Greg Thomas

Greg Thomas

Tom tuning 101

Tom tuning 101

Drum stuff: a few 5s and 7s

Drum stuff: a few 5s and 7s

Extra-large Zildjian hi hats

Extra-large Zildjian hi hats

Remo Rototoms

Remo Rototoms

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  • @mattf.3124
    @mattf.31247 күн бұрын

    Hi Greg, Have you experienced any issues with not only playing this plugin, but also with the download process? I also use Alternate Mode products , including their DITI. You seem to be triggering the software quite well. However, I have seen some other reviews which were NOT played in real time; the people who published their videos had multiple complaints. They were not demoing the software; nor, with the DITI. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle7 күн бұрын

    Yeah, the download process for the plug-in was a bit of a pain, if I remember correctly (though it's been a while!). I think I couldn't figure out how to actually find it in the Roland Cloud Manager. And when I did, I think it took multiple tries to actually download it and install it successfully. There have been a few other bugs as well. For example, it always forces my DAWs (Logic Pro and Digital Performer) to rescan all the plug-ins when I launch the DAW. Also, sometimes it crashes, like when I'm replacing a sound in one spot or another on the virtual kit. I don't recall any problems playing it using the DITI. ...Though the DITI had a steep learning curve as well. But most of my issues about the DITI revolved around setting and training the hi hat. I don't think I've had any issues with any plug-ins in particular. What kinds of problems are you having? I can see if I can re-create it.

  • @mattf.3124
    @mattf.31246 күн бұрын

    @@schmargle Thanks for the reply & info. I was about to buy it to use with my Alternate Mode products, but I read a few other people here stating they had considerable issues. But , they were not playing it in real time; nor with a DITI. I have considerable experience with the DITI and that's why I reached out to you. One more question: being that it's been 7 months since you published this, did you buy the initial SoundWorks r1.0 ? I read somewhere that they have issued at least one update; I'm wondering if your DAW system conflicts and crashes were potentially related to the very first release...??... Have you had positive response with the Tech Support team at Roland/DW? I appreciate your feedback - I 'm trying to avoid the time and expense regarding difficulties with a new VST as well as being a non-refundable purchase. Thanks again....

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle6 күн бұрын

    @@mattf.3124 I did buy the initial version, v1.0, but I've since updated twice. And actually, it looks like there's another new update available, v1.0.3, so I'm currently downloading and updating. The crashes I had were not when I've been playing, only when I was trying to replace a sample in one of the kits, I think. I tried to replicate the crash just now and couldn't, so maybe that's been fixed...or maybe I just haven't remembered exactly what caused it. Not sure. And yes, the support team at Roland was very helpful when I contacted them after v1. The only real issue that remains is that my DAW always rescans all the plug-ins. I had hoped they would somehow figure out a way to fix whatever is causing that, but they don't seem to have unless this new version somehow cures that. It's also possible that I need to completely uninstall and reinstall again-I think I tried that early on but haven't in a while. I also think the Roland app where you download the plug-in is a bit wonky. Sometimes downloading gets stuck on "queued" and never quite downloads. But you don't have to interact with it often. So, the short answer is: it's not yet perfect, or at least it wasn't through v1.0.2. But I still enjoy it. None of the issues I've experienced have stopped me from using it or playing it in real time (which is how I pretty much always use it).

  • @mattf.3124
    @mattf.31245 күн бұрын

    @@schmargle Thanks for your quick replies and helpful information; greatly appreciated.

  • @Monsterdrumma
    @Monsterdrumma14 күн бұрын

    Wow these sound great! I may have to grab a set of rotos, I love their crystal clear pure tone!

  • @alanduncan1980
    @alanduncan198017 күн бұрын

    If I had to pick one, it would be the first of the two K Cons.

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle16 күн бұрын

    Yup. It's a good one.

  • @Monsterdrumma
    @Monsterdrumma19 күн бұрын

    Again I like them favorite to least favorite in the order you played them.

  • @Monsterdrumma
    @Monsterdrumma19 күн бұрын

    I like them from favorite to least favorite in the order you played them.

  • @ralphbenites1312
    @ralphbenites131222 күн бұрын

    I’ve got some remo roto Tom’s from the 70’s or 80’s a friend of mine found them at a landfill were he work’s and clean them up and it’s tuneable.

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle22 күн бұрын

    Great find!

  • @alanduncan1980
    @alanduncan198025 күн бұрын

    If I had to chose one, it would be the K Con.

  • @enginufuk
    @enginufuk28 күн бұрын

    First time watching you. you have a wonderful touch! 👍

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle28 күн бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @raymondkarlsson9794
    @raymondkarlsson979429 күн бұрын

    Good demo. The Pre-Aged and the K Constantinople would fit better in a little softer situation.

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle29 күн бұрын

    Definitely.

  • @Dan-hc1ow
    @Dan-hc1owАй бұрын

    Can't beat the 80s and 90s Ks.

  • @tobyvattilano7846
    @tobyvattilano7846Ай бұрын

    New beats have a tighter lathing which lends itself to touch more glassiness. The wider band lathed K offers a meatier stick but at a drier clip and at the expense of some tone IMHO. New Beats all day

  • @clarknova7331
    @clarknova7331Ай бұрын

    Echoes of the drum sound on Pearl Jam’s ’W.M.A.’ Around the 2-minute mark. Love it! I use Skyntones on my regular toms, but have always fancied Roto toms after seeing Queen’s Roger Taylor use them. Would never have thought to pair them up! Great vid 👍

  • @jasonshort1437
    @jasonshort1437Ай бұрын

    All sound great. Really like the coated Ambassadors

  • @jonathanbormann5077
    @jonathanbormann5077Ай бұрын

    Between the vintage ambassadors and the fiberskyns, which would you say has a softer feel?

  • @schmargle
    @schmargleАй бұрын

    Fiberskyns. To me, Vintage Ambassadors are somewhere in between the standard Ambassadors and Fiberskyns in terms of the feel and tone.

  • @jonathanbormann5077
    @jonathanbormann5077Ай бұрын

    @schmargle that's about what I thought it would be. I have a 14" fiberskyn I tried on my snare. I didn't like it for that (I think Diplomat Fiberskyn would be better for me) but I'm looking to order a 12" Amb. Fiberskyn and put them on my toms. Thanks for the quick reply!

  • @JustinWilson01
    @JustinWilson01Ай бұрын

    I'm here for it

  • @jkdrummer9585
    @jkdrummer9585Ай бұрын

    Would’ve liked more samples of different ride patterns instead of rolls.

  • @schmargle
    @schmargleАй бұрын

    I have a bit more of that on this other video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mHitj5txiNCnkdo.html

  • @pascalbasile3377
    @pascalbasile3377Ай бұрын

    Harvey Mason sticks ?

  • @gregthomas1763
    @gregthomas1763Ай бұрын

    These are Dave Weckl sticks from Vic Firth.

  • @pascalbasile3377
    @pascalbasile3377Ай бұрын

    @@gregthomas1763 Ok lighter so ..

  • @schmargle
    @schmargleАй бұрын

    @@pascalbasile3377 I did do another comparison (nearly all the same cymbal) with some 5Bs if that helps. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zniso86fnZfch6Q.html

  • @eddielane72
    @eddielane72Ай бұрын

    Great video, I prefer the 93 sound. Nice drumming too

  • @Delboydunno
    @DelboydunnoАй бұрын

    K sounds more articulate and has a much faster decay. The new beats sound like they produce a wall of sound that’s a lot more washy sounding. Both sound great but for different styles

  • @schmargle
    @schmargleАй бұрын

    Agreed. I had thought it was going to be the opposite-that the K's would be more washy. But I guess it just depends on which K's you use.

  • @Fretliner
    @FretlinerАй бұрын

    Cool man

  • @dmark2639
    @dmark2639Ай бұрын

    I like them all, except for the K Con...

  • @schmargle
    @schmargleАй бұрын

    It's definitely not for everyone.

  • @pbaker7160
    @pbaker7160Ай бұрын

    Clear Pinstripes for me.

  • @johnpaulmalpartidaquintana7806
    @johnpaulmalpartidaquintana7806Ай бұрын

    K sweet ride 21 es el tipo !

  • @Dylanklinemusic
    @DylanklinemusicАй бұрын

    that newer 20” k ride is 🔥

  • @menom7
    @menom72 ай бұрын

    As always,I vote for the Black-Dots!!!

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle2 ай бұрын

    They’re classic Rototoms!

  • @gnosticnomad8389
    @gnosticnomad83892 ай бұрын

    Glad to see I’m not the only one. I have two of those. The 90s heavy and the k con med thin low. Such great cymbals. One of those two are on my kit 90% of the time. I occasionally bring out a K sweet as well.

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle2 ай бұрын

    Ride cymbals are addictive. Seems like you’ve covered a lot of ground with those three.

  • @gnosticnomad8389
    @gnosticnomad83892 ай бұрын

    @@schmargle yeah I actually just sold a few because I want to round out my hats collection. I really want to get the pre aged dry hats and ride and a set of 15” kerope hats

  • @boomerguy9935
    @boomerguy99352 ай бұрын

    What are the weights of these rides?

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle2 ай бұрын

    The K Crash Ride: 2072g; K Ride: 2540g; K Jazz Ride: 2152g

  • @boomerguy9935
    @boomerguy99352 ай бұрын

    I have this and I love playing it for larger venues with my 18" K Dark Thin Crash. For smaller venues, I use my 20" K Custom Dark Ride and 18" K Custom Dark Crash which are wonderful for lower, softer volumes. I've tried other brands but I always came back to Zildjian. I've been playing them since 1965 and they've always had something for everyone.

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle2 ай бұрын

    Those are nice combinations!

  • @markusthedrummer8143
    @markusthedrummer81432 ай бұрын

    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @markusthedrummer8143
    @markusthedrummer81432 ай бұрын

    Terrific vid and audio! Makes me want to run out and buy roto toms today! Oh and they all sounded great but my favorite (and most familiar sound) were the pinstripes. But I'm an Evans fan 100% so when I get some rotos, I'm going to try the EC2's

  • @F.S.111
    @F.S.1112 ай бұрын

    I I just added 3 roto toms to my Mapex kit. I always liked them. I like em better with clear heads though.

  • @bobbyddrums1566
    @bobbyddrums15662 ай бұрын

    its good to compare zildjian 20 K rides today have more wash than 10 years back ,i love my 20 so i got a 22 and wasnt happy ,to much wash ,so now i just ordered a 22 zildjian dark medium which i owned before and liked but i just know when i get it and put it next to my 22 regular K AND 21 SWEET RIDE its gonna be close .IF it is i ll send it back and just get a Sabian groove ride or something ,always on the hunt

  • @toddlawrance4045
    @toddlawrance40452 ай бұрын

    Very nice "organic" sound with those heads, a lot less bright than the clearer heads.

  • @goesjem
    @goesjem2 ай бұрын

    Nice! I use my medium low as a crash over my ride with 18'' K Dark Custom crash as main. Perfect tonally together.

  • @jerrynash7886
    @jerrynash78862 ай бұрын

    Love it.

  • @aldoortiz4797
    @aldoortiz47972 ай бұрын

    1 k const med-low 2 k sweet ride 3 k jazz ride

  • @aacycles
    @aacycles2 ай бұрын

    nice playing!

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle2 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @MykWazowski
    @MykWazowski2 ай бұрын

    Nice sounding toms. I’m curious what pitch/notes you are tuning too.

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle2 ай бұрын

    I tune to 4ths. D (14"), G (12"), C (10"). The tops and bottoms are the same note. When I'm tuning the top head, the bottom head is muted, and vice versa. When I mount them (because of the miracle of physics!), the pitches actually sound a little bit lower, but it's the relative pitches that are really most important to me.

  • @MykWazowski
    @MykWazowski2 ай бұрын

    @@schmargle I thought I was hearing “Hear Comes the Bride” ;) Thanks.

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle2 ай бұрын

    @@MykWazowski 😂 Exactly!

  • @MykWazowski
    @MykWazowski2 ай бұрын

    Are you pitching the resonant head the same note as the batter?

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle2 ай бұрын

    Yes.

  • @MegaVentz
    @MegaVentz2 ай бұрын

    I'm on my honeymoon with my K Heavy ride. Good ping and crashworthy.

  • @llRoBoBinHoll
    @llRoBoBinHoll2 ай бұрын

    Most of them are too resonant for me, like they’re almost whistling with an icepick attack. The pre aged dry has a little more ‘spread’ in the high end which sounds way better imho

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle2 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I love that one.

  • @SagiDrums
    @SagiDrums2 ай бұрын

    The classic K ride 20" is the most legendary and beautiful sounding ride that goes in any genre of music, from light to heavy styles. Amazing balance between stick definition vs wash, and the bell is very clear and has a strong cut 🤟

  • @shawnbruce6934
    @shawnbruce69342 ай бұрын

    Please do some 22"s and 24's.

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle2 ай бұрын

    I’d have to buy some! …Or maybe I could rent them.🤔

  • @bobbyddrums1566
    @bobbyddrums15662 ай бұрын

    I love my sweet K set But Sabians HHX complex line has surpassed any of the K line.Especially Sabians Artisan ride .Zildjian has messed with the original formula to the point I no longer can even tolerate especially the regular Avedis .love your cymbals tho. You have some real winners

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle2 ай бұрын

    I've heard some great things about the Sabian Artisan series-I'll have to check them out!

  • @davidwak680
    @davidwak6802 ай бұрын

    Nice sense of composition by the drummer.

  • @Joshstix95
    @Joshstix952 ай бұрын

    The K zildjian 20 ride hits the spot

  • @raulcastaneda4341
    @raulcastaneda43413 ай бұрын

    That’s why I love Zildjian. They have a right Cymbal for every single drummer… Nice vid dude! Keep doing this content! 🙌🏻

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle3 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @sojake3712
    @sojake37123 ай бұрын

    Less washing at the laundromat

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle3 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @ceruleansurfer
    @ceruleansurfer3 ай бұрын

    Is that Ambassador or Diplomat?

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle3 ай бұрын

    Ambassador.

  • @ceruleansurfer
    @ceruleansurfer3 ай бұрын

    Best sounding roto tom heads I've heard. NICE!

  • @brent3760
    @brent37603 ай бұрын

    Of the 3 I like the Jazz and the Ride. Try some 602s!!!

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle3 ай бұрын

    Paiste?! Sacrilege!