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Away from KZread We Cycles is the largest bike shop in North Wales.
Offering bikes and accessories to the whole of North Wales and beyond including, road bikes, electric bikes, mountain bikes, hybrid bikes, men’s, women’s and children’s bikes.
We are a family run business and have over 250 bikes on display in our showroom, with plenty more options online.
Our in store Café is quickly gaining a reputation for providing some of the best coffee in the country, and our well equipped Shimano Service Centre offers the best bike servicing around.
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Other than the frame, the components, such as the groupset and wheelset, play a significant role in weight. I have the 2023 Orbea Orca M21eTeam PWR size 51 with the groupset of SRAM Force AXS eTap and changed the standard wheelset to Princeton 6560 with 25mm GP5000 wheel; I still managed to get the weight of 8,5kg, and that included Garmin power meter pedal.
Thanks for the video! Can you see power output of rider with the Shimano Steps system?
Hello from leigh park havant.
I got rim brake orca, 6kg. All day long.
Both terribly heavy...
Hi, thanks just bought my defy, first time with tubeless very helpful.
Really good presented, as always 👌💯
Very very well explained! Thnx 👌
But even when removed, my bike can still be powered-up?
I only get 4 data fields on my edge 1030 plus. How can I add additional data fields? I have an Orbea Rise M20, 2022 model.
A really good video. It would be great if you could post a video demonstrating a roadside tubeless fail and how you would go about fiting an inner tube if plugs won't work. I think most people, if they can see that theh can revert to a tube in a worst case scenario (which I find pretty easy with giant's slr wheels and cadex tyres), would be less reluctant to go tubeless.
Thanks! Super clear! I was looking for a video like this to figure out the difference between x35 and x20. And apparently they use completely different dropouts!
Noooooooooooooooo……..
Thank you!
Harga nya Berapa
I have a BMC Roadmachine 01 that's lighter than them both. It's 7.9 Kg.
These kind of weights for bikes this expensive are not aceptable
In the same boat, not knowing about the through axle. Thank you for this demonstration.
My new cube stereo action team one has a that tab as a pull tab at the front in-between the 2 wires to keep them locked in place think it's the acid mount it's alot easier user friendly than my other ebike no screws required it keeps 5he kiox from flying off on the trails! Best to leave it in especially if you have kiox lock enabled as it's not set to the account but the actual kiox unit! I know someone this happened to the kiox popped off and was gone ebike shut down and had to buy new kiox then never worked do had to go to the dealer with proof of purchase for his bike then wait a further 5 days for bosch to send through forms to fill out to issue a new ID keynumber definitely not what was expected if your the account holder! So maybe buy the acid mount with pull tab version then unclips or be very carful when out on trails! There pretty tight to pull off aswell but it's happened and expensive pain in the Ass!
Gorgeous ❤
I like the extra holes for rack mounting. That is very important for me
Just bought one of these bikes absolutely fantastic far superior to the Chinese bikes that are flooding the market at the moment 👍
well that's not a common UNBOXING 😂😂😂
It's not about the weight. Pro has the way better quality rims, power meter etc.
Omr or Omx? It does matter!
That's heavy
what size frame was the colnago please
Simple info . Do you confirm that the M/L is the dimension tested for Propel ?
Stupid video, why waste the time by posting a speed up version,
Do the tubeless tires have sealant in them? I just bought a TCR PRO 0 sive ML sent the left crank arm to 4iiii for a power meter, plus sealant in the tires. With cages & pedals plus garmin mounts 7.83KG
I retired in April 2020 after 30 years in the wholesale side of the bike industry. Company had its 1st major layoff right as I was leaving so I guess my timing was perfect. I then helped out part time at a local Trek shop as they were busy and it was fun work. Yes these are crazy times.
The bike industry has had its head up its own ass for about the last 5 years. Time to pay the grim reaper you greedy little bastards
Interesting , Connecting the wire that goes from into the kiox directly to the remote will not "unlock" the bike ?
Hi @mishka59, I'm not sure what you mean? How were you thinking of connecting the wire?
Directly from the engine to the remote, bypassing the kiox
Hi @mishka59. Done a quick test and no, simply swapping the cable from the Kiox cradle and putting it directly to the remote doesn’t work.
Thanks for checking, interesting, It was my understanding that the remote can work without the Kiox as the kiox is only a display... I guess a special cable will be required.. I will do some more research on that
@@mishka59 ah sorry, you were originally asking if swapping the wires would 'unlock' the bike, which it doesn't. It is absolutely possible to use a bike with only the remote and not have the kiox display, but it involves more set up than simply taking the cable from the kiox cradle and connecting it to the remote.
Great video/talk... I have shared with our independent mechanics, a time to work together and see IBS as a cycling community. Serve the customer, and keep them engaged. Cycling rides local and share where to ride, plus the change in market with bike sales shift, commuter bikes to grow in towns and cities and what to except for 2024... Great Cycle Trade Insights Thank you.
Hi @CycleTechUK thanks for the feedback. Agree, potentially so much change ahead and better to embrace it and work together rather than every individual fighting on their own.
Just curious what your opinions and insights are regarding brands pushing new products/models despite the industry-wide glut? I was really surprised that I see new releases even when inventory of the older stock is still flooding the market. That previous gen bike will have to sell for even less for me as a consumer to want to buy it because "there is newer out there".
Hi @shankeong6753, thanks for the question. It's such a difficult one. The wheels of manufacturing take a long time to get going and to slow down, so I can understand why brands haven't completely stopped releasing new products. A big manufacturer like Giant has so many different platforms that they have to have a fairly strict calendar to keep all of their products up to date and feeling current. They are always going to be updating their products and not releasing anything this year will simply kick the can down the road to next year, and cause a log jam of new models from a number of different manufacturers. It would be difficult to release a new Defy AND a new TCR in the same year and give them both the full attention they deserve. That said, you could argue that releasing a new bike when people aren't buying simply means that bike will seem older when the market finally picks up. But brands certainly have cut back where they can. A lot of the overstock you are seeing isn't necessarily with the brands themselves. Take BMC for example, they are distributed by a third party in the UK, so it maybe that BMC themselves are not acutely aware of the amount of overstock in the market, and it may be that other countries aren't suffering as badly. BMC Australia may be crying out for a new model to be released, whilst BMC France may be saying "hold on, we are still trying to shift the ones we've got!" Not all brands have perfect information so there will be a definite lag in their ability to read the market. Canyon, for example should have pretty much perfect insight into the demand for their product and their volume of supply. A company that doesn't sell from its own website, and is solely reliant on gathering information from the stores it supplies will take a while to realise the scale of the problem. That said a number of our brands have held off new releases until things calm down. A lot of 2023 model year bikes are rolling over into 2024, so where there may have been a colour change but the bike stayed the same, the current colours are remaining in the catalogue. The Cannondale Quick for example, hasn't, as far as I can remember, changed for a good few years, and why would it. It is a good bike, does its job well, but there are shed loads of them around and the usual consumer for this type of product doesn't usually rate model year highly on their reasons for buying. What is going to be really important is the sheer volume of bikes landing in the country. The manufacturers have to get this right. Too many, and the problems will persist for longer. Too few, and we will again Yo-Yo back up and brands will miss opportunities to sell their bikes. It is a difficult one indeed.
Exactly, every bikeshop I walk into it's stocked full of mountain bikes. I don't know anything about them as they all look the same to me. They don't sell at all. I feel bad for the shop as I know they would be struggling.
Hi @JFomo, thanks for the interesting feedback. Let's hope that your Local Bike Shop is able to keep going and find a good way to make the most of those MTB's that aren't shifting.
What size is the Cannondale please?
Shops will focus more on servicing bikes,when people buy bikes they are always going to need to be serviced or repaired.
Completely agree @darongardner4294 but it will be interesting to see how the actual retail element changes. Buying a bike online wouldn't appeal to me at all, I would want to see it for real first, but it may be that this option will become harder to come by.
I would say what you’re describing is pretty much is what I (a customer) am seeing here in Canada. Interesting, even though we’re an ocean away! Bike shops are overstocked with more entry level bikes that sold like hotcakes during the pandemic, but don’t have many buyers anymore…
Hi @Chan1881 thank you for the info. It is interesting to read that it isn't just North Wales, but shops all over the world that are having the same experiences.
E-bikes are the fastest growing segment, but bikeshops are unwilling to service or sell them.
Interesting that you say that @dukeloo. Where are you in the world? All the shops around here sell them and most are able to service them.
I own a bicycle shop in Ontario. I am seeing very similar issues here in Canada. You aren't alone mate. Thank you for sharing, it is nice to hear from another shop as to what they are feeling and experiencing.
Thanks Brian, it’s amazing how similar many of our experiences are despite the vast differences in location. Best of luck to you!
can the brands that have been dumped by distributers just go direct to consumer?
Hi @FrankieCooks yes they can but it is a big undertaking. They would have to set up their own warehousing for the products, their own distribution network, their own staff to deal with sales and returns. They would also have to be confident that their brand is strong enough that people will seek out their own website to find the product, as apposed to choosing their product from a selection on a retailers website or shop. Take MET helmets as an example. Great helmets (the one I’ve got is the most comfortable I’ve ever had), but are they a strong enough brand to go direct to consumer and not need shops / online stores offering and recommending them? Probably a better option for a brand like MET would be to go direct to stores, missing out distributors, but then they are up against other, very good helmet brands who are still with a distributor.
In Germany, it's a good time to buy a bike because of discounts right now, but we have to recognize that there was a massive price inflation in the last three years. So basically, prices are back to where they were in 2019/20. Signa Sports United (the parent company of Wiggles Chain Reaction) mainly operated online stores in the German market which were undercutting even the purchase prices of distributors - so there's no compassion here. I don't disagree with your major points that there's a global problem with the bike industry right now. In my observation the German market seems mostly fine. The three biggest ones aside, the majority of our distributors don't sell bikes (or very niche stuff like BMX or vintage steel road bikes) and the overflowing stock of bikes and e-bikes seems to be the main problem right now.
Hi @gpjonas6171 thanks for the insight. I had heard that the online retailers in Germany were particularly aggressive and brutal. It sounds like the German market may be a little more stable than the UK at the moment. There are certainly many bikes available at the moment here which are significantly better priced than their equivalent before Covid, but this will only be true whilst stocks last as it is mostly, as you say, a result of excessive amounts of stock.
price of bikes are getting crazy!!!!
Yep, there are some fantastic bargains out there at the moment!
Please turn up the volume in the post production. This video is simply not loud enough, difficult to listen on a computer.
Thanks for the feedback. Noted and I’ll make sure I pay more attention to sound level next time.
Hello my man. Good video. Enjoy your commentary. Bit of advice. You need to boost your mic vol. Moving on. It is hard to compete with e-bikes that ship to a door in a a week for 700ish bucks. Also, a bike tech is a valuable asset that is a true wizard. Guess what we pay those wizards? Peanuts.
Hi @ravenragnar thanks for the feedback, I’ll make sure I pay more attention to the mic level next time. Interesting that you highlight the budget e-bikes. I certainly haven’t noticed them as any competition here - they are so badly made, most of the customers we see realise they get what they pay for, but agree about the mechanics. We pay ours as much as we can, but it should be more. I think because a lot of people can tinker with their own bike and don’t know better they put up with it working just ‘ok’ rather than appreciating how much value there is in having their bike working perfectly - usually actually saving money in the long run!
@@wecycle384 Thanks for your reply. I agree with the quality control. That is good to hear about your mechanics! Looking forward to more insights.
The Giant shop near me closed permanently 2 years ago, said they couldn't get bikes anymore
That was probably true 2 years ago - very different story now. A real example of boom and bust.
I just opened a bike shop on a shoestring budget, I'm focusing on kids bikes, commuters, foldies, step thrus and a few fixies. I'm also doing art prints, vintage jerseys and books. I'm holding back on compression wear , mountain and gravel bikes. Servicing and repairs is good, going to be doing ceramic coating etc
Hi @theUntypicals it sounds like you are starting an interesting shop which I guess will have plenty of character thanks to the prints and jerseys. Ceramic coating is a great idea and a service we hadn't considered. I hope it all goes well for you, good luck!
good luck, but you need to know that you can quickly end up with huge debt in the bank. The margin in the industry is simply too low - 35% maximum, but now everyone is selling with a 50% discount and this will not change soon. Add all the monthly costs and you are fucked up. I've been there for 7 years, ended up completely broke :)
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Ditch the wheels and save almost 4kg!