMITED MODELS (i.e. you're all getting into the game at the same time) to help you understand what their armies do, what their units do, so-on and so-forth. - 40k has so many rules that are particular across its range that, especially in 9e, you had several variations of 'Feel No Pain'. The secret to onboarding is to re-use rules and to make units unique with them by the /blend/ of the rules that you give to them. - 40k /also/ has a flowchart on Strength vs Toughness, compared to a single value beating another. I'm a massive proponent of dice pools, but it doesn't help that there's significant mental math and double-checking for a new player all over the place (especially when you're going through multiple if statements to confirm a roll.) For instance, putting it out as a code flowchart helps me understand the complexity of a given mechanic. When Attacking: > Is target in range > Can target be attacked > Roll dice equal to number of shots being fired { >> Check how many shots you can fire with how many models are in range } > Check number based on your unit card. { >> Does anything alter this? Do you have a buff? >> Does your Enemy have a debuff? >> Cover? >> Double Check. } > Consider how many attacks reach the threshold, and then roll damage { >> Ask your opponent their Toughness >> Compare against your Strength { >>> switch (Strength) { >>>> {$_ ≥ Toughness × 2 } { Target_Number = 2 } >>>> {$_ > Toughness } { Target_Number = 3 } >>>> {$_ = Toughness } { Target_Number = 4 } >>>> {$_ < Toughness } { Target_Number = 5 } >>>> {$_ ≤ Toughness / 2 } { Target_Number = 6 } >>> } >> Roll Hits { >>> foreach ( die in Hits ) { >>>> if (1s_Rule) { die.Reroll() } >>>> if (6s_Rule) { Wounds++ } >>>> if ( die.Value ≥ Target_Number ) { Wounds++ } >>> } >> Print Wounds > Opponent now rolls armor saves against your wounds. > Opponent considers the AP value of your weapons. UNLESS they have an Invuln save > Opponent rolls their dice. > Opponent uses Feel No Pain > Opponent suffers wounds if they fail. WM/H had "roll 2d6 + your attacking stat. If you hit, roll 2d6 + the POW of your weapon. Any result exceeding the armor value of your opponent is taken as damage." Buffs and debuffs apply, sure, but the SCALE of the game is something else that's entirely separate. When an action is repeated 5+ times it becomes repetitive. When it's repeated 30+ times (god forbid we talk about Orks) it's insane. 40k lives on that massive scale, but it just creates so much of a contextual understanding ROADBLOCK to get into that, despite my trying to get into 40k for over four years now, I just haven't had fun with it. But, it's what my friends play. So I try. And I try, and I try.
I can confidently say we are total opposites. Im someone who loves miniature war games but hates building and painting the models. Hence why I love X-Wing and Armada. To each their own. I do wish there were more miniature games that came prepainted though.
X-wing is good stuff! Never played armada
As someone who got back into the mini hobby around 2019 after a hiatus from the late 90s/early 00s of warhammer fantasy, I realized that i couldn't even collect what an army *should* be, and i've felt like a perpetual noob, and this was even after giving malifaux a shot every other week for a year. I feel there's absolutely been a "complexity creep" in mini gaming, and I imagine it's a tough element to balance, as if you make things *too simple*, the hardcore crowd will get bored and disengage, but unless you're the kinda gamer that likes to read about all the faction rules and tricks your opponent's armies/crews/kill teams, you're going to get immediately hard countered, and like, that's fine from time to time, but eventually you just sorta get discouraged as you almost feel like you're wasting your and their time since you're not actively studying and practicing every week. Like, I'll just use my minis for rpgs, but It's a bummer that there's not a good "medium complexity" system for us weirdos who play some crunchy systems of videogames or rpgs, but a more stable ruleset. I miss the era where a codex lasted 5+ years as you could build around that and create a cool custom army, instead of having to reimagine it every 3 years.
I hear ya!!
The "tri" of the triamide is important because it produces cross-linking. With just a diamide you would just get long chain polymers.
hi there! thanks so much for this video. it’s super helpful! in your opinion, for adhering the magnets to the bases, is the green stuff/milliput better or is the apoxy mixture better?
Both are good! I'm more in the habbit of using epoxy, but the putties (which are also epoxies!) Act as spacers too, which is nice:-)
I appreciate the updates from GW but how all the rules are scattered everywhere it’s near impossible to know what’s current. And their website is no help at all.
Screw charities. People spit on me. 🖕 people
Ten seconds in and I can smell the failure already.
Hello, Thanks for all your info and videos. a question for the chemist: VOC from resin are they heavier as air (and therefore do they sink to the bottom of an encased printer) ?
There's a decent amount of movement inside a printer housing, whatever is in there is going to be well-mixed
That is why you play 2nd edition The MOST fun edition
Might have to cobble together rules for most of the units my friends and I own, but that's ok! :-)
They have a good calculator out there to bring modern units into 2nd ed ruleset
Great video! surprising to learn that the breaking of the C-C covalent bonds with dimethyl formamide isn't remarkably exothermic.
The DMF is only acting as a solvent to get the polymer chains to be a bit mobile- no c-c covalent bonds are broken, even though the consumer product is called a "debonder" :-)
@@GoobertownHobbies What is the mechanism by which it de-bonds? is it breaking H-bonds between the polymers?
@@surgerator yep, solvents have intermolecular attractions to the polymers, and help displace those attractions between neighboring chains. A combination of h-bonds, other polar attractions, and van Der waals forces
@@GoobertownHobbies many thanks.
i stumbled across this video at the right time i just bought the same speed painter set and have pre ordered the scorcerer kings vs city states starter set im so excited to try out my new paints with my new models
Oooh have fun!!! :-)
Didn't the hobby outprice most of the people into it about 2 decades ago.
I think your conclusion that you are a casual gamer is accurate why you don't like 40k. However you are not casual due to the amount of games you play, it's the fact you don't think about the game before you play. You simply cannot play 40k without engaging with listbuilding aspect, i spend almost as much time making lists as as I paint the models. You can't simply choose random models you like the look at then put them on the table and read the rules the last minute. That is not going to be engaging and fun to play for both you and your opponent. 40k is very similiar to Magic the Gathering (constructed format) as in your must interact with the rules before the game and create a list/deck that has a strategy , roles intended an matches the faction you chose. If you don't want stay behind cover, you can't choose the most glasshammer faction in the game (drukhari) and expect to be able to play that way. There are factions that could stand in the open and play that way, imperial knights for example. 10th ed game boards would also help you, they are covered with terrain so it's hard to not to stand in cover.
Love the vid, how or where can I purchase that goblin mini? My son absolutely loved it and I’d like to paint one for him. Thank you.
The goblin is from the "gloomspite gitz" faction of warhammer age of sigmar. The exact model is oop these days, it was a shaman from the old "battle for skull pass" starter box... you can probably find one used on ebay, or get some similar silly modern gloomspite gitz minis :-)
@@GoobertownHobbies Sounds great, thank you for taking the time to respond, and the great advice.
That wasn't that much griping. Do you ever hear that you look like Brent Spiner?
This video makes me want to start my own plastic injection molding business. Though it seems really hard to find how to start for a beginner.
There's lots of investment and skill involved, but it sure does look fun! :-)
As someone trying to get into the game, and who feels intimidated by trying to figure it out, I appreciate this video. Your honesty sets a reasonable expectation for me. I will be playing small scale on a starter set with others who don't what they are doing which will provide a safe space to learn, but this video sets the tone for what could come next if I decide to get more involved in the future. Informative and Entertaining! Thank you!
Good luck, I hope you and your friends have fun with it!! :-)
27 mins and your still draining lives, most annoying video ever
With the dominion box I sacrificed the killaboss and the big head on the mounted boss to make yndrasta holding a severed head. Her speak is in the back of the killboss as he lies at her feet dismembered. Used a horse tail from Perry miniatures to give that ogre head a literal pony tail above her hand. The "Holding a head" trope is so much fun to model imo. I was defintely bummed to find the minis so mono-pose, and the way the heads are molded on some of them makes them very difficult to change out, but in miliput and greenstuff I trust.
Nice! Yup you gotta be creative and willing to cut stuff apart these days... oh well! I'm sure you're getting some sweet unique models at the end of the day :-)
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This is absolutely stunning. I wish there was a full season of this ❤
Hey thanks! I hope we get a chance to do more like this :-)
The overall basics more or less stay the same. The rules of the armies and units seem to change a lot every edition. We all have to start over when a new edition comes, but if you've got the basics down, it's just a matter of practicing until you understand the changes. Second, I understand you want the field to look bad ass and cinematic, but warhammer isn't the same as D&D. In order for warhammer to be in a competitive space we need rules to define cover etc. I know and I understand shoving a unit behind a rock isn't cool, but if you put them out in the open they're gonna get shot. So in order to win, play the game well, play some games, begin simple, and build up from there. Start with the basics and you'll want to go the extra mile eventually if you're comfortable. You can do it! If you want a cinematic or role play experience, I'd advise picking up one of the boxed sets and play it with friends as that is usually a coop game.
I appreciate this, thank you! After thinking about it some more, I'm realizing that I miss the "pie plate" explosions of 7th and prior, at least those got people to spread their forces out behind hedges and stuff, which looked cooler :-)
Great video. The painting on the chaos warriors is fantastic ❤
What are you using for your mini holder? Did you add magnets?
Yup! Wooden dowels 3 inch long 1.25 inch diameter with a magnet glued into a hole on the top :-)
Is epoxy just 1 large chain of those things when it hardens? Or are they still separate strings all bunched up?
Polymers all end up as tons of different chains all tangled up-some chains may be cross-linked, but many won't be.
41:53 my man just described the evolution of D&D and how that just turned most of the RPG community into boardgamers who don't accept their nature, lol.
real cat？？！？
Ok ok, I will apply vanish… from next time
Do what I do; play an older edition of 40K. I myself play 3rd edition with friends because none of us like current 40K and I personally haven't played the newer editions since 6th edition. We don't mind new bases sizes or models being used, we just want a set of rules free of all the excess padding that tactical cards, stratagems and hero abilities brought to the later games. Stacking buff after buff after nerf for each dice roll just became exhausting. EDIT: Oh just for context, I stopped playing 40K sixth edition for Warhammer Fantasy 7/8th edition because it was much more simple to play.
Playing an old edition is good advice! Just gotta decide on a favorite one :-)
@@GoobertownHobbies Rogue Trader and 2nd edition were two separate animals from what I understand, with 2nd being a much more complex 3rd edition. 3rd-5th are relatively the same game; while I have a fondness for 3rd (which was my first edition), I've been told the 4th edition rulebook with 3rd edition codexes is the best fit. Then 6-7th added in stratagems and tactical cards and were more or less errata'd rules. these were followed by 8-9th changing a lot of the foundational work the previous editions had. It's likely you'll pick the one that you started with and enjoyed the most, mostly from Nostalgia but I found at least that 3rd was just a simpler way to play; it also had army lists in the rulebook for most of the factions at the time.
inspirational tactical rock saved the day
You're a description of what it was like to stare at your dice box mutter to yourself and flip through manuals, captured exactly what it was like for a person who played Warhammer only once.
the models look majestic, diggin the saurians!
great info and answered a lot of questions i had as a beginner model hobbyist. Thank you!
please stay away from politics, also you're so wrong it's insane. Racism goes ALL ways. if you think otherwise you should watch less news and be brainwashed by it. Letting a black person get a job because the other guy is white is RACISM. the ONLY way to get rid of racism is stop bringing it up. Shame.
This video is from 2020 and I stand by it 100%
Great video! I'm going through this process with the older LotR plastics, and you can so so much just by rotating a head, elbow, and wrist.
Wowza! I don't think I've ever heard your natural voice before. Cool video!
Enjoyed the insight and honesty.
Axel Foley used this method to reveal a finger print. Still a legend of the Detroit Police Department.
My last game was in 98 or thereabout, but I'm planning another game soon (2nd edition).
Nice!! I hope you have a great time :-)
I'm just getting back into WH with imperial guard (astra millitatum) & space marines, I got all the basics and about 70 ish paints(all types) HOWEVER.... I have just purchased a starter set from nostalgia 94 have you used these and are they good? I miss the old days, even bought some 90s marines, orks & jungle fighters for when they arrive lol
That sounds like a lot of fun! I've never used nostalgia 94, my first pots had the black hexagonal screw caps :-)
@GoobertownHobbies, Question. In boatbuilding epoxy is widely used, like West Systems. Epoxy started out as a very hard, glass-like glue. Wood is flexible so more flexible epoxies were developed to match epoxy and wood. Question is, has something changed in the chemistry? Were more flexible molecules used or is non reactive filler material used?
Unsure! Either of those options could be viable. If you find the sds sheet, some companies are forthcoming with exact compounds and percentages, and that can help scratch the curiosity itch
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Dude, forget the brushes and microscope the cat.
Cat is very large
Fixing the models in blender to take care of all the cliping must be a pain.
This dude is making models of the stuff used to make models.
Cool, does that chain reaction happen with polyester resin where there is only a small amount of activator?
I loved when he said "It's Johann time!" and johanned all over the place. Jokes aside, having both the turret and the occupants being modular and swappable is nice. There could be a game where the tank gets destroyed and you can just take out the Dwarf and have him footslog for the rest of the battle :D
Great video, Brent. I will pay more attention to how accurately I mix my epoxies. I sometimes don't get a hard result like I like to see. I will weigh my halves now to make a better bond.
Oh I LIKE this. It looks like my afternoon is booked.
YOUR THE REASON FOR PRACTICAL NAMES?!! i noticed that on the new speed paints as well and its such a great thing, i got the "game master" starter set because it was a great deal, but the 12 ml bottles only go so far and all of the names are unique even though the paints are identical to the standard range, id much rather a consistent naming in fine print, then they can wild otherwise with the craziest names possible
Yup! I complained enough about names that they fixed them a bit! :-) hehehehe