I buy my wine at grocery outlet...$5 or $6 a bottle. Wine is a staple of life, has been for thousands of years. Charging $20 +++ for a bottle of wine is an economic model that simply will not work and most people will just not buy it and it will collect dust on the shelf.
@ylee3438Күн бұрын
seems like you have fully recovered from covid now. I just got it, but not too bad. Thanks for great wine videos.
@mjpc5226Күн бұрын
Thank you
@coryz6880Күн бұрын
Enjoyed your tasting notes, thank you 🍷
@chrisparisi7291Күн бұрын
Nice quick reviews. Thanks for sharing.
@panaceiasuberes64646 күн бұрын
Subbed....
@panaceiasuberes64646 күн бұрын
So much information... amazing wines...
@mjpc52266 күн бұрын
Great video, thank you. Will you please review non-french cabernet sauvignon based wines?
@michaelhui12236 күн бұрын
Get well soon Tom!
@50somethinglawyer7 күн бұрын
Get well soon and take a break!
@johncurin58507 күн бұрын
Feel better! You have a great channel
@thomasbain91507 күн бұрын
Been taking D3 10,000 units and K2 for years.
@aes88817 күн бұрын
Hope you feel better
@John-sg9fz7 күн бұрын
Get well Tommy. Keep up the great work. You are the wine industry GOAT
@hugosbalder61397 күн бұрын
Isn't Trotanoy a good value at 200 bucks?
@thomasbain91507 күн бұрын
There’s some other good vintages of Trotanoy available with bottle age under $200. I love Trotanoy but at what price? Value is a individual, subjective choice.
@hugosbalder61395 күн бұрын
@@thomasbain9150 Which vintages do you mean? In Europe you have to pay $450-600 for 2016-2020..................
@thomasbain91505 күн бұрын
@@hugosbalder6139Looking over the numbers you are probably right about the the 2023 offering value. Only Trotanoy from off vintages are under $200. It seems the Mouiex stable are raising their Pomerol prices from older vintages (have you seen the lastest pricing on past vintages of Petrus? Ouch!)
@matthiasschairer64567 күн бұрын
Great video, thank you! What do you think about Carmes Haut Brion? Not a good year for them? No value at 105€?
@DjWicked07 күн бұрын
Was wondering the same thing.
@coryz68807 күн бұрын
Great video as always 🍷 Rest up and feel better!
@filipmadsen44297 күн бұрын
Thank you Tom for the knowledge you share and the time you put into your videos. Good recovery and have a good break.
@chicojones786315 күн бұрын
How much is this collection worth in 2024??
@John-sg9fz15 күн бұрын
Tommy is the wine industry GOAT
@Ruirspirul21 күн бұрын
1995 $35 with inflation is probably same price as today😄
@welshtoro325622 күн бұрын
Cheers Tom. Totally agree about buying when the vintage is good and sitting on them, especially back in the day when the prices were good. Top quality wine from quality producers costs a bomb these days though. Just as well we can raid that cellar for a special treat.
@piffpaff148222 күн бұрын
Thumbs up👍
@duncanowen671222 күн бұрын
Love your videos Tom. Fascinating and charming. I hope you keep em going. ❤
@welshtoro325626 күн бұрын
I completely agree Tom and I can confirm your wedding scenario to so many restaurants in wine producing countries like Spain and Italy. Prices are the problem. Yes, good beer is an option but people would still like wine in a restaurant but the wine prices are a minimum of six times the prices of a good beer which can last a meal. National wine, outside of their own market, are five times the price of retail. Restaurant's are backing up with this stuff and so are wine merchants. The life cycle you describe is not just shrinking, it's collapsing. Wine, its history, culture and properties are becoming increasingly irrelevant to younger people.
@billorights159629 күн бұрын
I add carbonated water to these wines. They taste better
@Mardello20 күн бұрын
Snore
@MichaelYoung-gl8ou29 күн бұрын
Love how you pointed out the big offenders of the 22 vintage.
@MangoZen29 күн бұрын
Thanks Tom.Excellent information! Really appreciate all the work you put in providing us this level of detail. Very useful
@MattStarkRealEstste29 күн бұрын
Tom, great the deep dive on Bdx23. Love to head your thoughts on PLL, Canon, Rauzan Segla. PLL seems like a great value at very close to 19 EP.
@Ruirspirul29 күн бұрын
its very easy, 2022 was extremely dry, almost no rain during the vegetation period and 2023 was one of the wettest summers in a long time. thats why mildew was an issue. so we got extremely small berries and huge concentration of 2022 versus the “watery” style of 2023. 2023 will go down in history as one of the weakest vintages of the decade but obviously some wineries have made incredible wines.
@SuedviertelZidane29 күн бұрын
Tom always reminds me of my beloved uncle (RIP). Just love his videos.
@williamhuang297629 күн бұрын
People (more prestigious critics, if that means anything) all said 23 vintage was really challenging in st emillion, but their scores definitely don't reflect that (still pretty high) compared to 22's. They were sponsored by the wineries?
@John-sg9fz29 күн бұрын
Tommy is the wine GOAT. A true legend in the industry that wants people to find the best value. Keep up the good work Tommy and thanks for your efforts.
@coryz688029 күн бұрын
I am looking forward to hearing your recommendations. Thank you for the insightful data. I purchased many wines in the 2023 futures upon release and stayed mostly away from St. Emilion and producers mainly affected by mildew (hedging on speculation based on what I have read). I purchased all of my ‘23 futures through a large wine merchant that only required a 50% deposit upfront and then balance in one year, which helps with your point related to the interest rate cost on your money. 🍷
@wakes_inc29 күн бұрын
Total Wine?
@welshtoro3256Ай бұрын
Personally, I don't bother with this sort of wine. The prices are absurd and there are so many good wines from all over the world. Nevertheless, it's good to get the lowdown on these futures. Tom, I think you make a very good point about vintage quality and I completely agree. The majority of the wine I buy comes from Spain and Italy to a lesser extent. In the old days Rioja vintages, for example, could range from Poor, Average, Good, Very Good and, on occasion, Excellent. These days it's never below less than Very Good and you get a consistent producer profile.
@winemoneysongАй бұрын
Totally agree with you about the high quality of Rioja.
@strekk1486Ай бұрын
Feels like the destocking that played out in other markets in 2023 has yet to play out in Bordeaux, once you have that stock overhang prices are going to move lower. If you also have a situation where the producers pocketed the high prices selling into the futures market the past few years, and negotiants were left with the stock that didn't and now won't mov3 at the prices they paid, that could also incentives producers to move prices lower to clear their production, because they don't or have less exposure to the high priced stock that hasn't sold.
@andydevinewineАй бұрын
I've just bought a bottle of 1985 haut brion.....you've got a case of magnums 🤣
@winemoneysongАй бұрын
What a great wine and classic Haut-Brion! 59, 61, 82, 85, 89 just some of the monumental HB’s. Love the 85 for it’s class while I admire the 89 for it’s concentration and power. How much did the 85 HB cost you?
@marcusvandenbroek8957Ай бұрын
Another wonderful analysis Tom. Objective, independent and level-headed. Thanks! The result of many years of experience, in the broadest sense of the word, regarding wine. A personal note. if I may be so free. Which helped me personally. First develop your personal taste over the years. Taste Bordeaux from all kinds of price segments of various classifications. From different years and different ages and certainly not only the so-called top years. In some cases it may be a first-growth, but do not make it an obsession. Testing and comparing wines blindly may also be part of this. Also put a Bordeaux blend from another wine region on the tasting table (preferably blind). Often very educational! In short, gain objective experience, so you know what you are talking about. Concerning Bordeaux, first-growth and wine in general. With the necessary experience and with the help of this channel, it is likely that you will gain a better understanding when it comes to first-growth purchases.
@TobiasAsjogrenАй бұрын
Tom, much appriciated the analysis, you got integrity. 🙏🏼
@piffpaff1482Ай бұрын
Very helpful, thanks👋
@ptg01Ай бұрын
I stopped buying Bordeaux futures once it reached $1K per case...back in the 90's !
@williamhuang2976Ай бұрын
completely agree with everything in the video. Especially, scores by all the critics are way inflated, even the reviews are less meaningful, but all the praise. I'm so glad I didn't buy any 2022 1st growth futures. I plan to buy 23 haut brion future, your opinion?
@winemoneysongАй бұрын
Haut-Brion is my favorite 1st growth and I don’t think you are go can go wrong at the 2023 futures HB price.
@williamhuang2976Ай бұрын
@@winemoneysong thanks and cheers!
@josephsiegel7084Ай бұрын
Let me guess....without watching the video I can predict that expensive things are not worth it, and that the quality of cheaper things is greater than more expensive things.
@user-to3ph2vj1cАй бұрын
Very informative, your analysis is right on.
@samejia4Ай бұрын
Tom will you do analysis like last year on good QPR and your best buys of the vintage? Im relativelly new to collecting and as you said prices are good for first timers like me. Im doing at least 1 bottle of each
@wakes_incАй бұрын
The way I see it, the number of people sitting on existing cellars who can sit this one out is greater than the number of new collectors who can afford multiple bottles of first growth. I just don't see where the demand will come from.
@roeffaersmichel7971Ай бұрын
To the point!
@Randal835Ай бұрын
Tom - I enjoy your candor and no nonsense approach to wine. So many KZread wine channels get into absurd territory with hyperbolic bottle reviews with tasting notes referencing scorched earth, wilted roses & 3 day old buttered sourdough. I see similarities in the price reductions of EVs - there's a surplus of stock that needs to go to a new home and the invisible hand of the market dictates that prices will fall to the right level to move the product. As with the people who purchased Tesla's a few days before Elon drops the price of a Model 3 by $3k, I'm sure buyers who went in on 2021/22 Bordeaux at those big prices will be upset at the moment. Do you think Bordeaux risks permanently burning their customer base with these price fluctuations?
@OfficialRalphSАй бұрын
Very good analysis... which I agree with. Best wishes from Switzerland
@buddyblue1391Ай бұрын
Hi, my passive basement cellar ranges from 55 winter to 65 summer and gradually fluctuates. Do you think my wines will age ok? Humidity is 45 to 65. Thank you, really enjoy your channel
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I buy my wine at grocery outlet...$5 or $6 a bottle. Wine is a staple of life, has been for thousands of years. Charging $20 +++ for a bottle of wine is an economic model that simply will not work and most people will just not buy it and it will collect dust on the shelf.
seems like you have fully recovered from covid now. I just got it, but not too bad. Thanks for great wine videos.
Thank you
Enjoyed your tasting notes, thank you 🍷
Nice quick reviews. Thanks for sharing.
Subbed....
So much information... amazing wines...
Great video, thank you. Will you please review non-french cabernet sauvignon based wines?
Get well soon Tom!
Get well soon and take a break!
Feel better! You have a great channel
Been taking D3 10,000 units and K2 for years.
Hope you feel better
Get well Tommy. Keep up the great work. You are the wine industry GOAT
Isn't Trotanoy a good value at 200 bucks?
There’s some other good vintages of Trotanoy available with bottle age under $200. I love Trotanoy but at what price? Value is a individual, subjective choice.
@@thomasbain9150 Which vintages do you mean? In Europe you have to pay $450-600 for 2016-2020..................
@@hugosbalder6139Looking over the numbers you are probably right about the the 2023 offering value. Only Trotanoy from off vintages are under $200. It seems the Mouiex stable are raising their Pomerol prices from older vintages (have you seen the lastest pricing on past vintages of Petrus? Ouch!)
Great video, thank you! What do you think about Carmes Haut Brion? Not a good year for them? No value at 105€?
Was wondering the same thing.
Great video as always 🍷 Rest up and feel better!
Thank you Tom for the knowledge you share and the time you put into your videos. Good recovery and have a good break.
How much is this collection worth in 2024??
Tommy is the wine industry GOAT
1995 $35 with inflation is probably same price as today😄
Cheers Tom. Totally agree about buying when the vintage is good and sitting on them, especially back in the day when the prices were good. Top quality wine from quality producers costs a bomb these days though. Just as well we can raid that cellar for a special treat.
Thumbs up👍
Love your videos Tom. Fascinating and charming. I hope you keep em going. ❤
I completely agree Tom and I can confirm your wedding scenario to so many restaurants in wine producing countries like Spain and Italy. Prices are the problem. Yes, good beer is an option but people would still like wine in a restaurant but the wine prices are a minimum of six times the prices of a good beer which can last a meal. National wine, outside of their own market, are five times the price of retail. Restaurant's are backing up with this stuff and so are wine merchants. The life cycle you describe is not just shrinking, it's collapsing. Wine, its history, culture and properties are becoming increasingly irrelevant to younger people.
I add carbonated water to these wines. They taste better
Snore
Love how you pointed out the big offenders of the 22 vintage.
Thanks Tom.Excellent information! Really appreciate all the work you put in providing us this level of detail. Very useful
Tom, great the deep dive on Bdx23. Love to head your thoughts on PLL, Canon, Rauzan Segla. PLL seems like a great value at very close to 19 EP.
its very easy, 2022 was extremely dry, almost no rain during the vegetation period and 2023 was one of the wettest summers in a long time. thats why mildew was an issue. so we got extremely small berries and huge concentration of 2022 versus the “watery” style of 2023. 2023 will go down in history as one of the weakest vintages of the decade but obviously some wineries have made incredible wines.
Tom always reminds me of my beloved uncle (RIP). Just love his videos.
People (more prestigious critics, if that means anything) all said 23 vintage was really challenging in st emillion, but their scores definitely don't reflect that (still pretty high) compared to 22's. They were sponsored by the wineries?
Tommy is the wine GOAT. A true legend in the industry that wants people to find the best value. Keep up the good work Tommy and thanks for your efforts.
I am looking forward to hearing your recommendations. Thank you for the insightful data. I purchased many wines in the 2023 futures upon release and stayed mostly away from St. Emilion and producers mainly affected by mildew (hedging on speculation based on what I have read). I purchased all of my ‘23 futures through a large wine merchant that only required a 50% deposit upfront and then balance in one year, which helps with your point related to the interest rate cost on your money. 🍷
Total Wine?
Personally, I don't bother with this sort of wine. The prices are absurd and there are so many good wines from all over the world. Nevertheless, it's good to get the lowdown on these futures. Tom, I think you make a very good point about vintage quality and I completely agree. The majority of the wine I buy comes from Spain and Italy to a lesser extent. In the old days Rioja vintages, for example, could range from Poor, Average, Good, Very Good and, on occasion, Excellent. These days it's never below less than Very Good and you get a consistent producer profile.
Totally agree with you about the high quality of Rioja.
Feels like the destocking that played out in other markets in 2023 has yet to play out in Bordeaux, once you have that stock overhang prices are going to move lower. If you also have a situation where the producers pocketed the high prices selling into the futures market the past few years, and negotiants were left with the stock that didn't and now won't mov3 at the prices they paid, that could also incentives producers to move prices lower to clear their production, because they don't or have less exposure to the high priced stock that hasn't sold.
I've just bought a bottle of 1985 haut brion.....you've got a case of magnums 🤣
What a great wine and classic Haut-Brion! 59, 61, 82, 85, 89 just some of the monumental HB’s. Love the 85 for it’s class while I admire the 89 for it’s concentration and power. How much did the 85 HB cost you?
Another wonderful analysis Tom. Objective, independent and level-headed. Thanks! The result of many years of experience, in the broadest sense of the word, regarding wine. A personal note. if I may be so free. Which helped me personally. First develop your personal taste over the years. Taste Bordeaux from all kinds of price segments of various classifications. From different years and different ages and certainly not only the so-called top years. In some cases it may be a first-growth, but do not make it an obsession. Testing and comparing wines blindly may also be part of this. Also put a Bordeaux blend from another wine region on the tasting table (preferably blind). Often very educational! In short, gain objective experience, so you know what you are talking about. Concerning Bordeaux, first-growth and wine in general. With the necessary experience and with the help of this channel, it is likely that you will gain a better understanding when it comes to first-growth purchases.
Tom, much appriciated the analysis, you got integrity. 🙏🏼
Very helpful, thanks👋
I stopped buying Bordeaux futures once it reached $1K per case...back in the 90's !
completely agree with everything in the video. Especially, scores by all the critics are way inflated, even the reviews are less meaningful, but all the praise. I'm so glad I didn't buy any 2022 1st growth futures. I plan to buy 23 haut brion future, your opinion?
Haut-Brion is my favorite 1st growth and I don’t think you are go can go wrong at the 2023 futures HB price.
@@winemoneysong thanks and cheers!
Let me guess....without watching the video I can predict that expensive things are not worth it, and that the quality of cheaper things is greater than more expensive things.
Very informative, your analysis is right on.
Tom will you do analysis like last year on good QPR and your best buys of the vintage? Im relativelly new to collecting and as you said prices are good for first timers like me. Im doing at least 1 bottle of each
The way I see it, the number of people sitting on existing cellars who can sit this one out is greater than the number of new collectors who can afford multiple bottles of first growth. I just don't see where the demand will come from.
To the point!
Tom - I enjoy your candor and no nonsense approach to wine. So many KZread wine channels get into absurd territory with hyperbolic bottle reviews with tasting notes referencing scorched earth, wilted roses & 3 day old buttered sourdough. I see similarities in the price reductions of EVs - there's a surplus of stock that needs to go to a new home and the invisible hand of the market dictates that prices will fall to the right level to move the product. As with the people who purchased Tesla's a few days before Elon drops the price of a Model 3 by $3k, I'm sure buyers who went in on 2021/22 Bordeaux at those big prices will be upset at the moment. Do you think Bordeaux risks permanently burning their customer base with these price fluctuations?
Very good analysis... which I agree with. Best wishes from Switzerland
Hi, my passive basement cellar ranges from 55 winter to 65 summer and gradually fluctuates. Do you think my wines will age ok? Humidity is 45 to 65. Thank you, really enjoy your channel