I collect physical. I'll never change until I'm forced to. Streaming is great, but the compression is way worse than physical resulting in an inferior picture.

@spicymemes7458

Ай бұрын

I'm glad you have a hobby you enjoy

@Alton7771

Ай бұрын

I agree with in principle but most people don't are about so companies will not make a profit

@gaztheman7879

Ай бұрын

It’s also the extras from commentary’s to makings of that we lose which is gone if we don’t keep it.

@StreetfighterTips

Ай бұрын

Yeah, same here. Streaming music isn't as good either. I got a DAC with USB to 3.5 mm analog since everything is BT now. UHD looks better on disc as well.

@spicymemes7458

Ай бұрын

@@gaztheman7879 Keep in mind that Denis Villenuve doesn't want deleted scenes on his DVDs, so that is even less value for your physical purchase. Not to say other directors will follow suit, but companies may try adding less content to the disc for the same price.

My wife is a librarian and she has given a whole new perspective on what it takes to actually preserve knowledge and media for future generations. Streaming is by far the most convenient thing, but it drastically reduces our chance that we'll have certain media that exist today. I do think these disc will be amazing for archiving and possibly at-home storage. With that much storage you'd be able to create your own digital library that is curated with the media you currently own. That way it's not stored off-site, but locally for you and your family to enjoy.

Physical media enthusiast here. CD's, DVD's, Blu-rays and 4K Blu-ray's are my jam. Id definitely be interested for sure

The reasons to buy physical media are: 1) you don't need a subscription. 2) you don't need internet connectivity. 3) you get the best, consistent image quality. 4) you don't fear it being removed from online catalog. 5) you better support the maker/artist with a traceable sale rather that a stream (ask the struggling Spotify streaming musician)! 6) Oh, and you potentially keep the original edit which might later be censored or 'changed' (think French Connection, ET or Star Wars).

@CatacombMan

Ай бұрын

Amen! people waking up to all the points you mention.

one disk to rule them all

As someone that works within the home video industry, I want to just say that physical media is still a very lucrative business, primarily because of the collectors, and the ability to turn a simple Blu-ray or DVD release into a limited edition, collectible set

I still buy physical media because streaming doesn't have a lot available and many things dissappear after a while. I also don't trust streaming to stay affordable. Eventually I think streaming will be overpriced and limited on product.

@stephennootens916

Ай бұрын

I hate when they pull a movie from streaming that is why I have a physical media collection and than there are things that they will never stream like Suicide Club or Taboo with Kay Perker.

@jordanparks6885

Ай бұрын

Value has been a calling card of streaming to this point, but greed is definitely beginning its (predictable) climb.

no more excuses for the video game industry to not put full games on discs and actually complete the game before they sell it.

Physical media isn’t dying. It’s just changing.

@spicymemes7458

Ай бұрын

Becoming even less convenient and unaffordable, yes

@TheLastWordWithBob

Ай бұрын

@@spicymemes7458 maybe to the lazy good for nothing slackers.

@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS

Ай бұрын

​@bobbysworld7425 how are they lazy and good for nothing?

@TheLastWordWithBob

Ай бұрын

@@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS they don’t want to get off the couch just for one minute to swap out a disc, which requires very little time and energy. They don’t want to work, correction, they want the “big paycheck” but don’t want to actually earn it by doing the work. They value convenience (that REEKS of laziness!) over superior quality.

@Akinwalesegun

Ай бұрын

Keep deluding yourself

I did a calculation, and 16TB is all I need to everything I do for my entire lifetime. Now imagine a 200TB rewritable disc.

@MISTERORION

Ай бұрын

That would be insane but I would love that. The cloud is cool but I feel physical copies of stuff is very important

@Erichwanh

Ай бұрын

"16TB is all I need to everything I do for my entire lifetime." ... man, the day you find out about porn will be a hell of a shock.

@LoveFactorySweatShop

Ай бұрын

@@Erichwanh low-res VR porn is usually a GB. I still delete more than I keep.

The gaming industry would do well with this

1 DISC TO RULE THEM ALL! 💿

This is actually really cool. Imagine having one disc with every Warner Brothers movie, one with every Disney movie, one with every Sony movie.

I never understood why would one discard one technology (that works fine) for a new one. Like many people I still have my vinyl collection, my CDs, laserdiscs, DVDs, and plenty of Blu rays. Each format has its own charm, and limitations, but they all function well.

One disc to hold them all.

No internet means no movies, no games, etc...I really don't like the sound of that. Is the internet forever? If we get into a war, there would certainly be an effort to knock our internet connection out, and along with it all those digital entertainment options. Physical media must survive.

@user-dr2cw3hh1t

Ай бұрын

If we into an internet ending war. Your ability to watch movies is at the bottom of your priority list.

@jordanparks6885

Ай бұрын

@@user-dr2cw3hh1t That is quite true, but movies can provide an escape during rough times. And after the hypothetical war is over, whatever damage there is to the digital infrastructure still won't affect your physical collection

@user-dr2cw3hh1t

Ай бұрын

@@jordanparks6885 i think we will be a bit more analog in our entertainment then.

@jordanparks6885

Ай бұрын

@@user-dr2cw3hh1t yeah analog would certainly play a part

@manuel_sotelo7798

Ай бұрын

so, the internet goes down but power doesn't.

I'll say this until I'm blue in the face: WE DO NOT want to live in a world without physical media or even ownership of art. We cannot let our lives be run by subscriptions. It's A future. Not THE future. We're not going about this right because we're not trying to improve things for people anymore, we're just focusing on pure profit with no regard for customer happiness. It's wrong and I hope we reverse course someday.

Few years back my internet was out … for 2 weeks!! So to get to watch something i pulled out my old bluray and dvd collection .this hit hard with me that internet is so fragile and untrustable i began to collect physical again. Also were gonna pay more for streaming in the future

@Old_Scot

Ай бұрын

My internet went down yesterday morning - I know exactly what you mean. It reminded me again of why I keep my discs.

New Disc - All movies from Year X... they'll be great... e.g. "Ooh got the 2000 movie disc today, can't wait!"

We need to have physical media no matter what.

@Alton7771

Ай бұрын

I agree with in principle must people don't care they are not cinema obsessed so they will not turn a profit

@KlingonCaptain

Ай бұрын

Give it another ten or fifteen years, and physical media will be illegal. It's too difficult to control.

Studios need to make a service that a person could buy the movies/shows they want and the studio would put them on the disc.

There are still places that have no internet or a weak signal. I live on an island where this is the case. Carrying around media to use in places like this would be handy.

Nothing beats physical media

@Richmondthefish

Ай бұрын

except kaleidescape

Like rob said. There are certain movies that are simply never going to be released in digital. I was recently Looking for a movie called Haunted Honeymoonwith Gilda Radner and gene wilder. I used to watch that movie all the time but I can’t find it anywhere. Movies not the greatest but I’d still love to be able to play it on a physical device

@cinemadaddo6360

Ай бұрын

It was released on Blu ray by Kino Lorber

How is this disc different than a computer hard drive with mp4 movies on them? Sure it's something "physical" but there will still be digital versions of the media on it.

Physical media is not dying.

@RoyConwell

Ай бұрын

6:40 no it literally is.

Make it re-writable and this is god-tier

Nothing i repeat Nothing could ever Replace Physical Media it gives a deeper mean of having your personal items because u have it

Imagine, the entire MCU on one disc. Shut up and take my money.

I'm younger than everyone interviewed here and while I originally like streaming and VOD for a while more than physical media, the past few years have proven me wrong. Streaming services can remove their library at any time and with VOD the "purchase" you make only gives you a "license" to view the content, not actually own a digital copy. In that way VOD is more like an NFT or a certificate that says you own land on the moon vs. something like an MP3 you used to buy on iTunes. Aka it's a scam and while it's obnoxious when Blu-Rays have included previews, it beats having your content stripped away from you because you only bought a "license" to view a thing vs. an actual copy of the thing. Hollywood is a stagnant dying business for a reason and the sad way it has tried to redefine ownership is yet another sign of that fact. So yeah for the stuff I really care about, I'm going with physical media unless it gets open sourced somehow.

Storage alone won't "save" physical media (it doesn't need "saving"). What WILL drive the demand back up for physical media is the rising cost of watching content on streaming services. Just my .02.

I really do hope they make this beacuse I love physical media.

@thecollector1993

Ай бұрын

me too buddy

I will always buy my favorite movies on physical disc cause the quality and sound r just way better than streaming!

One Disc to Rule them All

I just bought the TV series Smallville on Blu ray, it has 10 seasons. I would love it if it were on one single disc I could keep in my player while I binge it.

I love physical media and hearing about a disc that can store tons of shows and movies, it may not be a bad idea.

Now that streaming services are considering putting commercials in their services, physical media is becoming a lot more tantalizing, alongside the benefits to picture and audio quality.

You could have all James Bond, Harry Potter, Star Wars, MCU, Star Trek Movies each on one Disc! 😳

The problem isnt rhat blu rays cant hold enough, the problem is that people would rather stream. No amount of storage would fix that.

If there's hardware for it imagine the potential for the disc. A disc like that could have The Star Wars Saga in premium uncompressed video and audio quality and have all the version available.

As long as it’s scratch resistant, it will be viable.

Why can't we just have DRM-free digital movies? That way you at least have the option to backup and play your movies on whatever device you want, even if you lose access to the account you bought it from, or the movie gets removed from the server, etc. The music on iTunes are DRM-free, video games at GOG are DRM-free. Movies should be the same as well.

@lorenzopaul6147

Ай бұрын

💯

Bit rate is king. Why bother making better TVs if all you're going to get is 15Mbs 4K from streaming? Plus, you don't own sh!t if you can't hold it in your hand.

This is kinda what I’ve been saying, I’m a physical media guy, I use digital in tangent with my physical but preferably I’m physical, and what I said could happen because I’m a firm believer that physical media will never actually go away is that we could essentially see a new form of physical media that’s not Blu Ray or DVD be created, that’s what I think will ultimately happen, physical media will always be around just like vinyl, I mean honestly guys, there is no excuse you could give me as to why physical media can’t stick around if vinyl can, but just over time we see it take on a new format, and the idea that we could see stuff like an entire tv series be put onto 1 disc sounds kinda cool, now I’m not quite sure how I would feel about that with movies because I like the separation with those but I could see myself getting onboard with this, this could very well be the next 4K Blu Ray

People seem to forget, and you don't mention it in the show, that physical media are of a way better quality than streaming. The image of course said to be 4k sometimes is in fact much compressed but the biggest difference : even my my dvd of Starship Troopers carries a much better sound than the streaming equivalent. Streaming sound is like mp3 compared to a CD or even better a vinyl. No point in listening to pink Floyd in streaming it just sucks, while listening at it on a good stereo is a great experience.

@masterbaraman9372

Ай бұрын

The issue is how fast it will be able to read from.

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I just began collecting again!!! To me…not dead!!!!

They should just bring back VHS Cassette tape, those were the days when we go to Blockbuster started renting out videos where we copying them into a blank tape. Man those were good times!

Lets hope that one disc don’t get scratched

How this will be used depends entirely on how fast the data can be read from the disk. It very well may only be useful for storage and people may even find retrieving information from such a medium to be slow. For example if you can only get 10 megs a minute from it, you might not use it for storage at all. Playing video above 480p would be a stretch, too.

How much would the machine cost that records the disc?

1st Disc : HBO 2nd Disc: Disney + Hulu 3rd Disc: Prime 4th Disc: Miscellaneous …coming soon!

I’d still prefer to have everything displayed individually. You can’t beat the feeling of looking at all the spines.

@spicymemes7458

Ай бұрын

It's a luxury

I use a hdd 16gb drives for the movies but this disc coukd be a changer because at times i gotta swap drives. I'll almost never have to swap a disc and lets face it. A mastered 4K disc with DOLBY VISION HDR & full dolby atmos on disc is wayyyyyy better than the stream version.

@jordanparks6885

Ай бұрын

Exactly

Only problem would be costs. Also read and write speed needs to be better for that format according to an article I read. New media formats always costs a lot.

You can have a whole streaming service on one disc 😂

External Harddrives are insanely expensive, what will this do to the pricess, will this make the 8tb 12tb external drives affordable?

On the Silver Globe is being released on BluRay - one of my absolute faves - I saw its remastered release at Leeds Film Festival years ago and had to track it down on a bootlegged DVD from Greece, but excited to see it on bluray - although it appears it's on KZread now anyway!

I’m definitely a physical media collector. I mostly collect Marvel movies and shows on Steelbook. I respect people who only do digital but I personally like the fact that I own my movies and shows and there’s no chance that a studio will take it down on a streaming service or switch streaming services like how Daredevil went from Netflix to Disney Plus. As cool as this new disc is, I’ll still collect physical media until it dies.

Loved this convo.

Physical media rules!

Physical media is going nowhere. Yes, it has fallen out of favor for casual movie fans, but for the collectors, who have always powered the market, it will continue to hold a market place. Vinyl was thought to be dead but without ANY advancements, it is now outselling CDs.

Maybe not for movies, but if Video Game developers adopted these discs I could see them becoming popular, imagine not having to download for 20 minutes before playing a new game. & if you could program the system to write changes onto the disc? Idk, could be game changing (literally).

I still buy physical and i rip my disc to my NAS and stream through Plex. Best og both worlds. I have the convience of stream but still my physical copy in case soemthing happens.

What is the difference between this and an external hard drive?

I love physical media, but this doesn't move the needle. It might help get the entire run of certain shows on one disc, but even if they put out a James Bond collection mega disc, people will still need to go buy the next James Bond movie when it comes out on blu-ray. Plus, it just doesn't have the access factor; you would need the player, and most devices (tv, laptops) won't have it built in, so you'd have to bring that with you when traveling. I'd rather they come out with a 200 TB thumb drive or portable SSD.

If they let this come to light this will save the gaming industry's massive problem with game downloads taking up most of people's space which in that regard could yes Save physical media😊

That would eliminate one of the main reasons I collect these days. Special packaging and editions for display.

I don't see a 200GB disc as saving the physical media industry, but i like the idea of being able to store, say, an entire HD series on one disc, especially if the oackaging is pretty for display. In general, i haven't bought a physical Blu-ray in years, but i have considered it with an occasional film here and there.

@scummymulisha

Ай бұрын

Do it! lol didnt realize the différance in streaming vs physical. didnt know how much quality takes a hit till you hear a cd vs streaming Bluetooth or netflix vs bluray. and besides you dont own any of what you stream

sorry for my misspelling, but thanks for the movie\wine cellar idea, Robert! When I get my laserdisc, d-vhs, and another hd dvd player maybe I should do a similar setup.

Physical will always be superior🔥

@johncampea

Ай бұрын

And yet it’s dying faster and faster every year.

@mhh3

Ай бұрын

@@johncampeaso? people don't make the smartest choices but that doesn't mean physical media isn't superior. But one other point to consider is that more and more licensing problems on streaming plattforms and games occur more and more often which leads to discussions of ownership. it could very well make a comeback if this continuous to happen.

@cinema4life416

Ай бұрын

@@johncampea you aren’t a true movie lover or cinephile as you are so desperate to portray yourself as. Only seeing movies digital is absolutely blasphemy when it comes to wanna experience the best quality of a movie at home. You don’t own js when you are owning them digital so spare all of us your unprofessional non valued opinion

@cinevick1680

Ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@johncampeamovie theaters are also dying off, so does that mean watching film at home is superior? The new generation will never understand the magic of the movie going experience

@Anonymous-wb3nz

Ай бұрын

​@@johncampeaoh really? Then why are sales climbing every year, and why is it still a billion dollar industry? Troll.

I have the original unaltered versions of the original Star Wars trilogy on blu ray. I’m pretty sure that’s the only way you can find them now are bootleg copies. Not on any streaming anywhere

Physical will never die out. Don’t know where you’re getting your info but it’s wrong.

@jackko21

Ай бұрын

Ocpcommunications said it best physical media isnt dying the market for it is just changing its now market towards big film buffs and collectors with lables like umbrella entertainment arrow video shout factory

They need to make it not scratch. I stopped using DVDs when I couldn’t keep up with resurfacing them and having 100’s of scratched discs. Having 4 kids will make you go streaming real fast.

@lorenzopaul6147

Ай бұрын

Makes sense

So how would we get all of what we own onto said disc? How do we combine what we have to that disc? Expensive software? Just trying to see the overall benefit vs just "sounds great in theory"

@hrgwea

Ай бұрын

You would have to transfer your movies yourself to that disc in the same way we can create custom DVDs with multiple movies in it. However, the process becomes really tedious and time consuming if you own hundreds of movies. So, it's not practical. However, we could see entire series being sold on one disc, like the entire Start Trek collection or the entire The Simpsons collection, etc.

I prefer physical media

What about thumb drives do studios have to technology to convert movies onto thumb drives and would that be a viable what are you making and reasonable option for both the Studios and the consumers alike?

the con for digital far outweighs the pros, especially for videogames with developers telling consumers that they don't own the digital game they paid for, not to mention digital being reliant on a number of things from power to internet connection. if the grid crashes and physical media is gone, that includes books, how are you going to read, teach, etc. this is a case where the advancement of technology in this area trying to replace physical with all digital media is not a good thing.

@stephennootens916

Ай бұрын

There also the fact that not everything is streaming and many streamers often takes movies off their sites

@TheOppositeOfLegend

Ай бұрын

@@stephennootens916 which is dependent on power(electricity) and a internet connection... Internet connection includes streaming and downloading, that's why I said Internet connection.

@stephennootens916

Ай бұрын

@@TheOppositeOfLegend they can also just be something wrong with the service. I had trouble just getting on one of my streaming services more than once.

@TheOppositeOfLegend

Ай бұрын

@@stephennootens916 ok... More reason to not solely be digital only....

@stephennootens916

Ай бұрын

@@TheOppositeOfLegend and it feels like it is getting worse. If things keep going the way it is people are going to start real thinking about just going back to cable.

The bootleg market would be insane.

those disks arent made for media... they are for long term storage. Blueray already holds all you need for a movie

For me, it's the tangible feel of having a single movie like a physical book. I can keep displayed on a shelf on its own or with others. Having a disc with 200 movies on it that I then have to digitally scroll and select the movie or show I wanna watch? I may as well be streaming.

Physical media is real ownership 🙌🏽

@spicymemes7458

Ай бұрын

It's a license for use. It's still illegal to copy it onto another disc. Not actually owning it.

@carloschavez1574

Ай бұрын

@@spicymemes7458 id still want to own a house rather then renting a apartment 😁

@spicymemes7458

Ай бұрын

@@carloschavez1574 ok... we were talking about discs, right? Lol

@carloschavez1574

Ай бұрын

@@spicymemes7458 lol 🤣 we are 👍🏼

I like having a library of books and films. But then again, I have the space for it.

But can it fit the Lord of the Rings Extended Edition on one disc?

@jgontko23

Ай бұрын

Now I want to have the new one week long Jackson cut on that disc

What about the price per disk of all that content on the disk it would be astronomically high I would imagine

I stopped buying physical media very early on when loads of companies created their online sales branch for streaming. So I picked a supermarket backed attempt, my thinking was that I doubted they'd go under with such a big backer. But under they went, thankfully they were able to get a different company to take on most of my library. I say most, because a lot of my collection didn't survive and I got a very small number of "credits" as compensation. Since then, I have slowly bought that entire library on DVD & Blu Ray. Now I'm converted back to physical only and will never trust a big online company to keep all my media forever. Thankfully they aren't making that many great movies these days and I'm not desperate to own much and I'm not breaking my bank with massive spends.

With 200TB you can basically have then entire mcu if not the entire Disney catalog

I like this idea. will try to keep an eye out for it. would be interesting to see where it goes. and how things end up for it.

They could release the whole collection of the 30’s 40’s 50’s 60;s archive collections that today’s generation haven’t even thought to watch or know of

I stopped about 10 years ago. I have probably about 1500 or so discs. When moving those are heavy. Just takes up to much space in storage discs/boxes etc

As soon as they say you don't own the rights to that anymore they will yank that digital movie out of your library...and you no longer have it

More storage? Count me in!

My only thing is how much for that player to play that disc.

@luke_1234

Ай бұрын

Ya no kidding

@bstan64

Ай бұрын

How much do you figure they're going to charge for the discs themselves? $200? $300?

You could fit all 14,809 Days of Our Lives episodes on one of them jawns

Forget TNG, you could actually fit every Star Trek show, and movie on one disc in HD and still have plenty of room left over

I think stemming service should have point system you get point for watching commercial, for being a continued member with the points you get one month free membership of a free physical media.

I'm a gamer and have a huge collection of physical yet a even bigger collection of digital and saves space and time. I moved recently and moving boxes of games and movies was a hassle and I have stuff misplaced. I prefer digital. It's the future yet having the Physical copy is also fun aswell. It's all in what you prefer

Series?? You can put most homelab NAS’s on that one disc.

bro you could put the entire blu-ray series of star trek next-gen @ 400gb total, on one disc, x500.

I'm a collector so for series this cool for movies this would suck. I want to champion a movie I love. I want the packaging i want art work and special features. I want each movie in my collection to be a conversation piece when a friend comes over to my house to hang and they look through my collection.