After seeing The Creator I think we've reached a point where you can do a very good mix of both, practical locations and extras and actors who can act against each other and not have to be covered in blue dots and still have the option of turning them into something alien after editing. if smart about it, it's a rare case of having your cake and eating it too

I love Practical effects. It's good to know Alien Romulus has Practical effects bringing back the Special effects artists from Aliens is a wonderful idea

People will still complain about the vfx.

Im excited for Aliens: Romulus

Wait did alvarez say "under the table...work??? My God theyre going to do a chest buster scene practically. That will br awesome !!!!

@my5head

2 ай бұрын

Because he's talking about puppeteering, which often includes a table, under which is a person (or persons) who is controlling the puppet.

I like CG but Practical is under used, we haven't got past the need for Practical fx yet.

Soon as someone starts talking about these movies yet never seen 'Aliens' I instantly check out mentally as it's insulting and stupid to think you have a say if you never even seen the originals lol

Although not specifically with the Alien franchise, my general rule for horror movies is that gore and creature effects should either be practical or just off screen. Cgi horror just doesn't feel right.

AAAHHHHH, Kris, you mentioned my all-time favorite Disney attraction (even though it's gone)! I know it's not a big deal, but THANK YOU!!! And to be clear, Stitch, not Alien, as I never did the Alien version.

@kriscarr4929

2 ай бұрын

The stitch one is cute!

@mathieuleclaire3438

2 ай бұрын

I think the Alien version was so much better than the Stitch version. They converted it to Stitch because it was way too scary for Disney, but it was so fun.

There's 2 franchises which I'll always come back to, no matter how many times I get betrayed: Terminator & Alien

I remember they said the same about the thing prequel 😂

Man I'm excited for this new alien movie... Dont breathe was great and evil dead was entertaining. Fede Alvarez has my attention

Loved the teaser .. and your analysis John!!👍🙂... Really pumped for this one!! Looks amazing!!😮

John! Make Kris and Ray watch Aliens 😂

When they claim "all practical effects! No CGI!" I just roll my eyes because it's not true. It's not even remotely true. Go to The Movie Rabbit Hole and watch his series called "No CGI is just invisible CGI" - every time directors tout "no CGI! All practical effects!" It's absolute nonsense. This is not going to be any different.

@SillyOzzy

2 ай бұрын

Oh relax 😂 obviously there will be some form of CGI…

@Mikey-em8hs

2 ай бұрын

Chill out guy

@ryhanon7

2 ай бұрын

@@Mikey-em8hs "chill out" as if I was losing my mind or something. Apparently calling out nonsense when you see it isn't acceptable anymore. Nice.

@SalGomez

2 ай бұрын

If you bothered to wait for the directors explanation, he specifically states for "face-to-face" confrontations. He's not claiming no CGI at all.

@SillyOzzy

2 ай бұрын

@@ryhanon7 you aren’t calling out nonsense you’re acting as if they said “there will be absolutely zero CGI in this movie” and that’s not true lol

Why have people talking that hasn’t seen any films? I don’t get it

@wa-bu3ke

2 ай бұрын

They know less then their audience Campea said all the OG designers came back….forgetting the most important one HR GIGER who died so is not coming back

Ray hasn't seen Aliens. He missed out on one of the best movies ever, and one of the best sequel made that was better than the first. Anyways I'm hyped for this Alien movie

Isabela Merced ❤

Tbh the trailer didnt really catch my interest, but I think Fede Alvarez is extremely talented director with amazing horror films under his belt

Yup I remember the ride Kris was talking about! Probably rode it when I was too young but it was terrifying! Definitely was an odd choice to put across the street from Buzz Lightyear.

@mathieuleclaire3438

2 ай бұрын

It was there way before Buzz Lightyear ever existed. If anything, it's an odd choice to have put the Buzz Lightyear ride next to that one.

Awesome

Extraterrorestrial didn't star the xenomorph but it WAS supposed to. The xenomorph did get its Disney moment in The Great Movie Ride which is also now gone.

For me it made it one my most anticipated

The only alien footsteps in the original "Alien" (if there are any at all) are in the scene when it approaches Jones. Its knocking around in the air ducts, was added to Isolation ( along with the reverse leg joints ). The Alien was originally slithery and silent. A biomechanical ninja/ghost.

You have down played ALIEN ROMULUS . . . From Day One! Make up your mind, either you Love It or Hate It . . . I was there opening Night in 1979 and will be there August 16, 2024! ALIEN ROMULUS will be the 3rd Best SCI-FI Movie of ALL TIME, right behind ALIEN and ALIENS ! Mark My Word . . . . Thanks Fede' . . . How can your HOSTS even talk ALIEN ROMULUS when you Haven't NOT even Seen ALIENS . . . .

My idea for an alien tv-series is as follows: It takes place just before the events in the first alien movie and happens on a planet near where the nostromo spaceship is shipping ore. Weyland-Yutani is on the planet and have terraformed it for years,when they discovers a cave with lots of xenomorph eggs. One of them get's infected and a xenomorph is born. It turns out to be a queen,and a lot of the Weyland-Yutani humans are infected and then a war breaks out. All the humans on the planet are wiped out and only a few manage to escape in a spaceship.Then they nuke the planet from orbit. Then Weyland-Yutani regrets the decision and a hunt for the xenomorph begins.They get a tip that there's a crashed spaceship on lv426 and sends the robot Ash on the Nostromo spaceship. But they are informed that the mission has failed and that Nostromo has gone missing.Then Weyland-Yutani get's a tip about an xenomorph on Fiorina161 and sends a team of researchers there.They finds a surviving prisoner that is impreagnated and a queen is born. Weyland-Yutani then wants to use the xenomorphs on the planets where the engineers are located because they want the technology to seed planets with life. They also want the elixir that provides humans with prolongued life.After they have managed to give birth to a flock of xenomorphs,they drops them on an engineer planet and causes everyone of them to die. Then they get hold of the blue elixir that gives prolongued life.But several ships with engineers that where away from their planet when Weyland-Yutani wiped the population out,pursue them and manages to get the elixir back,but gets trapped on the planet where both parties crash.Then a battle takes place and the crew from Weyland-Yutani gets the elixir that gives them prolongued life for thousands of years,but they are now trapped on the planet,with no means to get anywhere.But then they see a light aproaching,but is the spaceship friends or foes ? It turns out it is the engineers and after a battle they gets hold off the blue elixir once again,and that gives the cliffhanger for a second season that we must wait several years to see???

It's unfortunate that I have higher hopes for this movie

Aliens greatness

She hasn`t seen "Aliens"...I`m out!

@NathanielPrinceCoulter

2 ай бұрын

Everyone isn’t 40+

@vedantbakshi6546

2 ай бұрын

​@@NathanielPrinceCoulter there are so many under 20 who have seen aliens bro

@kriscarr4929

2 ай бұрын

…the original team is from the original film Alien

@analogblues

2 ай бұрын

​@@NathanielPrinceCoulter No one young or old has to see Aliens. But if you're gonna be on a movie-themed show and offer opinions on subjects related to the film Aliens...you ought to have seen the movie.

@MRLONG758

2 ай бұрын

​@analogblues not necessarily. I wouldn't call Aliens an essential watch for a film enthusiast show

Not to say there will be zero CGI, but yeah.

I cannot imagine being on a podcast about the Alien films and not having seen them. lol Like really?

@analogblues

2 ай бұрын

Agreed.

My dad and uncle told me that Alien Encounter at Disney was awesome As grown men they would go all the time lol. Bummed I never got to experience it. And even as a teen years ago, I was never amazed by Stitches Great Escape or whatever its called.

I remember the ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter as a kid...the scariest part for me is wondering where the alien is and then it starts breathing behind my neck 😱

Keeping fingers crossed, but having Stan Winston studio on board would help.

@topoulos

2 ай бұрын

Sadly he passed away

@miketez1

2 ай бұрын

I meant his studio. But yes, sadly though.@@topoulos

If you want to make a scary movie, as Fede Alvarez seems to want to do with Alien: Romulus, then it makes sense to go more practical than digital. Because at the very least, you want the actors to be conveying fear through their performances, But that is going to be made more difficult, and less convincing, if they are reacting to a tennis ball in front of a green screen. They are having to use their imaginations to scare themselves, rather than being afraid in any meaningful way. They are trying to be afraid, but their subconsciousness are telling them there's nothing to be afraid of. It's the difference between the Jeep attack scene in Jurassic Park and the Indominus/Raptor fight in Jurassic World. Both Sam Neil and Ariana Richards were able to convey fear more convincingly, because there was a full size animatronic T-Rex in front of them. Whereas in Jurassic World, the two kids were essentially reacting to nothing. It's easier for an actor to show fear when the scary monster is actually in front of them rather than when it's in their heads.

I had been thinking that the scene in the trailer of multiple facehuggers running did not look practical. I'd love if it was, but im skeptical based on what I saw

Imagine waking up in your cryosleep pod to find a 7ft Xeno knocking on the window.

As cool as CGI may be, it never felt as real and tangible as practical stuff. Ever. In any movie.

@mathieuleclaire3438

2 ай бұрын

I would bet you would be surprised how many effects you believe were practical, are really CGI and you just don't know it is. These days, CGI is so good, that studios can just claim it's all practical when it's far from it. Because a lot of bad CGI has rubbed a lot of the audience the wrong way, it has become taboo to the point where studios simply lie about using it. They put pressure on their crew to highlight the use of practical, but they are just telling you what you want to hear. They think saying this will create the best buzz for their movie. You would be amazed at how much practical elements simply end up being replaced by CGI ones and you would never have guessed.

@TheGodvszombies

2 ай бұрын

Baby Yoda is both pratical and CGI. You would have never know and yet its super obvious as a VFX artist. So much stuff these days are made with CG that studios claim are made practically (which is full of shit.) The face huggers in teaser trailer are obviously CG for instance, the set is probably practical.

@robertdouble559

2 ай бұрын

@@TheGodvszombies mostly cg

@mathieuleclaire3438

2 ай бұрын

Even the practical sets are constantly enhanced or retouched. Erasing a wire or some markers, extensions, removing unwanted props, add or remove reflections of various elements, etc.

@jean-francoisjoanisse1445

2 ай бұрын

@@mathieuleclaire3438 it's true, but too much CG is on the nose obvious.

I guarantee that Aliens: Romulus will have tons of visual effects, it's just that most will be hidden. Used to enhance, not replace. There's nothing wrong with using visual effects over practical effects. It's usually cheaper

If this is true, this is what is going to make this amazing. I am so looking forward to this movie.

It's nice that he says that, however I just reviewed the teaser trailer and it's worth noting that half of the alien shots in it were CGI. I mean I understand, how else are you going to do a swam of leaping and running face-huggers, however this narrative of "we don't use greenscreen or CGI" in movies that absolutely do is tired. Highly recommend the 4 part series "No CGI is just good CGI" on youtube.

@wa-bu3ke

2 ай бұрын

You Lie

@Anubis2X

2 ай бұрын

100% glad you mentioned that KZread series!

I'm sure the credits of this movie will have "zero" special effects companies listed 😂😂😂

@NathanielPrinceCoulter

2 ай бұрын

No digital effects isn’t a thing now. What is this guy thinking. Even sounds are all digital now

@Anubis2X

2 ай бұрын

@@NathanielPrinceCoulter Haha good point! They love to run with these "all practical effects" headlines nowadays.

How can you believe that they will be practical? They were saying that about Barbie, meanwhile they were CG'ing out the green screens of the behind the scene footage for the marketing. Top Gun 2: Electric Boogaloo, barely any scenes without CG. You are just reading of bullshit press releases without giving thought to it.

@joshhunt4146

Ай бұрын

When people say it’s going to be practical - they don’t mean it’s 100% practical. There’s not one studio film made today that is 100% practical

I personally have always gotten pissed off whenever I hear people bash CGI and say that “Practical Effects are always better” Because to me a lot times it just sounds like a bunch of pretentious 20 somethings trying to gain street cred by saying “Look, I’m a young person who likes old things, I’m so much smarter than the rest of my generation” For me I don’t care if an effect is practical or CGI as long as it looks good, but I still think this is a cool thing to hear because it again enforces that it feels like this Alien: Romulus movie is apparently trying to be something really worthwhile, it doesn’t seem like they’re just making another Alien movie, it seems like they’re really trying to put forth a lot of effort and it makes me quite interested in seeing it now

@user-sc9li1qt1e

Ай бұрын

I feel like Alien 3 should've focused on the Weyland-Yutani corporation. There was an opportunity there to wrap the movie series as a trilogy. Alien 1 - dealing with one alien Aliens - dealing with a horde of aliens Alien 3 alternate - dealing with the source of the problem - the Company. THEY were the big trouble-makers in the first two movies. THEY wanted the Xenomorph. THEY screwed things up. So Ripley dealing with them should've been the big finale. Their own hubris could've been their downfall.

I've heard this one before 🙄

Are we talking "Barbie Practical" or actually practical. The fact that "Practical" is such a marketing buzz word right now makes me yaaaaaaaaawn. Who gives a fuck? If the end result is good, it's good. They're generally lying. CG touchups over the top of practical has been commonplace for decades.

@joshhunt4146

Ай бұрын

Yeah but when someone says it’s practical they don’t mean 100% practical. They just mean that practical effects is their main focus. There isn’t a studio film made today thats 100% practical.

Did they summon real aliens?

She has seen the original alien, yall literally sound like you are breaking down and crying. I get it but yall take it too personally.

Why talk about Aliens when at least 2 of you haven’t even watched the full franchise!?

@beautifulportland9592

Ай бұрын

That's why I take Everything they say as Click-Bait with out substance!

Here we go again. Some more Hollywood BS

I hate when people blindly trash CGI. We live in a period in history where CGI is more believable than ever. We should be able to appreciate good effects, regardless of what they did behind the scenes. Both are good for different situations.

@joshhunt4146

Ай бұрын

When it is used correctly it’s incredible. The Star Wars sequels used it incredibly well. The Creator and Dune as well from the top of my head

Fine. Now make a good movie.

As if I couldn't like Fede Alvarez any more than I already do....

@jarrodmcdermott9109

Ай бұрын

Because Aliens is the best one ..infact one of best action movies since Cameron took the horror flick of Alien and made it kick ass

Don't show me stuff I've already seen. What made Alien and Aliens so good was the unique creature design in the first and the creature community in the second. This movie needs to show me something different to about the creatures to get me excited.

*IN SPACE NO ONE CAN HEAR HOLLYWOOD FLOGGING A DEAD HORSE* 🙄

I've heard this claim before and then went to the movie to see that the practical sets and effects were covered with CGI 'touch-ups' that made them look fake.

@WalksBehindTheRows

Ай бұрын

I hate when that happens so much. Especially with makeup fx. It defeats the purpose. Going through all of this work just for it to end up looking like CGI anyway.

@FestArc

Ай бұрын

@@WalksBehindTheRows The Biggest offense was The Thing prequel.

No such thing as "all" practical movie making, every movie has used "vfx" in some form. Go watch The Movie Rabbit Hole series.

Plz plz plz make the crew competant and smart... Not idiots who die because they do stupid things

@wa-bu3ke

2 ай бұрын

People aren’t smart in those situations IRL though Especially nerds/scientists They die easily

@topoulos

2 ай бұрын

They are all gen Z. There’s no hope for that.

@pse2020

2 ай бұрын

@@wa-bu3ke what situations irl compare to this? Also all they have to do is just look at the older alien movies...

@wa-bu3ke

2 ай бұрын

@@pse2020easy. Search for stupidest scientific mistakes. Also they made mistakes just as stupid in the old alien movies.

@pse2020

2 ай бұрын

@@wa-bu3ke there are stupid people then there are people making mistakes... But i guess u dont see a difference in crew behaviour between promephous a and Alien 1... I remember a scene in Alien 1 when ripley would not let the crew vack in because of risk of contamination... In promephous, the dude sees a worm in his eyes, dont tell anyone and just ignores that its there... The dude who maps the place gets lost and the bilogist try to cuddle an Alien snake like creature... There is a huge diference.

This director is boasting all practical creatures yet the trailer had two very fake looking CGI facehugger scenes in it.

@roof1975

2 ай бұрын

You're fun.

@EdtheFED6132

2 ай бұрын

agreed. the way the camera would track the facehuggers and latch on had that fake cartooney feel to it that you see in every heavy CGI movie. if you replay those facehugger swarms slowly it looks completely fake.

@wa-bu3ke

2 ай бұрын

They don’t look fake

@vlcthefish

2 ай бұрын

​@@roof1975 The topic is about the director boasting it's 'All Practical Sets And Creatures' and what they showed on the trailer was not that. What would you like me to do? Say "gEeZ whIZ gUyS, tHosE cGi FaCeHuGgEeRs aRe pRaCitAl eFfEcTs"

@stephenbinder8965

2 ай бұрын

They were not obviously fake

Disney world is the stuff and all the Disney parks in Florida Sorry campea got burned with The Disney park in California

Practicals are largely for close-ups however practical is not really a cost effective thing. Beyond that green and blue screens have all become obsolete thanks in part to virtual production

Enough with the bragging about practical effects. Visual effects artists ARE ARTISTS

Blind much? The trailer is a CGI shit fest, the hoard of face huggers looks like a game.. stop kidding yourself. I'm not saying its bad, I hope its good I'm a huge fan. But what Fede says and what we can see with our eye's is not the same. Lets hope the movie is better

@caffeinated4671

2 ай бұрын

All we know is that he didn't want to show anything of the actual plot or dialog in the trailer. That's why what we see is pretty vague, other than the brief shot of cgi facehuggers and a facehugger dong being pulled out.

@joshhunt4146

Ай бұрын

What are you watching? Need your eyes testing fella

@MusicShaneCollins

Ай бұрын

@@joshhunt4146 I'm thinking the same with you if you think this is practical effects...

Oy, I'm not from the 70, I've been through the 80s 90s I want my fucking CGI. I'm tired of all these little bits here and little bits there of the Aliens. Time to bring it on fully now. No more boring shit. Why do they keep employing these clowns who keep living in the retro past??

The Extra Terrestrial Ride at Magic Kingdom literally traumatized me as a child. I had PTSD from it, that’s not even a joke. Silly to think about now because I’m sure I would love it as an adult, but as a child, it was next level terror.