Nolan was talking about streaming and he’s 100% right. Disney Plus is dropping shows off the face of the earth. Mike Flanagans Hush is off Netflix and no where to stream legally. Also, for what it’s worth, losing discs isn’t an issue if you keep your collection organized. It’s all up to you and how much care you want to put into movie collecting.

@keefriff99

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, that’s a personal organizational issue for John 😂😂

Check your facts John Campea, because there are people that buy whole seasons of shows on iTunes and they get deleted. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen to others. When you purchase a digital TV show or movie, you are not actually buying the show or movie itself. You are purchasing a license to watch the show or movie. This means that the content owner (i.e. the studio or distributor) has the right to remove the show or movie from your library at any time, for any reason. There have been many cases of this happening over the years. So get your facts straight.

@davidjames579

6 ай бұрын

Don't you get a download option?

Hush disappeared from Netflix and there’s no physical version. So it’s just gone now.

@jacobwest7

6 ай бұрын

Yea that doesn't happen with physical disc's, it sucks how streaming services just say "oh well, we aren't carrying this anymore"

@ellis.d_419

6 ай бұрын

fuck…i didn’t realize until this 😔

@keefriff99

6 ай бұрын

Really, WTF. And Netflix has a good relationship with Flanagan too.

@juanthompson8016

6 ай бұрын

​@@keefriff99Netflix doesn't care😂😂

@kaponosucks

6 ай бұрын

Also they can silently remove a specific scene from a movie on digital

To me John is missing what Nolan is talking about but Nolan is really only talking about movies on Streaming services, not digitally purchased copies. And we have seen A LOT of movies and shows ripped off of streaming services, that are effectively forever gone until you pirate it.

You're right, John. Can't think of a single example of a piece of digital media suddenly disappearing and ceasing to exist entirely. Now, time to binge watch Willow and Mike Flanagan's Hush....

@bt3779

6 ай бұрын

Talk with anyone who were members of Ultaviolet, and Flixter. People lost thousans of dollars of content (300M individual purchases lost). Talk with fans of say...Sliders...and how individual episodes are censored from streaming services, and not available officially on any platform.

How is a guy whose job is to report on media, not know that they have in fact deleted movies off of Streaming. Hush is gone, the Willow TV show is gone, and several others too. To say “it’s never happened” is just factually incorrect.

@SuperSbarlow1

6 ай бұрын

He’s talking about digitally purchased movies which is far more rare, but still has happened so either way he’s just wrong.

@DanTruong10-13-95

6 ай бұрын

That’s basically gaslighting us

I've been following John since the collider days, but lately it seems I'm more in touch with whats happening in the movie world than he is. That's insane.

@svtk3498

6 ай бұрын

I feel the same. Have disagreed with a lot of his takes recently; as a long time listener he contradicts himself constantly as well.

As usual Christopher Nolan is 100% correct! Streaming services remove media all the time at the drop of a whim.

Oppenheimer Blu-Ray has over 3 hours of special features on top of the 3 hour movie.

@themtgdude486

6 ай бұрын

Just watched most of it yesterday and it was great.

I preordered Oppenheimer on 4K can’t wait to have the physical copy, physical media forever

Being a physical media person I am getting the 4k UHD copy of Oppenheimer. The quality you get from a 4k disc is incomparable with the streaming quality.

@martinjrgensen8234

6 ай бұрын

This. This so much. A friend of mine didn’t believe it, so I put on the opening scene from Thor Ragnarok on my 4k system. It was so much brighter and clearer

Do people not realize that when you buy the physical media version you also get a digital code with it to own it that way too? Best of both worlds.

@spicymemes7458

6 ай бұрын

Some people are not going back to paying 20-30 bucks for a DVD on top of 30+ dollar outings for theaters at a premium. Collecting and movie watching are not mutually exclusive

@BenjiGator23

6 ай бұрын

@@spicymemes7458 I know. Agree that they are not mutually exclusive. It’s just that John makes it seem in the video that it’s a binary choice when choosing to buy the movie (either physical media or digital purchase)… what I’m saying is that it’s not necessarily a binary choice because when you get the physical media, you also get a digital copy with it if you want to go that route.

@spicymemes7458

6 ай бұрын

@@BenjiGator23 I have a friend who gave me gus digital copies so it works out

Just an fyi John when you buy a physical copy you get a digital copy included. So you pay the same price for physical that you pay for digital. You just get the discs also when you buy it on physical for the same price.

fun fact, the movie "Hush" never had a physical media release and is currently not available on any legal digital media platform. So there's that

You losing physical movie discs is a you problem, not a physical media problem. Be more responsible and organized when it comes to your physical movies. Physical movies stay on your shelf when you are not using them, so you have to go out of your way to lose them. Even if you are moving to a new house, it is still easy to not lose them, just put it in a secure box and keep track of where the box is during the moving process.

@FrankieD8283

6 ай бұрын

Have never lost or damaged any of my physical media ever, same goes to all my friends and family.

@mikepratt6481

6 ай бұрын

Yeah that was a weird argument!

I've never abandoned physical media. I don't see why people instantly jump ship with digital. Why not use both? Physical and digital.

@matthewlee4697

4 ай бұрын

Exactly!

I've become a huge physical media enthusiast over time, esp since the pandemic. I'm totally with Nolan on this. And it isn't just the possibility of something being deleted. Streaming has the ability to edit existing media. For instance, The Office has an episode or two where certain scenes have been adjusted / removed... However, I own the blu ray collection of The Office and the scene is intact as it was when it originally aired. One last point--streaming compression, for both music and movies, take away from the final product. For instance CD / vinyl quality is MUCH better than spotify / apple streams. The same goes for blu-ray / 4K UHD. Your digital provider might say "4K UHD" but it is compressed, visually and sonically, due to it being streamed. A 4K stream can't compare to actually viewing something on a 4K disc.

The problem is that you're relying on an external source to play your video. And that's dependent on if they still have the rights to play that video on their platform. At some point, the movie can be removed and / or moved to another platform that we then have to subscribe to as well. It just adds up and becomes annoying to us as consumers.

Owning films is still the best way to own films.

Christopher Nolan is not wrong.

Streaming is an unsustainable model, we will go back to physical media just watch

Physical media will always win. With the way streaming is going and prices continuing to rise, people will really regret getting rid of their DVDs and Blu Rays in a few years. Plus, owning a physical copy protects it from streaming services possibly editing the movie or TV show and cutting stuff out (especially older movies and TV shows).

Sony literally just removed a whole bunch of content from the playstation store that people already paid for. So... there you have it.

I think his comment ‘evil streaming services’ may be referencing ‘The French Connection’ and how Disney decided to edit the film on all digital platforms. If you have the physical copy, no one can alter the content once you have it.

@spicymemes7458

6 ай бұрын

Ok then there is the reversal of that where they re-released the "lost" version of Muppet Christmas Carol with a song number added back in that was previously only available on the VHS version.

@Bob-Savage

6 ай бұрын

@@spicymemes7458 yes! But that would fall into a category of ‘non-controversial’. It’s sad.. but, these days, it seems like if 9 people on social media are offended by a scene in a movie (present, or from the past) that it must be considered for deletion.

@spicymemes7458

6 ай бұрын

@@Bob-Savage Idk if it was offensive. It was just unpopular. A lot of people didn't like Scrooge and Belle's song, but seeing it again, I think it's too important to be left out

That’s why I buy physicals copies so streamers don’t have that option to take the stuff away from me

Digital versions of films look worse than the physical media version. And streaming services remove content all the time. John is really thick headed sometimes

My biggest issue is with censoring or editing the original version to remove problematic scenes. Community, scrubs, French connection all have had episodes or scenes removed. They can't do that with physical copies

@spicymemes7458

6 ай бұрын

George Lucas was editing and re-releasing his movies long before streaming, even going as far as never allowing the originals to see the light of day again, and everyone sees him as a God despite that

@troyn8269

6 ай бұрын

@@spicymemes7458 I disagree. Most people are pissed they are unable to get the original unaltered versions. I hate the singing scene in return of the Jedi, but it's the only version of the movie unless you have the VHS

@spicymemes7458

6 ай бұрын

@@troyn8269 I'm with you. I'm saying that everyone is putting the blame on streamers for editing content when one of the most famous examples is from the director.

Anyone who's watched his movies on disc know that the quality is second to none. He really puts in a lot of work into the presentation and it's well worth the money for both the video and audio quality. The bitrate on 4k discs is just insane and streaming quality is a fucking joke in comparison. Tenet's disc is reference-level and I have no doubt Opp's disc will be exceptional. This video hilariously misses the point and passion behind Nolan's statement. He's not talking about it being stolen from you if you purchase it. He's talking about its future life on a streaming service being unreliable. It's funny watching a video like this right after Stuckmann's "The Future of Film - Why I'm Worried" video where he literally highlights an example of a Netflix film, Mike Flanagan's HUSH, being available absolutely nowhere, NOT EVEN NETFLIX. In a day and age where a studio is literally cancelling completely finished movies with the incentive of a tax return, is it really that bad to push for physical media, still without question the best quality money can buy and an option that will be permanently yours to own? Also, not taking proper care of your belongings is no one's fault but your own John. I have DVDs from pre-2000 that still work just fine. Now is it less convenient than having a digital library? Sure. But losing discs and getting them scratched isn't anyone else's fault but the owner's. And with the hardware behind blu-ray and 4k discs, it's very hard to scratch them. You have to be intentionally trying to mess up a disc to scratch one.

@davidjames579

6 ай бұрын

As if Peacock would ever remove Oppenheimer

@TheDylanHoang

6 ай бұрын

@@davidjames579 MAX doesn’t even get to have the dark knight trilogy and Harry Potter on its platform year round. We never know what can happen with these services

@davidjames579

6 ай бұрын

@@TheDylanHoang what are they doing with them? They're money spinners.

@ryandavis5379

6 ай бұрын

100 agree. Nolan movies on streaming are normally 100% locked in scope aspect ratio too.

'1 out of every 3 physical media that is purchased, never gets played.' And that statistic was calculated how? That sounds like a misuse statistic.

He is spot on. Preserve physical media whilst it is just about savable.

Netflix erases its own movies, paramount and disney x has erased its own movies.rhis does happen

@spicymemes7458

6 ай бұрын

Usually movies and shows that people don't care about anyway. Just because Disney pulled Willow, doesn't mean they are going to pull Avengers Endgame.

John, people buy WHOLE SEASONS of shows on iTunes and they get deleted. It happens. Just because it didn't happen to you, doesn't mean it's not an issue. You pay for something and you don't own it, you just license it. Awful (sames goes for music).

@ThunderForce2000

6 ай бұрын

I’ve actually bought a couple of TV shows digitally from iTunes which have since been removed from the store, but the copies I purchased are still in my iTunes library for me to watch.

@davidjames579

6 ай бұрын

​. Right, isn't this what buying involves? Or downloading it.

Nolan 100% correct here you OWN the damm thing not rent it when you stream it if the world does become streaming only it can F'; off and I will just pirate it all for free

Very misleading segment form John. He quotes Nolan, but completely misses the tone of the quote, which was a fairly jokey one from Nolan, when you watch the clip for yourself. He wasn't seriously suggesting that Oppenheimer will be stolen. This kind of reminds me back before Oppenheimer was releaser, and John was seriously thinking Nolan would detonate a nuclear bomb for the film, all because Nolan said he wasn't using CGI for the explosion. Sometime John is a little weird.

Chris Stuckmann talked about this on his KZread video just today. Try finding the first and only season of Willow without pirating it. Or the Netflix original Hush. If you didn't buy the original hard copy release of the first season of 13 Reasons Why you'll probably never see that infamous suicide scene ever again because Netflix edited it out of the digital copy.

3:28 John, but it DOES happen. Companies having access to digital does lead to them being able to limit or restrict them! Of course it doesnt happen as often in movie cases, although, people in the comments have been bringing up examples like Hush, but look at video games for example. Xbox 360 marketplace is shutting down next year, and with that many games that were released digital only, are going to be lost - many games and dlcs for them have been delisted already, which makes buying them impossible. Not to mention, that in licence agreement of these digital services it is stated that you are not buying a film/game but licence to use it, within platform you purchase it at. And while it might not be propable, that amazon goes out of business tomorrow, and shut down everything, restricting access to your bought VOD, lets be honest here - there have been plenty of smallet platforms, which offered vod content, and shut down. If the platform you have bought movies on shits the bed YOU CANT ACCESS "YOUR" BOUGHT FILMS. Its as easy as that. Losing your physical media due to your neglegience, is not the same as losing access to vod you paid for, because million dollar company said so.

@Thomas15

6 ай бұрын

When purchasing a digital copy of a movie or show you need to download the file, which you will of course own even if the digital version is removed from sale or if the retailer goes out of business.

@MichaelWhyte01

6 ай бұрын

@@Thomas15I am not 100% sure, but are legitimate digital downloads of films and TV shows encrypted and require an active account to play them? If that is true then if the service shuts down you could lose access to your digital file even if you have downloaded it.

2:12 Okay so it's now happening... wgmhat do we do now? 😅😅 Also if you didn't hear Discovery is removing all of their stuff off the PlayStation store, and have said the content will also be removed from Users libraries too. So far they have not mentioned anything about a refund, but which let's be honestly I don't really think Discovery could afford to refund every customer right now.

I’m buying the 4K Blu-ray. Nothing compares to the quality

@kaponosucks

6 ай бұрын

I just love unwrapping plastic on a new movie it’s such a good feeling that’ll never be replicated digitally

Physical all the way. You may not have had any digital movies you've purchased removed but streamers can very much control what we watch. If someone decides a movie is controversial they just don't make it available on their services. If a streaming TV series underperformed like Disney's Willow series they pull it. Now you didn't purchase a digital copy of the Willow series but you can't watch it anymore because Disney pulled it. They may add it again and they may not. That series may never see the light of day again in any legal release.

@spicymemes7458

6 ай бұрын

So people didn't care about Willow at release, but do now that they can't see it. Warwick Davis was right.

John, you're wrong here. I've had many films and TV Shows that I've purchased taken away from me to never view again by Amazon, the most recent example was Alan Partridge Sissored Isles. So I fully support Nolan here because I'm tired of Amazon taking away the movies I've purchased.

@Thomas15

6 ай бұрын

How did Amazon take away the movie file that you downloaded when you purchased the film?

@chrisreckless4915

6 ай бұрын

@@Thomas15not everyone downloads the thing they’ve purchased, that takes up space on their hard drive. Instead it’s expected by customers that since a transaction has been made that content will be there for them whenever they want to watch it. You only have to look to the games industry to see where the streaming and digital space for film and TV is heading.

@bradleynelson4217

6 ай бұрын

@Thomas15 all you have to do as well is look at stuff like Crossfire X in the gaming industry to know that even content that is downloaded won't be accessible if a publisher decides to remove it from platforms. People who have that game downloaded on storage can't play it anymore at all, not even a single player campaign that isn't reliant on online support just because the owners decided to pull the plug and revoke access to everyone who bought it. So again my previous arguement stands and the fact that John is oblivious to the fact these things can happen.

@Thomas15

6 ай бұрын

@@chrisreckless4915 That’s like buying a Blu-Ray but leaving it in the store! If I buy something digital I’m making sure I have a copy of it (which I also backup).

@Thomas15

6 ай бұрын

@@bradleynelson4217 I haven’t been a gamer for about 20 years so don’t have any experience of that modern digital games industry. That sucks and it isn’t good that your purchased games won’t work. Fortunately I don’t think that’s relevant to the issue of purchasing digital movies/shows. If a retailer doesn’t let me download the file of a digital movie, I wouldn’t buy it from them.

I’ve switched back to physical, it’s better and more enjoyable

@davidbull7129

5 ай бұрын

It really is! If you're a movie fan and not supporting physical media then you are a fool!

You're gonna regret not taking this seriously. We're gonna HATE everything being subscription based. "In 2030, you'll own nothing and be happy." Really irritates me that people are so blasé about it. One day we'll realize our favorite movies arent available ANYWHERE or locked away behind expensive premiums. Seriously, its gonna suck. And we'll *all* complain about it. Just like now! But it'll be so much worse. :)

@servare2599

2 ай бұрын

So you’re saying people are “blasé” for not wanting to make room + store 1000s+ movies because they may disappear which is a load 💩 failed to even mention piracy, always seems to get skimmed over in these debates. Piracy is preservation, anything you own is yours until it isn’t anymore, physical isn’t immortal or susceptible to any damage. It’s boring seeing people push this horrible wave of FOMO, it’s just pure fear mongering. Watch movies how you want, there always going to be a way to watch them if they “disappear” 🏴‍☠️

Every comment is against this video.

Movies and shows are removed from streaming services constantly. Most people dont have the luxury to subscribe to multiple services. So movie and shows move from service to service all the time.

Is it just me or did John just sidestep this question? I'm pretty sure streaming is different then digital release.

You’ll own nothing and be happy

I never thought I'd see John more insufferable and naive.

@TheAlexZorba

6 ай бұрын

He is slow

If you lose your internet no movies if the streaming company goes out of business what happens to you’re movies I’m with Nolan physical media is also better with audio and video there’s no comparison. As far as you losing your Blu-ray that’s immaturity on you’re part I have over a 1000 none are lost

Also I think by "Stealing" Nolan meant that Streaming Services alter their movies all the time

I Preordered the 4K edition of Oppenheimer a few weeks ago. One the main reasons I get 4K physical editions is for all the special features, which you wouldn’t get on streaming or buying digital. Can’t wait to watch the special features of Oppenheimer.

I think John purposely deflected from streaming to digital. Nolan talked about "streaming services" which have been known to drop movies/shows for whatever reasons, not "digital" files that you purchase and keep on a PC or whatever.

Is John just conveniently forgetting the many pieces of entertainment removed from streaming? Or the one that get quietly altered for 'modern' audiences?

@Thomas15

6 ай бұрын

John isn’t talking about streaming here, he’s talking about purchasing digital copies of movies. When you do that you download the movie file which you then own. Even if the digital version is removed from sale, if you have the file you still own it.

@MarkEvans-xw5ix

6 ай бұрын

@@Thomas15 did you read the title of the video? Or read the quote from Nolan? He is talking about 'streamers'. If John wasted 10 minutes arguing against something that wasn't what Nolan was talking about then that's on John.

@Thomas15

6 ай бұрын

@@MarkEvans-xw5ix John was just making the point that the choice isn’t between owning a physical copy or watching on streaming (which Nolan was implying). You can instead purchase a digital copy that you permanently own, which solves Nolan’s concern.

@MichaelWhyte01

6 ай бұрын

My only be concern with the downloading and owning a digital copy, and by download, I mean legitimate downloads, is that for video are they not usually encrypted and you need an active account to play them? What if the service shuts down? How would you play your encrypted downloaded movies?

Everyone calm down. A combination of physical and streaming is best.

@matthewlee4697

4 ай бұрын

I agree

Christopher Nolan Is right

There are a lot of well known movies you can't find streaming anywhere. If it's a movie you love, get the DVD.

He’s not wrong. Also, the quality is better on physical. I watched The Last of Us on Max in 4K and then bought the physical 4K and I was surprised how big of a difference it made. It made the 4K on Max look like regular HD.

A day will come, closer than you think, when private collectors will be the only source for certain movies. The Library of Congress should mandate all movie studios to deposit at least one copy of all movies not currently being distributed into the Library for preservation purposes or they will all be lost in time, like tears in rain.

Mine is already pre-ordered. Physical media will always be superior to digital in every way and that’s just a fact. There’s no argument for that. And everything Nolan said is accurate.

Last Year (2022) WB deleted content that people paid for on Amazon. This was reported and articles can be found on it if one searches.

Love Chris Nolan. Love physical media 💿📀

Physical media all the way it comes with the digital code anyways 😂

At least with Blu Ray you get a digital copy

I'm sorry but I call absolute bullshit, Netflix alone has removed so many of my beloved movies over the years. Take for example on of my favourite movies of all time Jaws, I like to watch this at least once a year alongside Close Encounters, Alien etc they are the movies I will always return to from now until I die. I can tell you know these movies I just referenced can come and GO whenever Netflix please, for a few month they are there the next they are not and I don't know when they will come back. Luckily I have these films on Blu-Ray so yes Nolan is 100% correct, if you want to watch a movie and not have it taken away from you physical media is still the best format for home viewing. Also I have had my internet ruin countless movies because of buffering issues if my internet is weak, never had that issue with Blu-Ray ever. The argument for digital is honestly so weak it makes me wonder why it caught on in the first place.

I have not seen digital movies and TV shows removed, but I have seen purchased music removed. I purchased songs from iTunes that can no longer be played because the artist removed them from iTunes. So it could happen.

The moment you said you moved to digital…. 🤦‍♂️… a true collector never looses their physical media

Nolan may be referencing "The French Connection". (A Best Picture winner.) The Digital and Streaming copies have been edited by Disney censors to remove a scene which contains some racial slurs. While the verbiage was unfortunate, the dialog was considered essential to fully understand the character. Only the Blu-ray contains the complete theatrical cut.

I still buy Blu Ray's. HD 4K versions, it just looks better. Plus I don't like how Streaming Services can take movies and shows away. I bought the whole 1st season of Superman and Lois, had it, and now suddenly I'm missing 4 episodes.

Your one of the lucky ones, I put my digitals on apple for the most part and I have gotten movies taken away and only gotten back about 6 of them so saying that it doesn’t happen is crazy lol and yes I’m both a physical and digital 👌🏻🙌🏻

Nolan is 100% correct. I’ve canceled almost all my subscriptions. Crazy money. I’ve over 1000 DVDs and all are in perfect condition. And digital depends on internet connection. I loved the Tom Hanks Movie Greyhound but can’t buy it.

Content do dissapear from some streaming services when the rights is expired.. I have seen many movies and tv show dissapeared from netflix etc..

Blu-Ray has uncompressed audio. I used to stream Netflix, Peacock, and Hulu for my movies. But when I set up my Blu-Ray player properly and watched a movie it was night and day difference. Almost like the theater experience at home. All I have is a samsung soundbar that is paired with a sub.

The fckn bluray comes with a digital code😂… sorry but you lack sense

If the outlet that you buy your digital movies from goes out of business your out of luck. I imagine that in the small print you sign to buy these movies you agree to not hold them liable in the event they have to shut servers down. It seems like I remember something like this already happening.

I think you’re missing the point of the argument. You are talking about PURCHASING digital copies. He’s talking about streaming services which have removed their content that they own on many occasions. One of my favorite KZreadrs, Olan Rogers, had his three season animated show, Final Space, get cancelled and then removed from Max for tax purposes.

I’ve lost a couple movies digitally.

Hate to be that guy, but recently in the last month or so I tried to watch the extended version of the Hobbit and it wanted me to purchase it despite it being in my Google library. Checked the other two in the series as well and the same thing. I can watch it on my phone no problem but if I try to play it on my chromcast they wanna charge me $17 or something for each of those movies.

You know what I miss, going down to the local video store to rent out a movie on Friday night, it was an event , going to my local record store pickin up the latest release of my favourite band on vinyl , checking out the cool art work and lyric sheet , I still support Physical media and will be picking up Oppenheimer on Blu Ray.

What a terrible take from John here, you think that digital media is the same as physical media? You are incredibly wrong, there is fine print that if a certain suppliers collapsed that they will remove all movies and you will forfeit your purchase. So to think that a company will never close its doors and take you money with them you are horribly wrong! Just a bad take!!

@Thomas15

6 ай бұрын

Purchasing a digital copy isn’t the same as a streaming subscription. If you buy a digital copy you actually own the file. As long as you have that file you have the movie.

@spicymemes7458

6 ай бұрын

​@@Thomas15you are also limiting accessibility to people who don't want to buy individual movies or don't have the money for it. People are skipping theaters and they used to wait for rentals, now it is streaming. If streaming is taking over on the grounds of cost, it is because people have less money to spend on entertainment and they would rather pay a fee to rent a library than spend the extra money to buy one thing.

saying that you have had a lot of physical media disappear and get damage sounds more like a you problem.

“There’s a time coming?” John, that time is NOW. You don’t like discs? Okay, aside from Criterion’s Blu-ray release, show me how you would legally watch the original Nightmare Alley? You can’t. How would you watch Hush? You can’t. We are entering a new age of lost media. But instead of film storage fires, CEOs and pen pushers are just erasing them. Sure, the biggest major releases have nothing to worry about, like Oppenheimer, but the principal Nolan is espousing is correct.

@MagnitudeReviews

6 ай бұрын

But the real issue you mention is in regards to examples like Hush. As of right now there is not a single way to watch that film legally. No streaming, no digital, no physical. Tho only option to watch Hush right now is by sailing the seven seas.

I bought my copy of Oppenheimer on Blu-Ray, as well as Martin Scorsese's Mean Streets in Criterion form. Looking at Amazon and Barnes & Nobles, I will say that physical media isn't dying. As long as there are movie fans who collect, Blu-Rays and DVDs are still living.

Purchasing a digital copy of a movie isn’t the same as a streaming subscription. The examples people have of films being removed from streaming platforms are irrelevant. If you buy a digital copy you actually own the file. As long as you have that file you have the movie.

If a digital streamer shuts down or if the online retailer goes under, so does your content. Way back when Target Ticket (their Ultraviolet streaming service) when down, I lost 10 movies. Ever since then I’ve always kept physical media as a backup. Plus, the physical version looks better, specifically 4K Blu-ray content.

@davidjames579

6 ай бұрын

Shouldn't there be insurance for this, like a locker run by a third party, maybe the government, if this happens? Otherwise its theft.

You do not own streaming. They are all glorified rentals. At any point, a licensing agreement could expire, a tax write off can happen, the streaming service decides a title isn’t performing well and removes it from their library, or the internet servers for whatever reason just aren’t working that day. All problems that do not exist with physical media. Sure they’ll break down eventually due to old age, but until then, there is no question that you own the film.

@spicymemes7458

6 ай бұрын

Most people do not care about owning a movie anymore.

@nunouno001

6 ай бұрын

And it’s because of those people that corporations are eroding and gradually killing the concept of ownership.

Way to miss the point, Campea...

I feel this with Netflix exclusives. If want to purchase Arcane or Sea Beast or any other Netflix exclusive, digital or physical, I can’t. You HAVE to be an active subscriber.

I plan to buy it on 4K! Streaming services absolutely lose licensing to hold streaming versions. They can, and HAVE, edited movies on streaming services. Look at The French Connection, earlier this year.

if you haven't checked them out, Nolan's movies IMAX movies look beyond amazing on 4k BLURAY. like way way better than their streaming versions. especially IMAX shots.

I have a physical blu ray collection and couldn’t be happier about my decision. I will be more than happy to purchase the blu ray.

(I'm sorry but) Once again is this an example of a presented wrong "fact" based on uninformed presumptions. WELL IT HAPPENED. Last year in germany "owners" who bought movies (made by the studio "Studiocanal") in the Playstation Store were told by Sony that they basically will loose their purchases from a certain point in time due to expiring licensing rights. So it is simply false that it didn't happened in the past and is likely never happen in the future.

You can buy the disc with digital copy for the same price as the digital copy online, so why not? Internet sucks out in the country where i live, so you can never stream 4k anyway

Totally missing the point Campea

I plan on getting the blu ray version of oppenheimer.

Very odd take on physical media from people who gush about movies for a living. Digital is definitely convenient and usually cheaper than physical. But physical objectively has the better quality. At least point out the pros to physical media. Very odd discussion

@billytessio6326

6 ай бұрын

It's not odd at all. It's pro consumer. You ideally want the best quality for what you're paying. A consequence of big business is that the quality of what you're paying for MUST go down if the business is trying to cut cost in order to maximize profits. We see this decay in every industry.

@thebestspider

6 ай бұрын

@@billytessio6326 I’m not saying it’s odd with the decline of physical media. I’m talking specifically about John’s discussion on the matter and not doing a good job of discussing both sides of physical and streaming. It comes across as “guy who likes streaming and hates physical because he didn’t take good care of his physical collection, so there’s no reason to ever buy physical movies”.

You absolutely can have your digital copy taken from you, and it happens all the time where movies people bought digitally disappear because the distributer loses the rights to it.

The whole business model of making things and then never selling them in any form (physical or digital) such that they can live in perpetuity solely on a streaming platform is the biggest cause of the recent strikes. It just doesn't work.

I can understand people not wanting to hoard thousands of disks, but would recommend everyone to get physical copies of their favourite films/shows.

@ChosenOne-il4bm

5 ай бұрын

yes jjust a few of your personal ones not be a archivist like some people

@dazjackson1972

5 ай бұрын

@@ChosenOne-il4bm I once saw a collector boasting that he had over 1 million hours of content on disk. That's great if you've got a spare 120 years to sit and watch TV - most people want to do more with their lives.

I absolutely agree with him, people will you own disc or blu ray. That's your copy, you control when, where, and how you view the movie.

@davidjames579

6 ай бұрын

Until thieves break into your house and steal it.

@bladerunner27x

6 ай бұрын

@@davidjames579 Well thankfully and fortunately. I have not had that happen and most disc come with a digital copy that you still control.

@kaponosucks

6 ай бұрын

@@davidjames579Better than having a scene removed digitally

@davidjames579

6 ай бұрын

@@bladerunner27x yeah but they take your laptop as well.

@davidjames579

6 ай бұрын

@@kaponosucks better to have the whole movie removed than a scene. That doesn't math

I've literally only bought one film digitally and that was removed from my library a year or two later. I haven't lost any of my blurays. People like you are killing cinema and home media

I think you're misrepresenting what he said here. If you watch the clip he's clearly making a tongue-in-cheek jab at the amount of shows and movies that have disappeared off streaming services in recent years. He's not talking about purchased digital copies.

@bt3779

6 ай бұрын

I have had several digital purchases disappear. Several when one of the platforms disappeared. Also...some of my digital ps3/xbox/wii? Gone...or at least...gone if my device dies.

@davidjames579

6 ай бұрын

​@@bt3779 have you reported this to the Police?

@bt3779

6 ай бұрын

@@davidjames579 Read deep into the T&Cs, there will always be some blah for them to cover them selves. And I recall, even recently, some purchasers lost their purchased content, when the provider dropped the shows (it was I think some WB animation). Is it low risk? Sure...or maybe in the category of who cares.

@davidjames579

6 ай бұрын

@@bt3779 shouldn't you be able to download it?