"I was worried you wouldn't like it, and was prepared to convince you" = "I knew you didn't want it, but decided to do it even if you protested."

@Karmasu_L

Ай бұрын

This part showed clearly how much the DM would have given about OPs opinion on this.

@fmor2779

Ай бұрын

Had I heard that sentence, I wouldn't even bother to tell the DM and the group I am leaving, I would have ghosted them. Normally I wouldn't do that since I consider it very rude, but considering the whole situation I would certainly not judge anyone for throwing the manners through the window. I am still baffled that OP lasted 6 years! I hope OP is in a better group now.

As someone playing a Bard that constantly feels useless in battle, the pregnancy story hurt my heart.

forced pregnancy is always the fucking worst shit. absolutely vile behavior.

@thephantomspectator407

Ай бұрын

Truth! Ruins every 'urban/fantasy/drama" series too! "Black London", "Dexter", the "October Daye" novels... parenthood RUINS previously established characters!!!🤮

@LUIGIYO5555

Ай бұрын

the moment a dm ever pulls out the forced pregnancy card, i'm just leaving the campaign

@jrytacct

Ай бұрын

​@@LUIGIYO5555 Yes! I'd be out, right then and there. In fact, I'd shred my character sheet right in front of him on my way out the door.

@LUIGIYO5555

Ай бұрын

@@jrytacct I wouldn't rip my sheet to shreds A. I'm definitely reusing the character cause they deserved better B. Bastard of a dm doesnt deserve such a spectacle

@jrytacct

Ай бұрын

@@LUIGIYO5555 Well, it's not like I wouldn't have a backup on my computer at home. 🙂 It's more to make a point that I'm out and my character is out. And we're not coming back - ever.

DM in the second story was absolutely convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that he was writing a book, and was very surprised when the character he barely wrote about (that was played by a real character) didn't like getting sidelined as an optional secret objective.

The last story made me think so much about The Forgotten Paladin, and I feel just as much rage on behalf of the OP here as I did for the Paladin OP of The Forgotten Paladin. No chance to shine in the entirety of the game, neutered by the DM, and probably mocked by the rest of the party, just leaves someone with a massive ulcer in their stomach and a disdain for TTRPGs as a whole, and rightly so

I wonder if OP was the only female character. This reeks of misogyny.

@cursedalien

Ай бұрын

Honestly I was thinking the exact same thing...

@suitdoggy4707

Ай бұрын

Yea I kinda assumed this with her first gained ability being MARRIAGE and the second being PREGNANCY. As if the only thing a female bard is good for is being a baby maker. The way I would have left immediately after the marriage bs!

@devdanlouisspurlock4726

Ай бұрын

It's definitely cringe

@devdanlouisspurlock4726

Ай бұрын

As a male player who plays both female and male characters. I would have no problem leaving because of the under handed bullshit the dm was playing. I get that npcs are crucial to the story but so is the players and it's up to the dm to balance it out which they failed miserably. The fact that one player didn't. The only thing I didn't agree what the op did was lie about their feels to the party and dm. All that did was just reinforce their bizarre story telling. Communication is key if the dm/party can't be reasoned with leave that simple.

@sageisokay1689

18 күн бұрын

I was about to comment the same thing. it would be ironic considering that this campaign was based on Dungeon Meshi which (at least from what i've heard, I haven't actually watched the anime yet) is probably one of the least sexist anime out there. Like if this was a Death Note or Fairy Tail based campaign, it'd still be shitty but at least it'd make some sense

The second story was plain targeting, and nothing else. The DM was awful.

@EternaMidnight

Ай бұрын

It honestly made me wonder if the DM was sexist and didn't think female characters were allowed to become heroes too, especially when he resorted to making her pregnant which she didn't want...

@marybdrake1472

Ай бұрын

@@EternaMidnight It's possible.

@JennaArgent

Ай бұрын

​@@EternaMidnightthe two 'abilities' she got were marriage and pregnancy. That's 100% what I think it was. Curious to know if the other players were male or female.

That last story, all for a secret ending? Like if it was some kind of video game that if you collect all the pine cones or eggs they get to unlock the "true ending"? Probably the baby gets to be king or something with all the powers as the DM narrates how awesome they are. A baby the OP did not want and explicitly stated did not want to be pregnant. All for a f-ing secret ending.

@jampine8268

Ай бұрын

"Pine cones or eggs"? King Dragon sends his regards

@dalejhunter1

Ай бұрын

Didn't think of it, but it is very likely that the "secret ending" was just a throwaway to hide his "I just don't like you" attitude.

@brandealda5868

Ай бұрын

​@@jampine8268'ARCHIBALD NO!'

Easiest way to mess with players who are looking up monsters is to tweak the monsters. Yeah this is a emberblood troll so it's actually immune to fire. Might be good to see how cold damage works on it.

OP in the last story should've left that game immediately after the end of the first campaign. No amount of good role-playing is worth having your character be treated as less than the damn NPCs.

feels bad. Feels really bad just hearing that story. To be denied what they made the character for and then have the one thing forced on her that they didn't want. Only to go out with a whimper.

First story: There’s giving her leeway because she’s new, and then there’s letting her walk all over you. If someone does something stupid because they’re new to the game and presumably don’t know better, you don’t just let them keep doing it; you politely explain to them why they shouldn’t do it so they’ll know better for next time. I don’t understand how May lasted as long as she did in this game. I would have kicked her if she kept behaving badly after having it explained to her that this wasn’t acceptable. (I would also have given her a hard no on that backstory unless we were starting at a very high level, which this group clearly wasn’t.) Second story: OP, why the heck did you stick with this campaign? I would have left as soon as the DM blew me off when I complained about being sidelined. Even if I stayed through that, I wouldn’t have stuck around for a second season of this nonsense. AND THEN YOU TOLD HIM YOU LIKED HIS IDEA FOR SOMETHING YOU MADE CLEAR EARLIER THAT YOU DIDN’T WANT? For fuck’s sake, OP! How did it take bullshit instant death for you to stand up for yourself? You deserve better than this!

@ss3nm0dn4r8

Ай бұрын

Fomo is a hell of a catch 22 situation

You know, the second story makes me wanna ask.... anyone here ever had a RPG game where the bard ended up doing something absolutely EPIC?! and I don't mean silly stuff like seduce monsters, I mean actual badass big thing like being the chosen one for a prophecy or dealing the killing blow to a demon lord.

@ArmitageShanksuk

Ай бұрын

Our College of Swords bard is strength based and all about throwing spears - he has one that has the returning property on it. For one of his magical secrets picks he took the Ranger spell Lighting Arrow (spell name correct?) and absolutely MVPd an encounter with it. Only the DM knew he had the spell at that point. Manditory "Along came Zeus" memes were shared in Discord.

THE ALGORITHM MONSTER SHALL SMILE ON THE DOGE AND BUFF HIS PRESENCE! Okay, the awful GM probably won’t let my yelling power work but nothing ventured nothing gained.

Intro: Awww, hey Luna and Lucky. Story 1: Uhh... wow. Spotlight hog and we escalated to murderhobo. What a weird beef to have with Bard. Story 2: Oh god, this story. A series of BS from the DM. DM license revoked!!

Making a character pregnant after specifically being told not to do it. A clear lack of respecting boundaries.

Forced pregnancy? "F-this-S, I'm out!"

Story #1 - Oh, yeah, Red Flags galore. Mary Sue Wannabe, basically, people that test a DM - use of the word "NO" and fully enforcing rules being essential. Thank the ghods she's gone. I have trouble understanding how such people can even exist. Story #2 - I put most of this on the DM for failing to listen to OP's feedback, using such a stupidly random system and for obviously disadvantaging OP compared to the other Players. But there are things that I think are ALL on OP. The DM seemed not very receptive to what she said, but I get the strong impression that OP did not push all that hard, and she really should have. That entire pregnancy thing seems a prime example of this. Instead, OP suffered in silence for six years, until the final straw. She stayed, when she probably should have looked for a better game at least 5 years before. She was (mostly) silent when she should have said something. Loudly. When she did say something, she lied. That DM was insensitive and biased (though the latter MAY have been at least partially unintentional), but one thing he was not was a mind reader.

@starkiller1289

Ай бұрын

DM had to be bias there is no freaking way you give all but one player awesome things consistently and the lone player is made the butt monkey of the party for literal years. Don't know why OP didn't leave or share their grievances with the rest of the party even if they thought the dm would blow them off if directly confronted.

@dalejhunter1

Ай бұрын

@@starkiller1289 Communication, ironically for a social game like DnD, is a foreign concept to most of these OPs. That and common sense.

@suitdoggy4707

Ай бұрын

@@starkiller1289 Yea I get letting it go on for a week or maybe at most a month. But 6 years is almost a decade wasted on constant mistreatment. Op must be young or just lack a proper back bone. I’m glad they finally left since it’s never too late to change. But god only knows why they stayed for so long.

I don’t understand how the BBEG could actually remove the morale buff without directly diminishing said morale. The buff was to dice rolls, right? That’s not an in-character thing and is completely controlled by the DM, so this situation should be impossible. This is just the DM being an a$$hole.

"I'm going to go ham!" I'm woefully unhip, so what does "going ham" mean?

@Jean-Luc_Renard

Ай бұрын

It's a less vulgar way to say going apeshit. Throwing a tantrum. Making a scene.

@mobilemo8070

Ай бұрын

Like going berserk or about to cause a lot of chaos.

@cozykomala

Ай бұрын

Buck wild, going stupid, etc. Lol

@Puma20

Ай бұрын

Hammy acting ... so probably a wannabe Deadpool .. 😅

@kaylawoodbury2308

Ай бұрын

Pretty much what the first two said, "going ham" is the same as "going wild" "going hard" "going buck wild", etc etc. it's more of a millennial era slang.

The samurai feels like a dwarf from Warhammer with her "that's going in the book" mentality

Who ever thought bosses with one-hit-kill attacks were a good idea?! Hell, if the dice went poorly enough, the ENTIRE PARTY could have bitten the dust before that fight even started! Why would any sane DM *do* that?!

@gnollsuwu3861

Ай бұрын

I mean it's a cool idea in theory, but not usually great in execution. Sans from undertale kinda comes to mind with a crazy op attack at the opening of the fight but you get to restart after every fail and it feels good once you get the opener down, but it never translates well in blind playthrough games where one death may be the end of the game lol

@suitdoggy4707

Ай бұрын

@@gnollsuwu3861 It definitely doesn’t work with a big battle in dnd because you can potentially lose half or even most of your team and still be required to fight the boss. Like the battle is already going to be a hard one. Crippling the party before anything even started is just straight cruelty.

21:32 To be fair, it's selection bias. It's a combination of "if it wasn't messed up, OP wouldn't be posting it" and "you, the narrator, personally selected this story to read to us".

@ArcCaravan

Ай бұрын

True. Oh so true.

Second story OP is a living breathing doormat irl. 6 years… damn…. Imagine being that susceptible to peer pressure.

Oh COME on! More forced pregnancy? Lol

@dalejhunter1

Ай бұрын

Doge lampshades it, but what is it with these games having some jerk forcing pregnancy without consent?

bruh, i felt bad for asking to play a half-kenku (half human, half kenku, with an appearance similar to a harpy in that his arms are feathery and his hands are talons, same for legs, you get the gist) i wouldnt even THINK about asking for custom everything.

That DM really sucked, op should have left prior to the second campaign.

so i found the post for the 3rd story and my god the pally from that game is trying everything on a burner to shift the blame onto OP for the campage going bad.

A new player who wants to play a custom class, race, etc.? Not on my watch. All the red flags were there before they sat down for their first session. If, as a DM, you want to allow such a player you have to have a firm hand and *immediately say no to anything and everything they do that is out of line.* They'll either learn to play fairly and as part of the group or will rage quit.

@TheLevantin

Ай бұрын

I remember my very first time using pen and paper. We played The Dark Eye (Das schwarze Auge) and I had no idea about anything, but I also wanted to play a character that I modeled after an anime character with homebrew skills and everything. It's very cringe when I think back.

@dwaynejackson551

Ай бұрын

If the player can work with me to make balanced stuff they want them I am all for custom as long as it's fair.

@dwaynejackson551

Ай бұрын

@@TheLevantin I make anime characters all the time. I just keep who I am playing to myself and I also make sure I don't step on toes.

@tsifirakiehl4250

Ай бұрын

I wouldn’t call homebrew a red flag. My rule as a DM, ever since my first campaign, is that if someone wants to use homebrew, I have to read and approve it first. Blindly approving homebrew is just asking for an overpowered monster of a character, but some homebrew things can work just fine. In my first campaign, I had a monk with a homebrew subclass, and they weren’t a problem at all. My current campaign has a fighter with a homebrew race, and she’s the opposite of a problem player.

@fred_derf

Ай бұрын

@@tsifirakiehl4250, writes _"I wouldn’t call homebrew a red flag."_ For me it's a red flag when a new player wants to homebrew everything and they know literally nothing about the setting or the game-style being played. And note, a red flags are warning signs, not disqualifiers.

I was playing a 3rd ed campaign where the GM constantly neutered my character. I would come up with combinations of feats and abilities that would get the party out of crazy situations, especially combat, and as a counter he would not only make the encounters tougher he would flat out say the feats didn't work. In particular he hated tactical feats. Tactical feats all required set up and were situational. Instead of not making the situation harder for me to set up he would just say the feat didn't work. So I asked him to let me take another feat if it's never going to work but he said "no you picked the feat so you're stuck with it." He then turned around and made every NPC that we encountered hostile and they all had the feats that he basically banned us from using and they worked perfectly. The same character specialized in two-weapon fighting so he had a dragon place an infliction on her so that one of her arms just flat out didn't work. I figured that it was some sort of curse and since my character also had a pretty high intelligence she multi-classed into Wizard. At 3rd level he cursed her so had a significantly lower chance of learning magic. By the time she was 10th level she was so nerfed that she was practically unplayable. The final straw was when I missed a session and came back to find that my character has been kidnapped, assaulted and managed to escape but due to some time portal shenanigans she was 6 months pregnant. He couldn't understand why packed my bag, ripped up my character sheet and then left. Over the next couple of months most of the other players left and his game collapsed. This guy was a serious piece of work. I took combination of feats to enhance my magic and when he argued that it wouldn't work so we reached out to WOTC for rules clarification. One of the designers actually answered our questions directly on the forums and his response was "He's wrong." The group was like "dude he helped right the rules." His response was "Yeah and he's still wrong." I should have left then but I guess I was a glutton for punishment.

Seriously, where's the "preggo D&D game" for all these crazies? There's quite so many of them in these stories 😂

yeah that last story was a real bummer for op. like imagine if you got to play a biblical character and all your friends get to play Jesus or the angel Gabriel and you just get stuck with the virgin Mary.

For story 1: the last time i had a chance to play D&D, I did look up the monster we were going to meet next session (it was a drider) because i was genuinely curious. The DM had mentioned that we didn't HAVE to kill everything in the dungeon, and i was excited to learn that they spoke elvish, same as my character. I was hoping that my character would be able to understand the muttering of the drider, and go from there. I had no intention of metagaming, but unfortunately we never got to the next session...

I feel like if I were to waste 6 years of my life on a campaign like that I would quit dnd forever

The idea of a character drawing power from words is interesting. A style of socerery maybe. Could be refined with time but not something to dump into mid game.

OP (the one who got forcefully impregnated) should've name dropped the DM honestly so other people can become aware not to ever run with him

I absolutely hate that background at 27:23 I keep seeing leaves blowing out of the corner of my eye and think a bug is on the screen

Honestly doge, "A bit peeved" sounds like a gross understatement. 💀 I get that YT wants y'all to be politically correct and all, but this is ridiculous. Show some emotion, damnit! Call this outrageous bullshit for what it is. 😤

@mirandapanda5439

Ай бұрын

KZread allows you to cuss I think 30 seconds after the start of the video lol

On the it's about me sorry, I honestly feel like a good number of the last of offenses is just normal roleplay. Without going back the only ones I can speak on, "howdy partner" is a red flag? Wut? "And your subclass should not affect how your character acts" wtf? Yes it absolutely does. There were others that just struck me as weird and overbearing, but I'm not going back to bother with it. Don't get me wrong. Player bad. They are terrible in most ways. The homebrew, the murder hoboing, the actual main character syndrome... but dm seems rigid and unfun too.

Honestly it sounds like a railroading DM with a weak-willed PC, the WORST combination. They both suck. 'Cuz it sounds like the DM made a good campaign, and that the PC literally just went along with it and never actually said "I don't like this. Your story is good, my part is bad." This is stupid. The DM saw this PC as the "hey here's the secret ending" thing. Also knocking the PC out at the BBEG is stupid...but the fucker said they literally dropped the call. There's NOTHING to say that the DM wasn't going to have some way to bring them back. Context is janky at best. Sounds like bad PC mixed with railroad DM, which will always end up in a train wreck.

@caoskhimera6953

Ай бұрын

I'm the op of this story and yeah, I guess me being weak-willed is true, but I did complain to the dm throughout the campaign multiple times so he knew what I really wanted to happen to my character. I did left the discord call and you know what he come up with to bring me back into the fight? He gave a 9th wish spell to another player, basically yet again my character wasn't going to be the one being cool but the other player and even if I did accept that, that spell is better being used to defeat the BBEG and later ressurect me. The dm did write a good campaign, everyone was having fun and only me and my character were being treated like shit. I know I should've been more aggressive but I had faith in my dm, since he said again and again that he wanted to reedem himself and I saw with my very own eyes how good he can be so there was that. Some people said that the dice gods were being merciful to me and honestly I think that too, if I were to discover in game what he had planned for me right at the end and ONLY at the very end, I would have raged so much. I answered some of the questions on the reddit post.

I think as a compromise for the person wanting to get bonus damage for shouting things is to make them a paladin and the extra damage is just their smites. If you want to go homebrew, maybe adjust the Battlemaster to allow them to spend extra dice to deal more damage.

@ArcCaravan

Ай бұрын

Most I'd offer is flavoring that as a battle cry.

@dorianleakey

Ай бұрын

I think their concept was to lose an action to gain extra damage next round, but they thought X4 to hit was worthwhile.

The last story is a DM fetish story.

Now I'm actually starting to feel how these pregnancy tabletop horror stories are becoming nore common. I feel incredibly bad for that bard player getting outshined by NPCs and party members with her existence being only an incubator for some "chosen one". I'd be tempted to walk away with sheet while saying the character ended and the DM can preserve the spawn in the unliving body due to their magic pregnancy rules.

@solosynapse

Ай бұрын

Yea, it's extremely creepy and gross. Nobody should have to put up with that sort of nonsense.

Bard e story, my first thought is.Have you talked to your GM about what you like?And don't like am.Why are you staying?If you have that it's not saying to anything. Then I got to the point where they said they lied about enjoying stuff and I realize This is a self perpetuating people pleasing problem

@ketrava0425

Ай бұрын

This is not victim blaming but more so understanding that no dnd is better than bad dnd. The player should have tried to talk to the gm, which they did, about what they liked and didn't like and what they found acceptable. If the GM didn't listen. They should have left the game.

@ketrava0425

Ай бұрын

Holy crap a waste of six years on that. Good lord people learn your worth and tell bad storytellers where to shove it and that maybe they should write a book instead of running a game

That DM in the second story is garbage. Forced pregnancy is the cringiest thing ever. Didn't even try to help that player.

i start to think that most of the DM have some kind of pregnancy fantasy or something why does always has to be a forced pregnancy on a fucking Dungeons and Dragons story

Kitties❤️

Doge I notice that too in the dnd AI character app I have. For some reason - if I roleplay with a female character AI and I play a male character - the AI is hellbent on having sex and getting pregnant in 8 out of 10 cases.

@karisasani7006

Ай бұрын

The other two times they do something else?

@monikasernek1177

Ай бұрын

@@karisasani7006 She (the AI) tried to kill me in one time and in the other - she put me in a arena to fight for my freedom, but what do you expect from a lawful evil character.

felt really bad watching the pregnancy story because i can definitely see myself in that player's situation. had something similar happen to me, so i'll sum it up here if anyone wants to read it- TLDR; i spent 2 years of my life playing in a game where i was less relevant than one-off background characters that would appear every once in a while, just like the person in the main story in this video. had a group of close friends i had played in two campaigns with before, we all knew each other very well and... well, skipping that part, let's just say i was a complete throwaway npc in that campaign. in my first session, i (a sorcerer) was sent against a homebrew monster with antimagic field which not only decided to target me over anyone else in the party in the first round of combat, also petrified me before i could have my turn- so for the rest of my first session, i couldn't do anything. no roleplay, no attacking, no nothing. i didn't get a chance to do even a single turn to show the party what my character was capable of. and, sincerely, it was like that every other session i had in it for another 2 years. in roleplay, no one really cared about my inputs. i could participate in sessions and say/do nothing the entire session and no one would care, nor at least try to interact with me. when i did try it, i was shut down almost every time, or just responded with cold answers. during battles, no one really needed me. our paladin could tank everything, do damage, and heal, whereas our rogue would do the most dps of the group with just a single action, and our fighter also did the same. whenever they needed spells, they just looked over to the paladin aswell, and really the only thing they ever needed of me was the teleport spell to skip descriptions of hours of travels. sincerely, i never felt entitled to having anything handed to me, but feeling "left behind" and "unneccessary" is something i could deeply relate to that person's story, and it's why i decided to vent this out. everyone else seemed to get cool things, traits, development, etc. and even the new player we had later on- a ranger, who got a lot of things and development on their character just in their first month into the game.

@dorianleakey

Ай бұрын

How did this get resolved? Did you ever let them know how you felt? Was there any resolution? Did the campaign just end, or did you leave?

@chomy13

Ай бұрын

@@dorianleakey i ended having to leave the group due to a drama with the dm and the players out of game (aside from the paladin, we still play together to this day in much better games) but its all good. if you wanna know a resolution, the ranger and rogue basically made a couple through the game (a red flag by itself) and broke up a year later. from what i know the campaign fell apart after i left, and they never ended up reaching the climax. thankfully, due to being forced to leave the group, i was able to cut these people from my life and actually enjoy other campaigns with better people now.

Story 2 is frustrating, because it's like, defend yourself at least once while things are happening please? If you never stand up and say that you don't like something then you have no right to complain. We aren't the ones who need to hear this, your dungeon master is.complaining after the fact isn't helpful. You have to call the person out at the table. Maybe the op thinks they defended themselves, but I don't see it at all.

first story major main character syndrome, just wants to be the mary sue good at everything OP character that always gets the attention.

2nd story, major no for me! I'd make it clear that no means no

I get to experience the horrors early yippee 😂😂

Story 2: The race of monsters that live in the dungeon are Xenos? I think op just played in some discount version of Danmachi.

@EternaMidnight

Ай бұрын

They said it was based on Danmachi near the beginning

@1danysane

Ай бұрын

@@EternaMidnight I missed that part. 😅

"My hands were +1, which is completely useless for a bard." Nonsense. Bards can do many things with those magic fingers.

Hey - we got a new look at Luna, yep Doge - an indoor kitty she is now and we're all happy for that.

What if I were to tell you the pregnancy story is an example of both a crappy DM and a crappy entitled player?

@EternaMidnight

Ай бұрын

I don't really think it was entitled of her to want to be treated the same as the other players 💀

@bayardkyyako7427

Ай бұрын

How is the player entitled? Because they got shit every single time they got abilities except 2 or 3 times? While the others got god-like abilities, also none of the other players got forced pregnancy just for being women for a "secret ending".

@ArcCaravan

Ай бұрын

I think you mean entitled players. Plural, since they got to be demigods loved by all while OP just got to be a "living to hit bonus" with bonus incubator.

Some peoples kids lol

The dude was a prolife weirdo