King ColeMan

King ColeMan

King ColeMan is an educational channel dedicated helping users and collectors of gas pressure appliances...not just Coleman...to understand and enjoy their gear. We're located on Vancouver Island in British Columbia and your host is Bill Klock.

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  • @yoeflores3456
    @yoeflores34563 күн бұрын

    Yo tengo una d ésa

  • @davidlittlejohn2640
    @davidlittlejohn26404 күн бұрын

    I really enjoy your videos Bill, you have been a great help. I’ve recently acquired my first L427 Canada 10/26. After removing the pump and pump tube casing I cannot figure out how to get at the check valve in the bottom of the casing. I cannot find a video that addresses the problem. Do you have any experience with this issue? Any help will be greatly appreciated

  • @king.coleman
    @king.coleman2 күн бұрын

    @@davidlittlejohn2640 This might help. The external pump 427s are different from other check valves. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmdruMWCqbDVZqw.htmlsi=I6z61DIBaKC8PJ3Y

  • @user-mb6qc6iu3r
    @user-mb6qc6iu3r4 күн бұрын

    Hey King, How 'bout something about Redi-lite, a AGM product in beautiful royal blue livery? Also, have never seen anyone do anything on Nulite?

  • @king.coleman
    @king.coleman2 күн бұрын

    @@user-mb6qc6iu3r AGM products don’t turn up very often in Canada. That said, while I was down at the ICCC convention I found what looks like an AGM 287, so I may be able to make a video on that.

  • @user-mb6qc6iu3r
    @user-mb6qc6iu3r2 күн бұрын

    @@king.coleman Thanks for response. How 'bout a video on a Nulite?

  • @melindafrazier7322
    @melindafrazier732211 күн бұрын

    Excellent work

  • @TraceyAllen
    @TraceyAllen12 күн бұрын

    Going to rebuild one I just got this Sunday. Question do the vents always change color when they are burned.

  • @king.coleman
    @king.coleman6 күн бұрын

    @@TraceyAllen Yes, that’s normal.

  • @Bryan1Hersey
    @Bryan1Hersey13 күн бұрын

    I just got a 228D in pretty good condition. Someone at some point destroyed the wings to the check valve. What drastic measures should I try to remove it? It isn’t functional (check valve).

  • @king.coleman
    @king.coleman6 күн бұрын

    @@Bryan1Hersey An easy out is pretty much your only option at that point.

  • @pauldeary
    @pauldeary13 күн бұрын

    That’s been my problem painting on a metal table and plastic sheet. It would stick to it even though it felt dry to the touch. Now I leave it hanging on make shift washing line for at least 14hrs.

  • @pauldeary
    @pauldeary14 күн бұрын

    Smart man bill lol. It’s sunny and hot here in Scotland at the moment so my 413g is hanging on a make shift washing line 😅

  • @king.coleman
    @king.coleman14 күн бұрын

    Heh. The first time I used the oven my wife was pretty angry, so the next time I wanted to bake paint it was on a hot day and I decided to try baking them in the car as I left it sitting in the sun. It was about 150°F in the car and it worked pretty well...except fuzz from the velour seats ended up stuck on the stove wherever it was touching the seat. Oops.

  • @pauldeary
    @pauldeary14 күн бұрын

    How long do you leave your paint to dry. Do you put in an oven or air dry? Great videos to watch attention to details is great.

  • @king.coleman
    @king.coleman14 күн бұрын

    If I recall correctly, the Duplicolor has a 48 hour drying time. The high heat primer and high heat gloss black require oven curing. The parts that got the high heat paint were baked in the oven. I ended up curing the final coat of green paint in the oven as well so that I could more quickly get on with sanding and the clear coat. Ordinary spraypaint can be quickly cured in the oven at about 200-250° for 30. Of course, it needs to be dry enough to handle before you do that.

  • @pauldeary
    @pauldeary14 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the information bill, unfortunately Al need to air dry as my oven is way to small lol.

  • @king.coleman
    @king.coleman14 күн бұрын

    @@pauldeary That might be a blessing. A surefire way to raise the ire of your wife is baking paint in the kitchen oven. It smells awful and takes a while to clear out...and the oven usually smells like paint the first time you turn it on afterward. When possible, I tend to use our gas grill instead. I just have to be careful it does't flare up and scorch the paint.

  • @RobertStrachan-ub7li
    @RobertStrachan-ub7li17 күн бұрын

    Great video thanks

  • @disneytiki5735
    @disneytiki573519 күн бұрын

    Hello. Thank you for the great video! I recently bought a 417B and am planning to take it apart and clean decades of grime. I noticed that the cast iron burner assembly has a gasket. Do you know if gaskets from the early 40s had asbestos?

  • @king.coleman
    @king.coleman18 күн бұрын

    Yes, the old gaskets are made of asbestos.

  • @mikemorgan5015
    @mikemorgan501519 күн бұрын

    Kudos to you for leaving in the footage of chowdering that F/A tube up. It happens. And it's a real bummer when it does. I've worked on a ton of Coleman stoves and lanterns. I'm seriously considering screwing an old style valve into some of these schrader valve models. I'll take 1/4 turn to light over these any day.......haha!

  • @Enjoymentboy
    @Enjoymentboy20 күн бұрын

    I got one of these last year after I renewed we had one when I was a kid. I really like these stoves but the only thing I'm not a fan of is the flat base. Makes them a little unable when not on flat surfaces. I also hate to scratch the base up. I managed to find a TPU ring that fits over the base that protects it as well as providing a little grip. Well worth it.

  • @mikafoxx2717
    @mikafoxx271721 күн бұрын

    Love this guy. One of the best performing single burners. Mine started acting up during winter camping so I think it's about time for a rebuild. Also from the island here, and I hate to say I've been using a really nice LED lantern lately for camping.. my red Coleman 80a had a NRV failure which is quite annoying

  • @mackbolan5126
    @mackbolan512621 күн бұрын

    What is a 'NRV' failure?

  • @mikafoxx2717
    @mikafoxx271721 күн бұрын

    @@mackbolan5126 non-return valve. It's in the very bottom of the pump tube and it takes a special tool to unscrew it.

  • @shanewhite2518
    @shanewhite251819 күн бұрын

    What model is your lantern? I’ve never heard of a 80a. Do you mean 200a?

  • @kylongrifle
    @kylongrifle21 күн бұрын

    Great video, thanks. I have two of the 508's(looking for a 505) that use that same generator. Its a shame that it is so hard to find and so expensive when you do. Its a great stove with awesome adjustability.. From a low simmer to jet engine, lol...

  • @patrickhall3878
    @patrickhall387821 күн бұрын

    Perfect timing, I just found a 576 on Friday at a garage sale.. it was rough but with a little work it cleaned up nicely, hello from west texas… thank you Sir.

  • @TonyM540
    @TonyM54022 күн бұрын

    Excellent video and restoration. In UK & Ireland these are seen as a bit exotic and complicated. A testament to your skills and knowledge that you got it working again. Generally in UK and Ireland the Tilley, bialaddin and vapalux are more common. I have one of these in fairly good condition except that the rapid heater keeps going out so I have to either do a soft start or hold a lighter to the rapid heater. I did try starting it with a lower pressure, to no avail. Thanks for sharing this restoration.

  • @Dionisio181
    @Dionisio18128 күн бұрын

    My check valve is leaking air but if i close the pump handle then the air keeps inside. Is it safe if a use it like that? I am not from usa and tried to remove the check valve with all king of tools except a proper tool but is so expensive for me since i am not from US. Thank you!

  • @king.coleman
    @king.coleman27 күн бұрын

    They don't always seal perfectly. If it seals completely with the air stem screwed down it'll be fine.

  • @Dionisio181
    @Dionisio18127 күн бұрын

    @@king.coleman Thank you! You saved my life 🤜🏻🤛🏻

  • @lookup49
    @lookup49Ай бұрын

    You didn't mention anything about the fuel cap or the gasket required on it. Any comments? Is it some kind of rubber or lead?

  • @king.coleman
    @king.colemanАй бұрын

    Sorry for the oversight. The cap gasket is rubber and the size is unique to Akron. Old Coleman Parts sells replacements.

  • @cameronbittner4971
    @cameronbittner4971Ай бұрын

    I see that you turn against the movable jaw when using an adjustable wrench. It's working for you, however ideally you would turn against the fixed jaw as it's stronger. I enjoy your videos. Thanks for making them. Great advice on protecting the brass parts.

  • @Dionisio181
    @Dionisio181Ай бұрын

    How much time the burners works after the last 10-15 pumps with a full tank?

  • @king.coleman
    @king.colemanАй бұрын

    For most models 10-15 stroke of the pump isn't even enough for proper operation.

  • @Dionisio181
    @Dionisio181Ай бұрын

    @@king.coleman How mucho time you can run the stove with a full tank and with the number of Stroke that you recommend?

  • @king.coleman
    @king.colemanАй бұрын

    @@Dionisio181 It varies widely depending on how you use the stove. A tank of fuel will last a lot longer if you're using one burner running at low heat than if you've got both burners running on high.

  • @Dionisio181
    @Dionisio181Ай бұрын

    @@king.coleman Ok, i just want to know to calculate how much fuel i have to carry in an out door activity if i am running the stove with the 2 burners on in high.

  • @king.coleman
    @king.colemanАй бұрын

    @@Dionisio181 There's no simple answer to your question. It all depends on the model, tank size, and how you use the stove. Unless all you intend to do is boil pots of water, I doubt that you'll have both burners running consistently at full blast as that will just burn your food.

  • @peterchinquan8919
    @peterchinquan8919Ай бұрын

    In the state of Victoria, Australia the residential building code used to mandate vents high up on the outside wall of each room. There were usually at least two depending on the room size. Apparently these were to allow for the use of kerosene appliances. After around the 1980s these vents were dropped from new buildings as being no longer necessary.

  • @BrunoB99
    @BrunoB99Ай бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @rodneychaney2809
    @rodneychaney2809Ай бұрын

    Nice complete rebuild. Just picked up a U.S. L228 slant (with the big hat). Helpful runthrough from breakdown and cleaning to light. Thanks for posting. In Maryland USA

  • @OWK000
    @OWK000Ай бұрын

    Is carburator cleaner a no no with brass? Definitely a no no with asbestos, I would think. There is always vinegar and coke a cola with brass.

  • @king.coleman
    @king.colemanАй бұрын

    Carb cleaner is fine to use on brass. The active ingredient is methylene chloride, which won't harm brass. It's worth noting that a lot of carburetors include brass components. I usually use a citric acid solution (similar to white vinegar), but if the carbon is really tenacious and heating and quenching don't work, a soak in carb cleaner is a good option.

  • @ivanarroyo1986
    @ivanarroyo1986Ай бұрын

    What if I don’t have that patina I just want the scratches out ? I just got a new nickle plated 1911 and I want it to look like a mirror

  • @king.coleman
    @king.colemanАй бұрын

    It depends on how badly the plating is scratched. Coleman never made a Model 1911 so I don't know what model you're referring to. You might want to watch my full video on polishing a nickel lantern fount.

  • @RickBlain
    @RickBlainАй бұрын

    Any idea where I can get my hands on a rebuild kit or something for the pump and check valve

  • @king.coleman
    @king.colemanАй бұрын

    No one has sold parts for these in decades. If I recall correctly, the pump leather is the same size as those used by Coleman and if the rubber pip is bad a new one can be easily cut from a piece of viton rubber of cork.

  • @RickBlain
    @RickBlainАй бұрын

    @king.coleman perfect thankyou for the info. Last thing I gotta try and find is a fuel cap gasket or something close

  • @adolfojavierbustamantevega5633
    @adolfojavierbustamantevega5633Ай бұрын

    Nice fettling! Congratulations. Did you replace those two lead washers from the tank? (rapid and valve)

  • @king.coleman
    @king.colemanАй бұрын

    Yes. Everything came in the rebuild kit and was replaced.

  • @Jack_Warner
    @Jack_WarnerАй бұрын

    I used to clean Tilley Lamp, generators with a chemical that I bought for dissolving rust on car parts, but I cannot remember the name of it. I'd soak them overnight, and they would be spotless by the morning.

  • @SouthAlabamaPiper
    @SouthAlabamaPiperАй бұрын

    Awesome stove, great job. Thanks for sharing

  • @outdoorseyfun9842
    @outdoorseyfun9842Ай бұрын

    That is gorgeous. Awesome awesome Stove and awesome job!

  • @michaelhoffman7970
    @michaelhoffman7970Ай бұрын

    For the gasket fire gasket cement or material modified will work

  • @mylennyuym
    @mylennyuymАй бұрын

    Nice job Bill, works great.

  • @w.rustylane5650
    @w.rustylane5650Ай бұрын

    That reminds me of my Coleman I restored with the copper colored cylindrical tank. It is a very early Coleman. I used electrolysis for paint & rust removal before sanding and wire brushing. I had to get a big box of washing soda and used my 4 amp battery charger & prob. took nearly a week to do all the parts once I got it disassembled. I used a 10 gal. plastic kitchen trash can & filled it with 8 gal. water. I had a can of Coleman green auto paint given to me so I thinned it to go through my airbrush and painted it with my airbrush. I used a can of Rust-oleum copper color for the tank. I used a rattle can of high heat silver for the burner assembly. I even masked off the hinges on the wind screen & handle and painted them silver. I also used an etching primer. Cheers from eastern TN

  • @jasonwildebrandt2034
    @jasonwildebrandt2034Ай бұрын

    Absolutely stunning restoration Bill! All the extra effort definitely paid off, It's beautiful❤

  • @ludo9234
    @ludo9234Ай бұрын

    You missed out on the UK lamps, under the name TILLEY.

  • @king.coleman
    @king.colemanАй бұрын

    I'm familiar with them, but they're exceptionally rare around here and when they do turn up, the asking price is always multiple times what Petromax models sell for.

  • @TonyM540
    @TonyM54022 күн бұрын

    @@king.coleman wow

  • @Mike-pr7ev
    @Mike-pr7evАй бұрын

    Did Coleman make a 3 burner stove in Canada?

  • @king.coleman
    @king.colemanАй бұрын

    Yes. The series 5 stoves were made 1961-1965, the 446 series from 1965 to 1975, and the 433 series from 1975 until some point in the 1980s.

  • @mylennyuym
    @mylennyuym2 ай бұрын

    Nice job, as usual, Bill, I always learn something from your interesting and informative vids. Man you live on the edge, rinsing all those small parts in the sink without a sink strainer. Lol!! Thanx for all your efforts, Sam

  • @andreasamigo5613
    @andreasamigo56132 ай бұрын

    Thanks a lot! I was looking for information about the sealing between tank and valve. Thougt i had to overrun after a long time working properly. Love this stove!

  • @happyhome41
    @happyhome412 ай бұрын

    What size graphite packing string did you use ? I see it available in different diameters . . .

  • @king.coleman
    @king.coleman2 ай бұрын

    I can't say for certain. I've never seen it sold in any other sizes and the graphite rope I buy gives no size specification. All I can say is that it's very roughly about 1/8" in diameter. That said, It's not consistently round. Diameter really shouldn't matter. Larger or smaller rope will work just a well as long as it's not so bulky that you can't get it into the valve or inside the nut. When you tighten the nut, the rope is compressed into a neat cylinder regardless of what shape or diameter it started with.

  • @happyhome41
    @happyhome412 ай бұрын

    @@king.coleman I get what you’re saying, and thank you ! Just a quick check of Amazon shows a bunch of different sizes, prompting the question.

  • @JustACentrist
    @JustACentrist2 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @michaelhoffman7970
    @michaelhoffman79702 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the video

  • @frozen6129
    @frozen61292 ай бұрын

    Nice video and lantern, I have a 103 that looks much like the 132 and has the gasoline/ kerosene decal on the fount. Sadly it’s missing the control valve, know anything that fits?

  • @king.coleman
    @king.coleman2 ай бұрын

    Yes, like a Coleman Quicklite, the 103 will run on either gas or kerosene. As far as a compatible valve goes, I have no idea. I didn't make any measurements when I had my 103 in pieces. I think I've seen them with Coleman Quicklite (327 or 427) valves fitted to them and with a Q99 or R55 generator, but may be wrong.

  • @frozen6129
    @frozen61292 ай бұрын

    I have a spare 427 valve stem, I’ll try it thanks. I got a weird Coleman 4H that I have never seen another one like it I’ll send you a picture.

  • @outdoorseyfun9842
    @outdoorseyfun98422 ай бұрын

    Hello Bill, What is the reason for the stress cracks? Why is it common with those AGM and lanterns? What occurred? What mistake did they make with those lanterns? Is it because the brass was not thick enough ?

  • @king.coleman
    @king.coleman2 ай бұрын

    I've been told the most likely reason had to do with the manufacturing process and that whatever AGM was doing resulted in the brass getting work-hardened more than it should have.

  • @outdoorseyfun9842
    @outdoorseyfun98422 ай бұрын

    @@king.coleman ok thank you!

  • @outdoorseyfun9842
    @outdoorseyfun98422 ай бұрын

    Hello Bill, i have a question will a regular heating cup fit the quick lite lanterns,or are they special diameter?

  • @king.coleman
    @king.coleman2 ай бұрын

    Do you mean a preheat cup? There's no "regular" preheat cup. There are several different styles and at least two different diameters for the through hole. The ones that fit an R-55 have a smaller diameter hole (and are smaller all around). The big kerosene preheat cups might fit too loosely, causing them to hang at an angle.

  • @outdoorseyfun9842
    @outdoorseyfun98422 ай бұрын

    @@king.coleman ok thank you.

  • @outdoorseyfun9842
    @outdoorseyfun98422 ай бұрын

    That is the most beautiful collection ever !

  • @RichyRefurbish-xj4hf
    @RichyRefurbish-xj4hf2 ай бұрын

    Great job!! I am so glad that, being the guy you are,finished it and lit 'er up!There are no shelf potatoes or door stops in my house! If you like a crazy guy doing crazy stuff, grab some popcorn and tune into RichyRefurbish on KZread and watch as I refurbish a Coleman #8A iron.Some of my methods are from the funny farm!!

  • @fakenews7266
    @fakenews72662 ай бұрын

    These make great grilled cheese sandwiches 👍

  • @The762x39mm
    @The762x39mm2 ай бұрын

    I need an iron! 😁

  • @SuperGlocker77
    @SuperGlocker772 ай бұрын

    You can interchange the R55 generator with an iron generator. I did it in my iron and noticed no performance difference. Two pumps of air is a good place to start.