oh snap... that IS a good plastic palette that snuck into the box! how could I miss that! ;-)

@Burgala

2 ай бұрын

Could probably be used as a good container for a DIY wet pallet too

@IamtheWV17

2 ай бұрын

Is it not the standard army painter plastic tub? They're so handy.

Thanks for the review Dana! Yours and Brent’s feedback during the Speedpaint project on what a Starter Set should be played a huge role in the makeup of it.

@DanaHowl

2 ай бұрын

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!!! I didn't want to assume but I thought our input might have had influence on this set, as this is pretty much exactly what I would want from a starter set, great work on this!!!!

@gouldmears2071

2 ай бұрын

Please know that your reaching out to the community and making changes is one of the big reasons for many of us trying out and then continuing to buy your paints. Y'all have improved so much. I know I really appreciate it and AP makes up a very nice chunk of my paints now because of it.

@ItsDrMcQuack

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for putting your money where your mouths are. :) And thank you for engaging so directly with the community. It makes you stand out in a sea of indifferent companies.

@DOCDOCFLAMINGOS

2 ай бұрын

Ummmmm.... Just my 3¢.... As someone who is only looking in from the outside, take that as you will.... BUT... As generally Nothing produced and sold is ever perfect, so a company or brand should always want to continue to improve on what they are making and selling!!! That being said I think a way to be able to do that in the best way is to have people review a product as they choose (good bad etc) and listen to what they say, as opposed to finding people that will just give lip service talking about just how great or awesome something is, to present it in the best light possible even though it might not be a good product!! At the end of the day im saying that Army Painter is clearly making the better choices and listing to what people have to say (good and bad). And going back and working with those points , to make a better product overall!! And it clearly shows that you do care what people say !!... Because a company shows they dont really care and never try to make a better product, the customers will stop coming to buy the products and when they are gone the company is gone!! Army Painter you are doing good work and making smart choices for yourself as a company and for your miniature painting/gaming customers!! Keep on keeping on!!!!

@henrikwannheden7114

2 ай бұрын

Adding a sponge mat and a parchment paper in this set would make it complete as the clear plastic tub could make up the container. But using a we palette is not a beginner technique, and more experienced painters could easily amend this set DIY style.

14:08 Someone may already have pointed this out, but that plastic clam shell is perfect for making a wet palette out of, just stick some paper towel or an old rag in the *deep side, saturate it with water and some baking paper on top. Then shove it back into the box once you are done painting to keep it out of sunlight.

@DarkHelm78

2 ай бұрын

2:47

@minihali

2 ай бұрын

@@DarkHelm78 I actually double checked this part, just to make sure she didn't make the same point I did, and what she is refering to is using it as a dry palettee, like a plastic palette

The stickers are great and i dont know why it isnt done more. Being able to label shelves or use other bottles for premixing, not having to rely on reading slowly fading sharpie is wonderful. Also having that plastic be kinda perfect for making a wet palette is sweet, intentional or not

@Bluecho4

2 ай бұрын

Stickers also prod that deep core memory of being a child, and getting stickers to paste on wherever.

They look very good and you might consider buying to try them, but here in Spain it is very easy to find Vallejo's 16-color set for around €35. I think it will always be my recommendation for beginners.

@DanaHowl

2 ай бұрын

That's very fair!! the vallejo sets are a lot harder to find over here in Canada!

@frandeastora2128

2 ай бұрын

Some stores even have stupid discounts like 3x2 on 18ml bottles of their different ranges, so I think it's hard to replace them as the main option (except for GW heavy enthusiasts who only use Citadel). In any case, after watching this video and Brent's I want to get this set to see what I can do with it!

It's fine if you and Brent both made a similar video. I'm pretty sure most people are not following every youtuber and it's nice to have different (or similar) critics about a new product.

I still use my original AP Warpaints starter paints for some of my armies. I am definitely looking forward to the new red, though! I've never been overly disappointed by the AP ranges, and will continue to use them.

I will use a brush-on primer before a spray can. That's what I used to do before getting my airbrush. It is good to see it in this set. I remember "priming" my minis with bleached bone from the Dark Angels paint set in the 90s.

ill be starting a high elf army when it comes out. i love how i just discovered this paint line after spending 100 usd at citadel

It's interesting that you note the faster drying time as Army Painter has been advertizing the Fanatics to have a longer working time.

@kanadaj3275

2 ай бұрын

I feel like if they weren't aware that the drying time may be too short at times, they wouldn't have a separate Retarder as part of the new lineup

@Bloodfencer1990

2 ай бұрын

@@kanadaj3275 Retarders are kind of a standard product to include with your other mediums. The only paint lines that don't have a retarde rin their line up are the ones that don't sell their regular paint medium separately.

new ep of the squaaaarespace show dropped! good points, dana, and the reason there's no such thing as doubling up on an idea - execution and use case varies widely between artists. standing by to see you put the not-triads through their paces.

Hay Dana, just wanted to let you know I appreciate the disclaimer on your relationship with Army Painter at the start of the video! Thanks!

Thanks for this review Dana! I've not been a fan of the previous Army Painter paints, so it's great to hear so much good to be said about the new ones. It was quite a challenge to buy my fiancé his "I want to paint my 3D prints" paint set for his birthday. This would probably nail this pretty well!

Great and informative review, I have just started this hobby and I will definitely pick this set up. Thanks for simplifying things for us beginners. By the way your eyes are mesmerizing.

I started with a small Army Painter set and I thought it was great. I enjoyed the smaller amount of colours so you can try mixing your own tones and get more familiar with the colour wheel. Good vid, as always.

This was a fantastic review of these paints! It was a great primer that I needed to cover a demo of these paints in my FLGS. I'll be using the notes I took from this and Brent's video to share with folks in person tomorrow. Thank you for this!

Pairing this set with the Army Painter tool set and wet pallete would be incredible for beginners and veterans. If The Army Painter decide to sell a bundle set like this for the hobby for a nice even $100, I think it would be a huge success. However, I had a similar issue with Goobes video on this set and the paint line in general. I just feel if youre going to sell brush on primer it should come in a larger bottle like their air primers. Its why I have stuck with the Vallejo primers for over a decade because you can buy them in large bottles that are still the largest primer bottles you can get for the hobby on the market for value. I know Pro Acryl and AK have larger primer bottles now, I just hope the Army painter will do the same with their brush on primer.

A solid recommendation. Looking forward to getting one of these sets myself.

I had cheap acrylics for a while when I started to learn airbrushing, good learning curve, by the time I got back into mini's about a year ago i had good primer and thinner , flow improver,matt and gloss medium,when i started painting minis again i brought the primary colour set of Vallejo model air and that did me good for 2-3 40k units

Thanks for the review!

Dana, I obviously love you and yadda-yadda, but the way you say _Squuarrre Spaaaceeee_ just keeps getting spookier and spookier and my fragile heart can't handle it anymore! I wish I could think of a decent idea for a website to make with Square Space, because I'm afraid if I don't cave in and sign-up, Square Ghosts will come and turn me into a human cube. :p (I'm always happy to see a new Dana Howl video) edit: Seeing a primer that's only slightly lighter in tone than the standard grey plastic of GW miniatures did throw me, I must admit. I'm so used to white spraying assembled figures, I wouldn't feel like my minis were ready to be painted yet with such a light touch. But then again your models look way better than mine, so maybe I need a rethink of my ol' reliable priming methods ;p

I've been using the Army Painter brush-on primer for years (especially when painting a single mini), and I think it works great!

@DanaHowl

2 ай бұрын

I might have to try out some of the other colours of it!

Would love to see the process with the included miniature

Great transparency on your past dealings with AP. Definitely interested in the new range as I already use some of the old range despite their shortcomings

Very nice overview to the paint set and you worked quite some magic with this limited number of colors! A good demonstration of its potential! 👍

Wish they would ship my mega set already! Between you and Brent I’m absolutely hyped!

Living 3 floors up , in a built up area , Brush on primmer is amazing 🤩 I love it 🥰

Excited for you to discover Pale Sand!

Ya, I can see why they went with the ultramarine blue, without any citadel kislev flesh and reikland flesh shade wash; got some wet palletes and a dungeon tile set gift as a test of commitment though, definitely like the look of the citadel water bucket and so I don't drink the paint water, lol, and those bright proacryl paints look like they can be pretty nice with the 12 or 11 man blood bowl team color by color assembly line, while one layer of the knight-questor flesh over the black and grey primer was pretty good on my halfling hefty as they've been keeping me busy for awhile and while to come yet, lol?

I'll be honest that comparison of the pro acryl on showing the saturation sold me on picking up some of the pro acryls

Nice and instructive video (as expected!). I find the one thing that is not beginner-friendly in this small starters is... the limited paint range that necessitates mixing. Mixing paints is not beginner friendly, especially when you need to re-mix more of the stuff to correct mistakes. But I don't know what the solution would be, making it a larger starter box would increase its price...

I think Army Painter has improved their paints a lot. I am really impressed with their brushes….so I haven’t always used their paints…

@DanaHowl

2 ай бұрын

I'm a big fan of their brushes as well!

I discovered the Army Painter airbrush black primer is a very good brush on primer, and you get a big bottle. White was less effective. I haven't tried mixing for a grey yet.

Any time any other creator is sponsored by squarespace, i literally say "Squaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace" out loud. Love it! :D I've never used a brush on primer, which really makes me consider trying this out. It has been less than a year of being back in the hobby, and looking at my mix of all kinds of paints, Army Painter is what I use the most of. I don't see why I wouldn't pick this starter set up, to be frank.

On the topic of brushing on primer: Stynylrez acrylic primer can be brushed on, levels out super well and shrinks down after applied. I highly recommend it to anyone who is struggling with not being able to spray prime.

I have players that in session 3 randomly and collectively decided to slay the gods. I had to pivot my plot so fast, but it ended up being a great campaign

@DanaHowl

2 ай бұрын

I think you might have left this comment on the wrong video lmao!

Great video and I always appreciate the integrity. I think between you and Brent you've covered a good portion of what these paints are about. I'm glad they are getting better but I don't feel the need to try out any of TAP offerings (I'm still bitter about my Speedpaints 1.0 experience). Thanks again for a thorough review done with great visuals.

If you want to attract Dana's attention to something, dangle a bottle of Pale Sand... 🤣

Using the plastic insert is almost a no brainer. Maybe you wouldn't want to spoil your brand new paintset by dirtying it like this , specially if you have to pack it all away again at the end of your session , or maybe I'm a bit precious about things like this sometimes. But this actually seems like a really good solution if you don't have a dedicated mixing pallet or subsitute surface like an old plate for mixing paints. The set looks pretty good as far as choice of colours and paints goes too.

13:20 I can almost hear Jason from Slowfuse yelling: "Yessss!" on using the paints without a wet palette.

@theandf

2 ай бұрын

Curious. I don't know who Jason is. What's the argument against using a wet palette? I usually cannot bother, but given the current hot climate in my country, which makes paint dry up in my palette, I absolutely needed to switch to a wet palette (also: especially when mixing paints where I don't want them to dry up and be forced to re-mix them).

@TylerProvick

2 ай бұрын

@@theandf Jason is the guy who produces Pro Acryl and was recently on the Trapped Under Plastic podcast where he expressed his preference for hard palettes.

I'm considering the new Game Color because Pro Acryl is expensive, especially considering it doesn't get thinned down. It's hard to get the gel paints or Two Thin Coats here in the US.

Hello I would love to see a video about « TMM orNMM » I’m asking this to all the miniature painters I follow, I am actually quite interested about it Very nice video tho sorry for the digression 😅

Great review! As a user of speedpaints (which I love) is there a metallic in the fanatic range that would be a good highlight silver for speedpaint polished silver base coats? Since polished silver is quite bright I am hoping there is something even brighter silverish in the fanatic range. 🎉

This will be the fanatic set I get. I’m very curious about it.

I would just build a wet pallete OUT OF THE LID! Put in towls and greased paper and you are good.

Wholesome HobbyTube Showdown Complete; Everybody Wins!

“You know what other system is easy to use?” “The Munsell Color System?”

The only particularly good 'starter set' (IMO) i've come across was the 'Vallejo Game Colour Wargamer Starter Set' 16 paints for £34 in UK. no primer, wash or brush included - but a good variety of basic colours and metallics. I've not tried any army painter paints for general use for a while but wasn't a big fan of most I tried for the reasons you mention. Certainly not terrible but not especially good. I did get the 'Army Painter Skin Tone Set ' last year which was excellent for my intended purpose - painting small faces/skin areas only - and not bad value. £35-£40 in UK I think. Id advise any starter buys a primer spray can to get going anyhow - as it deals with one fairly boring task straight away. Spray-priming minis is quite fun and satisfying in itself !!

I can no longer say square space normally now thanks to Dana! 😂

@DanaHowl

2 ай бұрын

your transformation is now complete!!!

@nathant1428

2 ай бұрын

@@DanaHowl Thank you for such an awesome video, I’m a beginner painter and I will definitely be considering this set after your video! Also quick question, I noticed your hobby basics series says outdated, but is it still usable? Thank you!

They sent you a bottle of pale sand? Obviously this review is going to be COMPLETELY biased. d:

Cool 🎨🖌

I would have thought that this review was completely balanced, but knowing that you were bribed with a bottle of PALE SAND is just a bridge too far :p

@DanaHowl

2 ай бұрын

OOOOOPS >_

Smaller make up brushes are great for brush on primer

Is it just me, or does the Squarespace intro keep getting longer? Great review, Dana!

I can't afford the mega sets, wish they would hurry up and announce when individual paints will be available

@DanaHowl

2 ай бұрын

I think it's typically a few months after the box sets release!

@Trebicyem

2 ай бұрын

Store manager here in Canada: The date I have from my distributor is April 20th

When your army paint scheme gets called retro but it was new when you did it. =( R.I.P. classic Bretonnian heraldry

I would argue Pro Acryl is not something you'd want to give to beginners. While I appreciate the comparisons as an intermediate, IMO it's less useful for someone who just wants to know "should I get the AP starter set, compared to other starter sets that are available on the market?". Comparison of products in the same class would've been more appropriate.

I got real frustrated with their war paints line last night. I keep getting tempted to buy some proacryl or some of these paints.

@DanaHowl

2 ай бұрын

I think both are good options, really it comes down to whether you prefer a thicker or thinner paint!

I dont get why people hype about AP so much. Ive bought all of their products from cans, brushes, brush on primer, paints, tools, and everytime i feel i got a hoby knock off product. Some tools and paints got so bad out of the box i had to get in touch with costumer support and get a refund. Their washes are the only saving grace. Vallejo and ak are my recommendation for beginners. Inexpensive kits for beginners yes, as long as the quality is actually good too.

@fateweaver9844

2 ай бұрын

This particular line has gotten great reviews from all levels of painter including Golden Demon winners who have had ZERO good things to say about AP. I like their grass tufts though

I've got a giftcard burning a hole in my pocket for amazon, do you have an affiliate link that would kick back to you? I might want to use it for some of the new Fanatic paints

@DanaHowl

2 ай бұрын

I do! Thank you for asking :) Check out my supplies page at howlcorp.com/tools thanks!!!

@bluenine85

2 ай бұрын

@@DanaHowlCan do will do, also I picked up a bottle of Howling Sand at Meeplemart, love having it in the kit :)

@DanaHowl

2 ай бұрын

its a very useful colour!!! thank you!!!

Would rather buy Vallejo even if they cost more.

While these do look like decent paints for a beginning painter, I won't support AP. Thanks for the review, Dana.

Does anyone know if brush will be vegan friendly or is it animal hair?

Lombre

Bronze Age caveman

No final shots on the painted minis? I can’t help but feel clickbaited… :(

Jesus christ the coverage of that primer is abysmal. Don't get me wrong, I love AP and their team, products, transparency, and drive to improve with every paint line but ffs, this is a joke.

@coreymorse1347

2 ай бұрын

It might be better than shown, her brush on primer technique of choice is dry brushing it on. It could go on perfectly fine with a more typical application. Stynylrez is probably still a choice as a brush on primer though, I've yet to find better.