The CHOSEN is a TV SHOW.

Am I the only one that doesn’t think it’s just a coincidence that Ramah and Quintus specifically shared that ending scene? They’re just trying to bookend fictional characters in order to push nonfictional characters. Thomas and Gaius were the obvious ones. However, after watching episodes 4 and 5 it also solidifies Kafni and Atticus playing key roles during the crucifixion on both ends of the same storyline.

Losing a baby infant is very hard my daughter and her husband has lost second baby do to miscarriage. God knows this is why we turn to him for strength & prayers.

I am in total agreement with you concerning Thomas. By using Ramah, it takes away the whole motive for what Thomas says to Jesus when he wants to visit Lazarus again(reminding Jesus he is not just risking his life, but theirs) as well as the doubting Thomas stuff.

I'm one of those people who is fine with Ramah's death...well not fine emotionally, thanks for ripping my heart out and stopping on it Dallas & co. But I'm fine with how they portrayed the scene artistically. I think the show portayed the chaos of a life and death situation and the many different ways the situation could've gone if people made different choices. Did Jesus foresee every outcome while he was on earth? With a human brain? 🤷‍♀️ I don't know how the hypostatic union works. I don't know how many people picked up on this, but earlier in the episode Ramah notices a pregnant woman walking by her and Thomas and she starts talking to Thomas about Eden's miscarriage. You don't get to hear the conversation, but I think that as the camera is panning out Ramah is telling Thomas what to do if she dies in childbirth, not an uncommon occurrence. I think it's heartbreaking and affecting that her last words are "Stay with Him, that's all I want." She makes him promise not to lose his faith in Jesus, and I think you see in the following episodes honoring that promise is the only thing getting him through his grief. Maybe I'm more forgiving of the show because the performances are so great.

Jonathan Christ should’ve said, “I’m sorry Thomas but she wasn’t real, in fact, none of this is real, it’s just a TV Show designed to sell merchandise with quotes that Jesus never said.” 😂

@NowLetsBeHonest

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Lol🤣 I guess he could have said, "This was necessary because we really need to get you to a point of brokenness so the rest of history can know you ad the dude who doubted."

@ronaldgansler8812

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Yes it’s a fictional story with bible scriptures sprinkled through out. It’s meant for entertainment only. However, if it makes people more curious about the Bible then the series has accomplished what the producers intended. Any scripture portrays is accurate. So get over it. Gheeeeeeres

Terrific

Wow David fantastic your reference to the blind man who never got to see Jesus ! And linked with John 20:29 one of my favourite biblical passages ever ! Such a pity they didn’t do it as it actually happened x

Hello. Great video as always. I sympathize with your frustration as I too am a lover of storytelling and the artistic choices made in film/television. I think it’s even more agitating when we see a piece of media that’s so well made, make choices we feel don’t add or aren’t properly executed. Ever since I saw this episode when it came out in theaters and then later saw your video where you discussed your grievances on this particle topic, I have thought about it a lot and have tried to see if I can reconcile with it. Because like you, I don’t have a theological problem with this choice. It really comes down to the storytelling choices that center around the portrayal of Jesus. However, after rewatching the episodes and listening to some of the comments made by Dallas, Jonathan, Yasmine, and Joey, plus my own analyzation of these episodes, I feel less conflicted. Although, I would love to stare those thoughts with you, in the hopes that maybe it helps with your own frustrations. But only if you’re interested. Congrats on your engagement and God bless.

by the year 32 ad, or whenever jesus paid the temple tax for himself and for peter, it is strongly hinted that of the apostles, peter was the oldest of at least older than 20 years old. the rest of the apostles were teenagers. this is predictable since in ancient times, a boy who reaches the age of 13 is considered a man

I’m there a way to slow down the video/audio? Too fast, can’t follow it.

@NowLetsBeHonest

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Yes, if you click the gear (⚙️) icon, there is a setting where you can slow things down or speed them up :)

26:53 these are issues I also have with concocting complex characters and events which are not in the Bible. Quintas, Ramah, Shmuel and Eden's miscarriage take away time from so many parables which could have been portrayed instead. All of the problematic ways which you address that one could view Jesus all stem from the complex creation of Quintas and Ramah who are not Biblical characters.

Is the title a typo?

@NowLetsBeHonest

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Ahhh, yes! It's supposed to say episode 3🤣

@EmMiller-wu3dy

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Very thoughtful review. I do disagree somewhat in the improbable section, but that may be because Ryan and Tyler explained the story arc in their interview in The After Show (on The Chosen app). The Chosen is moveable art for me, and like all art, it’s subjective. I’m disappointed that people would give you grief over how you feel about things. God bless.

I think what you THINK Jesus is “feeling” is based on your own human emotions. It’s what YOU yourself may have done but not what a righteous God would have done. We are all too connected to our own faulty human emotions that we tend to impose them on to our Lord. I think what ppl who try to “portray” Jesus in a certain light and are easily offended when Jesus doesn’t fill that bill is that our connection to Jesus is not to His love but to His justice. His one goal was to get ppl to come to Christ because He knew the ultimate justice was coming. So, yes, Jesus is love but He didn’t walk the earth like Glenda the good witch of the East spreading love here and there. He was there to save lives and point to His father who will ultimately drop the proverbial hammer.

@NowLetsBeHonest

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As I said several times in the video, my issues aren't theological, but artistic. If the actual Jesus had done this stuff, it wouldn't bother me. But we can't allow ourselves to become idolatrous or equate the Chosen to Scripture: This is not "our Lord," but a fictional depiction of our Lord. That's a key difference. This isn't the historical Jesus, but a fictional version in a fictional scene in a fictional show. Since the showrunners aren't perfect (nor do they claim to be), it only follows that Jesus could, at times, be misrepresented. We have to test everything with Scripture. Also, I don't have much of an emotional connection to the scene, good or bad. My convictions aren't based on what I would have done, nor my emotions, but from comparing the Jesus of Scripture to the Jesus depicted. And again, I didn't say they depicted Jesus wrongly; I just said it's a strange creative place to put Jesus in

What isn't generally known is that Mary, the mother of Yeshua(/Jesus), had a sister Salome. This may suggest "why" Salome , mother of James and John was so bold as to make the request that James and John be His right and left hand men, since she would have been Yeshua's maternal aunt. It would also mean John and James were Yeshua's first cousins which also explains why Yeshua, dying on the cross, committed Mary , His mother to John's care, since Mary would have been his maternal aunt. It would also explain "why" both John and Salome were allowed to be there while Yeshua was being crucified, while all the other disciples were in hiding. They would be seen as family to the condemned. It's not the only family connections. Joseph of Arimathea was Mary's uncle, making him grand-uncle to Yeshua, and the reason why he was allowed to claim the body of Yeshua and bury Him in his family tomb. Elizabeth and Mary were cousins, making John the Baptist and Yeshua second cousins. John Mark (St. Mark) (and his mother) have family connections to Peter, since St Mark was Peter's biographer, but they also appear to be related to Yeshua ( one of His half-sisters) to Peter and John Mark, associated with the wedding in Cana, and the Upper Room and the Last Supper.

@EmMiller-wu3dy

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I know Salome is mentioned in scripture as being at the cross, but I don’t recall Joseph A being mentioned as a relative in the Bible.

@zayithintj9379

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@@EmMiller-wu3dy Mary, Yeshua's mother was of the tribe of Judah (listed in her genealogy as from her father's side), but both Elizabeth's and Mary's lineage came from Mary's mother's side, tribe of Levi. Joseph was Mary's uncle, her mother's brother, and Yeshua's grand-uncle. It's quite simple really. If someone close to you dies, who can claim the body for burial except family to the deceased? kzread.info/dash/bejne/aIeK2pqtd7y4krA.html

@jperez7893

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you are correct

I didn’t like addition of the Ramah character for a love interest just for her to be killed for Thomas to become “doubting Thomas”. He was already doubting and questioning things in season one.

I think what you THINK Jesus is “feeling” is based on your own human emotions. It’s what YOU yourself may have done but not what a righteous God would have done. We are all too connected to our own faulty human emotions that we tend to impose them on to our Lord.

RAMAH was a made up storyline.RAMAH was a village and not thomas girlfriend and was never stabbed to death.this scene was made up. and made JESUS seem so weak.and helpless .the chosen needs to WARN the people that the next scene was added.i thought the name of your show was LETS BE HONEST.why not point that out.

@anneofgreengables1367

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Uuumm…he was 😅

THE CHOSEN is first of all pagan - second of all the show focuses on the human feelings of the followers - and on making Jesus human - I do not see this show biblical but rather a show that simply makes you think - and that is all. The true YAHSHUA MESSAIAH died and rose exactly as the prophecy of JONAH states, in the middle of the week - Wednesday - for 3 days and 3 nights, Saturday glorifying YAH - ALL MIRACLES HAD TO HAPPEN ON THE SABBATH, AND HIS MINISTRY WAS EXACTLY 490 DAYS also as prophesied - more proof to YAHSHUA is in the ancient Hebrew in the starry sky known originally as the Mazzaroth. YAH'S WORD is not to be misleading - BUT what do pagans do best?

I didn't like the whole Thomas/Ramah storyline. It felt like a silly distraction. Thomas acted like a 16-year with his first love. Too, too corny.