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I'm David, and my main goal with this channel (and life) is to help people fall in love with Jesus Christ. Usually that means that when we talk about stuff, Jesus and/or the Bible are going to be mentioned at some point in the video. I'm super passionate about helping people dive deeper into Scripture as well as understanding how we can view artistic content (religious or non-religious) through the lens of the gospel, so if you're interested in that sort of stuff--or if you want to get to know somebody who is--we'd love to have you join us on the journey :)
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The whole story about Thomas was fictional and they shouldn’t add to the Bible.
@@Joeyisundead they didn't add to the Bible. I don't like the Thomas storyline, but they never claimed it was Scriptural
by the way, do you have a copy of this spreadsheet somewhere?
I think the change in chronological order has to be due to logistical challenges. Like you have to find a good dancer and set up a very fancy banquet. So, I feel like it's okay to put it in Season 4 episode 1 instead
Super job! 🎉🎉🎉
Loved ,loved , loved this. This was the best. I had a few of these and oh how I laugh about it now. Would love to go back to those days and enjoy my little ones.
I think that Jesus speaks to Shimeil with the others because he loves even if you don't love him back. That's the depth of God's love.
The Chosen doesn't claim to usurp scripture - not one tiny bit!
@@pamelabower4510 I never said it did :)
@@NowLetsBeHonest At one point it seemed implied. I'm sure I misheard. Please, David, keep up the good work. I think you're amazing!
Well they do add weird random things that never happened in the gospels and we all know you shouldn’t add to the Bible . Especially for the sake of entertainment.
I like what you do very much, just one thing (I am a nerd myself): you never go down to Jerusalem, you go up to Jerusalem. You may have to pass through the valley of Kedron, so you pass down a little bit from Bethany , but then again up. Jerusalem is elevated, and all the travels for the feast were /are travels UP to Jerusalem. Just a nerdy thing …
Is it possible the writers are setting up this Pharisee for a new actor Saul-Paul?
Just so you know, Brandon snipe also does not like the lack of order and chronology in the Chosen either it bugs him like it bugs you. I like to listen to some of you guys talking about the show. And I’m older, so I get a kick out of how fast you talk. Everybody talks so fast these days I can’t even hardly catch up with you guys but it’s kind of funny. Probably good for me to figure out what you’re saying for my brain power! Ha ha. Thank you very much for your video as usual
G'day, David! Why do you think the writers changed Shmuel's character from one who was at least open to Jesus to one in direct opposition? I found that disappointing.
Shmuel exemplifies wanting to be open, but then being asked to stretch beyond tradition. Remember how Nicodemus cautioned him about keeping God in a box? Yusuf seems to be much more open, even coming to warn (in a disguise), He’s truly open.
Because it’s true to life. There are people just like him today. They have their own ideas how serving God or the Christian life should look like, they get too caught up in legalism or tradition and total miss what Jesus is actually saying and what He actually wants them to do.
I don't think they changed anything. This was likely Samuel's story arc all along. So close, but unable to truly believe; kind of like Judas.
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I must agree: season 4 is easily the most mature season of the show, but they veered from their original purpose at points.
The tragic entry is an apt title.
Especially how it ends.
Only things that bother me about The Chosen being they say they are not 100% biblical is when they do anti biblical changes with Jesus himself. like ... Him not healing his Disciple.. Him not healing or raising Thomas' Fiancée or raising her from the dead.. The lack of dependence on the Father Instead he gets a hug from a converted roman or his mom.. Complaining about his Disciples the ones he took all night to Pray about.. His being mad that the Religious leaders are throwing people out of the synagogues if they say Jesus is the messiah These never happened and Make Jesus look bad i do understand they are trying to make Jesus more human.. but to change these things makes Jesus not Jesus .
God bless you two! Love your reviews, smallville is also my favorite..I'm here for the ride :)
As for the anointing of Jesus’ feet at 11:00 I think you’re missing the fact that the four gospel accounts are not describing the same single event. There are different places, women, participants, etc. It would be good to highlight that The Chosen only showed the one in John, not just that they relied on it. That one time was a totally unique anointing, and very different from the other 3. 🙏
@boaz63 Most likely the accounts of Matthew, Mark, and John are all describing the same event. Luke's is the only one which seems to be describing another one👍
I truly appreciate the breakdown, but one question that I have is: Why are some folks taking an issue with the chronology of David's appearances? The scenes are flashbacks and references. Jesus often referred to historical events in Israel's history and even more often quoted the Old Testament. The chronological order of these references is not the relevant point. Am I missing something here??
@TheGenieLover it's mainly because the Chosen goes out of the way to put the dates on the screen. (This is the first episode where they didn't do that.) If they didn't put the dates on the screen, it'd be easier to overlook, but when there are clear contradicting chronological timestamps, it can be a bit frustrating. (It's as if I were to say, "Today is Thursday, and yesterday was Sunday." It's just a small inconsistency that sticks out if you're paying attention to it, but ultimately it isn't of much consequence to the story itself.)
26:09 I respect your differing preference (i.e. that you don't like this part of the arc). But hear me out: I relate to this portrayal, as one who had recently been there -- yes even as a seasoned believer --- and back. With Judas in the scene, I can even dare say I can relate with him -- and so continue to be forewarned and surrendered.
9:57 I didn't find it strange that He would tell Shmuel that, or to any unbeliever for that matter. I find that a way to challenge to look into what "as I have loved you" looks like. It could be argued that there are instances Shmuel could have looked back to to see Jesus' love for him (e.g. inviting him to join Him praying).
@clintonlagdameo5452 I definitely get where you're coming from, but I guess to me, the phrase "as I have loved you" only captures the full weight of the words when built on a more intimate relationship defined by habitual and repeated demonstrations of said love. (For instance, my best friend would be able to describe and understand and replicate my love far more than a casual aquaintance I have run into on occassion.) Technically Shmuel had experienced Jesus' love, but not to the degree of depth which the command itself is calling us to love one another. I don't know if that makes sense or not.
@@NowLetsBeHonest I think it's just that along the way, there was a season when I had a paradigm where I kinda strictly distinguished commands & promises that are "for believers" and those that are "for the public" and sort of freak out with, "Hey, that's only for us! Become a believer first!" While that doesn't mean it's not true, I'm in a season when that's no longer my attitude. I mean, I learned about "preaching the Gospel to myself daily," "there are parts of our hears that has not yet believed the Gospel" -- a picture of the ongoing work of sanctification, and yes, if not for grace, how like an unbeliever any of us could still be. So yeah, I come from you could say a renewed perspective of how little differences I have with unbelievers (i.e. His grace), but not of course negating how much He's transformed me, and He sees me differently, too.
Thank you for breaking the episodes down for us David x
The Thomas story line doesn’t particularly bother me except to say I think the time spent on it could have been used for better and actual biblical things
Hi David!! Thank you for your in depth breakdown of the Chosen’s season finale!! I’m like other commenters here who feel the Thomas/Rhama storyline was a bit much. It felt like it was done for dramatic effect. I’m greatly anticipating season five, however. Well done on your commentary!! Sending lots of love and prayers to you and your family!! Take care!!😍😍😍🙏🙏🙏
Well done. Thank you!
I agree what you said about Thomas. I meant to add this in your discussion about what happened to Ramah, but I guess I will put it here. In my opinion, the show does a great job when it is developing things that are based in scripture, or adds storylines to what we know from scripture in order to make a cohesive story. It loses me sometimes when it has “original storylines” that are not actually based in scripture because they feel more like writer manipulation of the audience. Ramah’s death scene felt to me like a lot of TV shows when they want to just have a “shocking moment” for the audience just for the sake of the emotional jolt the audience will feel. It made me think that every scene of Ramah and Thomas for the entire series was pretty much a waste of time.. That time could have been better spent showing more things that actually happened in scripture, even if they were just developing or adding to what is there. I felt the same way with Peter last season with what happened to Eden and their baby. I know that sometimes, they want us to have these moments that they feel like the audience can connect because they’ve experienced something similar, but I don’t think it’s worth it to shoehorn things in where it serves a lesser purpose. If anything, I feel like that detracts from some of the characters. For instance, I feel like Jesus looks very thoughtless in Ramah’s death scene because I felt like He wasn’t really caring for His followers since He was so busy trying to preach a sermon. It happened again when they threw rocks at Him in the synagogue. And that only reminded me that I usually feel like Mary Magdalene, Ramah, and Tamar don’t fit in scenes because they wouldn’t normally be the disciples in those situations. Wouldn’t Christ do more to protect female followers if they were right there in the midst of potentially violent situations? I think so. Thomas has just been given a chance to mope around and be bitter in several scenes, which I don’t think adds to his character, but I suppose the writers felt like we needed some thing to add drama to the story. The biblical narrative has dropped enough drama of its own. I think by the end of the series, I will be ambivalent about most of the original characters who appeared in the series, even though I do enjoy the show overall.
My friend, REV 22, 18-19! Plus, there is no "original story", there us just The Scripture and either its adaptation or twisting. I agree The Chosen twists it, but I must add that Your perception of the show (and seemingly of Christianity as such) is like it has to bargain with the world. Don't subconsciously judge it by how it will or will not be perceived, rather focus on God's view on that. Don't be afraid! Every one that neglects the mysthical aspect of God's work hasn't understand Christianity at all. We must never ever look at how people will look like something. Everything is in His hands!
@@Tony-ci7ys What?
Thomas and Ramah's arc has introduced an emotional side of Christianity no one delves into as intimately: the struggle with us following Christ, knowing He can do anything but not understanding why He wouldn't.
@@wjjhanky Didn’t we already see that last season? With multiple characters?
@WhitneyR. could you give me an example? None with emotional emphasis that I can remember. It was a key focus here but I know it's littered with similar emotional struggles, but none that really got me thinking,relating, and trying my best to understand God
i have a question but alot of people are speculating for nicodemus to comeback in s5. hopefully he has another interesting scene with schmuel and jesus🙏
I love that you know who Keith Green is. ❤ Have you ever read his life story 'No Compromise' written by Melody Green? Great video, as always! 🙏❤
@@tigrlady2u yep, I read it a few years back! Keith Green is one of my favorites.
I saw Keith Greene and 2nd Chapter of Acts perform live in the early 70s! They're still some of my favorites. And no one has harmony like 2nd Chapter of Acts! One of Annie Herring's lessor known songs is my all time favorites, but I cannot find the music to it anywhere. It's called The Master's Hand.
Jesus has other bigger issues on his mind
Judas is way too obvious. Unfortunately, making Judas the lone objector to Mary makes the disciples look inattentive, rather than Jesus being perceptive.
thank you
I personally disliked the whole Ramah storyline this season, it took away attention from the storyline of the miracles; it’s a weird decision to make up that storyline
I liked it because it gave a backstory to why Thomas is so doubtful even though he’s seen all Jesus’ miracles
Creative license has been taken to write out characters and story development. It's a program made for Television. If you want biblical, read your bible. TV and Film can only do so much. Is it biblical? probably not.
Did you watch the video?
It’s biblical in a sense that these things happen to real disciples and real believers. I’m glad they’re tackling these topics. I myself have personally gone through enough trauma that I can relate to the character in the show. Life will make you question faith, but endure until the end and you win.
Agree with everything you analyzed, except in the case of Rema... SOMEONE in the crowd when Messiah and Barabbas were standing there as two options for release...had to have a very solid and bitter reason to start shouting "Crucify Him!!" It had to be someone who had a powerful enough 'story' to tell, to turn a crowd saying "Hosanna" when Messiah entered Jerusalem, to a crowd who seeked His death on a roman cross.... I believe Rema's father will be very busy telling his version of who Messiah is, to all who are willing to listen...and he is probably already in Jerusalem as well spreading his own version of what happened to his daughter, and who's to blame...
To be fair, there were huge crowds crying Hosanna, whereas only a select group of people would've been present at the trial to cry Crucify Him.
I assume they were mostly paid or friends with the religious leaders.
I believe The Chosen's artistic licence they sometimes take, as with Channukah Gifts, is part of their effort to make the times of 2000 years ago, more relatable and palatable for current audiences...it would be hard to merge the book ends of such a historical time gap without appropriate threads of relatable suggestions... The Chosen is not a series which 'preaches to the choir'...it is meant to perk interest in a world wide audience, about this Magnificent God/Man who entered the world to take upon Himself the burden of sacrifice and pay in full the deadly consequence for what the first Adam did by squandering the precious gift of Life and Wisdom, and eternal relationship with the Creator... The God/Man who overcame and conquered death, and who offers His victory and sacrifice as Gift of Salvation to all who would just reach out to Him and accept it in full... What truly warms my heart, is that the majority of comments on the episodes are not those of condemnation or ridicule...but of displaying an interest to wipe off the dust from Bibles long neglected...and opening them again to read with a closer scrutiny, and perhaps even discovering nuggets that for centuries where just glanced over, and disregarded... What I also appreciate, is the fact that the cast and crew come from many different walks, philosophies and religious backgrounds...and yet...what better way to minister to THEM, having them act out the very Gospel, they might have rejected...scorned and ridiculed in years prior...and seeing the light in their eyes when even they begin to join the dots... Shalom from Israel...
Beautifully stated.
The children of the devil verse that is in the gospels is also antisemitic
You are wrong about that the sanhedrin couldnt execute Jesus though, they could for blasphemy and the punishment would have been stoning, but not for crimes against rome and definetly not by crucifixion, and in the story of the chosen, caiaphas didnt want jesus to be executed for just blashemy, he wanted him to be seen as an enemy of rome, and this is where I feel like it could be getting into the realm of antisemitism too, I just wish the chosen would be more careful about this stuff
This whole thing where the sanhedrin planning to have jesus killed by romans, thats one of the things that can be antisemitism coz if Jesus caused this much problem than pilate would have no problem executing Jesus all on his own, coz pilate was ruthless, and he wouldnt have been convinced by the sanhedrin anyway, coz he didnt care about them anyway, and also when some people read the gospels they think that real life jewish people dont understand their own texts and that thats why they wont convert to christianity which is antisemitism, if you want to know more i can recommend a podcast called the two cities episode 108, its about antisemitism and pharisees
I argue against the accuracy stoning scene. Every time I can find a stoning described in the bible the Jews take the condemned out of the camp or the city. Given that death and blood are unclean I can't imagine that they would try to kill someone inside the temple. Besides the account says they tried to seize him but Jesus was hidden from them.
Yeah biblically speaking I imagine they were preparing to stone him, but he escaped before they ever got the chance
@@NowLetsBeHonest I’ve heard the only place the Jews could inflict death was in the temple. There were even signs (in multiple languages) that stated if you entered and were unclean or a Gentile, that you would be put to death.
@@NowLetsBeHonest I would also argue that the way the show is structured creates problems with the disciple's stories. In the show they are facing stoning, arrest, and murder. If they face that now and they still follow Jesus, why would they run away at Gethsemane. In the gospels it says that no one could lay a hand on Jesus because his time had not yet come. It makes more sense that the disciples see increasing victories and have their beliefs turned upside down when Jesus is arrested.
Hi there...I think I understand why Messiah Yeshua could have left Thomas to 'cook in his own sauce'...(so to speak)... 1. Rema went to ask her father's permission to marry Thomas... he refused, and she disregarded his will...going back to Thomas... That was a sin against the Fifth Commandment, and they were all STILL under the Law. 2. The hint that Rema lost good standing with God was when she asked Messiah to 'stand in for her' as 'father', so she could marry Thomas...and He answered her that He will discuss this issue with her after the shiva for John the Baptist...avoiding an answer at that time. 3. Thomas knew that by pursuing Rema after her father said no,... he himself, was also disrespecting her father... 4. The Divine Wrath kicked in, when Thomas gave Rema a 'gift' of great value...basically the signature of betrothal...fixing the path to marriage... 5. The fifth commandment comes with a blessing...but if NOT obeyed would obviously result in the opposite... Rema did not have her days 'lengthened' because she dishonoured her father. 6. Thomas' anger and frustration is mixed with guilt and really aimed against himself, feeling guilty as he should...but he takes it out on Messiah, because he knows Messiah is the only one who could reverse the consequences...that's why he told him...'take it back'...when Messiah did nothing to heal or ressurect Rema... (Thomas had to come to ask Messiah forgiveness, but He couldn't see that yet, and God forces no one...it has to be out of choice.) 7. There was also a time issue for the 'last miracle' to take place... Had Messiah ressurect Rema...in front of that crowd...the timeline for His entry into Jerusalem on a donkey would not happen, He would not have been recognized as Messiah ... and prophecy would not have been fulfilled...because He would have been arrested right there and then.... Just my thoughts.
Tending to agree with this
The whole Thomas-Ramah story is completely made up right? I'm a Christian my whole life and except from The Chosen, i have never heard or read anywhere that the Apostle Thomas was about to mary but his fiancee (??) was killed. Ramah is completely fiction like Peter's wife's miscarrige right?
Yes, it is entirely fictional. Ramah and all storylines involving her were made up for the show
@@NowLetsBeHonest Thank you for answering! The Ramah storyline is useless in my opinion. Because there are people who get to know these stories for the first time through this show and it might lead to misinformation to them. Even i who, i know a pretty good amount of stuff about the Bible and the lives of the Apotles, i was doubting my kowledge because they show her SO much in the show and they made a whole deal with Thomas over her death so i was kinda like "Is there some truth to it? Have i been missing something?" So If it got a Christian confused, imagine other people. It wasn't necessary (in my opinion of course)
@fotinitsipa6235 I can see both sides to the argument, but I definitely agree more so with you. As artists, they have creative freedom, but I think it was a huge distraction and actually changes the implications of later stories which are found in the Gospels
@@NowLetsBeHonest Yeah it's like the added stories are creating little "detours" from the real thing. Especially for those who don't know. On the other hand however, it made people actually want to read the Bible which is the best thing it could come out of this show
I mean... Dallas did not say he was recreating the bible so I expected it
He is God, he can see what everybody truly has in their hearts, the pain, the sadness, and yet he is a man.
As far as Jesus quoting Psalm 22 from the cross, we know that God cannot stand sin or allow it into His presence. Jesus became sin for all of us. Therefore, it's believable that the Father & Holy Spirit both withdrew from Him. He was without God's presence for the 1st time in His life and He found it to be horrifying! More so than the pain of the crucifixion! That should give us a glimpse of what eternity without Him will be - more horrifying than being crucified. 😱 Don't let that happen.
I think that you should have added little James's pain In the hypothetical part to
I thought about it, but I included that in my episode 6 video, so I didn't wanna repeat it
@@NowLetsBeHonest ah ok for me it's two different situations and the reactions are also important in this episode especially big James's réaction and Nathaniel's one too but also little James answer
I was OK with Thomas's reaction. As a widow, who loves Yeshua, I can tell you that his reaction isn't out of the ordinary for what happened. And even trusting Yeshua, it still takes time. LOTS of time. So I'm OK with Thomas.
Simon’s portrayal of the grief of a lost baby, and Thomas’s portrayal of lost betrothed wife are relatable to me also. Particularly Simon. I think the writers have created these plot lines to establish rapport between some characters and swaths of the audience. Art asks for contemplation of the artist’s vision.
You are so good at this. Awesome job. Entertained while learning 💪