RYOBI Slide Compound Miter Saw PBLMS01B

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Ryobi does it again with the Slide Compound Miter Saw model PBLMS01B, using on an 18-volt battery they manage to get corded performance out of their brushless motor. The kit includes battery, charger, carbide blade, LED shadow cut lamp, depth gauge, electric brake, table extensions and carrying handle. With the ability to perform miters, bevels or both this versatile tool should be on every DIYer wish list. What is there not to like? Unfortunately, the slider presented us with a dilemma, we love all of this saw’s great features and functions, but we had an issue we literally could not push aside. Join us as we unbox, assemble, adjust, and make our first cuts and deal with the slider.
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ADJUSTMENT DETAILS FROM MARTIN BREENER
On the other rail from the slide lock thumb screw there are two locking screws and nuts. You can adjust the slide resistance with these. My saw was hard to slide when I receive it as well. Adjusting these two gave me smooth movement with no play.
This is how you set this. It is “set at the factory” but how much time do they really take getting this just right. Just loosen each one just a bit. Then slowly tighten one till it feels like just bit to much resistance, back it off a bit, then while holding the alien head from moving lock it down with the nut, this will lock down your setting. Do the same with the other one, just a bit too much resistance, back it off and lock in place. Note that you should not be able to rattle or have any torsional, vertical or horizontal play with this set correctly. This is an advanced but still user set up item.
Special thanks to Yunfeng Bai for also reporting this adjustment works.
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Product provided by Home Depot Seeds program in return for an unbiased written review with no other obligation or compensation. Home Depot has nothing to do with the making of this video.

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  • @martinbrenner2573
    @martinbrenner2573 Жыл бұрын

    On the other rail from the slide lock thumb screw there are two locking screws and nuts. You can adjust the slide resistance with these. My saw was hard to slide when I receive it as well. Adjusting these two gave me smooth movement with no play.

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought about doing that, but was told by Ryobi tech support there were no user adjustments to be made and the unit was declared defective.

  • @martinbrenner2573

    @martinbrenner2573

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cfldriven This is how you set this. It is “set at the factory” but how much time do they really take getting this just right. Just loosen each one just a bit. Then slowly tighten one till it feels like just bit to much resistance, back it off a bit, then while holding the alien head from moving lock it down with the nut, this will lock down your setting. Do the same with the other one, just a bit too much resistance, back it off and lock in place. Note that you should not be able to rattle or have any torsional, vertical or horizontal play with this set correctly. This is an advanced but still user set up item.

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    @@martinbrenner2573 After two bad samples I never got another, but your guidance here is much appreciated as there might be others who are still having binding issues. Well done, thank you.

  • @madkilla9

    @madkilla9

    Жыл бұрын

    Is it really that easy? I’ve returned two of these already, but am willing to try a third

  • @martinbrenner2573

    @martinbrenner2573

    Жыл бұрын

    @@madkilla9 Yes, you need the proper Allen wrench and open end wrench. I am surprised that RYOBI doesn’t have a video posted on how to do it. My saw was very had to slide when I received it. I knew how smooth they are supposed to be because I have a Makita and a craftsman at work that are great. After correcting this adjustment the saw is exactly the way it should be.

  • @eastcoastwatch672
    @eastcoastwatch6728 ай бұрын

    I just received my saw today and didn’t open the box yet. I’m glad I watched your video first. A GREAT tutorial, thanks !👏👍

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    8 ай бұрын

    Congrats on the new purchase. Hope you get much enjoyment and many projects done. Thank you for the feedback.

  • @knoxl7
    @knoxl7 Жыл бұрын

    February 18, 2023. I received mine yesterday. Opened it up and installed it on my stand. It runs smooth throughout the travel. It looks like they have solved this issue or I got lucky.

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on getting a good working one. I think you'll enjoy working with it. Thank you for sharing your experience.

  • @4142Wilb
    @4142Wilb6 ай бұрын

    Sorry that your miter wasn’t working properly. I however got mine recently, I unboxed it, set it up, charged up the battery and got to work. Everything on it functions, even the sliding part. I had some reservations because I watched your video prior to it arriving but luckily it works flawlessly in its performance. One thing that concerns me is the included blade. It’s seems ok for a few light cuts but when I need to cut 2x8 lumber and such I’ll be replacing the blade with a more HD type blade. Overall it is an awesome tool. No extension cords, generators, just this unit. Great tip on the battery with and without the two contact points too. Hopefully you got your problem solved. 👍🏽

  • @alarce129

    @alarce129

    6 ай бұрын

    Happy to hear you got one of the good ones. I have seen a few display models that didn't have the issue I experienced with my first two, so it seems the issue is resolved. I too saw many benefits to this saw, hope you have many successful projects with it. Thank you for sharing your experience.

  • @butchc9226
    @butchc92269 ай бұрын

    Excellent video, it helped be understand everything about this saw 👍🏼. I just got one. HD had a sale that came with an extra 4a hp battery and charger for $229 so I could not pass it up. I did notice on mine at the full length it’s a bit rough but then it slides fine. In my case I’m not going to cut wide boards as often, so hopefully it won’t be an issue for me.

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    9 ай бұрын

    Butch, happy to hear the video was helpful and that you got the saw at a good price. Thank you for watching and sharing.

  • @nandishcs
    @nandishcs Жыл бұрын

    Thank you sir appreciate your complete tutorial

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    Hopefully you got one with a good slider.

  • @nandishcs

    @nandishcs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cfldriven haven't tested based on ur video I will be unboxing

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nandishcs Share with us what you find.

  • @Fluffywings84
    @Fluffywings8411 ай бұрын

    Since you locked it down and it worked without binding but then unlocked it and it binds at the start it sounds like the very small downward force is exceeding the design of the slider. That is without the battery too which will make the issue more pronounced. The solution I guess would be stiffer sliders bars which is a design solution only Ryobi can provide. Perhaps providing some weight on the end may help counter the initial force to overcome but that could also make it worse. Last would be to tie down the saw which will help with control of the issue. Thanks for the detailed video!

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    11 ай бұрын

    I never heard back from Ryobi after returning the two samples, but I have seen store display models that do not exhibit the issue. Thank you for sharing your insight on the binding issue.

  • @luisrodriguez9614
    @luisrodriguez9614 Жыл бұрын

    I noticed the same issue with my new Ryobi saw. I came from a Harbor Freight Chicago Electric, and that was smooth. It really is a shame the sliding is SO rough. I couldn't find anything online (other than your video) about this issue.

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry to hear I am not alone with this issue. I did visit my HD to try out the display unit and it was smooth, which confirmed the two units I had were indeed defective. Thank you for watching and sharing your experience.

  • @rogertyler3237
    @rogertyler323710 ай бұрын

    I'm Sure It's Gonna Be A Little Hard To Slide Because Of It Being New Anything New Is Gonna Be A Little Hard To Use But Once You Start Using It Mpre Then You'll Hardley Notice It. I Bought Me 4 Peice Set Of Husky Pliers & 2 Pair Of 6 Inch Needlenose Pliers. So What I Dit Was Apply A Little Of Red Lucas Grease & It Worked Good For Me. Give Some Red Lusac Grease A Shot.

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    10 ай бұрын

    Roger, thank for writing and sharing. While certain tools can be stiff at first, others like this saw require smoothness from the start. Ryobi actually determined both samples to be defective and took them back. I have seen store models without the defect so it may have been a bad batch.

  • @Pro1er
    @Pro1er Жыл бұрын

    I have one sitting in the box in my basement that I need to check before my 90 days are up but I've heard other reviewers say the same thing about the sliding action so it must be a design issue. I did notice in your video that there are what looks like what are two screws on the right hand bearing. I wonder if those can be adjusted for smoother action? Like I said, mine is still in the box and I'm too busy to fuss with it for at least a few days.

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    In talking to Ryobi they twice told me there were no user adjustments to be made. It would seem if the stiction was only at the beginning and not the entire length of the shaft the problem was more serious. I hope your saw has no issue.

  • @pdusername
    @pdusername Жыл бұрын

    The TSS121 corded 12" saw also has the same issue when unlocked & the spring pushes down on the rail's alignment. I keep the saw on a mobile table & the table moves with the start of a long cut. Can't believe there is nothing else on the web about this. I did see one video showing what linier bearings are though. Mine also has the sound of dry tight bearings - could be cheap light weight lubricant? I also haven't found out what the two adjustments are on the motor side bearings. Would be a good saw if the rails were not rough & binding. Please post if you find out something.

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    It a shame since I really liked the saw, but after two defective units, as determined by Ryobi phone tech, I was done. Ryobi never got back to me on the issue but they did pay for return shipping on both units. Recently I checked out another Ryobi saw at HD with linear bearings and it was like butter.

  • @goodeyes2c
    @goodeyes2c Жыл бұрын

    It'll be fine once you start cutting, vibration helps with the sliding

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    Ryobi requested the return of the two samples as being defective. I have since come across samples that did not have the slider issue.

  • @hwnfrd
    @hwnfrd Жыл бұрын

    Just got one of these from HD about a week ago, it was I kit with a 4ah battery and charger and a free Ryobi miter saw stand. It's still unopened it the box and after watching this video I'm having second thoughts on water or not I should open it up and check it out or just save me the time and trouble and just return it. As you have mentioned in other comments relating to this video that the one that you have tried at HD was very smooth without the sticking problem, it may be that the one at HD is broken in by having so many hands trying out the feel of the slider.

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    There is no breaking in for the slider, it either binds or it doesn't. I still think this is a great saw, despite getting two bad samples, and even better with the bundle, but I would open the saw and give it a go. You know instantly if you have an issue or not. Thank you for sharing your story.

  • @hwnfrd

    @hwnfrd

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cfldriven I have an update, I just opened my saw up today to check if the sliders stick as both of yours have done and the one I got is operating perfectly from back to front. As you had mentioned, maybe there was a bad batch in which you may have recieved both from. What Ryobi did forget though was the 4 locking nuts to attach the table extensions, however, they supplied the 4 bolts.

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hwnfrd Congrats on the working slider, I think you will really enjoy using this saw. Not sure but the nuts might be M8.

  • @JeanGuySpeton

    @JeanGuySpeton

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hwnfrd I just set up mine yesterday. Mine didn't have the loose locking nuts either they appear to already be integrated into the unit itself -- there is not even the open space to add/remove a nut. The instruction manual needs updating.

  • @hwnfrd

    @hwnfrd

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JeanGuySpeton It seems that the unit you received has an upgrade that you had mentioned , my unit does have the slots where the lock nuts fit in. Maybe when they boxed the saw that I purchased they may have mistaken it for the upgraded model like the one you have.

  • @PatrickTobiassen
    @PatrickTobiassen Жыл бұрын

    Just got mine a week or so ago and it's doing the same thing. I've messed with all of the adjustment bolts for hours and still rough. I'm pretty disappointed. I've seen so many complaints about this issue that I'm going to return mine for the Dewalt 20v 7-1/4in (DCS361)

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    I really liked this unit except for the one thing that made it unacceptable, so yes I certainly would return it. Martin Brenner mentioned his solution to the problem in the comment below. Hope you enjoy the DeWalt.

  • @PatrickTobiassen

    @PatrickTobiassen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cfldriven I liked it too but that slider ruined it for me. I actually read Martins solution after I bought it but still no luck. It's a shame because it's a nice saw for a great price. Some people said just keep using it and they will get better over time but I didn't want to take the chance and not be able to return it. Thank you for posting an honest video on this. This is the main reason I use KZread.👍

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PatrickTobiassen I can't see this problem improving over time. I did find a floor model that worked perfectly fine, so I know they made a few good units. I'm holding off buying until I need one for a project and then will see what is available. I appreciate your feedback and thank you for sharing your experience.

  • @yunfengbai3279
    @yunfengbai3279 Жыл бұрын

    I got the same model this past Thanksgiving and came across the same issue of the rough sliding, the only difference is mine happens in the middle part of the rod. After a couple of trying, I found out if I pressed the saw down really hard to slide, it will proceed more smoothly. However, I have no experience on miter saw before, so I am not sure if I am doing the right thing. Now kind of wondering if I need to return it.

  • @yunfengbai3279

    @yunfengbai3279

    Жыл бұрын

    Will try Mr. Brenner's method to see if the issue can be solved.

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yunfengbai3279 Let us know if Mr Brenner's technique works. The slide should be smooth with an easy glide all along the track.

  • @yunfengbai3279

    @yunfengbai3279

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cfldriven Come back to report that it indeed works! You can pull the trigger again as the deal is not over yet😀

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yunfengbai3279 Thank you for reporting back, I will add Mr Brenner tip to the description with special thanks to you for trying it.

  • @jesspher25
    @jesspher25 Жыл бұрын

    it looks like there might be a knob by the slider to adjust resistance

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    Jess, I wish it was that easy. Even adding lube to the rails made no diff. I had two saws with the same problem that Ryobi diagnosed as defective. Recently tried one at the store and it was very smooth, so perhaps they have solved the problem.

  • @spartaeus
    @spartaeus Жыл бұрын

    What saw did you buy after you returned the Ryobi ??? And are you happy with your new saw ? I'm debating whether to buy the Ryobi or the Metabo..

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    I did not purchase a replacement for the Ryobi. Was hoping they would resolve the issue before buying, but haven't gotten around to getting one. For my needs, I don't make a living cutting wood, I would probably go with the Ryobi as I think it would be cost effective for the amount of use it would get.

  • @rogertyler3237
    @rogertyler32373 ай бұрын

    Check To See If The Right Ajustment Screw Is Loosened

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    3 ай бұрын

    Good idea to check but both of these units were defective.

  • @booch9mm796
    @booch9mm7964 ай бұрын

    It appears the slider bars slide through cheap plastic bushings. Most of the nicer sliding saws use linear bearings and slide beautifully with no binding issues. You get what you pay for. Ryobi should put bearings in this saw and maybe I would buy it because they make decent power tools. I'm going with Dewalt for a miter saw.

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    4 ай бұрын

    The feedback I gotten on this video indicates Ryobi solved the problem. I can confirm the samples at the store no longer have this issue. I think either choice will give you good results.

  • @egonza17
    @egonza172 ай бұрын

    I think adding a ballast on the end opposite of the grip would fix the sliding problem. Seems like an engineering defect.

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    2 ай бұрын

    Looks like Ryobi figured out a solution as the ones at the store now work correctly.

  • @rogertyler3237
    @rogertyler32374 ай бұрын

    It Soundslike To Me It Might Needs A Little Grease. But I Think After You Use It A While It'l Get Broke In.

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    4 ай бұрын

    Roger, one would think that but it is a bushing alignment issue which Ryobi eventually resolved. Adding grease would just gunk up things with saw dust. Thank you for sharing.

  • @Eyespy11
    @Eyespy11 Жыл бұрын

    Lots of blow out on top of that board

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    No good on furniture, fine for everything else.

  • @poonhandler86
    @poonhandler86 Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately it appears someone has dropped the unit

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    That could be the reason, although both units were shipped without any external damage to the container and Ryobi includes lot packing material to protect the saw during transit.

  • @poonhandler86

    @poonhandler86

    Жыл бұрын

    @cfldriven do u think this may be a result of stacking to many units an simply squeezed over time because I don't believe it was designed this way

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    @@poonhandler86 I think the issue is with QC. Just surprised to have the same issue with two different samples. I reported it to Ryobi but never heard back as to the cause of the problem. I have since tried some display models and their sliders were smooth.

  • @hectortoledo5914
    @hectortoledo59142 жыл бұрын

    Maybe some lithium white grease will help it slide better

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hector the rails were already lubed and adding more didn't change its performance. The alignment seems to only change when the saw head is in the down cutting position, otherwise the slider is very smooth. Too bad since I really liked this saw. Thanks for commenting and watching.

  • @hectortoledo5914

    @hectortoledo5914

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cfldriven u never know could of been some cheap lube

  • @hectortoledo5914

    @hectortoledo5914

    Жыл бұрын

    @fartpooboxohyeah8611 😂😂😂 good one

  • @JNatella
    @JNatella Жыл бұрын

    Not just the slider. Dust extraction is non existent, very loud, no power, goes through the 5 amp battery in the kit quickly. The slide is flat out dangerous while using it. Had it for a week before I returned it and spent double on the 7 1/4 milwaukee

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your experience. Did you find the slider dangerous because it was binding? Ryobi lost a sale for lack of better quality control.

  • @JNatella

    @JNatella

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cfldriven yes that's exactly right. I was doing a small trim job to test it out and had a slightly precarious cut to make and the saw was sliding across the slippery floor as I was trying to push through the cut. It's the sort of cut you try not to make often and be as careful as possible, (finish trim piece for basically a return to the baseboard from the stairway runner trim, where it was cut short, is the best way to describe it) and you can make it work on a better operating saw (no flat surface to put on the fence on the last cut), but felt very dangerous on this one. Blew saw dust all throughout the lady's living room and left a pile of saw dust large enough to fill the dust pan just making some cuts on 1x6.

  • @JNatella

    @JNatella

    Жыл бұрын

    I also hate the switch for the light. I would be searching for it, and could never find it (I'm sure I'd get used to it) but I'd tap it multiple times and you have to be very deliberate about it, So I'd hit it and it wouldn't come on. Versus the milwaukee, you can just flick it with your finger and it comes on. This is my first Ryobi product, I own all Dewalt, which I consider good enough for contractor work, but not the best. Went to other batteries because dewalt does dumb stuff like not release a dual bevel miter saw. I'm not a trim carpenter so I need all the help I can get and flipping a 12 or 16ft piece of crown isn't reasonable when you're cutting in the customer's garage or basement.

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JNatella Overall Ryobi makes good stuff for the non-pro, but this saw was a disappointment especially since it had so much potential. Thanks again for sharing your experience.

  • @sladeoriginal
    @sladeoriginal Жыл бұрын

    Then dont push down so hard.

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    It is not a question of pushing down too hard, the rails actually bind at the start of the push. Shame I really liked the tool otherwise. Didn't want to return it but nothing I tried fixed the issue across two saws.

  • @mrBDeye
    @mrBDeye Жыл бұрын

    The observation you made about the slider ... Please check if the end of travel is magnetic 🧲

  • @cfldriven

    @cfldriven

    Жыл бұрын

    I can assure this slider has no magnets, not sure why it would. In trying out the same model in the store the slider worked as designed without any binding or stiction. Also don't forget that Ryobi tech support determined the units were defective.

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