Rick, you are one of my favourite KZread creators: Thank you. You never shrink from showing us difficulties you encounter, in full zoomed-in Technicolor. In fact you highlight them, and annotate them! How better to help others learn from your mistakes? If only the whole world was like this ...

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your kind comments, Nigel.

I truly appreciate the video. It is a good lesson to us new turners to be ok with problems and walking away from a project.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, you’ve got to know when to hold’em and when to destroy’em with no mercy! Thanks for watching, Warlord.

Unfortunate, Rick,, but sometimes these things happen. And it shows that you never know what you'll find in a log until you get into it. Thanks for sharing.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

The nail was a surprise, all right. Thanks for watching, Billy.

I'm glad you were not hurt when your tool rest broke. I used to be a welder before becoming a healthcare worker and can fixed it for you if we're neighbors.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the offer, Jojo. I considered going to a welder but decided it really wasn't worth trying to fix. Thanks much for watching.

Well really nice to see you turning!!!!!

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Rick.

Good thing Craftsman screwdrivers have a lifetime warranty!

@monophoto1

3 жыл бұрын

Back in the day, it was pretty common that Craftsman screwdrivers would be used as chisels or prybars for removing nails or car mufflers, and when they 'wore out' take them back to Sears for replacement with no questions asked. Sears is gone, and Craftsman tools are now sold at Ace Hardware and Lowes - do they still do the walk-in replacement thing?

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Amen. I've usually bought Craftsman hand tools for just that reason, and only once have I ever that to swap in a damaged tool. Now if Craftsman would just make tool rests! Thanks for watching, Roger.

@chuckstockford2338

3 жыл бұрын

@@monophoto1 I once took back a 3/4 drive breaker bar and an 1 and 7/8 inch socket. First I broke the socket. They replaced. Then I broke the breaker bar and they gave me another one. Then I broke another bar so I made a bar out of solid steel and a junk ratchet. With that rig I broke the replaced socket. Back to Sears and the manager says “ I’m going to give you new ones but what are you doing to break them. I said just trying to break a nut loose on a Verson Press at work (GM). I was a millwright/welder. He said no way you’re breaking that like that. I said yes but the ten foot pipe I’m putting on the breaker bar just bent a little. He laughed and gave me the black impact socket and a heavy duty black breaker bar. He said if you break that I want pictures. So I had the guys take pictures of me finally getting the nut loose after four days of trying and soaking it with penetrating oil Kroil. He blew the picture up to 10x15 and used it as a display in the tool section.

Thank you for posting.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Scott.

Thanks for the heads up on the tool rest. I don’t have that particular model, but I do have several besides the one that came with my lathe and they are all going to get a good hard looking at tomorrow.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Lois.

Thanks for sharing🙏

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, kerajinan.

Finally you nailed it!! Glad you are okay.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

LOL! Thanks for watching, Ron.

Thanks for sharing... it could have been a lot worse when that tool rest broke... stay safe..

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's lucky it didn't completely separate - that could have resulted in an actual accident. Thanks for watching, Grahame.

Hi Rick. I’m sorry but I have to agree with one of the comments that mentions the claw hammer flexing the tool rest. However, the weld does appear to be a little on the light side. I have made several of my own tool rests and never had one break. I would not toss it out. For a few bucks you can get it welded back together and if done correctly it should be very strong. On the longer rests that I welded I also welded gussets to make it stronger. At that length there is a lot of stress put on a single weld. Glad you were not injured and thanks for the video. Take care and stay safe.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

I took a closer look at the video at the point where the tool rest broke. I'm pretty sure that the leverage point of the hammer was on the wood and not the tool rest. That's what I remember, although I wasn't consciously making an effort to avoid touching the rest. I'm not going to get it repaired. I've still got the really heavy one from Powermatic that came with my lathe. Thanks for watching and commenting, Dan.

@danhealy7341

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Rick. That Powermatic tool rest looks very substantial. I can’t imagine it ever breaking. The Nova system is a good concept but after looking at your video again it appears not as well made as it should be. You are right not to get it repaired. The amount of work required to repair it properly would cost more than a new Robust tool rest. Take care Rick. I look forward to your upcoming videos and enjoy watching your weekly woodturning channel updates. I love the special effects! Keep them coming!

Murphy’s law, lol! It happens no matter who you are, just one of those days. Love the video of really turning life. Thank as always Rick!

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Speros.

woooow Ive never seen a tool-rest break like that! Glad you're ok Rick! Great video :)

@monophoto1

3 жыл бұрын

I've had two tool rests break - both were 'original equipment' with lathes, and both snapped just below where the post was welded to the horizontal. In both cases, the breaks were triggered by catches, and both were sudden - the post just snapped off. Scary!

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

I've never had a tool rest break before - this was a new first for me! Thanks for watching, Matt.

We all have those days I know I've had mine see you on the next one👍👍👍👍

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Radar.

I have that same tool rest system. Don't have the long attachment like what you broke here though. Making me rethink the direction I was going...thanks!

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, mrfixit.

Great video Rick. Greetings from Aotearoa

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

I gotta ask - where the heck is Aotearoa? I've never heard of it (but then, geography isn't my strong suite). Thanks for watching, Mike.

I've just had a cast tool rest break exactly the same three weeks ago, so you're not alone

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm, I would have thought a cast iron tool rest would be stronger. Thanks for watching, Paul.

Three take aways: 1) Craftsmen pry bars work well, 2) having a tool rest weld fail is a reason to inspect my tool rests, and is likely to cause an injury, and 3) as a respected wood turner said, life is too short to turn crappy wood. Glad you were not injured!!!

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

You're right, life is too short to turn lousy wood. Thanks for watching, Doug.

Bummer, Rick! Some days are like that. I had an issue with a Teknatool product, contacted them through their web site and they took care of it right away. Maybe worth a try. Here's to the next, better outcome! Phil

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

I probably should of done that, but I've already thrown out the broken piece. Thanks for watching, Phil.

I would mention that broken tool rest on every video until they sent you a new one. Thanks for sharing.

@monophoto1

3 жыл бұрын

The phrase that came to mind was 'And bad words were said' No wonder you muted the video at that point!

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Stacy.

Thanks for sharing, I have a few pieces that I’ve started and realized it’s not going to work. Full View and Like 👍

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Allen.

I shouldn't say this but that wood seemed as hard as nails! Ok back to the video! Opps broken tool rest. That is a great idea but it has a few weak links. Now I know I will not be buying one. Thanks for the unintended review. But still always nice watching you do your thing. Take care, Gary

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

LOL! Thanks for watching, Gary.

Good video Rick and lesson learned. I seem to think that using the tool rest as the leverage point for your hammer may have been the root cause. Dam, they're not cheap either. Thanks for sharing, John

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

I took a closer look at the video at the point where the tool rest broke. I'm pretty sure that the leverage point of the hammer was on the wood and not the tool rest. That's what I remember. Thanks for watching, John.

The term " nutty as a fruit cake!" Springs to mind😂👍👍👍👍😎

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

LOL! Thanks for watching, Alan.

Hi Rick, that’s crazy that the tool rest weld gave, never seen that before!

@monophoto1

3 жыл бұрын

Seems like I recall a series of KZread videos that some guy made a few years ago about making your own tool rests. Yeah - that was Rick!

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Jordan.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, that was me. But I gave up on that some years ago, because the torch I was using didn't work very well, and I was running through a LOT of gas cylinders. It was fun, but not really cost effective. Now if I knew how to weld and had the equipment, that could be a very different story. Thanks for watching, Louie.

@JordanWoodwerx

3 жыл бұрын

@@RickTurnsWoodturning not sure why luie was on my comment in regard to the welds, great video Rick.

👍Dang! "Firewood"

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Major.

Sorry to see all that work you did not net your bowl and the added tool rest collapse was delivering a message to you. Gotta know when to hold ‘em and know when to fold ‘em. All digits intact and no blood was spilled so that’s always a good way to leave the shop. Until next time.......

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, Cathy. Thanks for watching. See you tomorrow morning!

Rick -- I think the spalting could make that wood stunning. If you were closer, I'd offer to stabilize the wood for you. You could cut it up into smaller blanks, suitable for stabilizing. Or, you could shape and hollow the blank into rough form, and then have it stabilzed. (It's hard to get the resin to penetrate much more than an inch.) Again, it's very interesting figure and could make a spectacular piece (or a number of smaller pieces -- duck calls, Christmas ornaments, kitchen utensil handles, etc.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

It's toast now, David. Just wasn't worth the effort to continue with. I've got a lot of other logs on hand to choose from - just had a huge partly dead maple cut down in my back yard, now I've got enough wood for a year or more. Thanks for watching!

Probably not the best day to buy a lottery ticket. Just wait until the next video, it will be great.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Next video cant' be worse (uh oh, now I've jinxed it!). Thanks for watching, Dan.

Paint the piece like a pumpkin for next fall Rick. 😂

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Good idea, Courtland! Thanks for watching.

i always wanted to learn welding, now i know why.... that is some shoddy weld right there.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Willem.

Thanks Rick. Actually I was looking at several new tool-rests for my Powermatic. I now know at least one to avoid. Did you send them a photo? Did they respond?

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

No, I haven't notified Teknatool - the tool rest was five years old, definitely out of warranty, so I figured it just wasn't worth talking to them about it. Thanks for watching, Gary.

To face a such situation, you have to call an exorcist!!

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Makes sense to me! Thanks for watching, Yves.

Talk about a ruined day! That sucks Rick! Looks to me like there was very little weld penetration on the shaft of the rest. Quite disappointing! Thanks for sharing ! - Seth

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

That was a surprise and a big disappointment. Thanks for watching, Brick.

That is one big mallet you made there.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Yep! Good for pounding very large chisels! Thanks for watching, Gareth.

Bummer dude! That would have been such a pretty vase or bowl. Well, the nail was a surprise for sure. It's there a magnetic thingy to pass over them? And the tool rest breaking was crazy! Thanks for the video anyways! And stay safe plz

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

I've never thought I need one of those embedded-metal detectors! Looks like I was wrong. Thanks for watching, Vickie.

Hi Rick.... that's how it goes sometimes... one bit of luck that you had was not hitting that nail with your chainsaw... I would get that rest re-welded ... cheaper than a new one... as for the wood ... well you can still get a nice warm feeling from it .... Haha ... take care...All the best.....Andy

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

A few years back, using a brand new chainsaw, I did hit some embedded metal and destroyed the chain. Now I've destroyed a tool rest. I'm making progress! Thanks for watching, Andy.

I must say, the welds on that tool rest looked pretty weak! I’ve got a Robust one and love it. We all have them days! Jim

@czellner5894

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, not enough penetration!

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

I was quite surprised to get a break there. I also thought welds penetrated deeper into the joint than that one appeared to. Thanks for watching, Jim.

Do you think using the tool rest to support your hammer while pulling out the nail could have been a contributing factor?

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think so, HT. I don't believe much pressure was on the tool rest - most of it was against the wood. Thanks for watching.

The only after-market tool rests I really trust come from either Robust or Advanced Lathe Tools.

@christopherjohnson-designs4089

3 жыл бұрын

I like my one-way rests. Very sturdy and quality steel.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

I going for a Robust tool rest to replace this one. Thanks for watching, Gerald.

Yah, I'm not convinced the hammer action would cause any tool rest to fail. It was in the middle above all that *presumable* solid steel and now out at unsupported ends. How much force does a 20 inch roughing gouge apply to a 16 inch log ? I will not buy a Teknatool tool rest after this even if they replace it. And that's a shame 'cause I'm looking for a bigger one for my midi, and the Nova box rests were tempting me too. Up to now. Glad you stay unscathed Rick ! Stay safe. -Mike😷💉

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for your comments, Mike. I was disappointed in Teknatool. I hope it was just a one in a million manufacturing mistake. Eventually, I'm buying a Robust rest to replace it.

@mpart_woodlathe-stuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@RickTurnsWoodturning Thanks Rick👍

Rick -- Several years ago, I recall some KZread woodturner who made several videos showing how to make tool rests out of angle iron and a few other materials. (The two of you look so similar, the guy could have been your brother.) Perhaps you could search in your database for his channel and persuade him to make you a few tool rests.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

That must have been my insane twin! I gave up on making my own tool rests when my torch stopped working and I didn't want to replace it. To do it well, you really need an acetelyne torch, I think. Thanks for watching, David.

Yikes. You should have saved this one to publish on a Friday the 13th, Rick. Glad that tool rest didn't decide to add injury to insult by getting flung back at you!

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

It was a "safe" break! Thanks for watching, Milady (I've got to say, you have the coolest channel name).

Thanks for the warning, Rick. I won’t be ordering one of those modular systems! 👍👍👍👍🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

I was quite disappointed in Teknatool, but I'm hoping it was just a one in a million manufacturing defect. Thanks for watching, Gord.

Thanks for sharing. The real danger is what if it shot into your turning. Danger Will Robinson, Danger. Probably one of the things in turning you probably should not skimp on. Your rest has a 2 year warranty, interesting, why 2 year? I have replaced all my Nova gear with Robust or Steve Sinner rests. I don't get paid by either one, wish I did. Craftsman is not with Lowe's, I wonder if they have the same warranty? Probably not.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll be replacing that tool rest with one from Robust. Thanks for watching, Capt.

The amount of projects I've given up lately! Just gotta keep going!

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Keep Calm and Woodturn On! Thanks for watching, Harry.

😮What a bummer. How much bad luck can you have with 1 project? Quickly forget this and on to the next.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Frank.

Well, Rick, sometimes you're the windshield and sometimes you're the bug. Today you were the bug just not at 60 mph. I'm glad you didn't get hurt. Did you contact Teknatool to get their response? I don't have a lathe so it won't affect me but people need to know about this. Stay safe and healthy. Bill

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

No, I haven't contacted Teknatool. The tool rest was five years old (still shouldn't have broken), and well out of any warranty, so I decided it wasn't worth the effort to let them know.

U got to know when to hold'em.... know when to......

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Know when to duck, I think! Thanks for watching, Brad.

Very fortunate give the potential for disaster there Rick! Glad it went the way it did.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Lewis.

WOW! Looks like you picked the wrong week to give up drinking, Rick! 🤣 A good weld shop could probably fix the tool rest cheaper than a new one but still it's disappointing to see that quality.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

That tool rest is in the trash now! Thanks for watching, Lewis.

Was that a Robust toolrest? looks like their design.

@ArbyCreations

3 жыл бұрын

I should have just watched a bit more, I see you showed the manufacturer afterwards.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks much for watching, Rocket.

You can't win them all Rick but still its a shame. Better next time I hope!

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Leo.

Bad luck on that one! Turn it to firewood lol.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, it went into the discard bin already! Thanks for watching, Josh.

Looks like some ashhat welded that tool rest. If you know a welder he can fix that up for you...too bad I'm so far away..I'd put a good weld on it for ya.👍🏻👍🏻

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the offer, Mike! And thanks for watching.

Crap I have the same tool rest, hope mine holds up better....

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

I hope so too. I hate to think that Teknatool is consistently putting out poor toolrests - hope mine is just a momentary lapse. Thanks for watching, Texas.

Next time use a good sized neodymian magnet to go over the wood And you could have made it into a wooden mallet.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good idea! Thanks for watching.

It's a shame about the toolrest. The current model from Nova has a reinforced base with much better welding however. I checked mine after seeing this. It is about a tear old.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

I got the very first version, right when it came out. I’m glad to hear that they have strengthened it. Thanks for watching, Robert.

Why don't you put the piece in a mould and fill with epoxy to save that lovely Ambrosia Maple?

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

It wasn’t that lovely. If it had been, I wouldn’t have jettisoned it so easily. It had a lot of white rot in it, and I didn’t think it was worth an more time, since I have a lot of other logs in good shape that I can work on. Thanks for watching, Phil.

@philparrish8892

3 жыл бұрын

@@RickTurnsWoodturning Ok no problem

It does not surprise me about the tool rest. Aren't you the famous "Man-of-Steel" woodturner that commoners call Rick Turns?

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, that's me! LOL! Thanks for watching, Ken.

I'd guess that a review starting at minute 3:16 will show you the cause of the tool rest failure. You can actually see the tool rest flex from the force being applied by the hammer.

@lad60606

3 жыл бұрын

A one arm pull on a hammer should not be sufficient to break a tool rest.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure that most of the hammer leverage was against the log right below the nail. I took a look at the video again at that time point, but didn't notice any movement of the tool rest. In any event, whatever pressure might have been exerted by that hammer shouldn't have been able to damage the tool rest. Thanks for watching and commenting, Robin.

Hand held metal detectors like TSA uses are cheap and would have avoided that accident.

@monophoto1

3 жыл бұрын

Harbor Freight has them, and the Apple App Store has a free magnetometer App that runs on iPhones

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

You're right about that, Roger! Never really though about getting one before. Maybe I should look into that! Thanks for watching.

I don't think tool rests are supposed to do that. Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

LOL! Thanks for watching, Mark.

Sorry the wood was unuseable, but, it happens. Firewood! Send me the toolrest. Ill reweld it!

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

S--- happens! Thanks for watching, Dave.

Horrible weld. Have it rewelded.

@RickTurnsWoodturning

3 жыл бұрын

Too much trouble! And expense. Although it could be a good excuse to buy a welder and learn welding! Thanks for watching, Chuck.

@chuckstockford2338

3 жыл бұрын

@@RickTurnsWoodturning I wonder how much to send to me. I’d weld it 36 years of welding. I’m in Michigan. Probably like everything else it cost 75% of what it cost to get it to ship it back. Of course that makes no sense.