Spot on. For me there was no amount of brutal kills that could cover up the bad writing. It actually felt like a comedy gone very wrong. I hope, like you, the 3rd one can save the trilogy, but at this moment in time it’s a mess.

@thepossessor

2 жыл бұрын

They should have never bothered to bring this franchise back with Halloween 2018 in the first place

When the black chick shot herself with that recoilless deagle I thought I was watching a comedy

This film was like watching a train wreck up close on a macro lens. Deep sigh

@dench2695

2 жыл бұрын

It’ll be okay. Just breathe and take a Xanax.

Hawkins being the one to tell Laurie that Myers wasn't after her, rather than Allyson telling her, makes no sense. Hawkins was busy bleeding out on the ground when Sartain explained to Allyson, inside the police car, his plan to bring Michael to Laurie's house to reunite them. There's no way Hawkins could have heard them.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

That never occurred to me. You're right.

@realninjaent544

2 жыл бұрын

Your thinking too hard. Sartain slit hawkins throat after they had Michael knocked out, so he obviously knew he was evil and sick. Then Laurie tells him that they defeated Michael in her house, so it's not that hard to put two and two together. The last thing he saw was sartain driving away with Michael.

If we are to believe the newly established reality that says Michael doesn't care about Lauri ..why the hell are we investing in her plot line in the next film? He's not coming for her yet we're to believe that an 70 old wounded woman is going to go actively hunt down a psychopath mythical killer for some sort of vengeance over her daughter's death? That makes no damn plausible sense ..she could literally just leave town at this point and Mike wouldn't even know apparently lol

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly this ^^^

@parcreverie525

2 жыл бұрын

I get your point, but if the central conceit of this reboot (that it's an examination of the aftereffects of trauma) is to be believed, then I think you can understand why we should care. The randomness of the 78 killing spree doesn't make it any more random for the character of Laurie - it ruined her life regardless of whether Michael gives a shit. DGG is a competent filmmaker, and I want to believe that HK was intended to be this kind of frenzied precursor to a much more elemental and spare Halloween Ends. Who knows. I want to believe that this is the intention, but could be wishful thinking at this stage...

@d3l3tes00n

2 жыл бұрын

@@parcreverie525 Only like 5 people died though since they erased al of the other movies.. lol it seems ridiculous to have a whole town traumatized over that. When Danny Mcbride is involved, I have zero hope.

@billsimms2511

2 жыл бұрын

Good point and let’s not forget that Halloween Ends starts with a 4 year jump in time from the end of Halloween Kills. So now we will have two senior citizens fighting .. who is really interested in seeing Jamie fight Michael yet again? We’ve seen them fight many times at this point so it’s just so meh

@billsimms2511

2 жыл бұрын

@@d3l3tes00n exactly, the writers eliminating all sequels really hurts the original imo and it messes 2018 up in that the town wouldn’t be that traumatized nor would Jamie be so certain that Michael is coming back for her again It’s just a mess and I have no hope for Ends

Let's Wipe the Slate Clean and Retcon Every Sequel. Were Not Gonna Make the Same Mistakes as the Previous Sequels with the Plot; and Drive the Series Off a Cliff!! Were gonna make the Same the Mistakes and Worse!! Pack a Ton of Fanservice Characters into a Clown Car, Set it on FIRE... and Crash it into a GAS STATION!!

@chrissweet6369

2 жыл бұрын

And that gas station is right next to a Nuclear plant.

Brilliant review. Sums up my thoughts on the film perfectly. I think if you're someone who likes the higher body counts, spectacle and gore of Halloween's 2 and 4, and you don't particularly care for a deeper or more coherent story, you'll probably enjoy this film. But otherwise, I thought it was pretty disappointing. I don't like the move towards making Michael a supernatural entity after they retconned all the sequels to try and make him a "flesh and blood man" again, only to turn on a dime and do the opposite. No way he's getting up after being shot, stabbed, burnt, beaten to a pulp, getting his head kicked in, and having a pitchfork rammed into his spine.

@lopirobinson1991

2 жыл бұрын

It’s kind of impossible to make him anything other than something more when they do what they do to him in the films. If they made him a normal man it would be so stupid, unless they dialed back the violence done to him. He would’ve died from blood loss alone before the end of the film. Hannibal Lecter doesn’t get shot up and stabbed and lose fingers and hit by cars and beaten then get back up because he is a normal man. It wouldn’t make any sense if he was Joe down the street. In Scream, those are normal humans and after they get stabbed a couple times and then shot they die. Michael has enough happen to him to kill 6 people, let alone one.

@d3l3tes00n

2 жыл бұрын

H2 is my favorite, but this was pure trash.

@billsimms2511

2 жыл бұрын

Well Gordon Green said his version of Michael is not a supernatural entity but from what I’ve seen in Killsge pretty much is. He’s 60 years old and able to getaway with quite a bit

This one didn't even try to be scary. unforgivable. it took the Halloween 4 approach. may as well have gotten Michael bay to produce it and Marcus nispel to direct. would have turned out the same.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Harsh but true.

Halloween (1978) ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Halloween (2018) ⭐⭐ I might skip Kills and Ends and in my rating system that would give both ZERO stars.

For me, it suffers a lot of the Missing Act 3 Syndrome that has been prevalent in a lot of blockbuster attempts for the last decade or so. I mean. It's a fun ride while it lasts. But my brain tends to be lead to believe that a real show-stopper of a climax is going to cap things off. But. No. As act two ends, so does the film. And I ask... Wait, that was it?? People may complain about James Wans Malignant. But that was one heckuvan ending. Halloween Kills sets up that big confrontation between the Shape qnd the townsfolk surrounding him annnd.. they just cuts away to a speech only to return in bits and tiny flashes of slow mo takedowns, killing all momentum and built up hype. Sure it's middle movie. Sure they can't end with definite conclusion. But at least deliver a showstopper dance number so to speak before the year or so intermission until the last third. It was a fun flick with nice hard R violence through most of it. I just wish there was a climax of some kind.

The flashback scene with Micheal choking out the cop and him getiing accidentally shot by his poor parter was scary and sad truly powerful the rest it was ok.

I've got to be brutally honest, I really don't understand why they're still flogging this horse. Halloween (1978) would've been better off as a standalone. i respect the manner in which the original was crafted but i don't have any particular affection for it. Personally I prefer Black Christmas (1974) and classic Giallo fare, of course I understand it's impact on mainstream audiences. I thought the trailer for this film looked bloody awful tbh.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Well, you're preaching to the choir about giallo, and Black Christmas is one of the scariest movies I've ever seen. What Carpenter did in 78 on a meagre budget was to wring as much tension out of a tiny budget as he could, and in thoroughly succeeding I'm afraid he created a bottom line which is still being mined to this day.

Great review.👍👏 For me, Anthony Michael Hall is HORRENDOUS in this movie.🤦‍♀️ I watched it 4 times and it was so much more enjoyable AFTER I fast forwarded through the way too long Tommy speech at the silly bar with the puppet and ventriloquist.🙄 Not only was it ridiculous, insufferable dialogue, it was inaccurate. When was Tommy brutally attacked & why did he forget that Lindsey was with him & Laurie and how did he forget her house was across the street, not next door?🤦‍♀️ That long, dragged out hospital mixup could have been time given to a Lindsey & Laurie scene at the hospital and a Laurie & Sheriff Bracket scene when she woke up after surgery. Powerful moments that could have been.🤦 HATED what Frank said to Laurie, “it’s not about you”. Am I the only one who remembers Halloween 1978? She saw him stalk her all day. He then killed her friends and put them on display for her. He then repeatedly attacked her. That’s all she knows and has ever been aware of. How could she not always believe that it’s about her? Hated that line!🤦‍♂️ There needed to be much more screen time for Lindsey & Marion. Why did it have to be them at a silly bar? Why couldn’t we see each of them in their homes watching the news and then they each rush to the hospital? Was a second fight between Lindsey & Michael cut from the film? I can’t figure out why she was in such worse shape and down near the bridge when they found her. Something is missing. Tommy’s line to Lonnie outside about Laurie “I’m glad she survived “. This is supposed to be Tommy & Laurie. That delivery by him was absolutely awful.🤦‍♀️ There were a lot of things I liked about the movie but there are just as many things I didn’t like.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Someone else questioned whether something was cut from Lindsey's confrontation, asking at what point Michael posed the bodies of the other victims. I'd have gladly seen that confromation expanded upon at the expense of any Tommy or mob moment.

By the time it got to the Big John & Little John scene, I wanted to throw my tv out the window. I need to know how much JLC is getting paid for these because she called this movie a "masterpiece" & keeps saying how the next one will blow our minds... Best part for me was Michael himself. I thought the mask & his personality were great.. (sticking all those different knives into that older man in the kitchen was gold lol), but everything else around him was a disaster.

As this is the middle of the trilogy, it's like they are building Michael to be a force of nature and this is HIS movie. So the final showdown happens. I love this approach, but I feel the subplot with the escape convict killing himself was unnecessary.

@leticiarodriguez383

2 жыл бұрын

I believe the escape convict scene was only necessary to demonstrate the downside of mob mentality where fear mongering drives people to do unspeakable things and pure chaos.

@busfare5660

2 жыл бұрын

@@leticiarodriguez383 yeah I understand it's point, but it could have been done better. Can't remember which Halloween did it, but a bunch of the town went out looking for Michael and made a mistake and shot and killed a random guy in a Michael Myers mask, I felt that was a better way of doing it.

Good point about negative space. The scene with the clotheline in the original film always scares me. It's such a simple visual concept, but very effective. I haven't seen this one, but I'll probably check it out at some point with low expectations. Great discussion as always.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't want to put anyone off seeing it, but low expectations might be the way to go.

i felt like the 3rd act needed some genuinely scarier moments, the fast pace of the movie should have slowed down a little bit for the finale and given us a little more tension

🤓I know it's a $20million$ budget. They should've invested in the background music. More effort in the scary killing and chase music. The new ACTORS WEREN'T CONVINCING. ESPECIALLY LINDSEY PART AT THE PARK "go now. Run don't look back" 😐😑🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Dude, the mask in Halloween II is the same mask from 78, the reason it looks different for the most part is Dick Warlock has a wider head than Castle, So it was stretched & distorted while he was wearing it, also it sat under Debora Hill's bed for 2 years and she was a heavy smoker.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Well thanks for letting me know. No wonder it looks like ass!

I especially appreciated your discussion about flashbacks. 😃

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

So we just finally watched this movie and the first thing I did was come back and watch your review, so here we go!!!!

Spot on. I'm surprised anyone liked this. Halloween 2018 was watchable but this was just hot garbage IMO. Hopefully Scream 5 is good!

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

I'm really holding out for Scream 5 (and have my eternal gratitude for calling that film by its proper name!)

@patrickdoherty4527

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse Ha! Love the Scream movies. Really hope they manage to keep with tradition and do something interesting.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickdoherty4527 Coincidentally enough I think the opportunity is there to do something Scream-like with the notion of legacy sequels just like Halloween which ignore the sequels.

I understand your frustrations, the kills didn't bother me except the way they were carried out.... 'there's someone in the house, I'll just go check' it would have worked better if the couple in Myers house brought the mob there rather than having them die for not showing common sense and getting out of there. The 1978 parts I loved and I am glad they explained the Sartain twist. The last bit was good but will need to be explained thoroughly in Ends. I think Ends will take place in 2023.... on the 60th anniversary of Judith's death.

I've been thinking (I know, working without tools again) and I feel that H2018 was a very effective bookend/resolution to the 2-film arc of 1978/2018. I realize now why my heart sank when I heard that there were going to be two more films. The prospect of ANY follow-up to 2018 would, to my mind, invalidate that two-film arc to some degree. In a way, I think that's why I disliked the latest Bond film. The first two Craig films made a very satisfying story arc and when they started retconning a link between those and his last two films, they retroactively diminished the prior movies. I'm not happy. (Stamps tiny feet)

This movie had more of a comedy factor like Jason vs Freddy (which I love). Did not feel like a Halloween movie.

i see SO many rants about this film! ANd it deserves all the hate it gets! Part 6 should have been the last film made. Or continue from 6 the way Farrands wanted to do instead of the endless crap we have had instead since

Pretty much agree with everything you said

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad it's not me going crazy!

Would it be going too far out on the limb to say this movie has the worst dialogue of any major motion picture released in the last..20 years? Shockingly bad film.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

I've forgotten almost all the dialogue, but I wouldn't be surprised. I do remember that pretty much every half-baked theme is said out loud by someone at some point in case the audience misses it.

@Kopers30

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse a highlight for me is when the dad brings his son and his sons gf to fight Michael at his house. I say to my buddies “Did this dipshit really bring two 16 year olds, let alone his son and gf to fight Michael Myers?” A second later that character says “Did I just bring my kid right into the belly of the beast?!?” Can’t make this stuff up. Lol

@markgillespie3971

2 жыл бұрын

Agree with this and surprised more people haven't mentioned it. Worst dialogue I can remember - cheesy, cliched, repetitive nonsense.

Nothing can save Halloween Kills. Absolutely nothing.

To summarize the sheer stupidity of the movie that is Halloween Kills, I'll somewhat quote Tommy Doyle, it might not be his exact word, but here it is ... "We don't know what he looks like, he's always worn a mask". What? No, he's worn the mask one day in 1978, and another day in 2018. He's been incarcerated the vast majority of his life, and they want us to believe he's still this mystical presence and no one knew what he looked like during the Benny Hill chase scene in the hospital, not even the cops? No mug shots, no documentary were ever made on the man that terrorized Haddonfield in 1978, and continues to cast this shadow forty years later? lol They are looking for Michael Myers in Halloween Kills, but no police presence in the streets? No choppers? I could go on and on, I'm sorry, this movie was so DUMB. This trilogy is a rehash of all of the previous movies, put together by two clowns, who most likely had good intentions, but failed miserably. I need to watch this train wreck again tonight, they don't make good comedies anymore, and I need a good laugh this weekend.

@patrickdoherty4527

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, exactly! He's a crazy man who killed a (relatively) small number of people in the 70s. They want us to buy into the myth of Michael Myers but they retconned all the sequels which helped establish him as an unstoppable killer. "No mug shots, no documentary were ever made on the man that terrorized Haddonfield in 1978, and continues to cast this shadow forty years later?" That would have made for a much more interesting film, like a mockumentary about what happened. I know that would NEVER get green lit but still. The climax could have been the documentary crew coming face to face with Michael.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Very, very good point.

@danjacques77

2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickdoherty4527 Or, this movie's title is Halloween Kills, and we know the next one will be called Halloween Ends. Let this movie be a vicious bloody carnage, where Myers kills everything on his path. As the body count accumulates, tension between the people of Haddonfield and the police force rises. In the middle of it, we watch Laurie Strodes fight for her life and grows weaker and weaker as the body count increases. You end the movie with her dying, it becomes breaking news all over the place, Laurie Strodes, original survivor of Michael Myers, finally died of her injuries inflicted by Myers. The music kicks in, and the mob goes on a hunt ... to be concluded in Halloween Ends. No need for crap story like we got with Tommy Doyle, Lindsey, or fucking Lonnie, who's character arc is that he finally finds the courage to go in the Myers house 40 years later.

@patrickdoherty4527

2 жыл бұрын

@@danjacques77 Yeah, there are so many things they could have done. I still can't believe they retconned all the sequels (and were very dismissive of II) for...THIS!.

@nythyhel

2 жыл бұрын

His face was shown on a TV news show in the bar that night but no one looked 🤣

I agree sooo much with your review on this. To me, this isn't Michael myers. The original is the Michael that I love and is genuinely terrifying. I thought 2018 was a decent movie except the unneeded side plot with the doctor and the the overly cartoon like death of the doctor. The death of the nurse in this movie is something I'd expect from John wick (which would suit that movie) and I was like "what the actual hell was that?!". The finger poke to the eyes death scene again made me go "that's just stupid" (I know it's a Halloween 4 reference but try and keep it more grounded in reality rather than "look at this cool shit!"). Big John just stands there and grieves his partner for literally one second before he let's Michael know he's there by saying "you've come home". No shit sherlock, run! Ohhh boy. Halloween ends is going to have Michael talking isn't it.. how noone since the original has been able to actually understand the character of Michael genuinely confuses me.

I dug it, but could have dialed back the mob and 'social commentary'. Surprising kills and nice Loomis addition. I think they try to explain the carnage with Laurie's 'masterpiece' comment. I like that they focus more on Michael's non-human existence. Great overview, Andrew! Always is.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad someone likes it, I really am.

Excellent review - I concur. I was so looking forward to this film but found the story way too complicated, far too many characters and needless cameos and the kill scenes much too graphic for me. I hadn't considered that this movie really wasn't needed and they could go straight to Halloween Ends - interesting. Anyway, disappointing but still somewhat watchable.

It could work but god it was crazy from the dialogue to the ridiculous actions taken bye characters

Agree with it working best when it was ambiguous if Michael was just tough or supernatural. This one him being supernatural was the only way he could survive those multiple beatdowns...

I agree with most of what you say and think of this movie. It is a mess. However in Ends I'm predicting Laurie will be killed and the torch for taking Michael out will be given to Allison. It was purposely set up this way so the franchise can go on and on. Just my two cents

Great review!!!! I felt like it was an good Halloween movie, like in the Part four and part five level, but nothing up to the standards of the last one.

Yeah I figured this one would likely go along these lines. I haven't watched it yet, but I thought I'd check out your spoiler review anyway - there weren't going to be any surprises from this film, haha. Good to hear your observations on it Andrew.

YES!... I watched like 10 videos before this praising this film and I can't understand why!?.. I really hated the dialog and I though the movie was super cheesy (and not in a good way)... I think Michael Myers was cool and brutal and he was done well but other than that, this movie had nothing that i liked personally.

This will be a long one! First the flash back looked great but tonally it was all wrong, instead of having a very serious tone the kids are written very badly and act really badly and a cop leaves them to fend for themselves with a killer on the lose and all the cops looking for Michael act like bumbling morons and it really hurt the flashback! I have to point this out in 2018 the cops before Michael killed them phoned in a dead body, there is no way more cops were not on the way and how could the fire fighters get there first and the fire fighter stand around and only go at Michael one at a time and it looked abet stupid even if the sequence was cool! There is no way Hawkins is alive, in 2018 Sartain stabbed him multiple times and than ran him over with the car and Cameron did not find him right away or he would have been at the hospital long before Laurie! Tommy, Lindsay, Marion and Brackett are wasted and we learn nothing about them in this movie and there is no meaningful scenes between Laurie and Lindsay or Laurie and Brackett or Laurie and Marion! Marion's death was stupid she kicks open the door eliminating her only barrier between her and Michael gets Michael's attention and she said this is for Loomis and she is out of bullets and she does not even try and go out her side of the car and just excepts her faith! That couple that joined them the woman disappears while Michael is killing Marion and her husband and only comes back to try and shoot him after everyone is dead and she gets to close even though she has a clear shot and Michael causes her to shoot herself, which looked stupid! Lindsay does put up a good fight but her chase sequence was over way to fast and she is sidelined the rest of the movie! The two subplots in this movie the hospital and Myers house with the 2 guys was horrible and completely ruined the flow of the movie! Laurie and Hawkins had some good scenes together and Karen was actually good in this movie but there characters are sidelined so much of the movie that it really hurts things! I admit I did like Lonnie but he brings his son and Allison to the Myers house and tells them to stay in the car while he goes in by himself and never thought to call for backup on the way to the Myers house which seems like a very long drive! The mob at the end of the movie you expect me to believe only two people had guns and when Michael is out cold instead of continuing to hit him they just let Brackett go in for the finishing shot giving Michael a chance to recover and no one thought to fall back and get in there car and run him over! When Allison and Cameron enter the Myers house the tension is ruined by that song on the record player and they take time to examine the dead bodies and Cameron who was better in this movie leaves Allison to continue searching and when he sees his dad and than Michael charges at him he did nothing but freeze up and Allison was the one that tried to save him and he really did nothing in this movie! I liked seeing Karen saving Allison and having Michael follow her to the ambush but number one she should have stabbed him a few times with that pitch fork and number two she should have stayed to make sure Michael was finished! How Michael suddenly appeared behind Karen is up for debate because there was no way he could have gone up the stairs! The other question from the abrupt ending is Karen alive or dead, I know from the leaked script there was an extended sequence that would have confirmed that Karen was dead but I suspect it was removed to give them an out and I noticed something similar with Tommy and Bracket's deaths! This movie is poorly written, has terrible dialog, braindead characters, wasted legacy characters, horrible subplots, horrible pacing, very little suspense, this movie is a mess!

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to share this. I can't disagree with any of it.

Michael Wick

Halloween should've stayed dead after zombies stuff really it should've ended way before but definitely after zombies films 1,2,4 are my favorites the rest are time wasting films for me.

I felt that H2018 was a really good bookend for the first film and when I heard that two more were being made, I knew I wasn't going to be seeing them. Thanks for the affirmation.

I totally echo your views on this car crash of a movie. I was so disappointed with it. At times, it didn't even seem like a Halloween movie. A missed opportunity here, and I am certainly not holding my breath that Halloween Ends will be any better.

The only thing I enjoyed about this film was some of the kills. Other than that it is absolutely terrible in every way. The firefighter massacre scene was cartoonishly stupid. The random chanting back and forth of "evil dies tonight" was embarrassingly stupid. The scene at the end where he allows everyone to beat the shit out of him only to come back and destroy them one by one like John Wick or some shit....the dialogue in general was just awful and why did Tommy Doyle go to a talent show to talk about how he almost got killed 40 years ago!?!?

@chrissweet6369

2 жыл бұрын

I couldnt agree more, The Tommy Doyle plot line was fucking terrible. The bringing back of this old characters was desperate and it showed.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Holy shit when you put it that way, yeah, Tommy Doyle's open mic night act is really bad!

I think I liked it slightly more than you, but not by much. The part that is a body-count film is really well done (the light tube kill, for instance). I liked the more modern take on the mob mentality, but, yeah, it didn't resolve. I thought they might be going for a defund-the-police thing (forgot about when it was filmed), but the film seems to straddle the fence on whether you should or shouldn't trust the system. I hated the ending, though. To me, "it really sets up the next film" is not a plus for a film. Have a structure for the film you got. It's not a TV show.

I felt the same way during this film- where's the tension that some of these characters could get out alive? Watching Prom Night after this actually made me appreciate a human slasher. It seemed like a foregone conclusion that they'd all die. It's also apparent that we the viewer care more about these "loose ends" of previous survivors getting killed than Michael. Within this new mythology of Michael as complete inescapable monster- why does he choose to now pose the victims? The death tableaus don't make sense to me, even as they satisfy the macabre, as there is no motivation for Michael to do so. His nest is the house and becoming this symbol of evil incarnate so his singular motivation wouldn't care for posing. The muddy themes also come through with all of the monologues- mob justice, becoming the evil- standing in evil's shoes. They felt more like an outlined concept that the writer wanted to achieve- rather than them actually coming through on film.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Very well said. I think you're right, there's not a theme or motivation that's not put into a character's mouth (and usually for them to shout) in case anyone watching can't keep up.

Excellent review.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

Ha Ha. I love your passionate frustrated angry rants Andrew! I almost want to go see the movie now! Thanks for sharing

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Steve.

I’m really surprised at the amount of people defending this … it’s an absolute cringe fest.

@erin.v.m657

2 жыл бұрын

Same. I think people wanted to like it so much that they're happy lying about how great it is. It's absolute shite. I'm a Halloween purist, and this "film" is an abomination.

@JR17_561

2 жыл бұрын

@@erin.v.m657 I actually really love this film. It’s my favorite of the Halloween franchise now. The kills were brutal and sadistic and i loved all of them. This gets a 10/10, love the fact how Micheal is pissed and he doesn’t bother to be sneaky like the old films and just goes on a rampage.

@JR17_561

2 жыл бұрын

I love this film. And I’ll keep defending my opinions why i love it. Like how brutal Michael Myers is in this film. Can’t wait for Halloween Ends.

Yes, this was a major disappointment. The film had a nice opening for the most part, but after the opening credits it just declined to a total anti-climax and just stops rather than ends. Yeah, the survivors are so stupid in this film and it was really a crying shame that *Jamie Lee Curtis as Laurie is SIDELINED in her own story.* Halloween (1978), Halloween II (1981), Halloween IV-The Return Of Michael Myers (1988), Halloween H20-20 Years Later (1998), & Halloween (2018) are all awesome. The rest are either garbage or mediocre as hell as far as I am concerned.

Why would they kill off ma boy Tommy????!!!!

Love this movie I was going for Michael Myers the whole movie these were some of the dumbest characters ever this man took out a dozen firefighters with axes and chainsaw and they trying to kill him with bats and sticks plus the escaped patient was a good idea just did poorly they should have went a different route

Didn’t care for the rob zombie micheal Meyers clone copy wanted the original stalker Meyers who didn’t kill half the town

The only thing I liked about this movie was the opening title sequence and the new theme by John Carpenter's son. Absolutely hated this entry. However, it did inspire me to start making my own stop motion Halloween fan film, The Night Before He Came Home, which I have completed just in time for the holiday just in case Halloween Ends sucks.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

Жыл бұрын

Are you planning to share your Halloween animation?

@ardentemagination5462

Жыл бұрын

@@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse Yes, I am. I have a planned Boo-fest from Oct. 24-31 (a video each day leading to my Halloween tribute)

@ardentemagination5462

Жыл бұрын

@@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse My Halloween Trailer kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKmXtcOLgZaeiso.html

Gordon Greene prolly just wants to “get it over with” at this point. I don’t feel the love, the passion, the dedication in these films. It was pure slasher gore porn that took a huge old dump in the punch bowl. How dare these creators put down the older sequels when 1981’s Halloween 2 was exponentially superior.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

Жыл бұрын

My love for Halloween 4 has grown over the years as well.

I don't know. I think YOU do a pretty good Donald Pleasance voice.

After watching this last night I have a greater appreciation for Rob Zombies movies. I enjoyed some scenes and I can’t fault the effects. But you hit the nail on the head that Laurie is sidelined in her own movie, there was no purpose to her scenes with the cop in the hospital and many of the flashbacks. In the other movies you don’t realise Michael is there until it’s too late but, as you pointed out, he’s become a bit more like Jason which makes him less scary in my opinion.

@rockybalboa4593

2 жыл бұрын

Laurie is sidelined in her own movie? Wrong. This was never intended to be “Laurie’s movie.” whatsoever. It was the town’s movie. That’s been established all along from the very beginning.

@chrissweet6369

2 жыл бұрын

Rob Zombies H2 I think gets a bad wrap. It tried something different. Its way better than this new hot mess they called Halloween Kills.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

I've always liked Rob Zombie's iteration and ages ago did a video defending them. The good thing about them is they stand absolutely alone - if you don't like them it's really easy to ignore them; if you fancy a little RZ flavoured Michael Myers they're right there.

I hated 2018 Halloween, absolute rubbish compared to the original and part 2. This was ok, still terrible script, turning Michael into Jason is stupid. Made zero sense, so what he can take on all those firefighters, the mob at the end but he can be captured like he was in the flashbacks. They took all his mystery away by making him an invincible superhuman.

Okay so! We are so much on the same page with this movie where I knew what you were gonna say before you said it hahah/ Oh my so we saw this disjointed convoluted mess and went for a few beers and said to each other, "do we want to do a review on this" and we said no, we don't want to talk about it any more. RIP Halloween. Carpenter said Halloween II was a abomination? then what the fuck was this?

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Man, I wish I had someone to go for a beer with after I saw the film! I'm really, really hoping Halloween ends will just turn this into a weird, messy, bloody blip in the story they want to tell. I'm not holding my breath.

03:46 have you ever watched Chicago fire ? 😁

Dude, I just found you on KZread because I was searching up reviews for this awful movie (lol), and I grew instantly jealous of your collection in the background! Can you clarify who’s in the photos with you on the wall? I recognize Robert Englund, but I can’t identify the others. Edit: there was one line in the movie that sent literal chills down my spine (*Spoiler Alert*): When Little John sees Michael’s bloody handprint on the wall, he turns to Big John & fearfully whispers “There’s someone in our house, and it’s *not* a child.” The delivery on that one line scared me more than the rest of the movie itself, and to me it seems like a good example of “good actors, bad directing/writing.”

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you found me, welcome to my Horror House! In the background there are photos with Andrew Robinson, Tobin Bell, Robert Englund (as you spotted) in Freddy makeup and Ken Kirzinger in Jason costume. You've reminded me I need to get my photo with Dario Argento framed and on the wall, thanks!

@SpiritedHeart94

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse The Director of Suspiria?! Oh my god now I’m even more jealous! 😂 Edit: I just found & listened to your reading of Crowthorne, and I absolutely *loved* it (that reveal though! I admit you actually got me with that!), so I’m subscribing. 😊

Do you go out of your way to look like Nick Cave's Renfield in Bram Stoker's Dracula? I sincerely don't mean that as an insult, it's a great look on you, ha.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

You're not the first person to point out the resemblance, and I never take it as an insult, but it's just one of those things, not a conscious attempt on my part.

Halloween 1978 and Halloween II 1981 for me are great classics.. the rest are sorta unnecessary sequels.. I guess Halloween III technically wasn't bad as it's own movie but it was just unnecessary..

2018 was bad enough. No interest in this timeline, I'm afraid.

noticed your Rob Zombiess Myers mask 🙂😎

Only liked the flash back 🤔

The movie is way over the top, too over the top

These films have nothing in common with Zombies Fuckoweens

The original Halloween 1,2 & 3 were the last Halloween movies that were any good

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

I've come to appreciate 4 with each subsequent bad Michael Myers movie (admitting that you have to forget the end of 2 happened!), but you make a fair point.

@Veniceredmask01

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse the whole ethos of the original Halloween is loneliness. No matter how many people are around Laurie she is lonely she is disconnected to everyone around her. The same with Dr Loomis no one listens to him so he is disconnected too. It’s the loneliness that makes the original movie terrifying. What lurks within our own loneliness a darkness we try to hide from by running from it. But as we all know we can’t hide from ourselves. There is darkness within us all and we see it when there is silence. That is the essence of the original Halloween. That is why it’s so terrifying.

@jdogjohnson9038

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta disagree I love Halloween 4 to me that's the last good one the rest are time wasting for me including rob zombies versions these blumhouse ones are awful.

looks like you knew it was a middle chapter going in as we all did. But like some others, you set yourself up to be "frustrated" lol. ill pass on the other 22 mins, im subbing though. Maybe your next review in the future will make me love this one lmaooooo

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to my Horror House!

Give David Gordon Green a break, he's far too busy destroying I mean creating an Exorcist trilogy while still churning out this Halloween trilogy & a Hellraiser TV show, it's a lot of shit to knock off I mean juggle. Okay I take back what I said about Halloween 4

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Now I'm just depressed.

@cuddywifter8386

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse Join the club, this echos a fad at the moment of failing Upwards of Kathleen Kennedy Star wars, Alex Kurtzman Star Trek & David Gordon Green all major horror franchises turning each one into a knock off

I didn't hate it. But I also didn't love it. Too much comedy, cringy dialogue and certain parts just felt off

Agreed, this film was a mess. Became boring about halfway through, which is terrible for a slasher movie.

It was AWFUL

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly you're right.

@dench2695

2 жыл бұрын

@@SUBWAYSWITCH *you’re - learn the language.

Why do people only nitpick Halloween movies like this? You idiots saying it’s like F13 must have never listened to what Dr Loomis said. This film is the culmination of what Loomis warned about! Michael is pure evil so sorry he should be killing like this! If people nitpicked the older schlock sequels it would be endless! For the last time all you people that like H4 that movie is utter TRASH compared to these last 2 films!

Am just sticking with the original and the proper Halloween 2 season is season is awesome even though it no Myers and still love Halloween 4 .the new 2018 Halloween only just got a pass from me whent too cinema with my lass too watch this was rolling my eyes on the cinema then got it on bluray and recently got rid of both the first and second of the new Halloween film s I tried rewatching Halloween kills it just too bad stupid dialog constantly the 40 years ago thing Danny McBride should not be let loose on any wrighing for anything serious the director green has written too he can't direct for shit which explains the even bad performance from curtis I'm gonna make a prediction this up coming ends movie will be dog shit pretty much guaranteed sorry guys am out of Halloween now. disgusting considering they had a great villain they only had to make a great straight forward slasher idiots also you could remove about 25 mins of running time from this and it may have done better the bar with Doyle too long the world war Z hospital scene where everyone victimize a 4n a half foot guy ducking idiots nonsense am out ... McBride should just stick too making movies about alien cow who smoke bongs and have lots hilarious adventures you could call it moocowbong or something now I'm a smoker of herb too but dount let these guys wright horror they can't do it !!! one final thing did anyone here apparently McBride had a better idea for Halloween than carpenters original I litteral nearly laughed myself too death when I heard this hilarious .anyways good review \ rant 😊

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

Жыл бұрын

So help me, I'd watch moocowbong!

@jamesnesbit6210

Жыл бұрын

So would I 😊

If you just got kills to cover this bad writing you don't have a movie the kills was just eye candy

@isaiahbrooks7271

2 жыл бұрын

I never seen so many dumb assholes in. This film

Excellent review this shit was complete gratuitous garbage 😂 just take this franchise out back and kill it already they've completely bastardized the lore

I genuinely thought 2018 was the second best film just behind the original. It felt like a modern version of 1978.i was excited to see the whole production team and most of the actors back. Then I watched halloween kills. What an abortion of a movie. I don't know how you go from a masterpiece reboot (2018) to this dumpster fire.

This is now my favorite Halloween movie of the franchise. Easily a 10/10 imo, loved how brutal, bloody, savage, and sadistic the kills were.

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you liked it.

Literally the ONLY Good thing about this Ridiculous Movie was the Flashback Sciences and they Finally Got Michaels Mask right!! Other than that this movie was Pathetic, And Desperate! And BTW why in the Hell was Laurie's Daughter Wearing a Christmas Sweater for Halloween!?

@GrumpyAndrewsHorrorHouse

2 жыл бұрын

I have to be honest and say that I think the Christmas Sweater is the most subtle piece of character work across both movies. After an entire childhood of hearing about her mother's experiences and fears around Halloween - and presumably Laurie going full on survivalist every October - I reckon Karen long ago made the decision to skip Halloween altogether and start prepping for Christmas each October.