“I thought better of you, Goodbye” *iPad dies* perfect timing XD

16:33 - "I'm doing my best to learn the rules and design of the game because I want to be a DM someday." - Know though, that once you start treading this path, there will be no going back for you.

Honestly it's not unreasonable to have a shorter backstory. Player in story 2 could have made a one page bullet point summary and kept the multi page backstory to themselves for character notes. It's what I do personally

@goncalocarneiro3043

Жыл бұрын

Yeah... I think it's reasonable to have a backstory be condensed into a few bullet points. That said, three pages also isn't that bad. It's worse than one or two pages, but it isn't a goddamn novel as some people have made it.

@unluckyone1655

Жыл бұрын

@goncalocarneiro3043 well some players do get a bit enthused about their characters. That I understand. But I can see why a DM would not want to thumb through pages of story to try to glean the important parts that they can incorporate into the campaign and would like to have a player simplify things with bullet points. I mean, to each their own

I am convinced that D&D and many other RPGs are the best therapy and practical exercises that many socially anxious people will ever receive. I say that as a married and older introvert. that said: The guy in the in-character-harem story was a line-stepper and a passive-aggressive creep.

@anonwilczek6044

Жыл бұрын

Idk, for me its like test, when you need deal with karen in work

@tarvoc746

Жыл бұрын

Playing D&D may be therapeutic for some people, but it should also go without saying that one should *never* actually treat it like therapy or one's DM or co-players like therapists, because they're really not that, nor are they in any way obligated to be.

@hamadul-shattan8899

Жыл бұрын

@@tarvoc746 You are prob right on therapy, but it's a great way to run practical exercises on non-extreme social interactions.

I had a GM like the TPK Twice story. Homebrew text based westmarches game all run by one guy. Was introducing the new big bad for the server with our team with many others just sitting in to enjoy the story. Thing is, he had a habit of giving out OP and broken abilities to players, so balance was a joke. So someone on our team that had God like powers that had up to this point just used them for gags and light utility, wants to use them to actually save all of our lives. GM gives the go ahead if they roll well( not thinking they would). So player proceeded to crit twice and instantly kill the enemy that was supposed to be the big bad for the next phase of the game. GM lost his mind and the game died after that.

Story 2: Hand him back the subsequent pages after page 1 and thank him. If ‘you’re a lazy gm’ comes up DM can reply with ‘you didn’t follow the guidelines’.

I feel like there should be like a DM beginner course for people to take to help learn what really is and isn't okay, help encourage rule 0, and that ultimately their ruling is law and that if someone is doing something that you banned/don't like like what the player did in the first story, they have the right to kick immediately or delete NPCs/backstory that isn't good.

TPK It sounds like the GM is the one causing issues because he keeps giving this item to Op.

@ChuckPalomo

Жыл бұрын

I don't know, you can't blame the dm for thinking "no one is stupid enough to fall for it twice". Metagaming or not at some point you have no one but yourself to blame if you knowingly use the thing that's guaranteed to cause a tpk. Also, who knows how many clues the DM gave op before his first and second mistakes.

What’s fucked up is that the last story sounded eerily similar to the situation my group and I were in. Well, we just ended up switching dms since one of the players was doing a majority of the writing so we have them as the Dm now.

RE TPK Twice: This sounds like DM fuckery above all else. That cursed item was tailor-made for OP's first character, it would have been pretty out of character not to succumb to it. Then the DM weedles the second character into using it through circumstances the DM made, and pulls the "oops, that unmarked rock was holding up the entire cavern, everybody dies" BS. Feels like the DM is blaming OP as a scapegoat to cover their own ass.

Dude acting like 3 pages would be like reading war and peace lol

First story This could have been funny… but then he had to be a creep about Op by forcing her to be a npc in his harem.

0:14 Message for a player who call a dm lazy got shorter backstory. " It is not so simple for a Dungeon master to read 250 pages of your character backstory of why they are edgelord/Merry sus of DnD " Also Hi Zaggie Thank you for brightness my day from a BS day I am about to have. ( I do apologize I spell and said your cat name work. )

@mikeharris6429

Жыл бұрын

It was 3 pages. It’s not like they wrote War and Peace. The lazy ass DM could have made their own bullet points.

@DominicEverlot

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeharris6429 I was talking about some of the players these days, I swear it is like a novel they are trying to read about their characters.

@DominicEverlot

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeharris6429 I was talking about some of the players these days, I swear it is like a novel they are trying to read about their characters.

@tsifirakiehl4250

Жыл бұрын

@mikeharris6429 Found that story’s problem player.

@easiestcc6451

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeharris6429 I think we found that story's problem player

"He had to shoot the dog" Doge: *Folk music stops*

The DM, with Evil Artifact Story was at fault there, i mean he used something as bad the Lich Kings Crown to "corrupt" one of his Players twice and he could narrated or/and gave that Player the Option/Idea to resist the Evil Item in the second Game afterall its the GMs/Storytellers Job to gave their Players some Options what they can do and not just expect his Players to do all the thinking otherwise a DM like that would be eaten/exploited by That Guys and Murder Hobos.

Story 5: I have to STICK it to that GM... he really knows how to GLUE ball his players with needless side quests. The players being afraid to speak against it is a STICKY situation. The only way he could make it worse is making this PAY-PER play! You see what I'm getting at here?

Yes because the talking artifact that wants you to kill someone is definitely not evil. Let's not forget that the artifact was found on a crashed ship with a dead crew.

When the CoC Keeper tries to run a space adventure

I cringed almost painfully at Player 1's description of his "Attendant" and I admit to being a shameless weeb who loves Tsundere characters. Instant kick really was the only option, followed by a shower!

The 2 TPKs story is weird to me. The first one? Yeah, that's on the DM. But the second character really saw murder as a valid option when an NPC was a bit uncooperative with his hijinks that really had no guarantee of working or not damaging the ship. Resulting the murder because of minor disagreements is a bit too murder hobo-y to be excused away as just the DM's fault.

Ill be honest, I dont think the DM in the final story will take any criticism well, given his petty and petulant response to the overpowered NPCs. Loot and magic items are surprisingly sparse in the 5e modules, one of the main issues they have, so that may not 100% be on the DM, since OP doesnt say what module is being run. And the "go here, do this" is another problem of those modules. But, a lot of the other things just make me think that the DM is either fairly new, or just bad.

I quit a game because of backstory too. The players where not going to write a backstory or if they absolutely insisted would suffer total amnesia.

Assuming the characters in the second story are level 1, the backstories is before you started adventuring. 11 points is a bit much.

51 seconds, wow I'm lucky

I like the voice you give this player.

People in the comments being mad about backstories is hilarious. If the DM only cares about "their" story and doesn’t care about what anyone else at the table wants to explore in game, it’s certainly not a DM that I want to play with. Personally, as a player, I work with my DM to create a character that works with their plans while also having some of my own and I keep actual written backstory under a page. As a DM, I expect the same from my players, and I absolutely require some type of connection to the world. Games without investment are boring at best and a nightmare at worst in my experience.

something tells me that if you don't learn the second time of the same exact thing, you are insane.

@mikeharris6429

Жыл бұрын

Yea that Op was just playing incredibly stupidly.

@marooniballooni03759

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeharris6429 more like the dm was a dumbass.

It wasn't the player who caused the TPKs. It was the DM. OP was NOT a "problem player," here.

It sounds to me that the DM from story 4 was the one who ruined his own games, not the OP

@damienhailey118

Жыл бұрын

Seems to me like the DM wanted the party to recover, but not use, the artifact, so another character could get possessed by it and become the BBEG. He didn't expect OP4 to get greedy. The second time, I kinda blame OP4 for. He says it himself: he wanted to kill NPC because NPC did not let OP4's character modify *NPC's* ship. OP4 KNEW that fucking with the artifact had a very good chance to end the game with a TPK right there, *and did it anyway*. I get the feeling this is less DM being a dick, and more DM having some very harsh contingencies and notes that OP4 kept running into by indulging in problematic(possibly That Guy) behavior. Think about it. The first time, his character got into by deliberately opening themselves to what they know is an Evil mind control device. Remove that TPK, and what do you think is likely to happen next? And in the second, they murder an NPC for not letting them have their way with the NPC's property. And in both cases, his defense is that it was what his character would do.

@brianvance1178

Жыл бұрын

@@damienhailey118 yea, but if the artifact wasn’t in the game to begin with, or it needed to be used in a ritual before it could be used at all, then maybe this shit wouldn’t have happened

@damienhailey118

Жыл бұрын

@@brianvance1178 OO, the player could have not used the Obviously Evil Mind Controlling Artifact for an Evil purpose. Not the first or last time a DM's plans got derailed because a player got greedy. Seriously, go over the story again, there is a LOT that OP4 leaves out, especially context.

You werent the problem player, the dm used an npc to antagonize you, and then directly incentivized you to kill him, and ended the campaign

To dnd doggie good day doggie and his adorable familiars.

Tbh the tsundere NPC was funny af

@YouW00t

Жыл бұрын

A little iffy and on the creepy side but still pretty funny.

OP in story 4 isn't the a-hole. The first time they had no control over it, and to TPK the party because one player interacted with one item is stupid. The second time having the player not interact with the item would be metagaming, and it's a bit of a dick move to tell the players to kill someone and then reveal that character to be essential to the plot.

First story: Oh, OP. Sweet, innocent OP. I admire your willingness to give second chances, but there’s such a thing as taking it too far! Why would you let him stay for a MONTH after that display of creepiness? (Just to be clear, I’m not blaming you for what happened in any way. It was definitely the problem player’s fault for squandering all those chances you were nice enough to give him.) Second story: How dare that player call OP lazy? Running a game for new players is a whole lot of work! OP asked their players to do one very simple thing. What kind of entitled baby can’t handle reformatting their character’s backstory? Third story: Uhhh… could that story have a content warning in front of it? I am NOT comfortable with stories of real-life animal murder, even if it was just a joke. Fourth story: You know, OP, I didn’t think I’d say this hearing the title, but you’re not the asshole! You aren’t even a problem player. Both of the TPKs were caused by the DM railroading your character. You did nothing wrong. Fifth story: As a DM who’s a bit sensitive to criticism myself, I say you need to politely tell your DM what’s bothering you in the game without insulting or attacking them in any way. If you’ve thought of any potential ways to resolve the problems, bring them up as well. If your DM’s not a total piece of garbage, they want you to have fun, and if you aren’t, they’ll want to know so they can do something about it.

@bluephoenix222

Жыл бұрын

The third story is pretty mild, there really isn't a need for a content warning for it... that's PG13 content at best.

@Qwerty95ish

Жыл бұрын

The story was called he had to shoot his dog. Were you expecting it to be about making a cake?

@tsifirakiehl4250

Жыл бұрын

I assumed it would be about a fictional dog in the game, since this channel is about RPG horror stories. I don’t appreciate being mocked for stating my discomfort with the possible murder of a real pet.

@bluephoenix222

Жыл бұрын

@@tsifirakiehl4250 Your discomfort is totally understandable, however your demand for a content warning is silly. We all see things online that make us uncomfortable, demanding content warnings for everything even slightly uncomfortable is what is turning the internet into weenie hut jrs. Not really a dig at you personally, just am I wrong?

@tsifirakiehl4250

Жыл бұрын

First of all, it wasn’t a demand, it was a request. Second of all, I’d like to know what your problem is with common courtesy. What is the worst thing you think would happen if there was a warning saying “This next story contains real-life animal death. If you want to skip it, go to this timestamp.” How would that hurt anyone? How would that damage the internet? It wouldn’t be telling anyone not to watch the story, and it wouldn’t prevent people from being able to handle it. It would only help those who, say, saw their dog die in front of them as a child not have to relive that memory and have a slightly nicer day. I didn’t think anyone other than cheesy cartoon villains thought being nice to people made them weak.

STRING PLEASE. YAY.

Whether it stings or not, the first story was evidence of karma

10:13 He was a troll

@robertwildschwein7207

Жыл бұрын

I don't even think, he was really a misanthrope.

Harem in fan fiction sone occasionally anima rosemary x vampire ok. In dnd and real life way more frowned on.

OP 3 definitely dodge a bullet but the sick dog didn't

Was that german i was caught off guard hearing my mother language in the beginning^^

@andrewbyrne2173

7 ай бұрын

German is wonderful language. Sadly I’ve lost my fluency in it.

Story 1: Ehhh.... I understand mixing a hobby and dating to some degree, since that basically guarentees that you'll have some common recreational activity, but there's a process to courtship that exists outside of the game for a reason. Interjecting it into the game to spur or explore such things is delusional. Story 2: I kinda feel like that guy was the asshole for writing a three page backstory, when DM explicitly asked for simple backstories. Forget changing formats after the fact. The guy wasn't following directions. Story 3: If you were friends outside of the game and knew each other IRL, this level of disclosure would be ok, but it's weird without any of that context. I'd drop him simply for the ideological discourses. Real Nihilists don't care if other people understand their reasoning for being a nihilist. Story 4: I kinda think that both the DM and player are at fault here. Player could have shown a modicum of restraint, but DM clearly failed to identify a chaotically aligned character.

He did what to his dog!!!

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I really hate the excuse that's what my character would do. At a certain point you were the one who decided to make a character like that so no it's not what your character would do.

2nd story is the incarnation of the meme: *_"Enough you idiot! Shorten this stupid story to 20 words or less!!!"_* 🤣

Second

@DrZombieMoogle

Жыл бұрын

I'll settle for 3rd

wtf lmao

OP may have dodged a bullet, but the dog didn't........

My players aren't allowed to come to the table with a background concept in mind. We build everything together. What is more important is what you're doing now. No I'm not tying in things from your backstory to make you feel special.

Man, despite being a Shiba, the Doge is really terrible at pronouncing Japanese words lol

Player backstories are the _worst_ . Look, nobody cares what you did before you pick up a sword, wand, mace, or thieves' tools. Your backstory? That's what happened in the previous session. "I'm Bob, I'm a fighter." "I'm Merlin, I'm a magic-user." "I'm Friar Tuck, I'm a cleric." "I'm Nimblefingers, I'm a thief." There. There's your backstories. That's what you're about. Your backstory is what you build at the table. Neither you nor I are a JRR Tolkien, let's move on.