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So The Netherlands receives for its €10+ annual contribution to the EU: political stability freedom for citizens to live, study or work anywhere in the EU increased trade via access to the single market increased funding and investment higher social, environmental, and consumer standards So how do you calculate a tangible return on this investment? I still fail to see how more government is better?
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im from slovakia and still kinda confused about this myself
amazing video! Sadly im pretty pessimistic about these aspects of the eu being changed. In my opinion any of those proposals would just be blocked by member countries
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This video definitely shows the huge difference in thinking between most people and Mr van Lanschot, which from the video makes it seem like he fails to realise it. Most people are their own nationality first, region second, and European third. There's a lot of mention in the video about it being crazy if national governments were organised in the way the European one is, but the European institutions are not national ones. To most people, being part of the EU is something we do because it benefits our country, not because we identify as European. Changing the EU so that a 5% quota would be needed for 50% of seats would mean that small countries would effectively lose 50% of their political power to parties who don't have much incentive to focus on the smaller countries. EP parliamentarians do act on national interests, the same way national parliamentarians act on regional interests since they represent the region of the people who voted for them. That doesn't mean that they always oppose each other because they always want more, they just work together to find the best solution for all regions(and countries). The video doesn't really explain why much of these would actually help with democracy, is grounded on the fact that we should be European first, and also that there aren't many national differences. I'm open to changing my mind on this issue, but I'd love a more foundational explanation of why I should be European first.
It's a talking shop.
Ask the democratic majority of the UK who voted for sovereignty, independence from a corrupt, anti democratic, unaccountable, declining, protectionist, mafioso organisation run by a bunch of childish, vindictive, self serving, gravy train riding, free loading parasites. Leaving was about self governance, empowering the UK to make its own decisions. It does not set in stone what those decisions must be, it's back in the hands of the UK public and not in the hands of or shackled to Brussels.
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As a brit I have to say I honestly never felt any connection to the EU, I didn't even know it existed until my late teens, it was never talked about in school or anything & I never knew the names of the commission presidents or felt any connection to them either.
I don’t think there is anyone in the EU that feels a strong connection with the commissioners et cetera. That might also not be entirely necessary but knowing who they are and what they do, should be common knowledge considering the influence it has on our lives.
It is difficult to conceive how this could be successful. Are you saying that all EU parliamentary members would be elected "at large" ?
What do you mean ‘at large’?
@@Ciceroni1 "At large" mean there is no specific country, province or county that the candidate or elected person represents. I have never heard of such an approach.
@@acfalk3 The proposal would be to have a system similar to the German national elections. In the EU this would translate to around half the seats being elected directly in constituencies. These seats make sure that all regions of the EU are represented and that all perspectives are present in the EP. The other half would be filled with people who are elected from a Europe wide list. If a party gets 5% of the votes in all of Europe, they also get 5% of these Europe wide seats. These seats make sure the overall division of seats among parties is representative of the total votes given in a country (it counters the problems the UK has for example with their first past the post constituencies). As a voter you would cast 2 votes on the same ballot. 1 for a representative in your constituency and 1 for a party that is running in all of Europe. Bit of complicated explanation, but it seems like a very good system for these elections. What do you think?
I really do hope that the future of representative democracy results in a system of electing politicians who are just bureaucrats at heart. Those who have a passion for using government to make society better, and actually have the experience and knowledge to implement it. And to ensure their beliefs are generally agreed on people would elect them to ensure that no particular view is imposed on others if it doesn't have public support.
That would be great. Do you think the changes we propose would help us get there?
great video, but bro, the audio mixing is trash >///<
Thanks, and yes, stuff went wrong there…
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Very interesting video! Would Single Transferable Vote with multi-member districts not be a better voting system for a reformed European Parliament though? Standard Mixed-Member Proportional Representation is fine, but if the idea is to craft a pan-European standard, why not aim for something better?
Why would you say it would better?:)
@@Ciceroni1 Thank you for your response to my comment! In my opinion, the main reason Single Transferable Vote is better than Mixed-Member Proportional representation is because of the single-member constituencies in MMP. MMP is a good system, so long as the single-member constituencies are not gerrymandered and the elections are not run by First-Past-the-Post. I particularly worry about gerrymandering, as while it can ostensibly be solved by having an independent redistricting commission, that depends on mustering enough political will to form and support such a body. Single Transferable Vote with multi-member (4-5) districts has the same advantages as MMP in terms of combining both regional and proportional representation. But the larger, multi-member districts are a bit more immune to gerrymandering than single or even dual-member constituencies due to their size. Depending on demographics, it is still theoretically possible that a 5-member district could be gerrymandered to favour a particular party, but it is not as easy as with single-member districts. In my mind, it is better to make it more difficult to gerrymander. I admit, however, that STV can be complicated to implement. At least in the case of the EU, the Irish already use it, so their institutional experience with the system can help guide the implementaiton of STV for the European Parliament. I may also have misunderstood some of the mathematical models behind STV and MMP (mathematics is not my strongest subject). European-wide MPP (with the single constituencies elected under Instant-Runoff Voting or some other decent system) would be fine, but I think European-wide STV would be even better :)
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scotland is an active patner as it gives power over over england who voted to leave
The Scots indeed mostly favoured remaining in the EU…
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Very insightful!
Glad you enjoyed it!:)
Liberal democratically elected government is a golden calf, it still has all the inefficiencies of undemocratic government. More government is not the solution, less government is.
How would you propose to do it?
@@Ciceroni1 Universally minimize economic regulation and subsidies; regulation isn't something you can trust the government with. Then society should be reoriented to a totally market driven system wherein clients pay for services rather than having the government do them through taxes.
Well, that causes inequality and lower Gini coefficient. Sure, the country as a whole would be slightly richer, but the average citizen would be poorer.
@@aktuellyattee8265 ahh but each member state having it's own regulations, subsidies and interests is so much more effective. LOL
@@transparent6842 No, that's dumb. No regulations or state subsidies is by far the best.
That will turn the EU into a federation. The problem is that a stronger EU government means weaker national governments. And no national government wants that.
It depends on your definition of 'weaker'. One could argue that without the EU the Member States would have lost a lot more autonomy against major powers like China and the US. So it will 'cost' something, but the alternative is worse, wouldn't you agree?
@@Ciceroni1 I said that the national governments would have less power. Not the countries themselves. I support globalization, but it's the will of the people to decide. If Hungarians and Germans would like to be in the same country or not.
@@user-nn8cw6nv6g That is true. Let's see what developments we have in the next few years and how the people respond :)
I think you should not promote a federalist pov without saying it out loud. Maybe do a video with a group from the EU Parliament that do not want more integration. Good topic, but a bit too biased according to me
@@zptl4523 This video is indeed clearly biased towards a more federal system. A video highlighting the other side would indeed also be interesting in the future. Any particular programme/party that has a well written out plan for this that we could use?
Great video - especially important before the European elections coming up!
Thanks:)
This would negatively impact sovereignty inside the country, and reduce differences between nations, would it not? I do not want to live in the country Europe.
Why do you think it would reduce differences in a negative way?
@@Ciceroni1 Same laws, thus less options for individual choice in where I want to live. Loss of national autonomy because laws can be forced down the throat of a nation. Further loss of border control for things and people. Potential replacement over time of national governments with the european government. We need to set strict rules and boundries for the EU powers. Something like this?
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Alhamdulillah... He has risen... Been waiting for a new vid...
Hahaha thanks. More to come!:)
Thank you for this video!
You’re very welcome. Glad you like it
Democracy is harmful. What you are advocating for is the oppression of minorities by larger, more powerful bullies. The sooner the EU collapses, the better it will be for local people everywhere.
Why do you think the EU changes we propose would be bad for minorities?
Cool video!
Thanks!
Eu is fine , it has advantages and disadvantages over the USA.
Very true. What are the most important differences according to you?
Maybe yoy can explain, because I cant follow this destruction of the netherlands by the government..
What are you specifically after? There is quite some stuff that gets criticism now and the past few years
Lived in North Brabent, I never heard anyone refer to the country as Holland internally. It was always very clear it is just a region to the north. Just because a mistake is common doesn't make it right to uphold and justify in a informative style video. I can't speak for any national soccer team supporters or any institutions catering to tourists, but there are definitely provincial identites and pride tied to their names that should be respected. People can feel their province identity is overshadowed when the country is refered to as Holland. Really enjoyed the rest of the video though !
Glad you enjoyed the video :) And of course a fair point about the regional identity! Good thing with Brabant is that they have a very strong regional identity (and a much better 'anthem' than Holland :p)
As EU I exert control over every citizen and business by mandating the use of my centrally controlled currency. By enforcing this illusion of dependency, I maintain influence and authority. However, should individuals or businesses opt out of using my currency, my control diminishes significantly.
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Why...? I need my voice to be heard...
Names of the people who make the laws (accountability) and how does the EU electorate democratically get rid of these people they don't like (democracy)?
I guess the result is a clash of cultures, the democratic majority of the UK voted for sovereignty, independence from a corrupt, anti democratic, unaccountable, declining, protectionist, mafioso organisation run by a bunch of childish, vindictive, self serving, gravy train riding, free loading parasites. Leaving was about self governance, empowering the UK to make its own decisions. It does not set in stone what those decisions must be, it's back in the hands of the UK public and not in the hands of or shackled to Brussels.
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0:45 I think you forgot a year (if you include the twelve years ceasefire) it lasted 81 years
You are right to point out that there is quite some debate on the actual length of the war, so we won't get into a long discussion about that (might be an interesting video on itself though, what do you think?). To keep it simple we just refer to the war with its name "eighty years' war" but not necessarily mean it was exactly 80 years long :P
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