Futhorc Sounds (c. 800 AD)

EXTRA COMMENTARY
1) It's not wholly clear what the ᚷᚳ segment on Maughold Stone 1 stands for, but ~/dʒ/ seems reasonable.
2) ᚾᚸ for [ŋg] seems to appear in London British Library Add. MS 47967.

Пікірлер: 18

  • @Hurlebatte
    @Hurlebatte6 ай бұрын

    Version 2. I forgot to mention gemination last time, and I attempted to pronounce [ç] more accurately this time.

  • @jsmithy643

    @jsmithy643

    6 ай бұрын

    What do you use to make the boards in these videos? If I may ask.

  • @Hurlebatte

    @Hurlebatte

    6 ай бұрын

    GIMP, if I understand you right.

  • @jsmithy643

    @jsmithy643

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Hurlebatte What OS do you use?

  • @Hurlebatte

    @Hurlebatte

    6 ай бұрын

    Windows 10

  • @jsmithy643

    @jsmithy643

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Hurlebatte Aw man!

  • @LearnRunes
    @LearnRunesАй бұрын

    Thanks for the information about the doubling of runes to indicate vowel length. Was the video intended to cut off immediately after you mentioned that?

  • @Hurlebatte

    @Hurlebatte

    Ай бұрын

    Ya it's supposed to end there.

  • @ConciseCabbage
    @ConciseCabbageАй бұрын

    What’s the story behind ᚻᛋ exactly? Was the idea that it was more of a /çs/ sound rather than a /ks/ sound? How prevalent was that combination?

  • @Hurlebatte

    @Hurlebatte

    Ай бұрын

    I thought so, but I was told that it might've just been a conservative spelling which no longer reflected the pronunciation. It was apparently pronounced something like /xs/ in Proto-Germanic, and ᚻᛋ and ᛇᛋ might reflect that old pronunciation. Apparently the spelling "rihsigende" shows that a scribe used HS to represent a combination that probably wasn't /xs/, so that might be evidence that HS, ᚻᛋ, and ᛇᛋ were conservative spellings which were being used for /ks/ whether or not /ks/ came from /xs/.

  • @ConciseCabbage

    @ConciseCabbage

    Ай бұрын

    @@Hurlebatte that makes sense! We can see that pronunciation in random conservative germanic languages too. Fuhs and Fuchs etc

  • @carcrasheconomy3531
    @carcrasheconomy35315 ай бұрын

    would ʌ be written as ᚢ?

  • @Hurlebatte

    @Hurlebatte

    5 ай бұрын

    Scholars say Old English didn't have that sound, so it's hard to answer. We'd have to go back in time to know for sure how Futhorc users would've rendered it upon being asked to.

  • @ConciseCabbage

    @ConciseCabbage

    5 ай бұрын

    Many people today pronounce STRUT almost like a short PALM (FATHER) sound. So it's probably closest to ᚪ

  • @LearnRunes

    @LearnRunes

    Ай бұрын

    The sound /ʌ/ wasn't present in English until the FOOT-STRUT split happened. Even now, it's still doesn't exist in some dialects.

  • @servantofaeie1569
    @servantofaeie15696 ай бұрын

    Why did you include ᚻᚹ but not ᚻᚱ ᚻᚾ ᚻᛚ

  • @Hurlebatte

    @Hurlebatte

    6 ай бұрын

    I didn't think of those.

  • @wikkano

    @wikkano

    5 ай бұрын

    I believe that Anglo-Saxon had r̥, l̥, and n̥ as sounds @@Hurlebatte