I just purchased the METABO HPT 10” , and let’s be honest here.. the fact that I can plug it in for all day usage , and when I’m off grid somewhere I can use my battery , it’s a clear winner, it’s in its own class…

I have two Makita 36v 10" saws. They are simply the best saws Ive ever used. Accuracy, and ability to dial in any cut is why I continue to use them.

Rob your neighbours must really love you with all the noise. This is an excellent review, thanks to everyone for all your hard work have a great night.

These reviews are incredibly useful, Thanks TBB Crew!

Rob, I have had the Makita 10” for over a year now and still love it. First job I did was a hardwood floor where I had to set up in a narrow hallway. The forward rails and dust collection sold me on that one job, both are really great features.

Loved your detailed, considered and thorough review of these saws. Way ahead of any other reviews I've seen online in this area. Not only did you design excellent testing approaches, you also acknowledged any limitations. Overall I think you gave a very fair and insighful review. Thanks.

Love how detail and extensive your testings are. Love this channel despite me not looking for a cordless miter saw anytime soon. I still watch your videos.

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

The Makita is the winner for me. Tried all three, it was just so smooth and polished.

Recently purchased the Makita 10"cordless. Very happy with the performance of the saw. Agree with shadow line vs laser but I still like the Makita Saw. BTW your head to heads & your reviews in general are Intelligent, spot on with no BS/ drama. Thanks.

@A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz. Thanks Rob and Team for another great Head-2-Head Test on these three 10 inch cordless sliding miter saws. Lots of data and lots of information. Will make my next buy easier. Hope you , your team, and your families stay safe and well.

I bought the Makita for my workshop at home, I like the way it links up with the dust extraction and just feels like a good quality tool

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

It is!

Always the best review. No one compares. Thank for the hard work and fine production.

Thanks so much for this review. I’m currently looking for a 10-inch saw. I was thinking of Makita because of its features and most importantly its compact size. Your review is making my decision harder after I learned more about the Milwaukee saw. I love everything about it expect the fact it takes more space in the shop.

Terrific video. Making your recommendation based on metrics and data is impeccable. Keep up the strong work !!!

Even though you say that you’re not a professional testing company, you still do the best, most professional testing I’ve seen. Some sites, including a couple of fairly popular ones, are more like clowns than professionals, though they claim to be. I think we can all agree on at least one of these.

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Your too kind, thanks man

Well done guys. Lots of work to do the comparison and it’s appreciated!

Love your channel and comparison videos you make. I think that they are the best on KZread! Thanks!

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

I got both the corded and cordless version of the makita, beast of a saw

Rob, You might say you guys are not a professional testing company, but you are! You work with these tools on a daily basis as carpenters/Builders, you know what it takes to use them. I was going to buy the Milwaukee since I have 18 of their tools, but to many complaints. I bought the 8-1/2" Makita for small cordless jobs. My main shop miter saw is my Festool Kapex. I enjoy your tool testing videos, because you guys are professionals . Keep them coming!

I love my M18 10" miter saw and tablesaw on my remolding jobs. So light and easy to move around.

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

It was the best maneuverable in the group

Thank you guys! Your rankings are incredibly useful.

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

glad you like it

I've owned that makita for about 3 years now. I was super lucky in that I caught my local home depot clearancing it at the same time Makita was running a free two batteries. So I ended up getting the saw and 4 5 amp hour batteries for $350. To call it a steal at that price would be an understatement. I've had a few nitpicks in operating it over the years, but they are just that nitpicks. The fence system isn't the best design as certain cuts you straight have to remove it. I also have the same perspective on the laser as you guys. It is fine for quickly sighting something that I just need in the ball park, but absolutely worthless for precision. Beyond those nitpicks, I've found nothing it couldn't do. I originally bought it being skeptical that it would become my full time saw and replace my old dewalt 12". Mind you that saw is 20ish years old and is just a work horse. I haven't touched it a single time since buying the makita. I just simply haven't found anything it couldn't handle. Three years of use and that is really the only complaints I can muster about it. I put mine on the Harbor freight hercules rolling miter saw stand. I just found makita's miter stands to be really just poorly designed for the price they are asking.

Just found a 10in Milwaukee 18v that looks like it was used once for $299. Very excited to add this to my tool set, and thanks for the review.

I’m writing this while paused on 0:35 into the review. Wanted to give my experience of the Metabo HPT(Hikoki/Formerly Hitachi) Multivolt 10” miter before I watched Robs. I love the saw, along with the entire line. Is it a kapex...absolutely NOT. Is it a great Jobsite ripper..ABSOLUTELY! This thing is amazing, especially considering all the capabilities(cord/cordless, decent “enough” laser, exceptional ruggedness built in to the entire saw). This thing has literally rolled of the back of a table down a flight of outdoor concrete stairs and walked away with only scratches. Power for days..battery or cord. If you look you can pick this saw up for a hell of a price. If you’re looking for versatility and a good saw, this is it!

@vetteazul5114

2 жыл бұрын

I picked up the Metabo at lowes for $160. For that price it's really hard to beat. I haven't used it yet, so I hope that it works great for me. It is my first Metabo tool.

I have the 10” Milwaukee....great cordless saw I have never exhausted the battery on any job.

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Right on

I talk crap to my children about watching you tube videos of kids opening toys or playing video games and here i am, going thru reviews spending money before i have it. Thanks Rob. I just purchased the 12 in delta Cruzer, because there was no cordless option at any brick and mortar store, besides 7 1/4s. And the sole 10in cordless option was a metabo floor model sold as is. We'll set how the delta goes.

Best details tool review on KZread!!

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks!

Thanks for taking the time to do these tests. As usual, you come across as clear, concise, and (most importantly) *unbiased*.

My first makita 10" cordless got stolen after about a couple months of use,and I replaced it with the same model ,but at the time home depot only had a floor model in stock. After about a year the switch /sensor was replaced and was under warranty. To be fair to makita,it could have already had a defect. I use it alot for small segmented /pattern work and do a lot of repetitive cuts,and it has been almost a year since being repaired and I've had no problems since. I've also had the kapex ,but would reluctant to buy another because of customer service, but I think the makita 10" is the closest thing to it and has a larger more accurate bed, more powerful motor. I wish they could make it with the same bevel control as the kapex, but for the price you can't beat it! Thanks Rob, for this review!

It’s so interesting to read everyone having accuracy problems with the Milwaukee 10”. I use mine for everything but I’ve really loved it for trim because it has a large capacity on the upright. Maybe I’m just use to it and not pulling left / right while cutting? Also the weight is a blessing. Being able to open a door while holding the saw with one hand is amazing.

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@agent7agent759

Жыл бұрын

I have issues with my milwaukee 10" mitre saw no matter how I tried it doesn't cut straight and noticed the rails are deflecting alot which transfers to the head of the saw , wasted money for me

Just found your channel. IMO outstanding review. Thank you for taking the time to review these saws!

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

thx for commenting please consider subscribing

Great review guys! Having only Makita gear I’m leaning more to that brand, like Milwaukee stuff also, just not a fan of the laser or weight of the Makita. I’m used a much much lighter dewalt which is a great saw but it’s got a heap of wobble to it which puts a trench into my mitres. Definitely agree about the shadow line that was what sold the dewalt to me several years back.

H2H is really great, enjoyable show.I downloaded this vieeo and watched on my tv for better experience.Hope you dont mind Rob.😁

Like the shot of the crew member sprinkled with the man glitter! BTW, Big-10 football on Saturday! Yay!

@MichaelBrown-kk6ck

3 жыл бұрын

All those guys making sawdust in the driveway with imperfect dust collection and some not wearing masks. I’d rather not inhale all that wood/glue dust. Dust in the air is pretty visible.

5:37: "This is a little bit nerding out." love it, ACC

Great review! I think i might pick up the makita. I already run the milwaukee 7 1/4 and its great for most things.

Wow. Your neighbors must love you.

Favorite KZread channel. Ive never watched a full episode of any tool review except AVE until i found your channel. The fact that not a single video you've put up about a tool comes without that tool being demonstrate as closely to real life situations. Ive never felt I was tricked unlike others that have name's implying I'll be watching all action with some talking when it's complete opposite. Tools in action my ass. Lol. Sorry had to say it.

Picked up the Makita today. Awesome saw

I like my milwaukee 10 inch. It was on sale and cheaper then the corded saw I was looking at and I'm already on the milwaukee platform. It does it's job

99 percent of my trim work and other work is done with a 7.5 inch slider , very rarely do I use my dewalt flexvolt 12 only when building decks or framing etc ..I love my Koblat cordless 7.5 inch slider ! It's an amazing saw and lasts all day long on a 6amp hour batt! No issues at all , the kobalt is a great saw !

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

same, same for small stuff

I read too many bad reviews for the Milwaukee 10" saw and went with the 12" instead and it has been great.

@cajunice3588

3 жыл бұрын

I agree the 12 inch milwaukee is a way better saw great choice

@T.Y.Custom

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree the 10inch is trash love the 7 1/4

@thebrotherofthunder

5 ай бұрын

Has the armature gone yet??

@Dale37

5 ай бұрын

@@thebrotherofthunder No, it still works flawlessly.

I am a Milwaukee fan it's about the only tool I buy, love this video

@ConcordCarpenter

10 ай бұрын

Brand loyalty is a real thing! Thanks for commenting

Very useful info. Thanks a lot. I decide to buy Makita. Because of its nice design, sawdust extraction, and blue tooth trait. And more over, I have already seven 18 V battery from this dealer…

Thanks for your video. Cause am planning on making a purchase of a cordless miter saw I do finish carpentry.

Thanks for putting in the time and effort guys. I found this rather helpful.

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I've own both Makita and Milwaukee. Sold the Milwaukee.

@marine50322

3 жыл бұрын

Fuck I bought the milfucky 3 months ago it has been great except for trim it just doesn't seam to have the power/ speed for a clean cut

@dickphan

3 жыл бұрын

Makita one......looks shmick..!!!.

@T.Y.Custom

3 жыл бұрын

Same i hated the Milwaukee

@krizm

3 жыл бұрын

do you do construction or shop? im just scared carrying the makita, for the weight

@UnstoppableJoe33

3 жыл бұрын

@@krizm shop, if you have to lug it around you'd probably go with dewalt

I recently purchased the new Makita 40v 12" mitre saw and guess what they listened and replaced the laser with the shadow light , bought it kited with fast charger and 2 40v 4ah batteries, the saw is amazing runs for almost a day or with heavy use for about 5 hours so second battery is a necessity unles you charge it during the lunch time and to solve the weight issue got bosch gravity rise mitre saw stand and its awesome, thanks for your videos

I had the Milwaukee for almost a year and wasn't thrilled with it. Bought the Makita and found it head and shoulders above the Milwaukee. Sold the Milwaukee.

I've got the 10 inch Milwaukee, it's decent , the arms flex at 45 degree bevel so the cut isn't straight if you don't let the blade cut ,

Always instructive 👍🏽👌🏽💪🏽

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that

Great video Rob, I’ve had the Milwaukee, sold it and now use the Metabo HPT. Dust collection is a big deal for me as well as cost and I’m really happy with it. The Milwaukee was a nice machine but don’t miss it. I’d love to try the Makita but $$

@steveb611

2 жыл бұрын

Do you recommend the metabo HPT miter saw the one that's in this review. I was thinking about getting one. I have their table saw. It works great

@baseballdude8491

Жыл бұрын

@@steveb611 We love our corded 12" sliding compound mitre we have had for 8yrs and have 3 of the 10" 36V Sliding compound mitres, two on jobsite and one in shop Great saws for us!

Professional review! Thank you

Awesome review as always!!! When it comes to miter saws Makita can't be beat. I agree it needs a shadow line instead of laser. For the past several years this saw has been offered at $249 with 4 batteries...incredible deal! Thanks again

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@codyhagedorn7399

3 жыл бұрын

Where can o buy it for 249$???

@treystills

3 жыл бұрын

@@codyhagedorn7399 past 2-3 yrs they've had an annual sale. Currently not offered at that price. May see something around xmas

@MichaelBrown-kk6ck

3 жыл бұрын

@@treystills That’ll be time to outfit my shop on Black Friday sales. Want this Makita mitre saw, Makita cordless track saw, TSO TPG track accessory kit, Parf sticks, oscillating multitool, a couple of routers, router table, dust collection, and maybe a table saw.

@markhale6105

Жыл бұрын

where do i get that deal?!?

Metabo hpt is at 399.99 btw kitted, plus you get a rebate with it for an additional battery or the power cable. Got this saw and it works so well

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

nice!!

Everybody's I have their own favorite but you'd least you're trying to show from your opinions what you think is the best you have to respect that you're not just saying old this is the best this the reason why this falls in this category keep up the great work Cheers With a beer

I have the Makita.... I just broke it down, cleaned out the bearings and the slide plate (the nylon ring that has lithium grease on it from factory). The slide page was heavily coated in a greasy wood pulp and quite a bit of aluminum dust from a deck we built that has aluminim embedded in the hand rails. The combination of aluminum dust had made the rotation of the base and turn base very difficult and I’d hear a metallic grinding sound. Anyway once I got it apart and cleaned, I realize the aluminum ridge of the turn base was wearing down on the nylon slide plate and in tie the nylon slide plate had actually become uneven. So I ordered a replacement slide plate, installed using new Greece etc. I then checked for square. I found the fence was off quite a lot, and had to use the maximum adjustment allowance designed into the unit. Everything else is pretty close. On a 45 miter... vs 90, I can’t seem to quite true up the cut the vertical cut, I’m off .7 hundredths of an inch when all the way to the right. If I could work with Makita to make some changes, this is what I’d request. (1) get rid of laser and go with LED shadow line. I have a Milwaukee saw with the shadow line and although the Milwaukee is used only for framing cuts.... it’s a pretty pathetic saw for trim Carpentey... a lot of slop in the slide and it cannot be tried up. Anyway the shadow line helps with low lighting situations and it can be seen in bright daylight as well. (2) machine the entire saw to be about 10lbs lighter. I believe the base and slide base are more robust than necessary and also believe the glide rails could be a little narrower in diameter with it compromising required strength. (3) seal all the bearings on the table so they can’t get clogged up with saw dust.

@badopinion

Жыл бұрын

So true, I’ve had mine apart twice to clean and re grease the table. It’s the worst part about the saw aside from the weight, it’s so damn heavy! I’m eyeballing the 7-1/4” Metabo that’s still made in Japan. Maybe it’ll get me all warm and fuzzy again thinking about the 2 jap made c10fsh saws I used to have 😊

If you were to pick up 12 inch dewalt dw 780 and makita 12 inch slide compound i have Had too many problems with metabo It doesnt slide very well

Great job as always! Very thorough and insightful testing as always. My only suggestion would be to test accuracy of the miter at 45° with 1 x 6 red oak. That will show deficiencies easily.

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

good feedback thx

@lilchirp4846

3 жыл бұрын

did you check for cut quality? some could have more blade wobble. and when adjusting the angle some have more slop than others in their bevel notches when it locks in.

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

@Loyd 503 no plans as of yet

I just bought the Milwaukee 10" for finish carpentry. Works pretty good. Trimmed out a house all day long and my hd12 battery was only 1/2 down. NOW for the problem I have. Please let me know if you have this issue too. When dropping the miter saw blade to a 45 degree angle. The blade protector binds on the bed when pulling the blade straight downwards, like it doesn't get out of the way fast enough, To help this i have to pull the blade all the way forward and push backwards to help the guard rotate upwards like its suppose to. Its a real pain in the ass when slicing at a 45 degree angle and the guard is stopping the blade from finishing the cut.

Thanks for the info as always. I know this is a tough one for ya’s as there are just SO many variables And personal preferences with miter saws. I was looking forward to grabbing makitas 10” until they dropped the 12” only to wind up not being able to pass up the versatility and comparably capable (not nearly the quality of makitas) for what I paid 😯including free battery rebate. 😉. Regardless of price I can’t say I regret it its most definitely the most versatile 10” sliding dual bevel on the market brought home by the shore power option. after smh on some of the notable QC fit and finish issues and acclimating to things like the unlocked detent slop 🧐. I’ve grown to find it’s user ability + ease of adjustability almost indispensable. Particularly on a dual bevel slider. Not to mention for a dual bevel slider it delivers where functionality matters. Namely rail slide and rigidity, bevel capability and ease of bevel use and fence relation. Also dust management even with the collection bag is surprisingly efficient. Weight ain’t bad either. Thanks again for the quality reviews. Btw do makitas max blades stack in the to mid - higher end blades category?

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

mid to high. Not highest

@drewt6235

3 жыл бұрын

@@ConcordCarpenter thanks. Good to know. Again appreciate you all!

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

tanks for commenting

The Makita is running $150 off for the kit + 2 free 5 ah batteries. So you can get the saw, four 5amp batteries and a dual port rapid charger for $500 until the end of October. Easily the best saw I've ever used and more power than my previous corded 10" saw. My only complaints are that I prefer the shadow line to the laser, the fence is a bit awkward to adjust for bevel cuts, and I'd like an optional lock a 0°. The you can't tilt the saw to the right without unlocking, but it tilts to the left freely. While this is definitely convenient and fast when you're making a lot of varied cuts, it would be nice to have it locked in in both directions when I'm making repeated 90° cuts.

Great video! I can't wait for the video on the 12" so I can see the new Bosch cordless

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

soon

@dwighthawkins5955

3 жыл бұрын

I collect rock serpentine and black jade. I would love to install a diamond 12 inch blade to cut large rocks IN THE FIELD. The problem; electricity and water don't mix.

Milwaukee for job site, makita for shop. Makita is the best but I don’t want to lug it around. And, I want to shadow light. Makita’s new 40 volt has the shadow line. Hope to see it reviewed soon!

Great Review

I have the Makita. I love it except for two things. Dust collection clogs when not using a vacuum and the laser vs shadow-line. But wow is it precise! I was worried about battery but not an issue unless I am doing a lot dado type cuts in 6x6. Bought mine on sale with 4 batteries included. Never going back to a cord.

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@markhale6105

Жыл бұрын

when was the sale?

I have the Makita saw, I love it! I bet all 3 mitre saws are good but the Makita has a beautiful design. I do not like the Milwaukee design at all, seems to be too long with that slide rails at the back. I'm waiting for the Makita dls610 review, currently it's available only in Japan hopefully it will be available in Europe and USA as well. 👍

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

I've run the HPT and Milwaukee pretty extensively. They're pretty comparable. The Hitachi has quite a bit more power and seems to hold rpm through cuts better but it seems like they just decided to cheap out in such odd places. The plastic detent stop is not that nice the miter lock has a threaded rod to adjust but it likes to work it's way loose, the head slides fairly rough on the rails, I ended up adjusting the saw as far as I could and I'm still about 1/2 a degree off and lastly there's quite a bit of flex in the rails. Overall though it really is a good saw it just takes a bit of work to get it set up and sort of "tuned up" The Milwaukee is a nice saw and seems a bit more like a finished product but the power just lacks and the rails coming from inside the saw can make it want to tip if you don't have it mounted to a stand. But overall for the work we do having something light weight and cordless while still having a decent cut capacity and good run time on battery is well worth the few issues. I seriously considered the Makita as I have a lot of their tools and think they make incredible tools, I just can't get past the extra weight on a saw that I just want to be easy to pull out and set up.

@TheVelluch

Жыл бұрын

I had the exact same experience as you. I loved the power of the Metabo HPT 36v, but I cant get it to cut square. There is too much movement in the head when extended. I actually use the Milwaukee 10" now, It doesn't have as much power but it cuts more accurately which is more important to me. You just have to cut a little slower at times.

I purchased the Milwaukee 7 1/4" and as a finishing carpenter l like how I can lug the saw around from room to room and gives me the accuracy in cut that I desire.

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

me too

@mor4y

3 жыл бұрын

I find the dewalt version thats the same size really handy for dragging up into awkward roof spaces, say as you're building a bay window extension, just keeps you up in the workspace instead of running up and down ladders, or trusting someone else on the grounds cut accuracy on the bigger mitre saw. Once we've built ourselves a spot to sit 2 of us plus the saw can get up into that space, and manipulate the wood easily enough to build out and finish the rest For anything else? Its junk.... eats batteries, locks up on wet wood, and our old one damm near killed our boss when he tried to mitre cut copper pipe (don't ask....) and the thing damm well exploded, literally picking bits of the safety guard and copper pipe out of the wall 15+ft away. Turns out its only rated for straight cuts on copper pipe, even with the fancy blade, its just not powerful enough to mitre soft metals safely 👀

@eyefixityouification

3 жыл бұрын

@@mor4y yikes that was scary, similar thing happened to me with cutting aluminum wrecked the blade and the piece I was cutting so bought the proper blade and no problem since I can work all day on one charge.

Solid review

Super review ! I appreciate.....

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I have been thinking about getting a battery saw. Currently, I am invested in the Milwaukee battery platform. I don’t really see the need for one though. I have a Bosch 10” that I have had for 25 years that works great and just got a Metabo 8 1/2”. I still like my Bosch better.

Have you a chance to try the 12 inch makita 40 volt? It has the shadow line.

@toolboxbuzz. I’d be curious to see how the Milwaukee holds up on accuracy over the course of time. I loved the saw out of the box and for close to a year. When it came to cutting bevels a few months back, things were off. I purchased a digital angle reader and found I was getting up to 2.75 degrees slop in bevel angle when at the 45 deg stop on both sides. The saw was still under warranty so I had it serviced at a local center. Shop said the saw was fine and that if dust builds up in the housing for bevel handle the stops will not fully engage causing said slop. I have not put it back to the test as the FlexVolt I purchased to ‘fill in’ is outstanding and super accurate. Everything about the Milwaukee batteries life and weight is great, but with the cost of building materials skyrocketing this seems like a bit of a fatal flaw (especially where the saw already lacks in dust collection). And yes, normal tool maintenance is part of my daily routine. Tech suggested taking the rear dust port off the saw and blowing the bevel housing out with compressed air. We will see I’ve mounted the saw back on a stand so I will put it to the test. As a sole proprietor, issues like this are not only expensive, but also very time consuming as a professional. Hopefully this will help she’s some light on the ‘I hate this saw’, ‘this saw sucks’ etc. If this maintenance is in fact the fix, then it should be information readily available to consumers. As it sit right now though, there are a large number of 10” Fuel owners who see that Milwaukee rolled out completely redesigned 12” & 7 1/4” cordless saws, basically realizing the design flaws in the 10” saw.

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

blowing the saw off is always good - Im curious if that was really it????

Other than the makita are there any other 10inch miter saws that will cut 4x4 or 4x12?

Any update on a possible 1/2" impact Head-2-Head?

I thought Rob liked the Festool Kapex that comes with laser on both side of the blade. It requires adjustment.

Shadowline is the feature that needs to be introduced to Makita saws ASAP. The best solution would be shadowline retrofitted as a spare part, so we could swap laser with it.

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@kizzjd9578

2 жыл бұрын

You can with the new xgt part

@Stefan_Kawalec

2 жыл бұрын

@@kizzjd9578 I haven't tried yet. I hope that part would be more or less interchangeable.

@kizzjd9578

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stefan_Kawalec I’m hoping it is, I haven’t seen the new saw in person yet to look at. I asked the makita Australia accessories guy and he didn’t answer me.

@Stefan_Kawalec

2 жыл бұрын

@@kizzjd9578 Here in Poland I have a very good contact with one of Makita's technical advisers. As for now, because XGT miter saw is fairly new, there are no service part available for end-users, only authorised services have them. But I've been promised that he'll check if XGT 12 inch shadowline is interchangeable with LXT 12 inch laser. Because I'm deep into LXT, in foreseeable futer I'm not planning to change to XGT. Thus I wasn't even looking at any XGT tools.

I am a trim guy from 80s 90s up to 2000. I was able to find a Makita LS 1011 10" miter saw. I had it restored and it became very accurate. That saw was stolen from me. Very upset over that happening. In trying to replace tools that were stolen...I found an almost exact copy. Turns out it's a Cummins 10" slider...tips to the right...same as the Makita LS 1011. The Cummins has absolutely no side play! This is due to two Allen set screws at the pivot (up and down). Great saw...I like it better than the Makita.

Makita all the way. Just wish they had a corded option with “batteries” for when you had this in your shop

@tmwoodhams

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. There shouldn't corded or cordless, just one tool. I like the idea of the Hikoki power transformer for their 36v tools. This should be how all larger tools are supplied, as you say with the option of using batteries if you want.

@alphaclean3364

3 жыл бұрын

I think makita has an X2 adapter now for mains power

@MrAidanfleming

3 жыл бұрын

@@alphaclean3364 really? Find a link please

@kizzjd9578

3 жыл бұрын

@@alphaclean3364 I haven't seen one.

@EricInTampaAcoustic

3 жыл бұрын

I got a phenomenal deal on the Makita. $400 in the box with complimentary set of Irwin clamps. Wish it had an aftermarket power cord as it’s been mentioned

Can I ask do u still have the 10 inch Milwaukee saw so u know if relisble heard the 12 inch has problems lasting?

I have the Makita and the negatives for me 1.The removable part does not line up with the bottom causing your piece of wood to lean back 2. The weight. The older I get the more that matters 3. I don't like lasers either. I have a Dewalt and love the shadow of the blade. Positives 1. Forward slide rails allow for zero clearance behind it. That's important for a shop saw. 2. Easy bevel adjustments 3. Locks down easily 4. Everything just feels like quality If they fixed the fence and swapped the laser for a light then it would be the perfect saw

I have been seriously thinking of buying the Makita 12" corded model for the shop, but I just saw a video that showed how after only 4 months the detent plate has worn out from the locking pin because the plate is made from soft aluminum. The maker of the channel said Makita has no plans to fix it. He said he found a company that will make them out of stainless steel. Key in Makita miter saw in the KZread search bar and look for Number one problem if you want to see the video. It's from December 2019.

Great video, Thank You! I love my cordless Makita, but the miter scale detent plate is soft aluminum and the detent’s will start to get bigger over time and the cuts aren’t accurate. I just changed my plate after 2 years of average use. 👍🏻👍🏻

@gosselinkfinecarpentry9786

3 жыл бұрын

akaredcrossbow @stenewoodwork on instagram has made a stainless steel detent plate for the saw it works just like the manufacturers but it doesn’t break down like the aluminum one. I’ve had mine for about a year now.

@akaredcrossbow

3 жыл бұрын

@@gosselinkfinecarpentry9786 I did check that out before I purchased the new factory one, but the price of the steel plate was to much compared to $18 for the factory plate. I will definitely buy the steel plate the next time I have to replace it. 👍🏻👍🏻

Ok I'm about to buy a Miter Saw and I don't know which one to choose DEWALT DWS780 or Milwaukee FUEL 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Brushless Cordless 12 in. Dual Bevel Sliding Compound. Please help me with this. Thank you.

Just got my milwaukee 10 inch yet to use it.

I had dewalt, milwaukee, and makita. Sold the milwaukee, kept dewalt (12) and makita (10). Milwaukee had no business being there.

@joshuaware3304

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure you did🙄

@kensfestoolchannel7916

3 жыл бұрын

Red china makes shit carpentry tools. Late to the game and still lags behind in quality. They should stick with the techs. Leave the man glitter making to the real tool companies.

@T.Y.Custom

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

@chriskarsseboom2200

3 жыл бұрын

Ken’s Festool Channel all those brands are made in China dude.

Great job as usual Rob! 👍😎 Team Red all the way!

Are the clamps able to slide or do they just stay on the outer edge of the track

Damn, Dewalt have a 10 inch but it's in Australia. Would have been hard to source but it would have been great to see.

Because I constantly work it a tight space (England) I choose Makita.

I have been using the Makita for a couple years and have had a few accuracy issues. The bevel adjustment is in the line of sight. The laser is often out of adjustment. The dust collection is cumbersome and over engineered. The aluminum detent wore out fast. I invested $150 in an aftermarket stainless steel detent. The saw is extremely heavy for a 10” saw. I’m looking at switching to the Milwaukee saw. I’m curious about how much head deflection there is?

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

It’s pretty stiff, they will all move slightly if you pull on them. You have to useable of these saws with that in mind. Use a chop technique

That Makita sounds like it is a winner looking how that slide is built how beefy and heavy the glides are sounds like something you’ll be passing down to your grandchildren. Little heavy for the jobsites but I’ll let my grandson carry it for me lol

I'm waiting to see what Makita does with the 40v Max line in the US. Once I see reviews of 40V Max vs 18v x 2 I'll make a decision.... on which Makita :)

@HelenaOfDetroit

3 жыл бұрын

I'm also waiting

This saw was one of the reasons I have been switching many if my cordless contractor grade tools over to Metabo HPT over my Milwaukee and Makita tools The AC adapter, lifetime warranty, price, function and power are all strengths of the Metabo HPT cordless tools-especially the 36V However some.of the 18V tools are good as well The 10" fill size table saw, SDS Max rotary drill, 1/2" full size plunge router, hammer drill, shop vacuum, portable band saw and 1/2 and 3/4 impact wrenches all are tools that have replaced the red and blue in my shop and truck The AC adapter guarantees longer running time and longer longevity for the tool

@kizzjd9578

2 жыл бұрын

Not really. It looks overheats so easily and you gotta let it cool down for 10mins. Also doesn’t give you any extra power.

@baseballdude8491

2 жыл бұрын

@@kizzjd9578 we have 3 10" Metabo HPT 36V Mitre saws-none if them over heat-if you are having that problem then change your blade

@kizzjd9578

2 жыл бұрын

@@baseballdude8491 new blade doesn’t do anything mate. It only overheats on the ac adapter. The table saw and the 10” mitre saw. Both does the same.

@baseballdude8491

2 жыл бұрын

@@kizzjd9578 it's not overheating.the fan runs much of the time it's running We have 3 adapters and have run em hard on SDS Max rotary hammers, table saws, grinders, porta bands, Recip saws and others with no issues Just saved battery life

@kizzjd9578

2 жыл бұрын

@@baseballdude8491 well maybe my adapter is fkd then because the fan runs constantly and if you push it too hard it wont run the tool for about 10mins.

3:17 That looks like the 7-1/4” saw I’d like to see!!

Thank you!

Need to test crosscuts in oak or maple. Don't do much trim in S-P-F or lams

Awesome review! Really thorough. Hoping dewalt comes out with a flexvolt 10”

@garethheathcote4988

3 жыл бұрын

Order one from the uk mate,they have had a single battery 8 inch and double battery 10 inch flex volts out for years now over here.

@mobuctze87

3 жыл бұрын

@@garethheathcote4988 why do tool companies hate certain parts of the world 😂 it would make so much sense for them to sell that here because I have the 7-1/4 and it lacks a lot of features. But I’ll look into that thanks!

How does the cordless Makita XSL06PT compare to the Makita LS1019L? Is it basically the same saw, but just the corded version?

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

same