I think it's a really cool idea to put environmental responsibility at the core of a game company's identity. Enviro Games seems to be off to a good start! enviro-games.com/ After they saw my first instagram post, they made a discount code for us... apparently "Goob1" is good for 5% off?

@Azrael56

3 ай бұрын

Warbound (Belgian Company) has this environmental concern at the core of their game.

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

@@Azrael56 I'll take a look, thanks for the suggestion!

@AMM2217

3 ай бұрын

Just ordered. I can handle trading the carbon footprint of airmail for less plastic in the world. :)

I wish more companies would pack stuff in paper and cardboard. I can just throw that into my compost pile, and never have to worry about the "forever" plastic.

Thank you so much for this video, Brent! We really love what you did with the minis; the contrast between the orange of the Knomes and the green of the dwarves looks ace. We hope you can find somebody to give the game a whirl with soon. Feedback is such an important means to help us improve. It's great to see so many comments (thank you, all!) and we will be reading them with interest! We have some new video content coming soon to show off the game system for those who are interested. If anybody has any questions, please get in touch! -The Enviro Games Team.

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Right on! I'm glad you're out there giving this a go :-)

Last couple of months, I've been focussing on buying my 'new' models second-hand. There's no reason to buy factory-new minis when there's tons of the same kit still on-sprue available second hand, often for cheaper!

@foldionepapyrus3441

3 ай бұрын

Not to mention the older incarnations of the same concept can be interestingly different and often very complementary or just better for your tastes compared to the more modern ones. And if you go back to a white metal version it is in many ways easier to kitbash whitemetal - you often won't have to sculpt much if anything as you can carefully cut, file and then bend to repose the mini a pretty large amount without damage.

@trynda1701

3 ай бұрын

Been going down the second hand route myself recently, both prepaints that interest me, and some sprues or old game miniatures like original Heroquest and similar games.

@mumakin1

3 ай бұрын

Do you get second hand minis from eBay?

@trynda1701

3 ай бұрын

@@mumakin1 Yes. Just keep to a sensible budget.

@Pyre001

3 ай бұрын

@@mumakin1 No, a similar website local to my country. There's also special second-hand retailers, but those are often more expensive because they specialize in retro minis, but you can sometimes get good prices on non-retro stuff.

Those are some very nicely painted, cool minis. I like how the video gives the impression of Brent being entirely surrounded by cats.

I have great luck with using 'gun cleaning' cotton swabs - they are wound tighter and leave no lint. I think this companies idea of recycling the sprues before sending the miniatures is brilliant. I hope they can scale that with deserved success.

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

ohh, thanks for the tip! 🙂

It should have been Knomes and Twarves IMHO.

@burfscape1

3 ай бұрын

Lol!

So happy to see you covering this Brent and I love your Knomes and Dwarves. Thanks for spreading the word about cool stuff that tries to do right!

Would be interesting to see data how these products go with eco-friendlyness when compared to home-printing the same minis.

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

agreed! I suspect the mailman makes fewer trips to your house with 3d printing, but most people end up throwing away a small pile of resin 3d printing supports... I'm not sure what the supply chain looks like for resin manufacture vs. the various thermoplastics... it's definitely an interesting question!

@apinakapinastorba

3 ай бұрын

@@GoobertownHobbies The main ”competitor” of Enviro Games on the eco aspect is of course the more traditional manufacuring companies. In mass production there’s also benefits, I guess energy used for one kit is quite small when the molding machines spend only seconds on one item. Trade-offs in everything, and I think that is what makes these things especially interesting.

@janschulte8434

3 ай бұрын

@@apinakapinastorba Yes, Mass production can be very efficient. I can also very wasteful, pretty much depends on the enviromental laws of your country and how strict they are enforced. In an ideal world the big companies adopt a more enviromental sustainable way of production and come up with their own ideas to further improve.

@foldionepapyrus3441

3 ай бұрын

I'd suspect this is hands down better than local printing enviromentally, but will ineveitably lack the shear scope of mini's a 3d print can provide. The UV cure resins are energy intensive to create and then cure in comparison to most thermoplastics I'd suggest, the support/sprue materials wasted are provable a greater % of the total material consumed to make the mini. Then you add in the washing solvents that at a such small scale are probably not used that efficiently - you are going to lose more to evaporation in the downtime between batches and most folks can't keep the many stages of dirty solvent to prewash with so you just don't get as much life out of each litre). Also have to consider the enviromental impact - an individual can (but shouldn't) pump crap into the air and have unsafe work environments, the company should be held to higher standards. And finally you have the material properties and recyclablility - printing resins tend towards brittle, especially the ones that can hold comparable levels of detail so you probably end up with more breakages and waste there too. Not that I think local 3d printing is at all bad environmentally, especially if you do take pains to filter out and dispose of the waste byproducts properly. And it is the only way to get some mini concept you want made - you only need the artist to get excited about the idea you want or accept your money and you can then print that mini that wouldn't get made even with things like Kickstarter making more niche stuff at least producible.

@Torkijo

3 ай бұрын

Hope this game makes it and we see new factions. Do love your cats though.

My reuse strategy is - if I get cheap food in a plastic container, clean it out afterwards, and use it for ongoing/unfinished projects. Great for keeping all of the bits together until I do finish especially if I get distracted by the new hotness and it's six months until I get back to a project having all of the pieces in one place is great, it keeps the cats out, and reuse is always better than recycle. I also save my wooden chopsticks, wash them and they can be great for terrain, stirring paint/resin, and all sorts of other hobby uses.

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

That's the spirit!! :-)

I always worry about my footprint regarding miniature painting (considering everything uses plastic), so I do find some solace knowing that others care and do their part to help. Thanks, Brent ♥️

I just stopped by in the comments to show some personalised appreciation. This video, for some reason, gave me the same wholesome calming vibes of a "Bob Ross of Miniature painting". Which led to wanting to share. I haven't painted miniatures in decades. Since I was a teenager and painting with my older brothers. Recently I've been on stress leave from work, and during the rougher days that I can't concentrate for any decent periods of time, painting videos have been a nostalgic easy investment comfort. However yours especially, are like short form peaceful meditations, you put out such amazingly wholesome positive inclusive vibes, and the voice. Which have really helped me recently, which is an odd effect especially when commonly talking about Warhammer, and being about as far from a "calm universe" as you can get. Not to mention are making me chomp at the bit to go back to my parents to get out my old painting gear and get stuck back into it. So yeah, just stopped by to say cheers/thanks for the videos, and look forward to more.

Painting minis and petting cats. That's a worthy time spent well, I have three of these fuzzy muses annoying and meowing at me.

That looks like a good box; I'd keep that box for storage and transport.

That's very neat - I like that they recover their sprue material. I also like that the are constantly trying to reduce their environmental impact. Very nice summary, thanks!

Happy Goober Sunday All! ❤

Even before the video started, I was skeptical with the premise. By 1:40, I had to admit that their approach and dedication was quite impressive and made solid sense. From packaging and shipping, and especially recycling their sprues... excellent ideas that every company should adopt.

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

my thoughts too! they have several good ideas here that'd have an impact if some more companies followed along.

Those are some cool looking minis and I like that a company is taking steps to be more responsible, hopefully it spreads. I love nerd/geek culture as I'm sure everyone who watches your videos does. But there's one aspect that's always bothered me and that's that geek culture is VERY consumerist. There's always new toys, collectibles, books, action figures, minis, cards, etc. constantly being churned out and sold. I suspect that's part of the reason geek culture has become mainstream in the last two decades... geeks are great customers to have! I think it'd be nice if geeks would start focusing on doing more with less. In the miniature world, I thought Gaslands was a good example of this, because you can take some old Hot Wheels, glue some leftover bits and plastic scraps to them, and have a cool mini that fits in the game world. Scratch-bashing is also a really creative way to flip literal garbage into cool miniatures. Ultimately this is a bigger issue outside of geekdom, but it'd be nice to see some change.

Time to paint what you already have and break into the bin oof randomized minis again!

Thank you for the video. Your takes and angles on the hobby are always interesting and original.

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

thanks for watchin! :-)

Thanks for the video! Great of you to highlight folks taking steps to help the environment!

Thank you for bringing this company to the attention of everyone! I personally had no idea they existed and now I do. They have some wonderful minis and you painted them beautifully as always ♥

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

they're brand new, I'm glad I found them! and thanks for the kind words 🙂

The Bob Ross of hobby painting, thanks Brent!

You do deserve more minis too paint! Thanks for the content. I live watching you paint

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

hehehe, thanks! I'll get myself some nice new minis ;-)

Hullo Brent, I do enjoy your videos and your dedication to your hobby and craft too! I like that your a true leader in this art form, painting mini's is a very wide ranging hobby and having a smaller footprint is a good thing in every aspect! I like that your staying in touch with your audience as well as your competitors too!

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Hullo! thanks so much for stopping by and for the kind words :-)

I think the biggest impact the hobby has on the environment is shipping. Most of it is going by sea between large countries and distributed over existing product networks but the delivery emissions for a space marine are probably way higher than whatever they wasted in plastic wrap and sprue

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Agreed, shipping is a big part of the footprint. Local manufacturing / designing the package to be small helps a bit though! :-)

I've been excited about this since you first talked about Novus Malum on Paint Bravely! (I think my copy of the game is about 2 weeks or so out - hopefully) I think what Enviro Games are doing is great, and they are a company that I can support and feel good about it. I've also emailed a few times with one of the folks, and he has been very honest and open to ideas. One of the things I brought up was inclusivity, and he said that more than just male models is something they are aware of. Brent, your beautiful base work sold me on using the bases that are included in the game! I was going to use standard plastic bases for mine when they arrive, just to normalize them with everything else I own. Now, I really want to use those bases, so they do NOT fall in line with everything else I have. Awesome video, as always Brent! ❤

Nothing commercial nowadays doesn't have some environmental impact. However, it does look like that they have done everything they can to prioritise recycling packaging and using less damaging materials. If it is still a good game and maybe a slight premium for being environmentally aware then well done to them. Good review too.

Perfect timing on this on. Havent had any inspiration to paint lately but i guess i do now!

Im glad they are reusing the sprues, I think that is a good call. Wood/Paper Based Products like MDF are very easy to replace, people forget that most papermills have their own forestry to be self sustained. Focusing on cutting down on the bulk plastics like dice and sprues and packaging is the big step forward in sustainability.

Yo those details are intense! The knomes look so wild and feral, but the chainmail on the dwarves blew me away! Rock and Stone, brother! Great video as always, Goober!

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

thanks! pretty neat, eh? :-)

I am very happy to hear about companies being environmentally responsible. Yes, we should all be doing our part. I just find that the dialogue surrounding the subject is too often skewed towards putting all the responsibility on the consumers, while huge companies get away with producing 10 times the amount of waste and pollutants than all the households in a country combined.

Took me a while to figure out the material was SioCast, a brand name. I first tried CO , Seo, etc... (fortunately found a article comparing materials found in minis , that detailed this)

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

oh sorry, I should have spelled it out somewhere... it's a material that's been gaining popularity in smaller production runs, I think I own siocast minis from like 10 different games now

I love this video idea, Brent. It's always a joy to see you paint, and I really appreciate your socially conscious content. You're never preachy, always respectful, and I'm sure it brings a lot more gamers to the table.

This is great to see other companies prioritizing sustainability in our hobby! Every little bit helps!

Love you highlighting smaller games like this ❤

I really appreciate your presentation on this aspect of the hobby. Having just received a 12"x12"x12" box from accross the sea with a single plastic base in a single plastic bag, I can say I really appreciate that this company is trying to do better. A lot of us doing a little better each day will always have a bigger impact than a few of us trying to do it all. Thank you Brent for an amazing video.

No sprues left over is the best part. You should do a video on how to do something with leftover sprues. Like crafting terrain, melting and molding them or how to recycle them!

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

I'll figure out what to do with all those extra sprues one of these days... :-)

Never heard of this before. Thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention. Awesome work!

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

heck yeah! :-)

Great video made me very happy to see this. I hope a ranking of the most environmentally friendly paints will be covered in a future video.

This is so cool!! Yes please.

@animeator

3 ай бұрын

Amazing paintjobs too of course.

How cool. I really love those models.

Damn, just when I think I can’t appreciate Brent and this channel more, he finds a new way to top it!

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

I appreciate YOU!

Dear Brent, "Theoratically possible" is exactly the right wording. xD

I always appreciate your vids, they're just so dang wholesome!

As always : lovely video. I really like this kind of content and this company's idea! Plus you did a great paint job, I will have a look at their website

Having fun and raising consciousness. Well done!

Always new and innovative videos Brent! Love your channel :D

I like that the book is smaller. Great video. Nice models.

For re-use I recommend coffee grounds. Let me explain. I use a stove top percolator type coffee pot that takes coarse ground coffee. Once used, I spread it out in a thin layer and dry it in a dehydrator. After doing this the grounds are suitable for use as small rocks or any sort of lumpy thing that you need to model, such as railroad bed rocks, gravel, exploded bad guy body parts.

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

ahhh, but I use nescafe instant coffee ;-) good recommendation though!

I like the minis and the Enviro's policy. Thanks for sharing!

love those models and what a nice idea, it's a small step in the right direction.

“Whatever else that normal people do” 😂😂💜

Amazing video as always!

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

thanks for watchin :-)

This was great! I love when I see there's a new Goobertown vid.

I kept waiting for the “Reduce, Reuse, Recycle Yeah!” That I grew up hearing as a kid. Lol

11:37 I like to use oil washes often and do something similar. I use old microfiber clothes that where once used to clean glasses. And as an added bonus they work awesome for cleaning brushes after using oils.

I like the concept. The onus is definitely on manufacturers and producers to reduce the waste in this hobby. Hopefully we see strong demand that will push makers to think about how to reduce their waste.

Great video and I don't think anyone could have said it better. Thanks Brent!

We recently got the game aswell. It’s quite a fun game, really cool way to build units with mixed fighters. Looking forward to getting some more games in and seeing what comes next.

Your cats make the best cameos.

Good looking minis and well painted. Looking forward to seeing where they go next with the game

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

thanks! they posted a bit of concept art on their instagram, and the future cavalry units look cool!! :-)

Lovely. Short & sweet. Nice topic

I like the look of those Knomes. They are like giant Nac Mac Feegles, or more Celtic-leaning Woses. Either way, I could see a lot of use for these models. :)

Awesome video as always!

That's a good number of encounters in dnd or another ttrpg, in terms of miniatures with variety. Nice painting and thanks for sharing the work being done by this company!

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

oh yeah, there are some quality NPCs in here for sure! :-)

Knooomes!!

Thanks for checking this out! It’s a topic that interests me.

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

absolutely! :-)

It’s nice seeing the lack of sprue waste, I often cut them up and use them in bases but it hard to use it all with the volume of plastic they use.

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

agreed! I'm still saving all my plastic sprues... I'll find the perfect use for them someday.... i hope... 🙂

Good Sunday to ya Brent. Another great video to enjoy my coffee with.

That cardboard box looks nice, and is probably sturdy enough to reuse! Love it!

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

I've got my knomes and dwarves stored in that box right now! not a good solution for travel, but definitely a good storage box! :-)

@sigurdbjohansson

3 ай бұрын

@@GoobertownHobbiesNice!

I do like those gnomes. The dwarves have nice clean lines well. Good for rank and file

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

*knomes ;-)

These models look so good, the moment I saw them I had the urge to paint them. Looks like i need to order a set... XD

@GoobertownHobbies

13 күн бұрын

Plus knomes are spelled awesome! :-)

honestly the cardboard packaging inside looks baller and ancient. love it.

The Drowned Earth by Olmec Games has been moving towards more environmentally friendly methods; shifting from metal castings to a Siocast type resin, more recyclable packaging and digital resources too

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

oooh, thanks for the recommendation, I'm checking it out now! :-)

Those minis came out great! Thank you for another wonderful video.

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

hey thanks! :-)

It’s good to see some more companies getting on board with ditching disposable plastic packaging. A small Wargames manufacturer is small change globally, but the last few Lego sets we’ve bought have used paper instead of plastic for the internal bags, so bigger companies are catching on as well.

Interesting idea. The bits already coming clipped off the sprue is kind of a game-changer. I'm a little concerned about possible weather issues with shipping and delivery since there's no plastic. But I suppose worst-case scenario the model bits are still fine haha

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

The pre-clipped bits is an aspect that I really like! I'm glad that the package didn't sit on my porch on a rainy day... I suspect most of these will arrive safe and sound, but we'll see! :-)

That looks great Brent. Very nice work. It's awesome to see these after hearing about them on Paint Bravely... my only complaint is... where are the Kobolds?

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

hehehe, we'll have to talk them into some kobolds later 🙂

@mindlasher

3 ай бұрын

@goobertownhobbies but with it be Kobolds with a G?

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

kogolds @@mindlasher

happy about this

Great game and review! Awesome painting as always!

Cool looking minis, environment friendly company, game seems fun. I'll need to keep an eye on them.

This looks brilliant... The Dwarves look quite tall though :) Thanks Brent.

After listening to tyour podcast on this topic I was expecting minis and cards are the lower end of average. Everything looks really nice. Hoping to see more acceptance of type of production in the future.

I'm so glad this is becoming a trend in our hobby! Recently I've switched completely to synthetic brushes after I found out how horrifyingly the sables are treated. After much searching I've started using the Escoda ones and so far they're the sturdiest synthetics I've seen, the tips hold well and the general feel and quality is second only to the finest of Kolinsky hair. Now if only someone could figure out how to make those synthetic fibers from something environmentally friendly...

Thanks for this video. It’s great to see companies being responsible, ditching all the plastic (or as much as they can) and going with recyclable materials like paper and cardboard. I’m seriously considering buying this game just to support the company.

I think our hobby has huge potential for environmental consciousness. Between making terrain and kitbashing from "trash" and, as you mentioned, that old unused minis rarely see a trash can but get rehomed. I would love to see companies offering sprue recycling or even regional manufacturing to reduce the need for international shipping. Thank you for this video and I look forward to the rest of the series!

Love this company, seriously support them if you can

Nice to see (yet another) British miniature company. I dont know how the midlands does it, but this area is insane with the number of companies in a small area doing great work. This is one of the things GW used to really push with kitbashes and scratch building terrain from pretty much anything. It's a shame that the profit margin has moved them towards a 'buy our kit' mentality, but I think white dwarf still showcases some cool ideas every now and again

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, the brits have a solid population of hobby nerds! Totally agree with you on the way terrain builders re-using materials being an important and fascinating topic :-) I still have some of those good 'ol GW terrain crafting publications.

Fantastic, informative and well balanced review as usual. Brent knows his science - mini gaming is low impact on the environment but his is a step better. Nice one!

The Knomes really remind me of the Derro, but maybe that's just because of the official paint job.

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

oooh, yeah they kinda do!

This is a great concept. I'm very curious to see how the game plays. Good stuff, Brent.

You know which hobby has a large community swapping our minis around? CMON A Song of Ice and Fire :) It would be so lovely to see you paint those minis. I think you would love them as you usually love knights.

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

I've got some mormont she-bears around here that have been calling my name...

@JohnSmith-zi5tc

3 ай бұрын

noice@@GoobertownHobbies

@andraslibal

3 ай бұрын

@@GoobertownHobbies sounds awesome :) looking forward to them

"Try to paint a similar number of minis to the number of minis that you buy" ..... I feel personally attacked. ;) But jokes aside, those are words of wisdom for sure. I do try. Good video as always. They're such a pleasure to watch.

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

it's a fight that I am losing... but at least we have some cool minis :-)

“Driving around in an SUV to go shopping for a new set of curtains” is definitely a Normal People thing. 😂

Dwarves and Gnomes are the most environmentally friendly races, because casting them requires less plastic.

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

maybe the next factions will be goblins and kobolds! :-)

I've (poorly) painted half a mini in my lifetime. Not sure I'm going to go far with the hobby. It's mainly for my sons to play DnD with them. But man, I love your videos. They are so relaxing and informative. And I love your cats!

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

you're always welcome here :-)

I like this company's approach. It's not perfect, but it's a good starting point.

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

agreed! I'm curious to see where they go in the future

As you say, this hobby is super gentle on the environment. I hard it find to worry about

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

yep- nothing wrong with grabbing some low-hanging fruit and making the easy optimizations to reduce the footprint a bit more though! :-)

@OurCognitiveSurplus

3 ай бұрын

@@GoobertownHobbies Maybe. But the counterfactual isn’t obvious. Like, let’s say GW optimizes its packaging a bit. I get a broken mini and send it back. What’s the trade off? Equally, let’s say I decide to stop using make up sponges, get annoyed when I rub some paint off, and decide to spend a day doing my high impact hobby instead. I guess it’s just not obvious that making the 1% of my impact that is hobby 1% more efficient is actually going to work out overall. Certainly not compared to putting the same effort into something more impactful. Like food waste etc

@GoobertownHobbies

3 ай бұрын

oh food waste is WAAAY more important in the scheme of things than anything going on in our hobby... but I'm glad there are some folks in our hobby working out how to make our little corner of things a teeny bit more efficient.@@OurCognitiveSurplus

They make gun cleaning swabs with bamboo shafts that work well.