Пікірлер

  • @jokerperez5637
    @jokerperez56374 күн бұрын

    Hey so I'm trying to spell tyrs name with runes and I'm having trouble figuring out what rune represents the letter y because I'm finding different runes for the letter y but i can't seem to find the what correct one is

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte4 күн бұрын

    It's my understanding that the [y] sound, which sounds like Modern German's Ü, was usually spelled with ᚢ in "standard" Younger Futhark. Later on some people started using ᚤ or ᛦ for that sound, but you can ignore that if you're trying to stick to "standard" Viking Age Younger Futhark.

  • @jokerperez5637
    @jokerperez56374 күн бұрын

    ​@@Hurlebattesweet thanks I've been trying to figure it out because I've been wanting to get a tattoo spelling tyr in runes but couldn't find out how to spell correctly. So it would be written like this?ᛏᚢᚱ

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte4 күн бұрын

    I think it might be ᛏᚢᛦ. Have you seen Jackson Crawford's video "The Younger Futhark Runes ᚱ (reið) and ᛦ (ýr)"?

  • @jokerperez5637
    @jokerperez56374 күн бұрын

    ​@@Hurlebatteok I'll definitely check it out thanks

  • @jokerperez5637
    @jokerperez5637Күн бұрын

    there actually was another question I had that I forgot about, I was wondering as well how to spell Odin with runes?

  • @ConciseCabbage
    @ConciseCabbage17 күн бұрын

    You mentioned (somewhere) that ᛇ never made both a vowel sound and a consonant sound in the same text. Do you think that is intentional or it just so happened that it didn’t have to opportunity to do both. Like maybe none of the words had both sounds present.

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte17 күн бұрын

    I suspect it was intentional but since there aren't many known Futhorc inscriptions it's hard to be confident.

  • @ConciseCabbage
    @ConciseCabbage17 күн бұрын

    When ᛇ began to be associated with /ç/, wasn’t ᚻ already a valid rune for that sound?

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte17 күн бұрын

    I don't think there's consensus on when ᛇ was first associated with [ç]. ᚻ was a valid rune for [ç], but since ᚻ handled [h], [x], and [ç], and since ᛇ was totally redundant, I guess it felt right to take [x] and [ç] from ᚻ and give them to ᛇ.

  • @ConciseCabbage
    @ConciseCabbage19 күн бұрын

    What’s the story behind ᚻᛋ exactly? Was the idea that it was more of a /çs/ sound rather than a /ks/ sound? How prevalent was that combination?

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte18 күн бұрын

    I thought so, but I was told that it might've just been a conservative spelling which no longer reflected the pronunciation. It was apparently pronounced something like /xs/ in Proto-Germanic, and ᚻᛋ and ᛇᛋ might reflect that old pronunciation. Apparently the spelling "rihsigende" shows that a scribe used HS to represent a combination that probably wasn't /xs/, so that might be evidence that HS, ᚻᛋ, and ᛇᛋ were conservative spellings which were being used for /ks/ whether or not /ks/ came from /xs/.

  • @ConciseCabbage
    @ConciseCabbage18 күн бұрын

    @@Hurlebatte that makes sense! We can see that pronunciation in random conservative germanic languages too. Fuhs and Fuchs etc

  • @ConciseCabbage
    @ConciseCabbage19 күн бұрын

    Could you make a video about futhorc punctuation and space markers?

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte19 күн бұрын

    Futhorc didn't really have punctuation.

  • @ConciseCabbage
    @ConciseCabbage18 күн бұрын

    ​@@Hurlebatte I guess it would be a short video then haha. But really, I see ᛬ a fair amount in the corpus, for example. It seems that they used space markers more than things like "sentence enders" for example.

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte18 күн бұрын

    Yeah, no real sentence enders, just word dividers, and most inscriptions don't even use those, and the ones that do are often flippant with them.

  • @LearnRunes
    @LearnRunes22 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the information about the doubling of runes to indicate vowel length. Was the video intended to cut off immediately after you mentioned that?

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte22 күн бұрын

    Ya it's supposed to end there.

  • @LearnRunes
    @LearnRunes22 күн бұрын

    I hadn't realised that the name of the letter yogh was directly derived from the name of the rune ᛇ. That connection explains a lot.

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte22 күн бұрын

    I think that's more assumed than conclusive.

  • @pato01123
    @pato0112328 күн бұрын

    þank you

  • @ronp6108
    @ronp6108Ай бұрын

    Its really difficult for me to hear the audio even at max volume when im driving. If there was some way you could increase the volume by 2 or 3x that would be really helpful! Thanks for the interesting videos.

  • @hunterhansen472
    @hunterhansen472Ай бұрын

    How would you transcribe "þæs oferēode, þisses swā mæg" from the poem Deor and have you thought about making a video transcribing in practice

  • @Hurlebatte
    @HurlebatteАй бұрын

    I like consistently using word dividers, and I prefer the convention of showing gemination, so I'd write the following. ᚦᚫᛋ᛬ᚩᚠᛖᚱᛖᚩᛞᛖ᛬ᚦᛁᛋᛋᛖᛋ᛬ᛋᚹᚪ᛬ᛗᚫᚷ I haven't thought about making a transcribing practice video.

  • @hunterhansen472
    @hunterhansen472Ай бұрын

    @@Hurlebatte Thank you very much I appreciate that response!

  • @staelaa
    @staelaa2 ай бұрын

    A good film þu madest. I luf þe friþful ludes 😁

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte2 ай бұрын

    Þank þee, kind ƿie.

  • @antonyreyn
    @antonyreyn2 ай бұрын

    In Nottingham England I hear thank Yo a lot, just phonetically similar. Cheers Herb

  • @joarGyjuRanar
    @joarGyjuRanar2 ай бұрын

    I've always liked saying Winterfilleth for Winterfylleþ

  • @SalmonOfKnowledge1
    @SalmonOfKnowledge12 ай бұрын

    In Irish, the word for Welsh (language) is "Breatnais" which means "British" maybe because the Brythonic languages of Britain were pretty much all one language until the Anglo-Saxons invaded and forced them into the corners of Wales and Cornwall. It's kind of like how we call Breton what it is called today too.

  • @jsmithy643
    @jsmithy6432 ай бұрын

    Cool kind sunds bro! 😎😎😎

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte2 ай бұрын

    I plan to read out an Anglish translation of Robin Hood and the Monk with this footage as the background. I'd film Sherwood but it's too far away.

  • @ZephLodwick
    @ZephLodwick2 ай бұрын

    Looking forward to it.

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte3 ай бұрын

    COMMENTARY 1) I should've pronounced base with /z/ not /s/. 2) Hewen should've been spelled hewn.

  • @atmanbrahman1872
    @atmanbrahman18723 ай бұрын

    But cove would come from cave which comes from Latin cavitas .

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte3 ай бұрын

    Etymonline says: "cove (n.1) early 14c., "den, cave, gollow nook," from Old English cofa "small chamber, cell," from Proto-Germanic *kubon (compare Old High German kubisi "tent, hut," German Koben "pigsty," Old Norse kofi "hut, shed")."

  • @atmanbrahman1872
    @atmanbrahman18723 ай бұрын

    @@Hurlebatte hmmmm... maybe.

  • @greatscott7691
    @greatscott76913 ай бұрын

    "Wold" is also a good one for "forest". Interestingly, it can also mean "plain" or a "hill" sometimes. That could be a semantic borrowing from Old Norse, since their cognate means "plain" too. That meaning also showed up in English at the same time other Old Norse loans started showing up in writing. It could also be since a lot of the places that were once forests were being cut down into empty plains and hills, and "forest" was already being borrowed from French, the unneeded "wold" shifted to talk about the now treeless countryside.

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte3 ай бұрын

    I forgot to add that one.

  • @hweather369
    @hweather3693 ай бұрын

    i know it's a calque of a german word, but i like 'hinderland', which means roughly: the land behind a port (countryside, wilderness)

  • @jsmithy643
    @jsmithy6433 ай бұрын

    We need more spoken Anglish!

  • @ZephLodwick
    @ZephLodwick3 ай бұрын

    Tƿo þings: Hƿen geƿ sag "Semitisc," geƿ ƿeeld þe be-Ledened licness of þe Biblisc leed "Scem" and þe Greek ƿrordtail "-ite." Sins efen in mean Englisc, ƿe sag "Shem," not "Sem," sculdn't þe more Hebreƿ speaking be þe grund of an Anglisc word? Furþermore, "-ling" is þe ƿordtail ƿeelded for offspring, ƿe sculd sƿap "-ite" ƿið "-ling," geeliding "Scemling." I ƿuld also make þe ilk scift for oðer Bliblisc ƿords for folks: "Canaanite"→"Canaanling," and so on.

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte3 ай бұрын

    In this case I went with what Dutch and German do.

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte3 ай бұрын

    Oh, and last night I noticed Bosworth-Toller has an entry on Ismahelitisc, with one passage cited: "Æt ðam Ismahelitiscum mannum".

  • @timothyeachus7242
    @timothyeachus72423 ай бұрын

    Pretty good eyn sound for ma’in

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte3 ай бұрын

    A handful of these are Celtic and North Germanic, by the way.

  • @antonyreyn
    @antonyreyn3 ай бұрын

    Great woodcraft for the folk. Cheers from Icel land, Sherwood Forest, Mercia

  • @servantofaeie1569
    @servantofaeie15693 ай бұрын

    I think German Runes would handle the consonant shifts like this: ᛈ /pf/ ᛏ /ts/ ᛞ /t/ ᚦ /d/

  • @coolnewpants
    @coolnewpants3 ай бұрын

    Is this narrated in Anglish?

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte3 ай бұрын

    ya

  • @GeneralTyran
    @GeneralTyran3 ай бұрын

    FEN: is a wetland that is alkaline and has high water exchange (water flows in and out). BOG: is a wetland that is acidic and its water mostly comes from rain and snow melt. SWAMP: is a wetland whose vegetation consists of trees or other woody plants. MARSH: is a wetland with other forms of vegetation like reeds and grasses. MIRE: is peatland where peat is actively being formed.

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte3 ай бұрын

    Are those universal? I've noticed different governments and departments using different and highly technical definitions for lots of these topography terms.

  • @GeneralTyran
    @GeneralTyran3 ай бұрын

    They’re more generalized definitions that I found from different sources

  • @ruecole
    @ruecole3 ай бұрын

    I have never heard slough said like that. I have only ever heard "sloo".

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte3 ай бұрын

    It seems to have two pronunciations. dictionary.cambridge.org/us/pronunciation/english/slough

  • @GRD1618
    @GRD16183 ай бұрын

    I wasn't aware the word even had meaning as for me I've only ever known it as the large town a little west of London. And we say it like Hurlebatte did.

  • @servantofaeie1569
    @servantofaeie15693 ай бұрын

    The Musnad stave 𐩦 actually IS akin to Elder Futhark ᛊ, coming from the same Orsinaitish stave, but it makes a sunder lim, /ɬ/.

  • @ConciseCabbage
    @ConciseCabbage3 ай бұрын

    I like the immersive content. Both speech and orthography on the screen :)

  • @ConciseCabbage
    @ConciseCabbage4 ай бұрын

    What happened to your spelling video? Making a new one?

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte4 ай бұрын

    I've decided to not bother with Anglish spelling videos anymore because we keep learning new things which change our spelling recommendations and make my videos outdated. P.S. anglisc.miraheze.org/wiki/Anglish_Alphabet

  • @carcrasheconomy3531
    @carcrasheconomy35314 ай бұрын

    would ʌ be written as ᚢ?

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte4 ай бұрын

    Scholars say Old English didn't have that sound, so it's hard to answer. We'd have to go back in time to know for sure how Futhorc users would've rendered it upon being asked to.

  • @ConciseCabbage
    @ConciseCabbage4 ай бұрын

    Many people today pronounce STRUT almost like a short PALM (FATHER) sound. So it's probably closest to ᚪ

  • @LearnRunes
    @LearnRunes22 күн бұрын

    The sound /ʌ/ wasn't present in English until the FOOT-STRUT split happened. Even now, it's still doesn't exist in some dialects.

  • @kindlytoxic1472
    @kindlytoxic14724 ай бұрын

    For me: If Latin origin: V -> W (E.g. "Vowel" -> "Wowel") If English/Germanic origin: V -> F (E.g. "Every" -> "Efre")

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte4 ай бұрын

    It's my understanding that Old English borrowed Latin versus as fers, so I'd use ᚠ.

  • @battyboio
    @battyboio4 ай бұрын

    Imma need to hunt for a better name for orange Yellowred is a bit of a mouthful Plus i need my favorite colour ti be special for me lmao

  • @JS-vn1og
    @JS-vn1og5 ай бұрын

    There isn't much of an issue with borrowing from other Germanic languages since they all have the same root. It would be better in instances where the word would make us sound like idiots by using it. Example askthing in place of question. If rather borrow from an older Germanic language thank use such a word.

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte5 ай бұрын

    Askthing is just bad Anglish. One could say "a fraining" instead, or any number of other things.

  • @servantofaeie1569
    @servantofaeie15695 ай бұрын

    Why did you include ᚻᚹ but not ᚻᚱ ᚻᚾ ᚻᛚ

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte5 ай бұрын

    I didn't think of those.

  • @wikkano
    @wikkano4 ай бұрын

    I believe that Anglo-Saxon had r̥, l̥, and n̥ as sounds @@Hurlebatte

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte5 ай бұрын

    Version 2. I forgot to mention gemination last time, and I attempted to pronounce [ç] more accurately this time.

  • @jsmithy643
    @jsmithy6435 ай бұрын

    What do you use to make the boards in these videos? If I may ask.

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte5 ай бұрын

    GIMP, if I understand you right.

  • @jsmithy643
    @jsmithy6435 ай бұрын

    @@Hurlebatte What OS do you use?

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte5 ай бұрын

    Windows 10

  • @jsmithy643
    @jsmithy6435 ай бұрын

    @@Hurlebatte Aw man!

  • @loganstrait7503
    @loganstrait75035 ай бұрын

    Are you sure that œthala wasn't used in Westsehsen?

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte5 ай бұрын

    It's impossible to be sure about that kind of thing.

  • @angelusvastator1297
    @angelusvastator12975 ай бұрын

    Anglish sounds abit smoother hmm

  • @PaulJones202718
    @PaulJones2027186 ай бұрын

    Good ol'Two Takes. He'll set you straight.

  • @TrucyFan2008
    @TrucyFan20086 ай бұрын

    Beautiful

  • @RememberGodHolyBible
    @RememberGodHolyBible7 ай бұрын

    Hƿat about the letter "s" ? Ƿas þis not a letter ? It lookeþ like you ƿꝛote ſomething like an r tƿiſe. I iuſt fount your channel, and am iuſt hearing many of ðeſe þings foꝛ the firſt time. Hƿat do you ſay concerning s and ðe long ſ ?

  • @LearnRunes
    @LearnRunes8 ай бұрын

    @Beleidigen-ist-Pflicht How does this compare to your system for writing German in runes?

  • @Schnitzelkins
    @Schnitzelkins8 ай бұрын

    LOL

  • @morbe5276
    @morbe52768 ай бұрын

    sehr gut! ich wollte immer einen runenschrift mit deutsch zu benutzen

  • @Dinostudios1
    @Dinostudios18 ай бұрын

    Very interesting! Do you plan on developing a similar system for german as you did with Younger Futhorc for english?

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte8 ай бұрын

    I made the system already, that's what I used in this video.

  • @mew2knight337
    @mew2knight3378 ай бұрын

    Im not german speaker 😭

  • @alikuk6334
    @alikuk63348 ай бұрын

    Wer schön sein will, der muss auch leiden Aus- und weg- und abschneiden Nadel, Faden, Schere, Licht Doch ohne Schmerzen geht es nicht Rammstein - Zick zack, post-chorus of second verse

  • @mew2knight337
    @mew2knight3378 ай бұрын

    @@alikuk6334 lol Rammstein in runes! pretty swag

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte5 ай бұрын

    ​@@mew2knight337 Rammstein used runes on one of their old demo cassettes.

  • @asuriel07
    @asuriel078 ай бұрын

    My friend, what is the reason for using another form of kaunan?

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte8 ай бұрын

    As far as I know, this form of the C-rune was popular in southern Germany when runes died out there, so it's closer to modern than the one usually seen online.

  • @ine-gt9iz
    @ine-gt9iz8 ай бұрын

    ᛘᚱ᛬ᛚᛁᚴᛅᚱ᛬ᚦᛅᛏᛅ᛬ᛅᚴᛁ