Regarding the 2 hour lore dump, if your game has that much lore, then write up a Google doc or something with all that lore. Then give players the basics during the first session and then players can read the google doc on their own time

@willropa4226

Жыл бұрын

Or, y'know, write a book. (Was writing this while Doge was talking, DM beat me to the punch.)

@rynowatcher

Жыл бұрын

I like L5R as a ttrpg, but you kind of have to have a good grip on the lore and world so you do not accidently offend a fire God or something. I generally make a bullet point doc that summarizes what is needed. You cam also do "fish out of water" scenarios to where you are just a uneducated or foreign person with no connection to the world (ie call of cthulhu). That way the player discovers the lore as the character does and you get it in bite sized chunks. Knowledge skills are also great for this, but it is unclear if the guy had them in his home brew.

@WTFisTingispingis

Жыл бұрын

"This could easily have been an email."

@jonathanfenton8695

Жыл бұрын

I've done that before. Nobody even read it and I still had to do a lore dump. For Forgotten Realms.

@LynxieDove

Жыл бұрын

Yesssss, that's what I was about to say...I mean I'm a writer and I love worldbuilding, and love reading other people's world building, but it's harder for me to process something that I'm just listening to.

For a minute I thought that the lore dump and Bed incident stories were intertwined and the couple from the first story got fed up with the DM advertising his mythos and f*cked on the DM's bed as revenge for wasting their time with the 90 min snore dump.

@travisbishop782

Жыл бұрын

I'm getting that feeling as well.

"With this character's death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created."

@theratking013

Жыл бұрын

That Message still pops up after doing the Mainstory and it followed me here...Azura is mad.

I vote burn the sheets and call a priest and exorcism the room

“Well, I mean … kitty” 👏👏👏👏👏 BEST. COMMENTARY. EVER!

Last story: Railroading DM needs a good Gibbs-style headslap

@shadiafifi54

Жыл бұрын

A better solution would be never to let him GM again unless he learns to be less of an ass.

@BurroughsProductions

Жыл бұрын

He warned the players repeatedly lol

@MadmanHelldiver

10 ай бұрын

I mean... they did receive several warnings from the only person who knew exactly where the hostages were.

The guy who let people he barely know have run of his house without him being there is insane

Turdkien as in Turd Tolkien, pretty fitting with that lore dump.

I knew a DM who would do this. He was the kind of guy you were better off not bothering talking with.

The only defense I can make for Turdkien: "ruffian rogues" actually do exist in PF2e - they're a subclass, like the scoundrel, the thief and the mystic trickster. Ruffians use better armor and use more weapons, and their core characteristic is strength rather than dexterity. Basically, they're brutes and enforcers. As I said, this is the only thing I can defend; the rest of what he did is absolutely unforgivable.

In the last story was the DM a sadist who only played video-games.

2 hours of lore should be a briefing doc that goes out with the build parameters, prior to Session 0. As for the bed use... If anyone is getting laid in my bed, I'm going to be one of them.

Aw yes. My prework horror story time. Im not ready for this title

My GM front loaded the lore dump in a separate Word doc, and even if you scarcely read it GM would let you catch up as you go.

you're my fav rpg horror story guy. other than the crab you're the only one i listen to. so chill, so wise, so dapper

One thing about the second story I don’t understand is the “Ruffian Rogue” comment. That is one of the Rogue Rackets (basically subclass). It’s basically Strength rogue and they focus on brutality/being the muscle. They’re actually super cool!

I had game like the last story, but instead our characters were locked in a room with small talking dragon. The dragon loudly exclaim how unhappy it was being stuck in this room. Naturally the party was like "Well if your unhappy why don't you join us?" ... We ended up spending 2 hours trying to convince the dragon to join us with no luck. We end up fighting the dragon and spent another 2 hours, as the bloody thing keep spamming heals. Finally after killing it the doors open and can level the room. Out of game I had ask what we had to say to convince the dragon to join us. The DM just goes "Oh there was no convincing it. You just had to kill it." If this wasn't on Discord I would of punched the DM.

Yeah, that last DM is similar to one I had before. I had a simple side quest and tried everything to solve the mystery. Followed all the leads, even the one the DM put out in front of me to find the stolen ship. Nope, it wasn't the right one and the DM fucked me over...for the last time as I left the game. Seriously. Any DM that lays out clues only to pull the rug out from under the players, I hope you roll nothing but nat 1's for the rest of your life, in AND out of character.

@Gripen1974

Жыл бұрын

I got a confession the last DM have been me in one or two different occasions, my only defense was one time i was over tired and had mental block so i couldn't improvise and the second i was to unprepared in ready bought adventure, but ppl who know me know it is the exception rather then the normal and after 35+ year of playing rpgs with the same group every one of the group have been the problem player and a sources of horror story.

Man the first OP is a piece of work... To be honest it is easy to see why the other were assholes when you see how he react to things... The kind of guy that tries to excuse his behavior just because he "is being honest!" when he just brutally tells that he does not care. Fun that he has the right to insult the DM but takes it seriously when someone speaks during his session... Man, everyone sucks but I do think that OP deserved it on that one... For the two other, sounds like bad DM mild horror :) Good to know that people like to complain for our entertainment. Thanks a lot as always for the good narration... Not usually writing comments but that entitled first OP really triggered me...

@ChuckPalomo

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, there's just something about his self righteous hypocrisy that makes you instinctively wanna tell op how much of an asshole he is.

@ss3nm0dn4r8

Ай бұрын

was this from another video this doesnt match

@Xuecnahc

Ай бұрын

​@@ss3nm0dn4r8I think this is the correct video. What the antagonist of the story did is pretty unacceptable but the way OP treats him is beyond my comprehension... OP was disrespectful and was talking down at his "friend" and then did not understand why they were doing bullshit during his session... Some people really have to learn some awareness... Or at least a bit of empathy... If he did then I am pretty sure the antagonists would not have crossed the boundaries. But maybe I am the one who is misreading the situation there? I do not have more context than the story that is presented.

What I do for lore dump is a 2 to 6 paragraph thing personalized per character via text before sessions. Then if there is a lot to know about the world, I make 2 to 8 page summaries of what could be found in libraries by anyone, and have it optional to read. This allows some context and basic world knowledge without overwhelming anyone that doesn't like that as much. So far, everyone reads all of it and love it.

Little Simba having the best face. Interesting Wednesday stories.

I used to be a Bandit Kidnapper...but then I took an arrow to the knee....and died

I've recently played a (non-tabletop) game in which an actual child was the clear boss of a gang which was mostly adult... but it worked out because it was a comedy: an adult character with some very childish passions and interests fell afoul of the "secret underworld organization" running the probably non-existent professional tournament bracket locally playing a children's game. The kid in question was deeply devoted to the game, had family money and connections which he used in a philanthropic way, and as a result had some "business partners" willing to occasionally play the roles of his "generals". The entire thing turned out to be a setup by one of the original guy's friends to make sure he stayed harmlessly occupied for a few days. ...When actual violence gets involved, using children loses its humour pretty quickly, though. And yeah, the idea that a mysterious unfindable bandit lord nobody's heard of has been untraceably making villagers disappear and is also holding them for ransom is pretty hard to believe to start with. In most settings, if bandits had the work ethic and competence to hide their tracks they'd be doing something which pays instead. I can see several ways that setup could be subverted - most obviously, by having Mr. Snotty have no connection to any of this and just be a random grifter passing through - and I can also see somebody coming up with the idea that making it impossible to save the villagers from the very start would help motivate and unite the party for the real campaign - but giving PCs the chance to act as heroes is kind of the point of most campaigns. If the alternative to railroading is being a dick, I'm going to hope it really was railroading.

The mighty Bandit Lord "Ido N.T. Remember"

Nothing players enjoy more than being overshadowed and outright beaten by 'superior' NPC versions of themselves! It must have sucked for the poor barbarian player.

The first/second story reminds me of the time my dad found used condoms (somewhat) hidden on the floor in my younger sisters bedroom from her previous boyfriend when she begged for him to spend the nights with us. They were both over 20 years old and the garbage was right there. He was toxic as heck. Anyway great video Doge, if I ever get a true horror TTRPG story (which hopefully won't happen) (and by true I mean a story that's not like the one that's more sad like the one I've had with my older sister if that makes sense) I'd want you to cover it.

While the problem players of the first story do sound like...a lot to deal with, OP's spiteful pettiness in the way they talk about the situation and how they handled it during and afterwards makes me think they really need to work on their conflict resolution and people skills. They sound pretty uptight tbh. Maybe some self reflection is warranted.

@TigerW0lf

Жыл бұрын

Even if that were true, they were still some seriously boundary breaking asshats who really showed no care or respect to others' hospitality

@patjacksonpodium

Жыл бұрын

@@TigerW0lf I mean I wasn't there so I don't know the vibe of the situation but a lot of the stuff OP rails about were...kind of minor IMHO? Like "He left soda bottles lying around" or "He didn't help with dishes!" or "She talked about work!" or "This couple I let share a bed had sex in said bed!" I mean, yeah, those might be annoying things but to completely slag someone afterwards over it by writing paragraphs to them about how they're the worst people ever is kind of overkill. And the venom I hear over all that minor stuff makes me wonder if anything wasn't blown out of proportion. Look, sometimes people just don't like other people. I've been there. It just happens. You can't stand this person and you have no idea why but that just send you places previously unknown. It's fine. That's cool. If you don't like them that's your business. I think that's what happened here. But if so, I'm certainly not taking that person's opinion what face value.

@GarkKahn

Жыл бұрын

@@patjacksonpodium in those cases it's either that or the actual reason is something he never says, maybe there was some other episodes more chaotic and this are just some powder leading to an explosion but not the fire that provoked it

@Metal_Horror

Жыл бұрын

Well his visitors were definitely terrible guests. I'm sure a couple of those things in isolation wouldn't have been a big deal. But when you put it all together it becomes something else entirely. Especially since you'd expect someone who is a guest in your home to be courteous and gracious about accepting hospitality. On the other hand, I had the same thought as you - I thought op not only handled the situation poorly but responded badly at the end. He doesn't tell his visitors about how he feels until afterwards. Then when they try to respond, instead of discussing it, he just blocks them. Now admittedly, if I didn't want to pursue a relationship with them I would've done the same thing. But if that's how he felt, you have to wonder why he'd be willing to invite them over for an entire weekend.

@ChuckPalomo

Жыл бұрын

I agree. While I can see how those things could've been very aggravating, they coiuld've easily been prevented with some adult conversation regarding basic house rules. If OP's highly biased version of the story was supposed to make me take his side it had the opposite effect, he just came off as a petty vindictive asshole all throughout.

What are the odds ccl would have crazy broken power in her husband's boring homebrew?

12:25 - The DM is the main character?! And with all of those insanely high stats!? WE'VE GOT A SIERRA!!!

If i let a couple sleep on my bed I expect that behavior. It's why i have mattress covers.

First/second one: common theme is the OP not addressing their complaints in a timely manner. House guest issues: some of these are reaching a bit. Standard for hospitality for me is "make yourself at home," so drinking all the soda, drinking whiskey they brought, bumping uglies, peeing with the door open, luring cats, and not helping clean up is not really things I would consider slights for house guests, personally. If these issues bothered the host, they should have addressed them in the moment, but the only one op says they brought up prior to kicking them was the leaving the door open to lure a stray cat in. Came off like they swallowed their feelings till they exploded. Game stuff: I do not get why you would sit through a 2 hour lore dump and not say anything till after the fact if you did not enjoy it. Some tables like a bit of "gm storytime" in my experiance, or make the lore interactive so that session 0 is a discussion where players can ask questions about the world to build characters that fit in. OP never says they tried to do anything in the other guy's game to get it going; ie, "it has been 10 minutes, can we get to adventuring?" He is live posting during the game too, which is rude in the best circumstance, but he is also doing it to call this guy out for being a bad gm. The only person who does not know there is a problem is the gm at the time of the first post, and when he finally brings up his complaints, OP only uses it to end the relationship (ie, "your game was not worth my time" is making it personal and not feedback you tend to give if you want to keep playing with someone). This is a horror story because OP is only bringing up slights as justification to end relationships. You do not have to hang around anyone you do not want to, but this story kind of makes OP look passive aggressive and like they are looking for an excuse to kick them.

While I agree the last DM should have improvised a backup plan, as a player, I definitely would have let that messenger leave. Why endanger the hostages? Ever hear the phrase "don't shoot the messenger?" Also maybe someone in the party could've attempted to follow him. That said, it doesn't excuse the DM letting him die from a shot to the leg, or not having a contingency plan, but yeah.

@Xylarxcode

Жыл бұрын

A messenger that had identified himself as the son of a bandit leader and openly admitted to committing crimes against this village. So you can see how the party would immediately view him as an important hostage of their own, both to extract information from and as a way to gain leverage of their own against the bandits. If he really was the son of the bandit leader, he must be worth a lot to him. It made complete sense to try and detain him and then move quickly to rescue the village hostages before they were sent off to a slaver. I would've done the same thing as a player. If you make your messenger *THAT* important, it just paints a big target on his back. If it had been a regular messenger, then maybe the party would have been more inclined to let him go and attempt to follow him back to camp.

Grab a cat and snuggle after some of those stories

Okay! The last story was bad because the gm was basically a jerk, but the 1st - 2nd story! 😱 OMG I would've kicked those slobs to the curb. Especially after such ungrateful guest, especially if op let them used their own bed!

I mean, I see as completely reasonable leaving the porch open mid-winter, a cat is involved after all.

I need that A simba R

"Violent wizard gang". LOL

OK so I'm a worldbuilder, and have a world with over 10,000 years of history. It has wars, factions, gods, heroes, the works. I have never done a loredump on my players like that. Fuck me.

Actually would love to see someone run a game filled with crazy drug addicts as they try to wrap themselves around a d&d game, Just setup a DM's screen in the 7/11 parking lot and offer them a character sheet and a doughnut

@rootfish2671

10 ай бұрын

I tried before with homeless people at my library they can't sit still, get bored and wander off

The last DM needs to remember the rule of three clues per mystery. And if even then the Players don't pick up on those but do something smart they should be rewarded. Sounds like he was just bitchy they got off his railroad.

@Xylarxcode

Жыл бұрын

He even killed off his own NPC in a nonsensical way, just to really rub that salt in the wound. The ranger specifically called for a non-lethal shot that was only meant to hobble a running target, yet it somehow killed him and ofcourse any healing magic they have that might stabilize him mysteriously doesn't work. It's a dick move. Very petty. The party only did logical things, yet the DM specifically went out of his way to screw them over, bent or broke his own rules to do so and then refused to give them another way back into the story. As a DM, you should *want* your players to play your adventure and give them a way back into it, if they mess up the first introduction somehow.

@thegreatcanadianweasel9928

Жыл бұрын

@@Xylarxcode Exactly, well said

I have the worst feeling about the anime used in the thumbnail Like It's Almost like the one dude's name is a dirty pun on the male anatomy

Notification gang.

Was that a Guga impression at the beginning of the vid?

I don't think you could take care of strays, doge.

I'd just bail on the egomaniac DM's game. It's all to likely to be a waste of time trying to talk things out with them.

Honestly the last story sounds like iy was the party's fault. Decisions have consequences. They werr warned they ignored it.

Wow. I would have burned those sheets.

In character or not, the dm at the end was right in what he did. The players ruined their own quest by not listening to the warnings. In character or not, they were still a warning.

@Xylarxcode

Жыл бұрын

Nah, man, you can't lock your players out like that. You gotta be ready for players to do things you weren't expecting and roll with the punches to put them back on track. It would have been easy to improvise a villager with information that put them back on track to finding the bandit camp. You can't just lock your players out of story progress because they did something that was incredibly logical to do for them. Not to mention, how does an NPC die from a shot that is specifically meant to be non-lethal and only hit his legs, with no magic being able to save him. It's a dick move. You should *want* your players to go on the adventure you made for them and if they sever one thread that leads into it, whether on purpose or by accident, you invent a new one to put them back on that track. Maybe give them a very light slap on the wrist for messing up your first hook, but you definitely can't have them running around for a solid fucking hour trying to find a new lead and sit there like a smug, smarmy asshole that has zero intention to work with them.

@frost68nskate

Жыл бұрын

@Xylarxcode the way I see it. There's specifically 1 person who came to town to set up the quest. That person was killed. Yea the dm was dumb in killing the guy when it was supposed to be non-lethal so he really did screw up there. An yes there should have been another way for the party to figure something out to further the quest. HOWEVER where I'm saying the dm is right is that the players need to learn that there are consequences to their actions even if that means the quest is now at a dead end. Unfortunately the whole situation was handed wrong from the beginning when the npc died instead.

@TheBones1188

Жыл бұрын

@frost68nskate If you're gonna punish people for engaging in your world outside of the way you want it to go write a book instead. It's not the consequences of their actions if the dm intentionally went against what they intended to happen and the rules of the book It's being spiteful. Especially when the dm walked that npc into a situation that would be more illogical for them to just walk away from. The dm saying if you harm me the villagers will be killed is weak writing and nonsensical to the highest degrees; the mayor talking to the party telling them to go is also weak and obtuse writing. The dm handled everything they could've wrong but you somehow still say they're right 🤷🏽‍♂️

The only thing I would be guilty of is going to the bathroom with the door open, I have had long term live in relationships and friends I have known all my life that would talk to me while I am in there on mic or in person so I forget thats not a "normal" thing people do. I am just too comfortable around people I guess. I wouldnt be bothered if someone else did it as I just see it as a normal bodily function. I only realized it was an issue after someone complained about it.

@informitas0117

Жыл бұрын

Hell, why not piss in a jar at the table! It's a normal bodily function after all! Yuck.

@gazblackheart4596

Жыл бұрын

@@informitas0117 I mean having a door open and pissing where you eat are vastly different situations and that is a pretty big exaggeration of what was said. Everytime you are in a public bathroom you hear others pee so I really don't see the big deal.

That's not a lore dump, that's lore constipation

Why would you let your gusts stay in your house unattended like that for what 2 days/ nights your asking and inviting bad things to happen to your house they are lucky that they only left a mess and phucked in their bed so much worse could have happened.

Honestly, in the first and second stories, OP sounds like an uptight wanker. It's your job to set the boundaries of what is and isn't ok with you. Quietly stewing in you own indignation and then letting it out in an angry rant is far more immature and toxic than anything the couple did. Also he invited a young couple to spend the night alone in his bedroom, what did he think was gonna happen? they were just gonna do each other's nails before going to sleep?

1st story: Which year happened this? There are pdf and google docs out there you know?! Dammit... 2nd story: Half of those things are really lame and the other is almost extreme, there's no mid term for the stuff going on there

2 hour lore dump? Wow So this guys satisfied with 2 hour cutscenes in gaming?

@DnDDoge

Жыл бұрын

*flashbacks to Metal Gear Solid 4*

@repetitiveDebug

Жыл бұрын

what a thrill

To be honest, everyone in the first story seems like an a-hole. Especially the OP.

I like good lore dump but 2 hours is just too much

The first story...like dude you can let players learn this stuff organically as they play. Only include important things like the mentality of society since if they are prejudiced against races or magic users ect thats important to know up front

Bro wrote a book and doesn't understand what an exposition dump is and why it's horrible. The book probably deserves to be burned.

Hey doge whats ur favorite pokemon

Worst. House guests. Ever.😑

@paulman34340

Жыл бұрын

Good god, I almost thought they were my sister and her husband! Those two are the same, especially at other people's houses (luckly the only thing that makes them BETTER is they don't "F" on other people's beds or act THIS childish refering to when OP mentioned CCC messing with that stray cat!) Thank GOD they rarely come over! But between them and my two nephews (who have the excuse of being under 10 and having two parents NOT teaching them manners!) it ends up feeling like a HUGE house party we weren't invited to happened, and we're left to clean the HUGE ASS mess! Our house goes from looking better then it should, to looking like a run down house that hasn't seen cleaning in the TWO DAYS THEY NORMALLY STAYED!) A blessing is she doesn't come around much! Sucks to not see my nephews (sad they only learned manners and such from ME THEIR UNCLE and NOT THEIR PARENTS! Thankfully at least my eldest nephew 6 isn't falling back into his parents slobby behavior and teaching his 4 year old brother who's autistic by the way how to avoid being a slob! Told him I'd get him something if I see he's cleaner then his parents! Got it right on me now in fact! I keep my word when I give it! Doesn't matter if I'm out of house and home to do it! I said I'd do it and I'll do it, ESPECIALLY if it's for my nephews and nieces LOL) And this can be blamed on my BIL as my mother was a CLEAN FREAK, so my sister SHOULD know better! But after being with him. She got "Fatter and ALOT more sloppy" she was never a fan of cleaning up (lazy) but good god! I'm lazy and I know how to keep hygenie good (she thinks just bathing, and clean clothes is enough to be hygenic! It isn't) Thier in their mid to late 20's by the way (me and the second oldest are 36 in my case and 31 in his! Baby brother and OTHER baby sister are 20. Thank God Baby sister and her husband are the exact OPPOSITE of the sister and BIL I'm referencing! My mother called it "Jabba the Hutt Table Manners" and yes she did NOT know about the term online! She's a fan of star wars which is why she referenced it as Return of the Jedi is her favorite!)

Ain't no one reading that

You invite a married couple to sleep in your bed, then get freaked when they have sex? They're married, the woman is already pregnant, there is no doubt that they are sexually active. So you have to wash the sheets after they've left... what? You weren't planning on doing that anyway? From the title I thought hey used the DM's bed without permission, this is a total non-story. The messiness is bad, but the sex on the bed isn't.

Am I the only one who doesn't fully understand why OP is upset that the married couple had sex in the room they provided them? I can understand feeling a way about it, really, but you really can't be that surprised. With that said, I'm with OP 100% on everything else. I'll give you a 50/50 on the sex in your bed thing. Wouldn't have done that in my own friends bed, to be sure. They should also have changed the sheets themselves.

@briaseis

Жыл бұрын

It has absolutely nothing to do with them being married and everything to do with a) that’s *not their house*, b) even with OP and their girlfriend gone, they weren’t the only people staying there, and c) it’s absolutely gross and unsanitary to both leave your random bodily fluids on someone else’s sheets and “tee-hee how funny of me” your way out of the conversation about it like it was something to be proud of. Even if it wasn’t a hygiene thing, it’s an etiquette thing imo? Or maybe a respect thing. I mean, the thought wouldn’t even cross my mind at all just due to my standards of what’s acceptable to do where, but at the very least they could’ve asked if sex was a no-go or not in advance. Ultimately they seem disrespectful in…literally all aspects, so I highly doubt the sex was a genuine “mistake” of a carried-away couple. It almost seems like the woman damn near let them sleep in the bed none the wiser and only thought to say something at the last minute.

Some of these horror stories have these markers that the person writing them is secretly the asshole and we're just hearing what they want us to hear. The second story... it sounds like they didn't like the consequences of their actions. The GM has to communicate through the NPCs sometimes to avoid metagaming. The bandit clearly stated 'if I don't return...' which is more of a hint than the players deserve if they're going to be so insanely reckless. They don't even know where the hostages are and they're using murder hobo tactics to try and find out instead of investigating, following the person, negotiating, et cetera.

@cvernon5256

Жыл бұрын

They did what you described. The bandit they spoke to only died because the DM was forcing the railroad. It's the same with no one knowing of local caves, there being no tracks, etc. The players opted to play rather than just have an on-rails journey. That's adventuring.

@immolated55

Жыл бұрын

@@cvernon5256 This is a bad take. Not only are you ignoring the fact that they immediately exacerbated a sensitive situation where lives were on the line (their characters treating it like a game, because their players know it's a game), but you're insinuating that 'adventuring' means the GM should compensate for stupidity instead of having them fail. Adventuring without possibility of failure isn't adventuring and they screwed up fast and hard.

@cvernon5256

Жыл бұрын

@Erik Scheol I'm treating *adventuring* as making your own path. And how they responded is one of many understandable ways. The DM definitely treated it like a game by making the fail state be immediate and arbitrary. There would have been tracks, the locals would know the area, the bandit wouldn't instantly die even from a severed artery. The players tried to save the captives but were constantly blocked. And sometimes players will do stupid things knowingly, like leaping off a cliff, jumping into lava, or fighting a red dragon unprepared. The players usually have a chance to correct course ( feather fall, resurrection magic, running away) but if the DM doesn't allow it they are stuck.

So for the op talking about the couple fornicating in his bed, unless he separated them what did he think was going to happen when he put a man and woman that were in a relationship into the same room?😅

People having Sex? The audacity! The nerve! You may have Sex only in me-approved places!

@patjacksonpodium

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, for real. Maybe don't rub it in their faces afterwards but, wouldn't you wash your sheets after someone else slept in your bed anyway? S/O's sharing a bed...wtf did they think might happen?

@chariotboi5061

Жыл бұрын

To be fair it wouldn't be that bad if the OP didn't paint the perfect picture of the most gross slobs doing the dirty instead of 2 clean healthy individuals.

@gr_pillar

Жыл бұрын

@@patjacksonpodium lying like mannequins with no motion. Probably like op and his wife *ba-dumm-tss*

@gr_pillar

Жыл бұрын

@@chariotboi5061 yeah! Only you- approved people are allowed to have Sex! All the others are to keep our gene- pool clean!

@cvernon5256

Жыл бұрын

They were guests in someone's home. They can abstain from intercourse for a night, which I imagine should have been relatively easy given her pregnancy. But given they aren't the owners of the house, they don't get to establish the rules. It's basic courtesy.

This second story is utterly gross. This OP is horrid, making mountains out of molehills.