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There is no ignorance like christian knowledge There is no arrogance like christian humility There are no lies like Christian honesty There is no evil like christian good. There is no hate, like christian love
@OverlordShamala
20 күн бұрын
Nicely put!
@xtianhunter
20 күн бұрын
❤
@LOwens-xf8yo
20 күн бұрын
Amen!
@richardb7495
16 күн бұрын
This is sooooo true!! 😳
@chrisnorniron
12 күн бұрын
Oh, but there is. These things apply to other religions too. Sometimes more so.
I like the part where you can literally hear him shuffling his script around to find his place.
@quotedotes
21 күн бұрын
B-b-but he said that he had no paperwork in front of him, atheists just hate GAWD!!!...(adjusts paperwork)
@moxbroker
21 күн бұрын
Timestamps help when making these references. It’s that button next to post. 21:34 for instance.
@lordshell
20 күн бұрын
Yeah. Angry script guy.
@LOwens-xf8yo
20 күн бұрын
I like the part where callers claim they have something new the hosts have never seen before! Right
@GoodieWhiteHat
18 күн бұрын
I heard that and didn’t register it was paper. I just thought of peanuts.
Where are the transitional bones? I have about 206 of them, but you can’t have them until I decide to die.
The caller just wanted to preach, not discuss, and spoiler alert, he had nothing to offer.
Sometimes I see the length of the clip, and then I hear the callers opening statement, and I cannot believe THIS conversation is going to go on that long😂
As a lifelong member of the American Museum of Natural History, I can assure you that there is no shortage of transitional. This guy has to get out more. Ignorant and arrogant is a wicked combo.
@Moonbow826
20 күн бұрын
Every single skeleton is "transitional"
@reefhog
20 күн бұрын
These clowns think that there’s a dozen fossils, and just some guy wrote something in a book, the end. Pure ignorance.
@williambeckett6336
20 күн бұрын
Well he is from Missouri.
@sirbarryvee-eight6485
20 күн бұрын
I was going to say "the caller needs to spend some time in the natural history sections of museums" but hey, people like him either don't visit museums, or scoff at what they would call "misinformation" presented in museums. You beat me to it. Across the world, there are museums full of evidence of transitional species. I'm not into art, it's just not a thing I have interest in or knowledge of - but I don't go disputing Rembrandt because I don't visit art galleries.
@HandofOmega
19 күн бұрын
...and no way to go through life.😅
- Please explain to me. - OK, well... - Oh whatever. 🙄 Listening to this guy sloooowly digging himself a very deep hole is so enjoyable! 😊
4:30 *blatantly insults the hosts* "I didn't insult you!"
@LOwens-xf8yo
20 күн бұрын
Absolutely
The correct response to "where are the transitional fossils" will always be "everywhere; you refuse to acknowledge them and ignore the relevant literature." In order to think they don't exist, a person must intentionally duck, dodge, and dive all the relevant information.
@ARoll925
6 күн бұрын
@@jt5678 for most people that actually isn't that hard to dodge, duck and dive evolution, most people who aren't biologists don't really deal with evolution in their life, when the only thing a person hears about evolution is their pastor's weak ass lies about it and they don't seek out the information of course they are gonna be wrong about, I don't know that it is the 3 D's you mentioned, I think like most people they don't think about this stuff cause it's irrelevant to their life, they just believe what their pastor says about it, then they call and are embarrassed (or should be) by their ignorance, it's yet another example of how religion f's a persons brain up
He gets so frustrated when they won't just let him read his sermon script unchallenged. "Biblical evidence" isn't a thing. The Bible is the claim, my guy. If he had evidence to prove his god exists, he wouldn't need to start by "disproving" Islam.
Dave's opening broadside about transitional fossils shows he has not bothered to "swipe right" to learn the slightest thing about transitional fossils and how the support the theory of evolution, yet he expects the hosts to do the deep reading into his religious claims.
@Speednote10
2 күн бұрын
Science - "If we compare and contrast this new bone we found with the others we have we can learn more about them." Dave - "Impossible! There's no label on them!"
I’d love to see Dave from Missouri debate Matt on biblical literacy on a stage.
@Caphiasas-sf6ct
4 күн бұрын
i doubt Matt would bother, too easy
@EvilEyeGypsy
Күн бұрын
@@Caphiasas-sf6ct true.
@averagebear5889
Күн бұрын
Mat would pull out cell phone and play chess.
Every time someone say “I don't understand how” the answer should be “Go read a fucking book”
@Furry-iousNews
21 күн бұрын
While i _absolutely_ agree Do you think any of these people us going to read and _understand_ a scientific book when they haven't read _their own Bible_ 😅
@Callimo
21 күн бұрын
They could also literally email any expert in the field they have questions about, and that person would gladly answer and explain that shit. Scientists LOVE it when folks take an interest in their fields. But, strangely enough, these types always demand answers from people who haven't studied these disciplines. Very interesting 🤔🤔🤔
@quotedotes
21 күн бұрын
That's why they use arguments from incredulity though. They either can't, or don't *want* to understand. They want to be blind. No amount of evidence or education will convince them, because they choose to put blinders on. You can't reason with someone who refuses to see reason. Religions manipulate people's emotions in order to control them.
@JohnFnLopez
20 күн бұрын
They have no interest or intention of seeking truth. That's their entire point!
@ARoll925
20 күн бұрын
And not the bible
It really does seem difficult for deniers of evolutionary biology to grasp that if A can bring forth B, B can bring forth C, then ultimately and by definition, A can bring forth Z.
@Leith_Crowther
21 күн бұрын
“One plus one equals two.” “Yeah.” “Two plus one equals three.” “OK.” “And if we keep adding one over and over, we’ll eventually get to a billion.” “You can’t prove that.”
"All your science is wrong, a magic guy in the sky assembled the entire universe by hand, one Quark at the time". Ok, sure, that's a much better explanation.
I hope playback speed doesn't mess with video engagement bc this is definitely a 1.25x speed caller
It is because Wobbly Headed Dave is so intelligent that no one can understand how much his logic supercedes everything we know. While his logic may sound flippant and childlike, only Dave has the outstanding brilliance to understand his own abstractions of reality. It is only because we lack Dave's boundless intellectual capacity that his observations sound like the babbling nonsense of a toddler.
"I have no paperwork in front of me." *sound of shuffling papers*
Matt said it best: start by producing the defendant (ie God)
argument from d u n n i n g
@georgem2334
21 күн бұрын
Classic Dunning Kruger
When my grandfather was born, the entire town was astonished at how much he resembled me and the mayor herself wrote down that he was clearly a transition between his grandfather and me.
Host: Do you even want to hear anything we have to say? Caller: No, I got this
Just because the hosts aren't convinced by the same things that convinced you doesn't mean they didn't read the Bible or do their research, Dave. We've all heard this stuff many times before. It blew no one's mind.
HOW CAN YOU NOT AGREE THAT I'M RIGHT??
some one should tell poor old Dave that every single creature that has ever existed is a transitional form !
Dave is making a mockery of the kangaroo court!
Like how these dishonest callers call when Forest isn’t on
Every single bone in existence has the potential of becoming a transitional fossil in the future.
"We're just gonna deal with the big three" *only deals with Abrahamic faiths* I love that they always tread judaism as "big" because it's part of their collection. There's more practising hindus and buddhists than jews.
In attitude, this caller reminds me more than a little of Darth Dawkins…
5 seconds in and I’m laughing.
'I'm not reading from a script' being said right before the sound of papers being shuffled was incredible. Also, courts don't make you bring in 2 innocent people so they can work out who was guilty 😂😂😂
"Your reasoning is in that infantile state." Also: "Book says godidit."
I LOVE Good Omens!!!
Listening to his argument was like watching a train wreck in slow motion. 😂
The original question where the transitional fossils are is that the ones we have found are in museums and the not yet found ones are in the ground.
@jakeapplegate6642
20 күн бұрын
We have transitional bones in our bodies. You are sitting on some.
There are 66 books in his version of the Bible. 73 in the Catholic Bible. 80 in the Apocryphal King James Bible.
@hobbes305
20 күн бұрын
Hallelujah! The Bible is EVOLVING!
@Midnight.Wisdom.
20 күн бұрын
You rang?
Missouri lol
@Caphiasas-sf6ct
4 күн бұрын
nuff said, right
12:00 He starts his preamble here. 14:05 Reiterates preamble......
@Furry-iousNews
21 күн бұрын
You know what im googling this example, what street pastor trash theist said this
@Furry-iousNews
21 күн бұрын
Dammit can't find this specific bad argument
@Furry-iousNews
21 күн бұрын
23:00 Sweet fk, his WHOLE argument is "The book has a prophecy so therefore god" ALL that build up for "in episode 4 yoda says 'there is another' and then in episode 5 we see there IS another, so therefore the force is real!" Dum dum dumdumdum
"you don't believe in archaeological evidence of god" Did someone dig up transitional god bones?
That caller was one of the rudest & most dishonest I've ever heard.
The transitional bones are their money
@robdiacheysn3165
20 күн бұрын
So are the transitional worms
Considering their state nickname, I would expect Missourians to be more skeptical.
The Earth’s strata and the gradual progression of life forms in the fossil record? Just Mother Nature's way of keeping things interesting. She loves a good mystery, after all.
Prophecy: lies made to fit after the fact .
@Mr_Rouge
20 күн бұрын
Considering the amount of BS, I think this guy is indeed pro-feces.
Dave is condescending and arrogant and lacks simple understanding about anything. 🤣🤣🤣
@EvilEyeGypsy
21 күн бұрын
He is a transitional bone.
Dave from Missouri: your whole life whatevah !
At the end of the day Millions have tried millions of words But no one has ever proved a God or gods. How come
If I was a fiction writer, I could write a novel that ended with unresolved issues and even predictions, and that would be a kind of a cliff-hanger. Then suppose I wrote a sequel novel in which all those predictions I made up somehow get resolved. That’s exactly how I view the Old and New Testaments of the Bible. One man-made book with “prophesies” and a follow-up man-made book with resolutions of those prophesies. Two man-made books of pure fiction.
I was so hoping the caller would come up with a REAL ZINGER of evidence and he resorted to the old "Prophecies in the bible" argument.
The sad thing is dave genuinely thinks his court room analogy is brilliant, its mostly sad that a grown adult thinks this is good argument
@nagranoth_
12 күн бұрын
the really sad thing is the entire courtroom thing was an irrelevant waste of time. He could've started the call with "prophecies in my book though!", we'd have a laugh, call done in 2 minutes.
@rtvandle
6 күн бұрын
It's such a "and the judge was Albert Einstein" type of story
Get a copy of the prophecies of Nostrdamus for his next call and use that as proof.
Arguing about who’s god is true in court then lists 3 religions that all believe in the same god 🤦🏻♂️
@nagranoth_
12 күн бұрын
without even attempting to demonstrate any god exists at all, and the whole courtroom thing was irrelevant to begin with...
11:55 “I’m going to prove that there is a god” Well I’m excited. Let’s see now this goes, I might be about to convert. I’m excited! Dammit. He wouldn’t have even made it though a request for summary judgment. I guess still no gawd for me today.
Look guys! Yapmaxxing
Within 15. seconds you can feel the depths of Dave's unfortunate willful ignorance.
14:00 ish: OMG, has this guy ever read about the Kuzari?
"Islam not true, therefore my favorite christian gawd true!!!...uhhh, no wait, I lost my place in my script, let me find it again 🤪💀"
@quotedotes
21 күн бұрын
"A script?? I'm NOT going off a script, I got no paperwork in front of me 🥲😫🥲😫 (adjusts paperwork)"
@quotedotes
21 күн бұрын
"I'm gonna bring the FACTS to ya (brought no facts at any point, simply whined, moaned, complained that his pet beliefs weren't being accepted at face value, for no reason other than he belly ached a lot and said that they were "facts")"
21 minutes in - I'm going to present the facts . . . .
I was going to wright that they have lower their language to a kids language. But no, that would make the kid look smart.
What a shock, Dave was able to dismiss Islam so easily because he is playing favorites. Who knew. See this is why even today the hosts hurry the callers along, because we could've just started with "the Bible is special compared to Quran" and then dissect that.
All these games and pissing around on the part of the caller. My bible is proof. Wash rinse and repeat
Stop Assuming What Atheists positions are. We are Not all the Same. stop acting like they are not there like your monologuing
This guys "logic" of choosing 1 of the 10,000 different religions through history and then choosing 1 of the 30,000 denominations of that religion.
Dave knows nothing…but he accepts the Buyble.
Irony overload!
7:59 This is (at least) the second time on this show that I've heard a theist say evidence is an epistemic tool, but that's very much missing the point. The tool is not the evidence itself, but rather it's how you evaluate the evidence. If you're simply pointing to the evidence, that there isn't any conscious evidence evaluation happening, which is a huge part of the problem. If you care about what's true, you need to ask yourself what that evidence actually means and what conclusion it points to (i.e. evaluate it with some epistemic tool), not just automatically see it as evidence supporting your presupposed or desired conclusion.
I'm the witness. No wait I'm the lawyer...oh wait it doesn't matter...🫤
Who wants to tell him...
I am curious to how many buildings fell down in NYC on 9/11? lmfao
Funny thing is, if the “prophecies” were 100% accurate and exact, that still would not prove a God. It could have been done by a transdimensional being from an Outer Limits episode, an advanced extraterrestrial, and so on.
If you want a summation, Dave is going to court. Moses comes in, judge tosses him out because all he has is a torah - hearsay. Mohammad comes in, judge tosses him out because all he has is a Qur'an - hearsay. Dave comes in, Judge rules Bible because Bible.
Prophecies are fulfilled in the Hobbit. Does that mean the Hobbit is true?
I am desperately hopeful this jagoff Dave is not actually a lawyer.
How could you believe in academics doing active research today that can be reproduced and not also believe fairytale books from centuries ago.
Not working off a script what goes on to shuffle papers
I study law. You want a court of law to decide if god is real? Please do present the defendant (god).
On court, cool. produce the defendant of your god.
Dunning-Kruger shower thoughts and arrogance run amok. Dave needs to 1) Bounce his ideas off someone else (which he seemed he was trying to do but...) and 2) Be able to listen to someone other than his inner "genius". I think Dave spends a lot of time alone.
The Muslims, unlike xians or Jews, can actually point to the historicity of Mohamed, who was an actual historical figure. His very first point falls completely flat.
Cute
Before determining which god is the true god, maybe provide evidence that a god exists, or is even necessary.
Hey Dave from Missouri, have fun with your delusional life.
Archeological proof of god? Never seen it.
it amazes me when a thiest calls athiests infantile and not educated enough to understand them,
Did he start with the Koran because, by comparison, he's confident his case for Christianity isn't as bad as Islam's? 🤣
Dave: You won’t LET me present the case I don’t have! The bible is the claim and the claim is evidence of the claim. Useless.
It never makes sense... they call an atheist show with statements about science/biology etc. I'd ask, "why not go ask actual scientists?" but I think we all know why.
For all the whining theists do about prophecies, I haven't heard them bring up a single thing that can actually serve as a prophecy. But worse... even if they had thousands of actual prophecies that actually came true, that doesn't even hint at a god. It would just show someone was able to predict future events, not how they did it, not that it was supernatural, and certainly that the hypothetical supernatural means was a god.
Literally not even a minute into the call and this is incredibly stupid. Should we just let out every person convicted of murder because the dead body didn't come with instructions saying who committed the murder?
"Hey guys we got all these bones" "Pfft show me the instruction manual, then we'll talk." This is beyond stupid. I think he might ACTUALLY think having like documentation is the only indicator of whether something is genuine. Given that he believes the Bible ONLY on documentation, his position might actually be that stupid. And he might think the world is 6-10 thousand years old so maybe he thinks humans have always written things. I mean the sheer amount of layers of stupidity on display here is astonishing.
He said he was going to prove god exists. Massive fail.
11 minutes in and we’ve gotten nowhere…..
It's amazing how nice the atheist hosts tend to be to the nasty Christians that hate Jesus's teachings about the Golden Rule.
This was so annoying. Dave was digging himself a huge hole, so why did they keep interrupting him? It made them sound a bit desperate.
He was so irritating to listen to.
@capthavic
21 күн бұрын
Because he wasn't an honest caller, he came into it wanting to be hostile and disingenuous.
18 mins in and he’s trying to prove the Muslim God isn’t real, to two people that doesn’t believe in the Muslim God. Wtf
@nagranoth_
12 күн бұрын
well what he's actually trying to do is pretend "see? I agree with you, I care about evidence, I'll dismiss things if the evidence is bad, I'll even grant that the testimony in the bible is no good, do you believe I'm just as reasonable as you now?... ok, prophecies though" It's absurdly transparent from the start this is a bad faith script. I don't know how they keep convincing themselves this crap could ever work.
Just get the God of the Islamic / Jewish / Christian religions / faiths to turn up, otherwise no satisfactory evidence.
Ok, will this guy ever get around to evidence? Spoiler. None, zero, hell no.
David ~ *insults host Host ~ Don't insult us David ~ I'm not insulting you David ~ the bible is completely true, for the bible tells me so. I know you better than you do. My book is full of extremely vague prophecies that have come true