Star Wars: The Acolyte To Have Pathetic 30-35 Minutes Episode Runtimes

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The TJCS crew discuss the now revealed episode runtimes for Disney Plus series Star Wars: The Acolyte.
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  • @mothealien
    @mothealienАй бұрын

    30 min episodes only works for cartoons and comedies

  • @Jay-jb2vr

    @Jay-jb2vr

    Ай бұрын

    Something tells me this show isn't gonna be too good

  • @Roxasthesupersaiyan

    @Roxasthesupersaiyan

    Ай бұрын

    Why?

  • @isaacbeeby2528

    @isaacbeeby2528

    Ай бұрын

    Bullshit. The medium or the genre doesn't matter whatsoever. If you're a talented writer and/or film maker, you should be able to make your story work, regardless of the runtime. The Bad Batch, an animated show is one of the best shows on TV right now and it manages to make banger episodes week after week with only 25-30 minutes per episode.

  • @alvinsaisi5969

    @alvinsaisi5969

    Ай бұрын

    @@isaacbeeby2528you just gave an example of a cartoon, proving his point🫡

  • @seanyoung9014

    @seanyoung9014

    Ай бұрын

    They don't have faith in their own writing. Neither do I.

  • @jtmplmbr4465
    @jtmplmbr4465Ай бұрын

    30 minute run time for a tv show drama is a massive red flag. They can’t get out of their own way. For god sakes, this isn’t rocket science Disney.

  • @andrewfiorini8169
    @andrewfiorini8169Ай бұрын

    I don’t understand the excitement for this. Disney hasn’t given me any reason to be excited for anything

  • @ahmorgan

    @ahmorgan

    Ай бұрын

    People saw some poor martial arts and ominous music and lost their minds

  • @foodini666

    @foodini666

    Ай бұрын

    so you are watching this why

  • @darklorddysart

    @darklorddysart

    Ай бұрын

    The main reasons for my excitement are the new time period and Jedi order, the murder mystery/who dunnit vibe but most of all whatever is about to be explored with the Dark side.

  • @ahmorgan

    @ahmorgan

    Ай бұрын

    @@darklorddysart All of those are completely valid reasons. My issue and only issue is this is a Disney property. Not George Lucas, not Netflix, Not MGM Amazon, not HBO. I would have more excitement if any other studio were producing this show. Disney has lost my faith. They have put out so much crap in such a short period of time that it's clear they don't know what they are doing. Just look at all of the awards shows as an example. Hulu: The Bear, Only Murders in the building, Shogun, HBO: so many it's pointless to list, Netflix: Blue Eyed Samurai, Stranger Things, Amazon Prime: Invincible, The Boys, Reacher. Disney is the worst streamer for original content. X-Men 97 is the best thing Disney+ has created so far. I am sorry for the long comment.

  • @3NewDay
    @3NewDayАй бұрын

    I've got a bad feeling about this....

  • @jwhittington78
    @jwhittington78Ай бұрын

    I don't understand why they can't learn this lesson. When I think of premium TV I think of episodes being 50+ minutes. Star Wars used to be the premium of all premium brands..but it's not at all being treated that way. I understand it's difficult to make shows with the quality and scale of HotD, Last of Us, Shogun, etc...but it's not difficult to try. And they're not even trying. There has never been a more obvious thing to do than try to make a Game of Thrones type of show in the SW world...yet they for some reason refuse.

  • @loganastrup6870

    @loganastrup6870

    Ай бұрын

    Andor comes pretty close. Those are longer 45-55 minute episodes and the writing is superb. Much better than any other Star Wars thing we’ve gotten. But if only all the Star Wars shows could be that same level of quality.

  • @thefilmeffect6089
    @thefilmeffect6089Ай бұрын

    I just can’t get over how cheap it looks. It looks like a fan film at times. Either the director doesn’t know what they are doing or Disney just views this as quick disposable content or both.

  • @rubendacostaesilva8442

    @rubendacostaesilva8442

    Ай бұрын

    It's a TV series, so it's normal that feels cheap. We're never going to get Star Wars movies CGI and cinematography in a TV series.

  • @MatiZ815

    @MatiZ815

    Ай бұрын

    I completely disagree on that. I think the sets, costumes and overall design looks great. I can't comprehend what's cheap about it to people. It easily looks better than Obi Wan or Bobba Fett. Maybe because it feels different due to being in a different Era?

  • @yv3652

    @yv3652

    Ай бұрын

    I agree. It doesnt look epic as star wars should do.

  • @southpawalex3548
    @southpawalex3548Ай бұрын

    there're great TV shows with mostly 30 mins episodes, from Barry to The Bear and a good amount of animation shows. But the problem with the Disney + shows are that they don't seem to be structured like 30 minutes episodes but like a movie split into 6-7 parts instead

  • @xboxboba1
    @xboxboba1Ай бұрын

    The Disney+ series are essentially 3 hour movies broken down into six segments. They would work much better as films.

  • @darklorddysart

    @darklorddysart

    Ай бұрын

    I think Mandalorian works as it was clearly written to be episodic but I very much agree when it comes to Obi wan and Boba

  • @Buckeyesteve10
    @Buckeyesteve10Ай бұрын

    The degree to which Disney has mismanaged Star Wars is truly astounding. Even more astounding is the flat refusal to course correct.

  • @Theratron

    @Theratron

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly! John is the only one who's somehow excited about the acolyte....

  • @robertdickson9319
    @robertdickson9319Ай бұрын

    Completely agree - absolutely no reason that Disney cannot produce 1 hour episodes for their series. They are just lazy, cheap and/or incompetent.

  • @jc2126
    @jc2126Ай бұрын

    So disappointed in this news. Star Wars needs more HBO style shows like Andor. Imagine an Andor style show but with Jedi and Sith.

  • @Otmassprime
    @OtmassprimeАй бұрын

    If you are making 30 minutes episodes then drop all of them at once

  • @ArchThaBoss
    @ArchThaBossАй бұрын

    Hbo doesn’t do this, Netflix doesn’t do this, paramount doesn’t do this, Amazon doesn’t do this, apple doesn’t do this. It’s only Disney. The runtime is the main reason I’ve given up on Disney plus live action series. It doesn’t work. And there’s at least 5-7 minutes of credits for any of their shows so take that away from the run time. 25-40 minute episodes and what 6-8 episodes?

  • @nelsonpeterson2565
    @nelsonpeterson2565Ай бұрын

    It’s like they’re completely disinterested In making event television

  • @loganastrup6870
    @loganastrup6870Ай бұрын

    The only Star Wars thing I have full confidence in is Andor season 2.

  • @rooksed

    @rooksed

    Ай бұрын

    Bad batch consistently comes through too

  • @ahorsewithnoname773

    @ahorsewithnoname773

    Ай бұрын

    @@somebody9648 It's the best live action Star Wars since the original trilogy, and the only good Star Wars on TV recently. Compelling characters, dialogue, & story > cameos & related fanboy memberberries.

  • @connorquinn5381
    @connorquinn5381Ай бұрын

    The problem is none of these shows have enough story to last a season of television. They stretch a 2 hour movie idea over weeks and it is just a slog

  • @foodini666

    @foodini666

    Ай бұрын

    like every tv show ever ...

  • @blastmedia3218

    @blastmedia3218

    Ай бұрын

    @@foodini666John explains in this video the difference between doing tv and movies and you still commented this 😂

  • @blastmedia3218

    @blastmedia3218

    Ай бұрын

    @@foodini666Do you read a book and think “wow this is like a really long movie where I can’t see what’s happening”?

  • @laurijaakkola3762
    @laurijaakkola3762Ай бұрын

    Disappointing but I have still hope… - Even bigger production value than Andor - Didn’t use the Volume VFX during filming - A real and talented writing room - Incorporates EU/Legends lore - Pitched as a multi-seasonal show so maybe the second season is longer.

  • @leonardobautista2647

    @leonardobautista2647

    Ай бұрын

    How tf can you still have hope if it follows kenobi formula 🤔

  • @MatiZ815

    @MatiZ815

    Ай бұрын

    @@leonardobautista2647 It doesn't though. What do you mean?

  • @nicDeeKey
    @nicDeeKeyАй бұрын

    I thought Disney+ was done with 30-35 minutes live action. This is Bad!

  • @legionmartin
    @legionmartinАй бұрын

    This trailer looked cartoonish. ANDOR is the new Star Wars standard to copy.

  • @Apac12

    @Apac12

    16 күн бұрын

    lol no

  • @careymahoney4058
    @careymahoney4058Ай бұрын

    A fair chunk of Star Wars fans don't want fleshed out stories and characterisation - they want "Easter Egg Storytelling"...

  • @ahorsewithnoname773

    @ahorsewithnoname773

    Ай бұрын

    Sadly true. See all the complaints about Andor being "boring."

  • @leadzeppbelly

    @leadzeppbelly

    Ай бұрын

    @@ahorsewithnoname773 Theory being the biggest culprit. Cries like a baby at stupid cgi Luke and cries in anger because he can’t focus on the story telling in Andor

  • @mokeish
    @mokeishАй бұрын

    It's not like Rome or The Sopranos or countless other shows have laid out the foundation for premium tv, it's too hard for LucasFilms apparently.

  • @bkdmode
    @bkdmodeАй бұрын

    I honestly do not give a crap if a show is "only" 30 mins: as long as the story they are trying to tell is complete, well-paced and entertaining. I'd rather have a good show that is "only" 30 min than a bloated show that is 50-60 min.

  • @Badda_Bing
    @Badda_BingАй бұрын

    In an attempt to include the largest audience possible (mainly kids with short attention spans), Disney has alienated their main Star Wars fan base, who'd like to see more engaging stories. So no body wins.

  • @alexanderp7083

    @alexanderp7083

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed. What's really delusional is that they think kids are watching their shows or interested in them. They aren't. SW fan base is 95% over the age of 25 years old. They should start treating their properties for adults.

  • @seanyoung9014

    @seanyoung9014

    Ай бұрын

    Kids don't give af about Star Wars. Why would they?

  • @ahorsewithnoname773

    @ahorsewithnoname773

    Ай бұрын

    100%. The 30 minute runtime is totally to appeal to kids who don't have the patience to sit through an hour. Unfortunately they lose adults by not giving episodes enough time to have a fully fleshed out & compelling story. In many respects Disney owning Star Wars has been bad for Star Wars.

  • @seanyoung9014

    @seanyoung9014

    Ай бұрын

    @@ahorsewithnoname773 Not everything is for fanboys. How is having a kids oriented show a bad thing when the creator literally said it's for children? Y'all don't exclusively own this brand.

  • @ahorsewithnoname773

    @ahorsewithnoname773

    Ай бұрын

    There is nothing wrong with having a Star Wars TV series that appeals more to kids than adults. That also doesn't also mean however that adults have to like it. Unfortunately the trailer for the Acolyte looks underwhelming, and the 30 minute runtime doesn't inspire confidence either.

  • @JezzaBondiBeach
    @JezzaBondiBeachАй бұрын

    Star Wars can’t fill any longer than 25 minutes per episode I think. Story telling is so surface level and it’s aimed for young children. Saturday morning Disney channel stuff. It’s a shame but I’ve let this franchise go

  • @pizzpazz
    @pizzpazzАй бұрын

    30 mins shows are fine if they are well crafted. The issue with Disney SW is that too often the episodes are throwaway and nothing to do with the series narrative, it just poor quality/inane

  • @wkadalie

    @wkadalie

    Ай бұрын

    Problem is they don't have enough story to justify 30 minutes. let alone 40 minutes. So getting it over as quick as possible is for the best.

  • @JohnnyZenith

    @JohnnyZenith

    Ай бұрын

    30 minutes is not fine.

  • @wkadalie

    @wkadalie

    Ай бұрын

    @@JohnnyZenith 8 episodes of 30 minutes is 4 hours. That's the same as a mini series. So it is fine..... just Disney can't justify it.

  • @HipHopRylan
    @HipHopRylanАй бұрын

    Theres been like 1800 examples of why Disney's Star Wars sucks in the last 7 years. I don't understand why hes actually asking this question now. Its sucked for a really long time, and will continue to suck, until someone else buys it and decides to take it seriously again.

  • @slickshoes18
    @slickshoes18Ай бұрын

    Its so hard to understand why Disney keep making such poor decisions

  • @msudlp
    @msudlpАй бұрын

    The length of the episode doesn't matter if the content is good.

  • @afro18en
    @afro18enАй бұрын

    I will be shocked if this show is good

  • @leadzeppbelly

    @leadzeppbelly

    Ай бұрын

    We can live in hope

  • @ahorsewithnoname773

    @ahorsewithnoname773

    Ай бұрын

    The trailer was a little underwhelming unfortunately. That & the 30 minute runtime does not inspire confidence.

  • @ahmedsulz8265
    @ahmedsulz8265Ай бұрын

    I don’t even know how Disney + is still surviving at this point.

  • @foodini666

    @foodini666

    Ай бұрын

    like 200 million subs i guess?

  • @tannerhuskins330

    @tannerhuskins330

    Ай бұрын

    It’s the families with children. They shell out the big money for Disney

  • @misterbrady100
    @misterbrady100Ай бұрын

    Based on what I'm seeing, I'm not going to renew my Disney+ subscription until Andor Season 2. Hopefully Andor Season 2 will be as good as Season 1.

  • @thatcanadianguy07
    @thatcanadianguy07Ай бұрын

    I gotta wonder if this, like Boba Fett and Obi-Wan, is a result of the Solo effect. Solo did poorly at the box office so now we don't get side story Star Wars movies.

  • @IIJonnyBoyII

    @IIJonnyBoyII

    Ай бұрын

    The sad thing is Solo was a really fun movie. Probably my second favorite Disney Star Wars movie behind Rogue One. It unfortunately had to release in the shadow of the Last Jedi, which it ended up taking a lot more hate than it deserved.

  • @michaelferdinand2677
    @michaelferdinand267723 күн бұрын

    the legit filmed an entire movie and than edited it to be 30 minute episodes

  • @jeffreyroedel9804
    @jeffreyroedel9804Ай бұрын

    It'll be the same as Obi-Wan and Ashoka. 2 hours of actual story, but padded and spread out over 8 episodes that are 35 minutes long. Disney+ wants 8 short episodes instead of one better/shorter movie, or like 3 longer episodes we can actually get immersed in, because they just want the traffic to the streaming service. At this point, I don't get excited for the Disney Star Wars shows...I just wait for the better fan edits.

  • @foodini666

    @foodini666

    Ай бұрын

    just like every other tv show ever ...

  • @JR-nq7mc
    @JR-nq7mcАй бұрын

    It just keeps getting worse.

  • @jonathanwatts9492
    @jonathanwatts9492Ай бұрын

    Star wars just lost all specialness unless it's Andor it's been mediocre at best so let's see but not much hope

  • @slate49
    @slate49Ай бұрын

    I’ll watch the series once the season is completed

  • @woody5581
    @woody5581Ай бұрын

    Im glad I canceled +

  • @JB-bj3fl
    @JB-bj3flАй бұрын

    Star Wars “A lost hope”

  • @Carlo_ReNews
    @Carlo_ReNewsАй бұрын

    Aren’t you always the guy who says the runtime has nothing to do with the quality? It should make anyone concerned

  • @ahmorgan
    @ahmorganАй бұрын

    The length of the shows wouldn't be a concern if they were of high quality. Unfortunately, we have doubts about their potential to deliver.

  • @foodini666

    @foodini666

    Ай бұрын

    maybe you do

  • @ahmorgan

    @ahmorgan

    Ай бұрын

    @@foodini666 the like to dislike ratio and overall conversations about Disney Star Wars would agree with me.

  • @ugochukwumgbemene3869

    @ugochukwumgbemene3869

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@ahmorgan Exactly, anyone still deluding themselves are just trying to grasp at straws. Disney has heavily mismanaged Star wars that I don't care anymore. Dune is the in thing now anyway.

  • @ahmorgan

    @ahmorgan

    Ай бұрын

    @@ugochukwumgbemene3869 I couldn't have said it better brother

  • @garretmc494
    @garretmc494Ай бұрын

    This is a joke, Star Wars has fallen off so hard its unbelievable.

  • @irishboy664
    @irishboy664Ай бұрын

    Like Campea, I was pretty excited for the show, especially after the first poster, but trailer left me feeling underwhelmed and the short episodes has me feeling like a balloon losing air.

  • @foodini666

    @foodini666

    Ай бұрын

    you sound like a drama queen

  • @irishboy664

    @irishboy664

    Ай бұрын

    @@foodini666 you sound like you contributed nothing to this comment. Create a discourse or don't bother.

  • @TheycallmeMrWonka
    @TheycallmeMrWonkaАй бұрын

    Breaking up a series into 30 minutes episodes means Disney has more individual product to fill and entice people with, I suspect it also will maximise profit (for other reasons I wouldn't be aware of). It sounds to me that it's a decision made not to make a better watchable experience but a by the book tactic to extract as much return as possible. I do get that companies want the💲 but when that overly compromises the thing you're making maybe it's time to instead change the thinking from extract as much 💲 as possible to make it the best we can as a series while still making some 💲. I'm not an unreasonable person, I get you need to have give and take but maybe the philosophy of putting the take part as the foundation is a fundamental problem here.

  • @IIJonnyBoyII
    @IIJonnyBoyIIАй бұрын

    Why is that Andor is the show that got all Disney’s money?? Not that I’m complaining

  • @leadzeppbelly

    @leadzeppbelly

    Ай бұрын

    Andor is absolutely the best series yet. But I really wish they’d spent the same on Obi Wan Kenobi (instead of making Mando season 3 and Book of Boba Fett) and never had Reva in it 😂. Obi Wan was the one everything expected to be good and wasn’t, while Andor was the one no one expected to be any good and was a masterpiece

  • @Reytakang
    @ReytakangАй бұрын

    You should've got it by now. Disney does this on purpose. Their strategy is to give you as little as possible per "episode" if you can call them that, in order to string you along so you have to subscribe longer to disney plus. Its why all their shows suck. They're all just meandering cash grabs with shallow stories.

  • @reynaldomcwhiskey6689
    @reynaldomcwhiskey6689Ай бұрын

    a very wishy washy, spineless 30 to 35 minutes run time. And a very indecisive 40 to 45 minutes season finale. can’t even commit to a hard 30 minute runtime like X-Men. in and out. that’s the deal

  • @arlopear7136
    @arlopear7136Ай бұрын

    30-35 minute runtime is the total. Take away intro & overly long Disney+ credits & you're looking at episodes that are 22-27 minutes long. Why does Disney+ continue doing this when fans have been so vocal about these short runtime episodes seeing as their series are weekly? "Because...FUCK YOU, that's why"-Disney

  • @whodat4ever80

    @whodat4ever80

    Ай бұрын

    Shorter episodes means less money spent. Quality be damned

  • @paulappleton9666
    @paulappleton9666Ай бұрын

    Hmm, Disney not learning from their mistakes - even from ones pointed out to them? Yep, that tracks.

  • @lukeflyswatter3203
    @lukeflyswatter3203Ай бұрын

    I disagree with John: they can still only care about making money and still make the wrong decision about episode length.

  • @user-ft3mn7sc3t
    @user-ft3mn7sc3tАй бұрын

    I always hated how these shows had episodes of a 30 minute run time and it's just filler

  • @patrickcampbell45
    @patrickcampbell45Ай бұрын

    Yeah im not watching anymore of these 30 min episode shows so tired of this shit when are Disney gonna learn 😑

  • @MatiZ815
    @MatiZ815Ай бұрын

    Just an idea here but could it be that all those shows with short episodes are a result of Bob Chapek's mandate to produce as much content as quickly as possible? Maybe the simple truth is that they were just not given enough time to do a longer series as they were pressured to quickly make it and release it?

  • @OneGaurdian

    @OneGaurdian

    Ай бұрын

    You might be right.

  • @seanv3180

    @seanv3180

    Ай бұрын

    It's too similar to how Marvel runs things as well though which tells me there had to be a meeting with the studio heads about how to handle streaming.

  • @JAF729
    @JAF729Ай бұрын

    I can see how this runtime might have seemed like a good idea when they first started making the shows. Star Wars was heavily influenced by movie serials from back in the day which were short and often ended with a cliff hanger...If they were trying to model this I could see how it would made sense - however they clearly aren't. And they have had enough time to realize that this isn't working. They should have moved on to a more traditional 50- 60 min format by now.

  • @intothezombieapocalypse
    @intothezombieapocalypseАй бұрын

    why not just make it a fucking movie at this point. i dont understand why disney wants crappy short episodes over a d+ movie. you can edit it better and get a better audience response than a half assed tv show

  • @chazzerous

    @chazzerous

    Ай бұрын

    Because an 8 episode TV show keeps you subscribed for 2 months 3 if you forget to cancel in time.

  • @intothezombieapocalypse

    @intothezombieapocalypse

    Ай бұрын

    @@chazzerous except for the simple fact that most people who want to stay subscribed for more than a month, already subscribe to D+. The people who just sign up for a certain show, wait until its all on and then get the app for a month and then unsubscribe. So it actually doesnt keep people subscribed for several months. and thats why releasing stuff straight onto streaming services doesnt make people companies money.

  • @chazzerous

    @chazzerous

    Ай бұрын

    @@intothezombieapocalypse you’re totally right. I’m only posing this from the standpoint of a corporate accountant type like Kareem Daniel who was in charge of the whole thing, and I think Disney wanted to make TV their way and squeeze content out for less, and what we have at the end of 4 years of the service are a handful of good shows and a lot more mediocre ones that probably began life as a movie

  • @intothezombieapocalypse

    @intothezombieapocalypse

    Ай бұрын

    @@chazzerous well it was actually confirmed that it was Bob Chapek who mandated that things be made for disney plus as fast and as cheap as possible. hence why all the subpar Marvel TV shows. Thats why we have gotten all the subpar Star Wars shows as well. also the fact that Lucasfilm was scared to make movies if it wasnt a main star wars movie after the "failure" of Solo. The problem with that movie is that it wasnt bad at all. They just released it so close after the release of The Last Jedi that the hate from that movie spilled over onto Solo. You cant release Star Wars that quickly after one another. So now instead of just making a movie or D+ movie, we get half assed tv shows to try and draw in subscribers... but that never works for anyone lol. the data shows that.

  • @jeancholidis658
    @jeancholidis658Ай бұрын

    one show i’m VERY HAPPY that doesn’t adhere to 30 minute episodes is invincible they are consistently 40 minutes + and it makes the show BETTER WHO WOULDVE THOUGHT ?? disney definitely didn’t

  • @demonslayer9551
    @demonslayer9551Ай бұрын

    This show is gonna be trash….id rather watch Shogun. This is Disney not committing to a true drama serious. 30min episodes work perfect for Animated shows like X-Men and Invincible.

  • @chrisinjapan5736

    @chrisinjapan5736

    Ай бұрын

    Invincible is much longer than 30 mins !

  • @foodini666

    @foodini666

    Ай бұрын

    what are you basing this stupid take on?

  • @demonslayer9551

    @demonslayer9551

    Ай бұрын

    @@foodini666 Disney’s current track record with their tv shows. Mando only works because of Jon Favreau & Dave Faloni. This show has neither involved.

  • @gametime2473
    @gametime2473Ай бұрын

    Out of all the Star wars Disney has shat out, 2 seasons of Mandalorin is the only stuff that I have liked.

  • @JohnnyZenith

    @JohnnyZenith

    Ай бұрын

    ?! Clearly Andor is way above all of them. What are you talking about. Jesus.

  • @gametime2473

    @gametime2473

    Ай бұрын

    @@JohnnyZenith It amazes me how many people are offended by someone with a different opinion than them. I watched a little of Andor but couldn't get into it.

  • @JohnnyZenith

    @JohnnyZenith

    Ай бұрын

    @@gametime2473 Quite true. I've been unwell. I apologise. However try it again maybe.

  • @gametime2473

    @gametime2473

    Ай бұрын

    No problem. Take care! @@JohnnyZenith

  • @joshhudson7413

    @joshhudson7413

    Ай бұрын

    rogue one and pretty much all of the animation stuff is great.

  • @houstonhughes184
    @houstonhughes184Ай бұрын

    I don't understand how someone who tells us several times a year that every movie has it's own perfect runtime and that runtime has no bearing on the quality of a thing--keeps complaining about the runtime for shows... I enjoy your show, and watch often, but have gotten sick of this hypocrisy. Between 30 and 40 minutes has worked great for Mando, and WandaVision ranged between 22 and 50 minutes.

  • @supersisters8336
    @supersisters8336Ай бұрын

    Why TF is the run time more of a problem then what she said about the writing coming from people who don't know or understand star wars?????? Hello Leslie said it was important to have someone who doesn't know anything about star wars. Gtfoh this 💩 is going to suck

  • @diegoortiz2018

    @diegoortiz2018

    Ай бұрын

    Andor had a bunch of writers with little to no star war knowledge. That show was amazing, it’s okay to have ppl with different ideas. The runtime is a red flag but writer thing really isn’t a big deal

  • @seanyoung9014

    @seanyoung9014

    Ай бұрын

    I don't know. Whenever I go to a restaurant, I always want the chefs to have no knowledge of the cuisine served there. 😂

  • @thehutch1674

    @thehutch1674

    Ай бұрын

    It’s actually a really good idea in my opinion. It means they come in with the perspective of making a great show instead of just a great Star Wars show. That is the mentality that gave us Andor. They can focus on the storytelling and not fan service

  • @victorgerrity7158
    @victorgerrity7158Ай бұрын

    Star Wars is now not special. It feels like a product-just like MCU has become. Some good some bad but not special. That is a bigger tragedy Darth Plageus the Wise

  • @scoutfish96
    @scoutfish96Ай бұрын

    Disney shooting themselves in the foot again with a highly anticipated Disney+ show. Name a more common pair

  • @rulath6611
    @rulath6611Ай бұрын

    The fact that the showrunner isn't clear on the actual runtimes makes this all suspect. Also that time may not include credits, so it could be 30-35/40 minutes before credits. I think the criticisms of past shows are valid and has more to do with Disney not using actual traditional TV showrunners than it does run times. You can tell a tight compelling story in 30 minutes. They do it on the animation side all the time. Bad Batch, Rebels, Clone Wars are all 22-24 minute runtimes (Bad Batch does go longer at times) but they tell a finite story in that time. It can be done. I'd rather have a tight 35 minutes than a meandering 50 minutes.

  • @limpinz
    @limpinzАй бұрын

    Come on bruh how long was empire or return of home boi luke. run time means nothing if they can tell the story but bruh already decided it will be bad.

  • @GAMEBYTHEPOUND
    @GAMEBYTHEPOUNDАй бұрын

    Looks like I’m going to be binge watching watching this and try to avoid spoilers

  • @Bullz_eye47
    @Bullz_eye47Ай бұрын

    Even band of brothers a limited series need at least 50 mins+ for the characters

  • @troyelam8978
    @troyelam8978Ай бұрын

    It’s crazy to me how little creativity and effort seems to be put into a franchise that is one of the most popular on earth, and could potentially capture so much viewership, yet shows that don’t have 1/8 the fan base, such as Shogun, are being made with consideration and concern. It’s almost as if Disney bought Star Wars just for tax write off purposes!

  • @seeloffdoee
    @seeloffdoeeАй бұрын

    I agree. Shows are different than movies where you can say “it’s just as long as it needs to be”, especially primetime shows like John mentions. Most of the best dramas of the last 20 years have 45-60 min runtime episodes. The shift by D+ to this format over the last 5 years is something that clearly doesn’t produce the same product. Kenobi and Moon Knight are the prime examples of D+ shows that have been almost mortally crippled by the episode lengths

  • @Aragonsdick5170
    @Aragonsdick5170Ай бұрын

    Acolyte taking L's even before it has landed.. 😂

  • @gerardalbafoz
    @gerardalbafozАй бұрын

    I don't like that series are longer than 40min, tbh. You have the bear, beef, atlanta... And a lot of series that are really good because they achieve tension and drama in a normal tv standard. I don't want to spend my life on the sofa watching tv. You just said it, it's harder, but this what it means good writing.

  • @ahmorgan

    @ahmorgan

    Ай бұрын

    None of those are Disney projects. How Disney can put out the mess it does is astonishing to me.

  • @chazzerous
    @chazzerousАй бұрын

    Disney has no idea what they are doing with their streaming service. No other company in the world is producing 30 minute drama or action series. Other networks routinely produce hour or longer shows.

  • @andreiga76
    @andreiga76Ай бұрын

    The only way to watch these is to let 3 episodes to be released, also after that you already know if it's worth it or not.

  • @JB-sc1tg
    @JB-sc1tgАй бұрын

    Eh, if they don't have the content to fill out a 50 minute episode, then I'd rather them not include filler crap. Hopefully, 30-35 minutes per episode is exactly what the story calls for.

  • @Darknights23
    @Darknights23Ай бұрын

    F……. Disney

  • @ThunderForce2000
    @ThunderForce2000Ай бұрын

    The only non comedy fictionalised show I can think of where having episodes last around the half hour mark worked was with the classic era of Doctor Who.

  • @rakoonshampoo2608

    @rakoonshampoo2608

    Ай бұрын

    The Bear and most anime are also around the same length.

  • @ribeye5394

    @ribeye5394

    Ай бұрын

    @@rakoonshampoo2608 bear is comedy drama. Well written and no action set pieces. One episode of season 2 was an hour. Whole season dropped at one time.

  • @retloclive9118
    @retloclive9118Ай бұрын

    I'm rooting for this to do well, cause I'm interested in seeing what the High Republic's all about. However, all the warning signs are there of The Acolyte being another leftover rushed project from the Chapek development hell years.

  • @chrisinjapan5736
    @chrisinjapan5736Ай бұрын

    I left Disney plus due as it is not worth it to sub every month. Barely enough content plus most of it is weekly ep at 30 mins long. Hell the credit are almost half of the ep

  • @foodini666

    @foodini666

    Ай бұрын

    sure

  • @MrJCMG
    @MrJCMGАй бұрын

    Ever since I saw the leaked footage and heard the general idea about the premise of this show, I have been looking forward to it. It sounds like it holds a lot of promise. However, this has killed my enthusiasm for the show. The minimum runtime for these shows should be 40-45 minutes at least (and these should be lean fast paced episodes - that's the only justification for it). The average episode should be 50-55 minutes. Finales should be around an hour. I don't want to be waiting a week for 30 minutes of entertainment. I think I will wait until the whole show has aired before I check it out.

  • @Iloveragatha
    @IloveragathaАй бұрын

    because Disney is dumb and u keep finding ways to blame it to Chapek, and Papa Iger cant make no wrong. XD

  • @JCIce007
    @JCIce007Ай бұрын

    Short runtime, so-so trailer, reports of a troubled production with a fluctuating episode count: I sense another Echo approaching.

  • @BlackRobin71
    @BlackRobin71Ай бұрын

    I have a feeling that 30 minutes is going to feel too long for this series.

  • @mongothedestroyer88
    @mongothedestroyer88Ай бұрын

    After they dropped the ball with Book of Boba Fett and Mando season 3 I have little doubt this is going to be a disaster. The lack of promotion says it all.

  • @Ntense___
    @Ntense___Ай бұрын

    Yea when episodes are this long I just tend not to care for the series. Episodes this long is ridiculous.

  • @michaelsinger4638
    @michaelsinger4638Ай бұрын

    Even Paramount+ gives Star Trek hour long episodes. Why Disney+ keeps doing this is beyond me?

  • @MrRobertGillan
    @MrRobertGillanАй бұрын

    Here we go again

  • @altaafsheik5725
    @altaafsheik5725Ай бұрын

    Wait people think Disney will actually show dark side story 😂😂😂

  • @wkadalie

    @wkadalie

    Ай бұрын

    I mean Andor got pretty dark and gritty. So it's possible, just not likely.

  • @Slicedbread420
    @Slicedbread420Ай бұрын

    That's why I wait and binge it.

  • @adamstark04
    @adamstark04Ай бұрын

    Did they have to cut scenes after Iger said stop being so political… or did they just give the project to a leader and writers that never had much of a story to tell?

  • @grumpyoldmenshayestehroo2711

    @grumpyoldmenshayestehroo2711

    Ай бұрын

    They say its an original story, but its literally taken from the old republic games story line from whats being said... the old republic story of Sa'har that was separated from her older brother and trained by Jedi Master Denolm Orr. the thing she has changed is the brother for a sister🤦🏻‍♂️ bunch of clowns🤡 obviously there won't be a darth malgus as timelines don't match as he is 3k to 4k years before and his is an strong and aggressive male and Disney can't have that... Disney sucks.

  • @OmarBhoo
    @OmarBhooАй бұрын

    30 min shows don't work for me. I like to sit down to watch something movie length. I'll watch 3 episodes of a 30 min show at a time or 2 episodes of an hour long.

  • @philippe-cb8wj
    @philippe-cb8wjАй бұрын

    The people at Lucasfilm are being forced to announce stuff (content) that never gets made. It is all PR to keep the interest of customers in their IP. When they are called to task to actually produce something, they rush out to release whatever they have, regardless of its quality or how their product is going to affect the IP in the long run. Short sightedness and greed does not make great art. It makes get rich quick schemes. Disney mandates Lucasfilm to put out products to sell Disney+ subscriptions and not because they have an interesting story to tell.

  • @captaincorona9488
    @captaincorona9488Ай бұрын

    I remember going into Kenobi being very excited and was disappointed that the series has no story. Why do we need another Obi-Wan/Darth Vader encounter? And we have Leia as a kid being the secondary focus of the show? I agree with John. With just 30 minutes of showtime per episode in one week, you do not have time for a real story arc. You also add in 3 commercials and you get a suck fest of garbage. I am no longer subscribing to Disney Plus until the quality of their shows improve. Can we just have a two hour movie already?

  • @IGotThisGeorgeLopez1

    @IGotThisGeorgeLopez1

    Ай бұрын

    We need Episodes over a hour long not including recap , title and credits

  • @ThinkTankIllustration
    @ThinkTankIllustrationАй бұрын

    im looking forward to this.

  • @joeg.5374
    @joeg.5374Ай бұрын

    I will say that X-Men 97 has great drama for a 30-minute episodes. Although most of the setup for that show was done 30 years ago.

  • @shadowtrooper3764

    @shadowtrooper3764

    Ай бұрын

    This show has the same showrunner as Russian Doll and she effectively used those 30 minutes each episode, so I'm not worried.

  • @erickkampa9360
    @erickkampa9360Ай бұрын

    I was trying to figure out what the hell "Show Gun" is lol

  • @fernandojr7854
    @fernandojr7854Ай бұрын

    Being a fan of Percy Jackson I was disssapointed with that show I wanted to it to be like avatar and one piece which is for all ages. The Percy Jackson series was mainly for kids unfortunately. The acting was ok, the action was lackluster almost nonexistent, the fantasy was almost nowhere to be seen.

  • @InsertCleverNameHere0
    @InsertCleverNameHere0Ай бұрын

    You kidding me? With 30-35 minute episodes, I might actually watch this show 😂

  • @jasonh.2439
    @jasonh.2439Ай бұрын

    Isnt John the same person who mocks people who complain about short movie runtimes?

  • @MrAndyFlick

    @MrAndyFlick

    Ай бұрын

    You completely missed the point 🙄

  • @MalcomMcLeod
    @MalcomMcLeodАй бұрын

    The runtime is a symptom of how the show is being made.

  • @foodini666

    @foodini666

    Ай бұрын

    not at all lol

  • @bdubberz
    @bdubberzАй бұрын

    The show runner not knowing how long the episodes are on an 8 episode series is hilarious

  • @shadowtrooper3764

    @shadowtrooper3764

    Ай бұрын

    Have you seen Russian Doll? It's the same showrunner and those episodes are around the 30 minute mark with 8 episodes. That show has some of the best time management I've ever seen in a tv show. It somehow gets an hours worth of storytelling into those 30 minutes and still manages to be engaging.

  • @bdubberz

    @bdubberz

    Ай бұрын

    @@shadowtrooper3764 She should still know those details to a T

  • @shadowtrooper3764

    @shadowtrooper3764

    Ай бұрын

    @@bdubberz She does though. When asked she said they range from 30-35 minutes, and that the finale was around 40 minutes.

  • @joshhunt4146
    @joshhunt4146Ай бұрын

    One of the best episodes of the mandalorian (introduction of boba Fett) was 29 minutes - I don’t see an issue with this. As long as it’s good then I’m happy. Plus I rarely have time to watch a 60 minute plus ep so this works for me :) haha

  • @nickoftimeproductions8719

    @nickoftimeproductions8719

    Ай бұрын

    Great example. That episode was fantastic because it got to the point.

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