This channel is like a lab for heavy metal science

3:21 runt 3:43 runt boost 4:24 hot mod 4:56 hot mod plus boost

From start to finish that amp sounded phenomenal. I need to get a piggy bank going for a Friedman!

Holy shit that sounds amazing. I was considering getting the runt 50 for a while but passed because it just didn't have the aggression I was looking for. This completely fixes that problem and then some. Maybe I need to reconsider because that's one of the best thrash tones I've ever heard.

@woltertom

2 жыл бұрын

^^^ This ^^^

I got a Runt 50 a month or so back and it sounds great and this just pushes it over the edge! Great video as always dude, thanks.

@belligerentamateur

Жыл бұрын

You bet! Enjoy the amp, the hot mod really makes it!

@jimmyhazard

Жыл бұрын

@@belligerentamateur just ordered the mod last night!

Great video Kyle! I really need this thing so badly! Thanks for that!

O dude! That mod adds a nice rasp and a ton of gain and grit. Was not expecting that much of a boost but wow. Thrash heaven for sure! 🤘🏼⚡️

The tones around 7:15 are some of the best I’ve heard on your channel. Fucking incredible, Kyle and the guys at Legendary!

Last November I Ordered the new Mister Scary mod to go with a 1987X i ordered the same month. 3 month after because of waiting time I’ve finally canceled my order for the 1987x and ordered a Runt 50. I received the amp yesterday and I plugged the mod today. What a beast. I love it so much.

So basically the last part with everything engaged sounded the best. Interesting. I thought it sounded good as u went along. I’m not one for tweaking, especially for amps of this caliber.. but well. Sometimes ya gotta do it if U want it to sound the best. Great video as always. Stay cool.

Last tones sounded phenomenal

wow the sound is fantastic

That is a seriously great tone. It's like how you would want a jcm800 to sound but it's more manageable

OMG!!! Beautiful tone !!!

I thought it sounded perfect on hot mod with no pedal boost. The perfect Marshall High Gain tone imo. I was going too get a BE OD or Keely modded TS9 but the Hot Mod seems too be The key.

Savage! Might have to get this for my runt!!!

Amazing videos man!

Holy hell, these are the most reasonably priced Friedman heads too… minus the be-mini obviously.

I like it! Sweet A/B Test. 🤘

With the Hot Mod installed it rips!!

Alright guys, that rocked! 🤘

That was a great video. Thank You!

Crazy!!!!! Great demo! Cool thing is, it’s really an organic high gain. Wonder if it would work in a Friedman Twin Sister, that has the gain structure switching…(???)

That is pretty hardcore! Wow man, super thick and chunky. Would play nice on stage and in the studio 🤘

Sounds bad ass man

Awesome Kyle, you do a great job. Wondering if it would work in a Bogner ecsty3534??

It sounds crazy great!! One question and one comment! Was the onboard boost of the Runt engaged during the video? And...it would've been cool to hear the amp wit the gain switch in without the Duality as well ;) Nonetheless, the reason I didn't buy a Runt was because of the lack of gain (for me) and I'm not a boost pedal guy but I still liked the overall tone. But with the Hot Mod...now it's reallyyy tempting haha

@tool69tool69

2 жыл бұрын

what type of music do you play?

@bengirard1984

2 жыл бұрын

@@tool69tool69 Mostly fast melodic punkrock/metal but I play also in an ambient/post hardcore/postrock project.

Oh man,at 8:05 is perfect!!!

Para mí el mejor sonido era el Amp stock con Overdrive On (sin Hot Mod V2). Pero cuando llegué al minuto 9:28 cambié de opinión. Con los ajustes finales del amp la Mod suena muy bien.

That amp would be sick for 80's 90's megadeth tones.

This is great 🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼

Sounded killer

Please capture this for cortex kyle! Sounds awesome

WOW, amazing! is this the standard or reverse wired version?

I feel like I should add, if you get the chance you should try and pair this amp with a cab loaded with Eminence Governor speakers. It’s a bit more scooped than the V30, but I feel it would pair really well with a Marshall style amp if you’re wanting to go for a more American sound. 🤔

damn that friedman sounds awesome...the thing that bugs me about 5150's/rectos is that the palm mutes massively overpower/outvolume the chords, this amp is a lot more balanced and even sounding

@s0da.-.

Жыл бұрын

I personally love it for its versatility! I lended a friend this head for a jazz gig and he said the clean tones he got were awesome! Very Fender like, i play clean blues and jazz all the time with it

Hey Kyle.. What are your thoughts on Studio Classic JCM800 vs Friedman Runt 20? Any insight would be welcome. Looking to buying one of the 2. Cheers! :)

Great demo, does this work with the Friedman jj jr?

Hey Kyle, I got the just of it. Y'all want to make it conventional? Create a way to footswitch this device.. A relay in the chain between guitar and amp. Btw, I jam on the drums to your riffs.,while constant playing my drums. I loop them. I do that with Reza also. Ola....nope, only in the mix with me & Glen Benton., you heard that right. I like these newer riffage's. You're a solid rhythm guitarist. Btw, a 'dorky' wearing glasses with those guns..? You've officially been disqualified from any nerdy'. I consider you a dependable solid beast.

Thanks again Kyle for a great demo and explanation of your setup with the hotmod.. Do you recommend any amps that do the classic rock, and 90s grunge/metal thing really well that can also do brutal metal? I'm not so much a modern metal guy although I love bands like Slipknot and Deftones. I like a really warm, thick metal, similar to the Bogner Uber or Archon 100, but something that can do those heavy tones but also the darker 90s rock and metal with great singing leads? Have you come across any? The Runt sounds great but not sure it's quite my thing. Anyway, thank you brother!

@benpotter4905

3 ай бұрын

Look into KSR. The Orion with the Hera boost are capable of that in spades!!!

Still would like you to put the hot mod in the 5150/6505 or maybe the stealth 😂 🤘🏼🤘🏼

@litos_mendes

2 жыл бұрын

doesnt work

I love Kyle's videos but one thing he's helped me realize is that if you dial in the exact same tone on every amp then there isn't much point to the tone chase and you can save a bunch of money not buying amps. I've paired down to three amps i keep on hand for completely different tones. All the big name amps are pretty awesome if you want to eq them all to sound the exact same.

@jonathanm9069

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure in the room the amps sound different.

@terryrobertson5477

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanm9069 they don’t though. I’ve had a lot of the amps he’s done videos on and yes they are very different if you use them that way but essentially what Kyle does is ra them all to be the same. Differences in the room yes but eq’d you can make them all sound very very similar

i wonder if The hot mod V2 is compatible with the Victory Sheriff.

Seems like it has more punch in the gut without the Hot Mod but less gain. Seems louder without the Hot Mod? Not sure if that's the same conclusion when you sitting next to the amp or it's just a KZread thing? But definitly way more gain for sure from the Hot Mod. Seems like it does what it's supposed to do. Pretty cool for sure.

I bought one of those hot mods but wasn’t sure which tube socket to put it in. If your looking at the back of the runt 50, is it the first second or third?

That mod does wonders with the amount of gain it adds, It would be awesome if It worked with my Marshall dsl20 or a bugera 1960 for high gain plexi tones!

@JohnSmith-ef2sx

2 жыл бұрын

Are you saying it won't work with your marshall and bugera ? Been thinking about getting one of those bugera 1960's...

@nejih1323

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-ef2sx I don't know hahaha I haven't tried the Hot Rod mod and the best reviews are done here by Kyle, but i haven't seen that mod in the amps I mentioned 😔

@brandonjackson5865

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder what it would do especially for the classic gain channel of the DSL 20 . To me that classic gain channel gain at 12 to dimed with an SD1 in front sounds better than channel two in a lot of ways . I heard that it would not be practical for the dsl 20 due to the pre amp gain staging , but I don’t know ?

@nejih1323

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandonjackson5865 I normally use the High gain Channel on the amp boosted with the mxr custom overdrive so If hace the other channel for clean tones. I don't really know about the gain staging on the amp tho 😂

@LegendaryTones

2 жыл бұрын

The reverse-wire version of the Hot Mod V2 Evo will work in the earlier Bugera 1960. The Infinium model however does some things with the voltages that doesn’t make the HMV2E work consistently with it. DSL won’t work with it also unfortunately. Here’s info on compatibility: legendarytones.com/will-my-hot-mod-v2-work-in-x-amp/ Appreciate the interest!

This thing is sick! Great demo man! Which version of the V2 evo is this?

@belligerentamateur

2 жыл бұрын

Right? This would be the reverse wired version, it has been updated to current specs with the bass and gain switches added.

@alexwalker5645

2 жыл бұрын

@@belligerentamateur Thanks my dude! Just put in the order. Can’t wait for it to come in!

@alexwalker5645

2 жыл бұрын

@@belligerentamateur Looks like you can’t use the screw to tighten and ground it to a socket base where they are recessed, and I can’t figure out where to clip the grounding wire to😅

Thoughts on the Runt 50 vs a ceriatone yeti/chupacabra?

What oickips are in that explorer? Ans are they active? I'm thinking about getting higher gain pickups, but not super high gain to where its overly muddy and compressed

Had the Runt 20 head...that was my reason for selling it, just not enough gain...picked up a DSL20HR and did A/B and the DSL had what i was looking for .... I may revisit with the Runt 50 and get the V Mod myself , sounds great

@guitarexpert2245

2 жыл бұрын

Runt 50 has EL34's as the Runt 20 has EL 84's. That definitly makes a difference. However the DSL is definitly a higher gain amp for sure. So just depends on your taste. I had a DSL20 a few years back, only sold it because it didn't have an effects loop but then the new one came out and had a loop but didn't sound the same, by then I already bought an SC20h.

Did you play the hot mod with the boost on?...and what kind of boost you use? Thx😉

Was the boost on the amp engaged?

Which Hot Mod did you get? Reverse wiring? I want to try this in mine!!!!

How does it affect the clean channel?

Is this amp actually jcm800 based? I want an 800 but can't afford one and these amps are much cheaper in comparison and sound great. I just wonder if it would scratch that itch for JCM800 type tone. I play punk mostly so i don't need the tightest tone i just want to know if this would be something to fill that role an 800 can

@belligerentamateur

9 ай бұрын

It'll get you close but it's definitely not the same.

Does the amp still sound good at bedroom volume with the Hot Mod?

8:14 kinda sounds like the tone from Endgame

Is this heavily gated? The noise floor seems very low with all that gain.

Sounds pretty decent no?

Hi Matt! Hows Ben doin?

Do they make something like this for a rectifier? This sounds incredible

@mattvdh

2 жыл бұрын

why would you need more gain on a recto? It's already got bucket loads

@jacak47410

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattvdh it doesn't for me. Unless I'm using my x2n in the bridge, medium output pickups don't do enough for me. I prefer not to run a boost.

Mesa boogie Mark series

@LegendaryTones

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve never tried one in a Boogie as I suspect it would be too much. Most Boogies it wouldn’t work in, but in theory, those that use a cathode follower tone stack might be compatible. That said, I really position these for “Marshall type” designs as that’s what they are tuned with.

What effect does it have on the clean channel?

@belligerentamateur

2 жыл бұрын

none, the clean channel has its own preamp tube in v1

Must be the 57 mic alone which always sound thin but each example sounds fizzy and thin. Very Boss metal zone ish Try a Sennheiser 906 alone or blend it.

@belligerentamateur

11 ай бұрын

No.

How about this in a Tiny Terror or a random Orange amp

@LegendaryTones

2 жыл бұрын

Most (maybe all) Orange amps I’ve seen don’t use a cathode follower in their circuit. That’s what’s the HMV2E needs to see in order to make a connection and function.

can you put that in a Runt 20? thanks great Vid

@belligerentamateur

Жыл бұрын

Yes you can!

@MrNastyguitar

Жыл бұрын

@@belligerentamateur thanks

i wonder if the hot mod would work in a peavey butcher / VTM

@LegendaryTones

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely. Just like the original Soldano Hot Mod made in the late 1980s and early 1990s, the Hot Mod V2 Evo will definitely work in those same designs.

@JuanLopez-pq6bt

2 жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTones thank you for the response! would it be the regular or the reverse wire? ill be picking one up soon

@LegendaryTones

2 жыл бұрын

@@JuanLopez-pq6bt My pleasure and thank you for the interest. Standard wire for the Peaveys.

@Blacktarprophecies

2 жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTones David, would this work in a Friedman JJ-100? I have one of the first runs of the hot mod v2 for a 2203x (different wiring for cathode stage if I remember correctly), so I'm assuming if it does work I'd probably have to order another with the standard wiring?

@LegendaryTones

2 жыл бұрын

@@Blacktarprophecies I know the JJ Jr. and Runt 50 and a few others use reverse wired versions. You may want to try it in your 100 and see. NO harm will occur with the Evo version of the Hot Mod V2 because of how the heater wiring is attached, etc. Anyhow, it will either “see” and make the connection or it won’t. So try it in likely the V3 position in that amp (and then V2 for good measure to check if it doesn’t work the first time). I just had a chat with Dave F. recently and he confirmed the HMV2E will work in nearly all of his circuits. Oh, one last thing - I’m not sure when you ordered your HMV2E for your 2203x, but check the left tube (when the switch side is facing you) as we now put in an ECC81. We find it enables the amp to clean up MUCH more smoothly and naturally when you roll your guitar volume control back, while still giving you all the gain still when you roll it back up.

Could the Hot Mod be used with a Friedman JJ jr. ?

@LegendaryTones

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the reverse-wired version will work in it. Thanks for the interest!

@guitarexpert2245

2 жыл бұрын

That would be super high gain for sure. Fun!

@paulvaden6990

2 жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTones I may have to check one out soon. Thanks for the reply!

Holy fuck

I'm asuming the hot mod would also work in the Runt 20. Would you agree?

@LegendaryTones

2 жыл бұрын

It does. Reverse-wire version in the Runt as well .

@kieranvirgo9797

2 жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTones what about the JJ jr?

@LegendaryTones

2 жыл бұрын

@@kieranvirgo9797 Yes sir. Reverse wire on the JJ JR. Thanks!

Everytime I hear a demo of the hotmod I come to the same conclusion. See to loose some bottom end. Am I right or incorrect? thanks

@belligerentamateur

2 жыл бұрын

Not in my experience

@guitarexpert2245

2 жыл бұрын

@@belligerentamateur Ok, can’t always tell over KZread. I trust your ear!

Does this mod work on a Runt 20?

@belligerentamateur

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure, you'd have to ask Dave Friedman!

So where can I get one of these?

@belligerentamateur

2 жыл бұрын

Legendarytones.com

@simontravis9828

2 жыл бұрын

@@belligerentamateur ordered it this morning. Reverse wiring as recommended by David. Can’t wait to put it in my runt/jj

Can you use that V2 Mod with a 50w EVH 6L6 or EL34?

I bought a hotmod from this video but not sure where you hooked up your ground?

@belligerentamateur

2 жыл бұрын

On the bolt of the closest transformer!

@nickdownard2672

2 жыл бұрын

@@belligerentamateur Hye, is that the preamp transformer? the one where you can see the copper, or the large black transformers?

Thumbs down. No tanktop. The Hotmod is insanely cool.