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BEST Compact Cordless Miter Saw - HEAD-TO-HEAD

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Miter Saw Performance
For the performance section, we ran 2 tests: run-time and power
For the power test we made five timed cuts in 7-1/4″ LVL lumber and recorded the average time. This is a simple test with some uncontrolled variables, but our methods were fair.
Makita won the Power Test. This test is a good indication of what the saw and blade configuration can cut. Makita crushed this test coming in at 2.0 seconds, with the Kobalt coming in second at 2.2 seconds per cut, followed by Metabo HPT in third at 2.7 seconds.
For the Run-time Test the Winner was Makita. We made repetitive cuts in KD lumber until the battery was exhausted or thermal overload prevented further cutting.
Operators were instructed to start the saw and bring it up to speed. Bring the saw forward, make the cut, wait for the blade to stop, reset, and repeat.
Makita with its dual battery system crushed this test with 328 cuts.
Bosch and Kobalt also shined in this test, with 248 and 252 cuts respectively, cutting 60+ more cuts than the fourth-place Metabo HPT. No thermal overloads were encountered.
Note, for the overall calculation of the best miter saw we are NOT using this run-time test, we use the normalized ranking that accounts for total battery pack energy (watt-hrs) listed below.
Run-time Normalization by Watt-hours - Winner Craftsman
After running the calculations, Craftsman came in first with 2.4 cuts per watt-hour, followed by DEWALT and Metabo HPT with 2.1 cuts/watt-hr, and third place was Milwaukee with 2.0 cuts/watt-hr.
This test allows us to see who has the most effective combination of battery technology, stamina, and motor power on a per watt-hr basis.
Compact Miter Saw Features - Winner - Milwaukee
The Milwaukee came in first with 21 points followed closely by the Metabo HPT at 22 points. The Kobalt and Makita tied for third with 28 points.
Milwaukee shined with its angle and bevel features, blade cut line, dust collection, and did well in the blade brake, compact size, and maximum angle. It is full-featured, with everything you’d want from a job site saw.
Metabo HPT scored tops in the maximum angle/bevel, outriggers, compact slide, electric brake, and crushes cut capacity. It is a feature-rich, beautifully crafted tool.
Ergonomics evaluation
Bosch and Milwaukee took the ergonomics section with a score of 17-points. Metabo HPT came in second with 19-points.
The team was impressed with the third-place Metabo HPT's manufacturing quality. Its design is precise, modern, and well made. The Bosch on the other hand is a venerable 10-year old design that still holds its own. The team would like to see Bosch re-design the top handle because of its tendency to pinch your hand when transporting.
Dust Collection - Winner -Makita
From carpenters working in finished spaces, to shop workers who want to reduce the amount of airborne dust in their environment, knowing how well a saw will integrate with a vacuum is an important measure of performance for any user.
Makita took first place by capturing 8.9 ounces of dust, followed by a tie between Bosch and Kobalt with 7.9 ounces of sawdust, and Milwaukee came in third with 7.5 ounces.
The DEWALT performed poorly on dust collection. The reason for this was that the dust chutes rubber flaps [behind the saw blade] collapsed when the dust extractor was turned on. While the easy field modification is to cut or remove these flaps - this really should be addressed by DEWALT.
Decibels - Winner Kobalt
The quietest saw was the Kobalt with 84 decibels followed closely by Metabo HPT with 84.4 decibels. Third place went to the Bosch at 84.7 decibels.
Compact Miter Saw Pricing - Winner Craftman
The best-priced compact sliding miter saw was the Craftsman at $249. Second place is the DEWALT at $369 followed by Kobalt at $412.
Overall Best Compact Sliding Miter Saw - Winner Kobalt
The Tool Box Buzz crew has to give hats off to the Kobalt, it was an excellent performer with some nicely thought out features. While the team recognizes that Kobalt is not considered by most to be a Pro brand, it performed well and the numbers speak to that. The Kobalt saw surprised the crew with its impressive runtime. It scored tops in the runtime testing, decibels and price. It took second place in dust collection and the LVL power test and had a solid 3rd place showing in features.
Bosch, Makita and Metabo HPT tied for third place with 30 points.]
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  • @gualbertoecheverria6049
    @gualbertoecheverria60493 жыл бұрын

    These guys do so much work to get us a well detailed analysis. Thank you

  • @jeffreycoon9634

    @jeffreycoon9634

    3 жыл бұрын

    And the part that I like the best is its an UNBIASED detailed analysis

  • @ConcordCarpenter

    @ConcordCarpenter

    3 жыл бұрын

    thanks

  • @ImpulseAudioSpeakers

    @ImpulseAudioSpeakers

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ya they’re the best I’ve come across.

  • @erics.4113

    @erics.4113

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great work as always. I trust your approach and take the results into consoderation... especially when Milwaukee wins haha

  • @sawdustandsurvival

    @sawdustandsurvival

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm so grateful for them. Buying an expensive tool like a mitre saw for a serious hobbyist like me is a big deal and it really helps to make an informed decision.

  • @GOOD_PRACTICE
    @GOOD_PRACTICE3 жыл бұрын

    You guys provide such a transparent and honest review. This service is so valuable. It’s hard to find honest and trustworthy reviews and you guys fill that need brilliantly. Much appreciated!

  • @ajmedeiros77
    @ajmedeiros773 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been a makita guy for over 15 years but I absolutely love my kobalt miter saw! Has all the features of the Milwaukee. Mine was square right out of the box. I’ve been slowly switching over to kobalt. Can’t beat the price. Got mine for $99 last years Black Friday!

  • @mj-1809
    @mj-18093 жыл бұрын

    The neighbors must just absolutely love you after test days 😂

  • @ConcordCarpenter

    @ConcordCarpenter

    3 жыл бұрын

    I take good care of them

  • @mj-1809

    @mj-1809

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ConcordCarpenter you seem like a solid guy Rob, I’m sure you do! Great work again guys. Always look forward to your tests. Happy holidays!!

  • @Scuba_Son
    @Scuba_Son3 жыл бұрын

    I have the DeWalt and the dust collection does need some help. What I did was leave it up and pushed the rubber outside of the blade guard wheels. After a day it molded the rubber open. Now the dust collection works really well. I also considered gluing plastic to the back of the rubber to keep it open too like a nose breathing strip, we'll see if it comes to that.

  • @achrisofalltrades5620

    @achrisofalltrades5620

    3 жыл бұрын

    I did that, it works lol but yeah in general the dust collection is not the greatest

  • @supershotgungaming1831
    @supershotgungaming1831 Жыл бұрын

    Ye is a old video but it works for me right now, because thanks to it I got my makita compact miter saw without regrets

  • @Duey_diditGarage
    @Duey_diditGarage3 жыл бұрын

    Im 2 min into this video and no matter the out come I love my Kobalt 24V and for $99 flash sale last year it cant be beat

  • @rmoy2983

    @rmoy2983

    3 жыл бұрын

    I got in on that too - an unbelievable deal

  • @ajmedeiros77

    @ajmedeiros77

    3 жыл бұрын

    Diddo!

  • @thekingdomofbaddecisions7982
    @thekingdomofbaddecisions7982 Жыл бұрын

    I just bought a Craftsman V20 6 tool kit because it was $15 more than just the Harbor Freight Bauer oscillating tool and batteries and charger I actually needed. So since all of a sudden my cordless tool vendor is Craftsman, and I need a miter saw soon, Craftsman is my first consideration. You guys made a LOT of cuts and gave all these saws a LOT of run time and use, so considering that and how well the Craftsman scored, I'm confident it'll be a good choice to add to my cordless tool collection. Thank you for the absolute best review of miter saws I could have asked for!

  • @huckleberry3822
    @huckleberry38223 жыл бұрын

    The Kobalt is a great saw. I've been running one for 2 years. Just does a great job. Zero issues with 2 years of heavy use. Pro cabinet maker. If i'm not building cabinets then I'm installing.

  • @ProxyFinal

    @ProxyFinal

    3 жыл бұрын

    How precise is it and it's everything adjustable?

  • @shifty277
    @shifty2773 жыл бұрын

    This channel really is next level, subbed, commented and thumbs'd up on all your head to head testing videos. You guys are leading the pack in terms of construction tool coverage worldwide on KZread I hope you knoe that. Just get your viewing numbers and subscriber numbers to match that fact. Sublime effort guys.

  • @DON_TOOLS
    @DON_TOOLS3 жыл бұрын

    I got that kobalt 24v 7-1/4 for $100 on a flash sale Lowes had and has not let me down, best 100 bucks spent for a saw of that quality

  • @jeffalan6339
    @jeffalan633911 ай бұрын

    Hey Rob Thanks to you and your testers i was trying to decided on a smaller saw for trim as finish carpenter as a high end cabinet maker told me has better teeth alignment to the piece, and less vibration. I reviewed many narrowed to Milwaukee, Bosch, Makita and Metabo. After video demo and reviews became dual Makita or Metabo with larger cut capacity and features. My choice became the makita as the metabo doesn't even offer a saw stand. Ah the internet makes life easier as long as there is channel like this one. Thanks Rob and tot the crew

  • @billynolanjr2266
    @billynolanjr22663 жыл бұрын

    I love my Kobalt saw and use it 90 percent of the time now its a pro saw and has not let me down, My 12 inch flexvolt has not been used in a long time, with a 6amp hour battery i am good for almost three days with this Kobalt saw of trim work all day long so its a non issue, Fantastic ! just no need for a big heavy saw anymore unless i am crosscutting large 2x etc or tall crown, Love it and so glad I bought it ! great Review as always !

  • @Mixwell1983
    @Mixwell19832 жыл бұрын

    I have an old makita 10" miter saw that just didnt have the cut capacity and weighs a ton. A few days ago I bought the corded Kobalt 7 1/4 sliding miter, simgle bevel miter saw and what a difference. Larger cut capacity, blades are cheap, I have a lot of 7 1/4 blades and the 60t diablo ultra finish I had new fits it perfectly. I was using my circ saw on anything wider than 2x6 but I'll be using the miter saw a lot more around the house.

  • @user-gb2gq8lb3s
    @user-gb2gq8lb3s Жыл бұрын

    I watch this channel more for Rob’s presentation skills than tools. Rob puts most corporate presenters to shame. Big shout out from 🇬🇧

  • @amac4170
    @amac417010 ай бұрын

    I need to know how accurate they are once adjusted. How do they compare to each other fully setup opperating at their peak. How easy to adjust is important, but how they came from the factory, as a professional is not so important. Once properly adjusted how does it stack up. Ty, fantastic and informative vids

  • @jeffsnyder289
    @jeffsnyder2893 жыл бұрын

    Excellent review!!! Got the Craftsman for $203 as a kit out the door & have had it a year & a half now. It's been an excellent saw & I was shocked how accurate mine was. I like the smaller footprint & weight of the Craftsman & it has extras the DeWalt doesn't like a depth stop for dados & rubberized grip. Just wish it had a top handle. Otherwise, it's just like the DeWalt but scaled down to save 10lbs of weight. Best DIY value unless you got the Kobalt on that insane $99 deal last year.

  • @northjerseykevin3915
    @northjerseykevin3915 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Thanks for taking the time to make it and share it. I’m a Makita guy but having trouble pulling the trigger being it would be a 3rd miter saw. Maybe the Craftsman would be a good one for me. Thanks again 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @paulcostelow7713
    @paulcostelow7713 Жыл бұрын

    I trust you guys( a bunch of tradesmen doing reviews) more than most of the BS reviews out there( most are bought and paid for by the brands they recommend). Kudos and a big THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU DO!

  • @ToolHombre
    @ToolHombre3 жыл бұрын

    I got the Craftsman because my priority was portability. I strap it to the back of my Quad and go out into the field to cut 1x6 fence boards. Only downside is the power on hardwood boards, but.... that was expected since it is so small and light. Great review! Cements my opinion of the Craftsman.

  • @savage6394
    @savage63943 жыл бұрын

    I don’t personally own any Kobalt, (I’m vested in Milwaukee) However, It seems like Kobalt is trying to prove itself as a potential “Pro Tool”. I respect your opinion and as always. Thank you and your team for the hard work, time and dedication you always Deliver in these tool tests. ~Dustin

  • @Eric-dr5bj

    @Eric-dr5bj

    3 жыл бұрын

    Some value brands come late to a market so they can copy features of their competition but the build quality will not hold up well and won't produce consistent work in the long run

  • @goodlife1500
    @goodlife15003 жыл бұрын

    I have the Kobalt and I’m satisfied. The value is unbeatable for a duel bevel saw.

  • @orijimi

    @orijimi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Especially at the $100 price they sold them at one day like a year ago.

  • @goodlife1500

    @goodlife1500

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@orijimi yes I got the battery for free. So I paid about $310 incredible value

  • @Duey_diditGarage
    @Duey_diditGarage3 жыл бұрын

    💯% respect yalls turnouts Kobalt especially with the XTR line is a brand to watch out for they aint joking around and have there eyes on being in the top 3 as a very strong contender

  • @rcoltrin100
    @rcoltrin100 Жыл бұрын

    I have use the cobalt sliding dual bevel miter saw cordless for over two years. My only issue has been with the cobalt is they do not make replacement parts for it so if you break a part on it, you’re out of luck you have to get a new saw they do not make parts for the cobalt, compact, sliding miter saw.

  • @timhardman4764
    @timhardman47642 жыл бұрын

    I'm starting over with battery powered tools. I have a 20 year old suite of Dewalt (drill, hammer drill, circular saw, reciprocating saw and flex gooseneck light) that I'm about to retire. My last couple of NiCad batteries are dying out, these old Dewalt tools are big, bulky and heavy but very tough. I want to start over with the newer lightweight Lithium battery versions. In addition to the battery powered tools I have already listed, I will want to add: battery powered Oscillating saw, jig saw, grinder and 7.25" sliding compound miter saw as you guys have reviewed above. This will be for my personal use which will be light and some handyman work that will also be fairly light. I think Dewalt, Ryobi, Milwaukee, Kobalt, Makita + more make all these battery powered tools I will be getting. Can you recommend a brand to go with that will be good quality and a good value where the same batteries work on every tool. I'm leaning towards the Kobalt due to the good review on the sliding compound mitre saw you guys did here. If there is a clear winner in your mind for a line of hand tools that doesn't have a quality lightweight 7.25" Sliding compound Mitre saw, I'd still like to know what brand that is because I am willing to go with a different product and different batteries for just the 7.25" Mitre saw and everything else a different brand with the same batteries if that is the way to go. The Ryobi packages seem to have some excellent pricing but I've never owned a Ryobi tool. I have a tiny light weight Bosch battery powered drill that I always reach for first because of it's feather light weight. So 1. what brand that has all the tools I want, good quality, good value and 2. what brand that has all the tools I want except the Mitre saw? which I can buy separately. Also, I'm not opposed to Harbor Freight tools, they seem to be offering some competition with quality examples in some tools now. thanks, Tim

  • @RomanianAlphaDaddy
    @RomanianAlphaDaddy Жыл бұрын

    I grew up on Hitachi. I have their current 12in dual bevel slider, and I had the previous 2006 model that was way overbuilt, looked like an alien, and had the same fine bevel adjustments as this compact one. I really wish they would come up with a more reasonable price for this one. I know R&D is expensive and I’m sure it’s well built. It’s just hard to justify that price when I also already have two 12in dual bevel sliders…the other being a Ridgid branded Delta Cruzer. Honestly though, I didn’t realize this saw had a laser. I may go buy it now…still prefer them over LED’s.

  • @MB-yx7pz
    @MB-yx7pz3 жыл бұрын

    I have the Milwaukee and my only complaint is the lack of a depth stop. My favourite thing about it is the weight

  • @orran8281

    @orran8281

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have a milwaukee aswell the size of it and weight is great

  • @RidgelineJames

    @RidgelineJames

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have it as well and my back loves it.

  • @liamjohnny335
    @liamjohnny3353 жыл бұрын

    Rob....always excellent.. thorough..well presented...keep up with these reviews...I'm a tradesman from the UK... Yr channel is superb and greatly appreciated...cheers to u and all the fellas ...keep up the good work x

  • @derdude8201
    @derdude82013 жыл бұрын

    I‘d say the most important point on mitre saws is precision. So I‘d rank precision over stuff like runtime. That’s why I got the Bosch. With two 8ah core batteries it easily serves me the whole day. I personally prefer the laser over the blade shadow as for me it works better in direct sunlight. But that’s just personal taste I guess.

  • @ageebs5986

    @ageebs5986

    Жыл бұрын

    What size did you buy? Do you still love it?

  • @MrCFerren
    @MrCFerren3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve made so many purchases based on your reviews. Simply the best overall most professional on KZread. I own the Dewalt 7 1/4 saw and currently looking to replace my 12in Delta Cruzer with something a bit smaller and lighter but still want power and capacity. Leaning towards the Metabo miter and table saw. Like the option of corded also. Thanks

  • @jasonvandagriff2691
    @jasonvandagriff26913 жыл бұрын

    I'm a commercial voice/data installer and I'm talking large medical campuses, university's ,data centers you get the idea. I run makita at work, and have access to milwaukee, hilti, and everything else under the sun. I started buying Kobalt 24v for home, have 9 tools and zero complaints.I have this saw, I'm far from a professional carpenter but I play one in my garage. Like all Kobalt cordless tools it's tough to beat for the money. I paid 280 for it with a 6ah battery, it was dead on accurate out of the box and with a diablo blade on it I'm sure it exceeds my skills.

  • @chuehueyang143
    @chuehueyang1433 жыл бұрын

    I'm patiently waiting for the makita 40v 6 1/2" saw to come out!

  • @trstrong87

    @trstrong87

    3 жыл бұрын

    What did you do when it came out at a 8 1/2?😂

  • @nathangardner772
    @nathangardner7723 жыл бұрын

    It’s December 2020 and I’ve had that makita for about 2-1/2 years now. I keep 6.0 batteries on it. It can fit on my passenger seat if I want it to. It is one of my most valued tools. I have the stand for it as well. I can pick it up on the stand and move it around if I have to. It cuts anything pretty much. I like not carrying my 12 inch makita around. But the best set up ever Is when I get them both going in a straight line with material standouts on either side and a trash can in the middle. I can slide 16 foot trim between the two and drop waste in the can in the middle. Ideally you’d want 4 saws going and only set an angle once on each saw. So next I’ll probably go with a ten inch makita two battery saw, then I’d have that little makita in the middle for just straight cuts.

  • @scottspropertyservices6877
    @scottspropertyservices68773 жыл бұрын

    I might change my morning alarm to the audio of everyone using the saws all at once. The wife will LOVE it🤣

  • @MooseDoesStuff
    @MooseDoesStuff3 жыл бұрын

    Good breakdown for framing! I would like to see a little more effort paid to finish carpentry for the mitre saws especially. Ease of setting non-standard angles, thickness of indicator lines, microadjustment knobs, etc. Basically everything you tested on these could be equally applied to circular saws, but circular saws really shouldn't be used for finish trim work, or any sort of finer projects like building picture frames, etc. Also even just for the framing, built in stops, clamps, (I hate my bosch's clamping system), are pretty important to the day-to-day use of a mitre saw, and seem to have been missed here.

  • @mikez4132
    @mikez41323 жыл бұрын

    My 7 1/4 Ridgid has been great. They re released it in Canada so it may come back to the US.

  • @evolvep2747
    @evolvep27473 жыл бұрын

    bought the kobalt for $99 unbeatable

  • @jgamer7715
    @jgamer77153 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this awesome video, just picked up the Milwaukee with a free 8.0 for 399 on Cyber Monday. Glad I'm getting a great saw that should serve me well!

  • @debandmike3380
    @debandmike33808 ай бұрын

    I think one of the biggest flaws of miter saw design is the inability to do a score cut without having to bump out the material. Tracksaw users love scorecuts, a miter saw is basically the same thing so it should be equally important. I understand that there is no room to push the blade back further because then they're sacrificing overall cut length but really how many times do people pull the blade all the way out to the max position I'm sure they would gladly sacrifice that for a score cut that goes all the way to the back of the board.

  • @Robert-ex2qp
    @Robert-ex2qp3 жыл бұрын

    This came just in time. I am looking at the Makita, I own a corded Makita 10" and it is a hassle in a finished house. a 7 1/2 cordless would be much more convenient, I started with a 7 1/2 decades ago when that was all there was. Great work guys, thanks for the great reviews. I found trade shows don't allow in-depth use to review anymore so your reviews help look at everything.

  • @bartman59laj55

    @bartman59laj55

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Robert, I’ve had the 36v Makita for a couple years and use it 95% of the time over my 10 and 12 inch saws. I’ve had siding jobs where the batteries lasted for a full week and it has power out the ying/yang. Not even mentioning the difference in price for 7 1/4” blades.

  • @datsun4x

    @datsun4x

    3 жыл бұрын

    I still have my old nimh makita 7-1/2. I added an adapter to run my li-ion batteries and its still going strong after 15 years, and some bearings replaced over the years. I really want to replace it with a dual bevel saw, but mine hasn't died yet

  • @WilsonAbrego
    @WilsonAbrego3 жыл бұрын

    I bought a craftsman 10” mitter saw. It’s so light weight, portable and compact you can storage anywhere as its foldable and it sits right up. I am very happy with it. Just wish Dewalt came up with something like that as I am very invested in their products, particularly in their cordless products.

  • @randybobandy9828
    @randybobandy98283 жыл бұрын

    These are absolutely the best tool tests out there! Keep it up!

  • @jonathanvazquez8755
    @jonathanvazquez87553 жыл бұрын

    Watched this after my purchase, I'm glad I bought my Kobalt...

  • @joshuawebster4272
    @joshuawebster42722 жыл бұрын

    Best tool reviews on YT. Your channel should have a million subs. Keep up the excellent work. Eventually, this channel will explode. Your work is detailed, unbiased and thorough. Thanks!!

  • @ConcordCarpenter

    @ConcordCarpenter

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe one day!

  • @bretsmith1094
    @bretsmith10943 жыл бұрын

    i believe kobalt is underated.they have the best prices for the batteries and they finish in the top half of every test that they are in.Unless they dont have a tool that you need i cant see any reason to pay a third more for makita or dewalt

  • @orijimi

    @orijimi

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm a big fan of Kobalt, but one reason is that buying Makita and DeWalt is ultimately more ethical than buying Kobalt.

  • @meowwow5310

    @meowwow5310

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@orijimi just curious- how is that the case?

  • @christopherkouri2317
    @christopherkouri23172 жыл бұрын

    Simply the best tool review guys around! Thank you guys for all the hard work!

  • @grimmheart
    @grimmheart3 жыл бұрын

    YESSS. Finally! I have been patiently waiting for this one. Thank you!

  • @2chipped
    @2chipped3 жыл бұрын

    Another great test,and great data for weekend warriors. But let's face it,very few contractors will have 4 batteries and 1 seperate tool brand for value's sake. My 2 exceptions to my m12/m18, Makita 18/x2 lines are,Ryobi pin nailer with adapters for red and teal,a Ridgid shop vacuum with teal adapters. Most flaws can be overcome by a work-around, all poor dust collection needs is a hood and a tarp below,no shadowline add an led inside blade guard,and etc. Fantastic job to the whole TBB crew👊.

  • @michaelgrandinetti3170
    @michaelgrandinetti3170 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Rob, thanks for all you do on this channel. Can you or better said, do you have plans to test the newer Makita 40 volt 8-1/2 miter saw?

  • @jameselam8263
    @jameselam82633 жыл бұрын

    Great video! !'m not a fan of the Dual batteries its just more to charge..

  • @kenshirogenjuro873

    @kenshirogenjuro873

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s why you buy the dual chargers...2 5Ah batteries charged together in 45 minutes. No one else comes close.

  • @jason-hh6lu
    @jason-hh6lu3 жыл бұрын

    I like the whistle break sound battery mitre and table saws make. Nice video.👍🏻

  • @loucifer323
    @loucifer3233 жыл бұрын

    What's amazing is the Dewalt and Craftsman are both brushed and came in 1st and 2 nd in runtime

  • @erics.4113

    @erics.4113

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think it's down to power consumption vs efficiency. While brushless motors are more efficient at delivering power, the manufacturers are stepping up to more powerful motors in their brushless offerings. It's like a fuel efficient V8 vs an older less efficient 6 cylinder. I have this craftsman and I like it. The run time on a 4ah battery is good. But I also notice it's not as powerful. So, it's using less power to spin the blade than a more powerful brushless saw

  • @loucifer323

    @loucifer323

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@erics.4113 the dewalt was the most powerful

  • @erics.4113

    @erics.4113

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@loucifer323 I'm sure it is. The same company owns both brands I don't see them offering more power in their less premium brand. Im happy with the craftsman for light duty it's just fine and battery life seems good (possibly down to it being less powerful).

  • @loucifer323

    @loucifer323

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@erics.4113 I have the dewalt it cuts great it doesn't bog down, unless you're cutting something that's not designed for, and as far as not having duel bevel I always flip everything over it very rare were you ever need to use duel bevel

  • @erics.4113

    @erics.4113

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@loucifer323 is that 7 1/4 as well? I may go to a 10inch or possibly larger some time in the future I noticed when doing miters it dramatically reduces the size of lumber I can use.

  • @jorgepallares7149
    @jorgepallares71493 жыл бұрын

    Great video & article and how great you go into detail testing each of the saw saw. I have the Milwaukee & no regrets

  • @jeffpowell8308
    @jeffpowell83083 жыл бұрын

    I bought the Milwaukee earlier this year and so far I've not needed it's big brother. My friend bought the dewalt first. After he tried my Milwaukee he agreed that it's much better.

  • @gustavomacall4949

    @gustavomacall4949

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious to know what features your friend liked the most about your Milwaukee saw over his dewalt ?

  • @jeffpowell8308

    @jeffpowell8308

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gustavomacall4949 the Milwaukee does dual bevel cuts where his dewalt does not. While they have the same size blade the Milwaukee has a greater depth of cut. I can easily miter cut a 2x3 with it sitting up right on 1 1/2 edge sitting on the base with the Milwaukee. The dewalt can not. Also the dust collection of the dust bag is not just superior to the dewalt it's the most effective one we have ever seen.

  • @rodpotts2666
    @rodpotts26663 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for working so hard to put out these videos. Greatly appreciated !

  • @LL-xl6ht
    @LL-xl6ht3 жыл бұрын

    I've seen several out of the box, new examination of tools. I'd like to see such an effort on tools, at least 1 year in to usage. Real usage.

  • @ConcordCarpenter

    @ConcordCarpenter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great point!

  • @IMABEAST191
    @IMABEAST1912 жыл бұрын

    The craftsman is a beast I use it to cut schluter metal bullnose sticks and it rips thru like butter also use it for pretty much everything and gets it done. I got fir 114 at Lowe’s couldn’t pass up on it.

  • @claytongoodall6370
    @claytongoodall6370 Жыл бұрын

    I hope he wrote a letter to the HOA before this. Looks like a long, loud test. Awesome stuff though! 👍🏼

  • @berksoaks4340
    @berksoaks43403 жыл бұрын

    I've been waiting for this one, thanks that was a big help!

  • @nicolasmep
    @nicolasmep3 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy all the miter saws h2d. Thanks

  • @irmaztamal21
    @irmaztamal213 жыл бұрын

    Robert E. Robillard is one of the best Tool Reviewer.....👍

  • @lajuanjohnsonbtc9634
    @lajuanjohnsonbtc96343 жыл бұрын

    Great job! I bought the Kobalt based on your review.

  • @markmeli1960
    @markmeli19603 жыл бұрын

    Great job guys. Ifpeople don't like what you tested then they can put out the money and test for themselves. Lol

  • @cdgregOG
    @cdgregOG3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, surprise showing from the Craftsman. I still can't say I'd buy one, but like you said, best value based on your rankings. Going to go find the 10" and 12" videos now. Thanks!

  • @FarginIceholeful
    @FarginIceholeful3 ай бұрын

    Being from the Milwaukee area, we got to test a prototype design for a Milwaukee 10". It was pure garbage. We still have it 10 years later but we only use it with an aluminum cutting blade for cutting panic bars to fit on doors.

  • @adampetten1009
    @adampetten10093 жыл бұрын

    At times you mixed up videos, sometimes it shows the 10" i sold my Milwaukee 10" because it was pretty much junk and bought the 7 1/4 and its now my favorite

  • @ConcordCarpenter

    @ConcordCarpenter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, video clips. We filmed and tested 14 saws that day ranging from compact to 10” to 12” They all start looking the same on the editing screen

  • @christiangraham8057
    @christiangraham8057 Жыл бұрын

    Seriously, thank you for your time.

  • @williamcooper5009
    @williamcooper5009 Жыл бұрын

    Great review, Rob. Loved it. I’ll watch your others.

  • @ConcordCarpenter

    @ConcordCarpenter

    Жыл бұрын

    this my FAV painter?

  • @chrispolopolus8656
    @chrispolopolus8656 Жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed this presentation, information and the format in which it was presented. Good job and thank you for what you provide!

  • @miralemmahmutovic5119
    @miralemmahmutovic51192 жыл бұрын

    Bro best tool reviews on the tube, hands down

  • @meshark03
    @meshark033 жыл бұрын

    I am gonna have to buy some merch or something from you all. The content you deliver such great quality, really love it.

  • @ConcordCarpenter

    @ConcordCarpenter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man -- please subscribe

  • @calebstevens4658
    @calebstevens46582 жыл бұрын

    Serious dedication to getting as many accurate stats as possible. Excellent content

  • @ConcordCarpenter

    @ConcordCarpenter

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @hrayrohanyan4498
    @hrayrohanyan44982 жыл бұрын

    Hello What can you suggest buy Milwaukee 7-1/4 cordless, Milwaukee 10 inch, or DeWalt 7-1/4 or add some ( a lot))) money and buy festool? Thank you

  • @libertarian1637
    @libertarian16373 жыл бұрын

    I own and use the DeAlt saw professionally and while I like it and use it; i agree it can benefit from a gen 2 upgrade. It needs dual bevel and would benefit from adjustable fence. The DeWalt is just a good cheap pro grade saw. It’s nice in that it uses the standard 20 Volt batteries. It works great for trim as you can bring it right in next to you given its size. I love the small wall and find I use it more than the 12” just because it’s smaller, lighter, and easier to move.

  • @tomdanes5859

    @tomdanes5859

    2 жыл бұрын

    fyi fence is adjustable screws on back side

  • @thorm6852
    @thorm6852 Жыл бұрын

    Pity that you in US did not have Bosch Bi-Turbo saw etc., only old ones.

  • @ernieplumley2600
    @ernieplumley26002 жыл бұрын

    I really like the comprehensive honest reviews. I personally own a Bosch compound miter (electric). Love the saw. My previous miter saw was a rigid. Hated that saw.

  • @ageebs5986

    @ageebs5986

    Жыл бұрын

    Which model did you buy? Do you still love it?

  • @tkon2011
    @tkon20113 жыл бұрын

    Just discovered this channel. WOW! Subbed for sure. So much work for this info, thank you so much! Look forward to more videos!

  • @ConcordCarpenter

    @ConcordCarpenter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @free2chasehappy
    @free2chasehappy3 жыл бұрын

    Great review! I'm surprised that Craftsman came it second place. And a testament to great engineering, dewalt saw has a brushed motor and still came in second place in the normalize runtime, goes to show engineering in a product is critical.

  • @loucifer4205

    @loucifer4205

    3 ай бұрын

    Because saws are used at full power brushless and brushed there isn't a big difference in runtime like a drill or impact driver

  • @benjaminromshak2921
    @benjaminromshak29213 жыл бұрын

    I’m a huge Hikoki fan, but man Metabo HPT needs to up the accuracy of this saw and add a shadow line if they think it’s worth over a grand.

  • @MrCFerren

    @MrCFerren

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can buy this saw now at Lowe’s for 399$ comes with battery and adapter I believe plus metabo has a offer for mail in purchase verification and I think you can choose a couple of different free items.

  • @photonashville

    @photonashville

    3 жыл бұрын

    @MrCFerren double check the model numbers. Lowes has the Metabo HPT saw in this video at $999, $250 off until end of year. You won't find anyone with this saw selling it for less than the $999 price.

  • @MrCFerren

    @MrCFerren

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@photonashville sorry you are correct it’s the 10in model that’s on sale for 399$ which is the one I’d prefer to a 7 1/4. I already own the Dewalt 7 1/4. Very handy for small stuff but still need a saw with bigger capacity

  • @DON_TOOLS

    @DON_TOOLS

    3 жыл бұрын

    The 10 inch metabo 36v was going for $300 with a starter kit, it was just raised to $400 but sold out now.

  • @histguy101

    @histguy101

    2 жыл бұрын

    It actually does have a shadow line. The reason it costs so much is because it's made in Japan, where as their 10", along with most all their other cordless tools(and every other brand here) are made in China. It's a very high end saw.

  • @Cratos98
    @Cratos983 жыл бұрын

    Concord Carpenter, thanks for your hard work, this testing takes alot of time...Greetings from Netherlands

  • @thegoodfight365
    @thegoodfight3653 жыл бұрын

    Hey Rob thanks for your testing and information on tools over the years. I have yet to make a decision I regretted based on your opinions. Lastly I picked up the 36 volt makita rear handled circular saw. That said I would like to see you do comparisons on cordless sanders. Orbital as well as belt. Thanks for all your help. Jesus love you.

  • @acc1079
    @acc10793 жыл бұрын

    Would really enjoy seeing a corded miter saw head to head. I think all your previous have been with cordless correct? If I am incorrect someone please let me know.

  • @debandmike3380
    @debandmike33808 ай бұрын

    i've had my Makita 7 1/4 for three years now and use it for every single project. occasionally I have to go back to my 12 inch bolted down to my workshop and it just feels so unnecessarily oversized and awkward to use now.

  • @joedance14
    @joedance143 жыл бұрын

    Your tool evaluations are always interesting and informative. Thank-you.

  • @arianaandjamesrabanaleslop9053
    @arianaandjamesrabanaleslop90533 жыл бұрын

    Can you attach the metabo to a Dewalt DWX723 Miter Saw Stand. Thank you. We appreciate your hard work and good information.. I like the metabo

  • @dewaltman9377
    @dewaltman93773 жыл бұрын

    I think either Makita Milwaukee or DeWalt

  • @drewt6235
    @drewt62353 жыл бұрын

    This should be an interesting long thread 😜😉! Great job thanks guys!

  • @JDBeastmode
    @JDBeastmode3 жыл бұрын

    I have so many Milwaukee batteries already or I would have loved to have the kobalt.

  • @beachmb
    @beachmb Жыл бұрын

    The 45° miter can and need to be adjusted on every new miter saw

  • @ryanwodjenski5884
    @ryanwodjenski58843 жыл бұрын

    Love the reviews and the work you do! Thank you guys.

  • @mr.3phase228
    @mr.3phase2283 жыл бұрын

    1/2" high torque impact wrenches next PLEASE

  • @Softestbrick

    @Softestbrick

    3 жыл бұрын

    This please!!

  • @dewaltman9377

    @dewaltman9377

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Softestbrick yes please I was waiting

  • @dewaltman9377

    @dewaltman9377

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes please I was waiting

  • @karls5795
    @karls57952 жыл бұрын

    Great job team! I found it very helpful and most importantly useful!

  • @parker4551
    @parker45513 жыл бұрын

    Great info, I like that I can pick and choose the categories important to me. I took price out and it really rearranged things.

  • @ConcordCarpenter

    @ConcordCarpenter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff!

  • @baddog4347
    @baddog43472 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for testing the craftsman was about to sell it and get the Milwaukee for home use👍

  • @MustPassTruck
    @MustPassTruck3 жыл бұрын

    You guys need a Menards near you.

  • @ajmedeiros77

    @ajmedeiros77

    3 жыл бұрын

    Man I wish!

  • @Matasky2010
    @Matasky20103 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly the video I needed to see, although some of these saws are in completely different price brackets.

  • @johnpetry2541
    @johnpetry25413 жыл бұрын

    Awesome testing job guys!

  • @doug667
    @doug6673 жыл бұрын

    Kobalt doesn’t have a miter detent override lever, making it difficult or impossible to cut 44 or 46 degrees, for example. I didn’t hear that feature mentioned. Wonderful review overall, thanks for doing this.

  • @ConcordCarpenter

    @ConcordCarpenter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great point

  • @joecole2299

    @joecole2299

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yikes, that seems like a deal breaker. Outside miters on baseboard are almost always 46.

  • @cablandino

    @cablandino

    3 жыл бұрын

    Um, sure it does. You lift UP on the handle to slide to the in-between slots, and then pull it down to lock it into position. It isn't as nice as the Dewalt thumb trigger, but it still works.

  • @Rompestromper
    @Rompestromper3 жыл бұрын

    I have the DeWalt saw, not the best out of the test (though I have the european adapted version) but I just want to say that it does really well, I build several sheds with it etc. one battery a day. But I think I will go to their flexvolt version if they don't upgrade this one. (I am on the Dewalt platform otherwise I would've gone for the Millwaukee tbh)

  • @ryanengland6054
    @ryanengland60543 жыл бұрын

    I don't see how Makita didn't place better

  • @chriscleave2173

    @chriscleave2173

    3 жыл бұрын

    13:50 I think everybody compromises or at least is willing to on one thing. Noise to me isn’t that big a deal. I wear plugs when I should and I’m not bothered. The price and the run time are the only other major dings. Mind you get 2 batteries with the Makita as priced and that is also what stunts the score on runtime. I’m on 2 of these platforms and would still choose Makita. Funny thing I just realized, Milwaukita are the only out of the bunch you can’t purchase from Lowe’s.

  • @ConcordCarpenter

    @ConcordCarpenter

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chriscleave2173 I agree - that's why we share all this for you - if it's not important to you remove it from the matrix and re-rank them. The point is to give you enough information to make your own deision

  • @markwigley9185

    @markwigley9185

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can buy makita tool only for $599. I have plenty of makita batteries because that's my platform. The big issue with makita is it doesn't bevel both directions. That's a deal breaker for me. Makita needs to fix that. Great job Rob and crew

  • @ryanengland6054

    @ryanengland6054

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ConcordCarpenter still in excellent video as usual

  • @ryanengland6054

    @ryanengland6054

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ConcordCarpenter I always hate when the Tool brands are like don't win though I guess I'm competitive even when it comes to tools LOL