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  • @byronsmothers8064
    @byronsmothers80642 жыл бұрын

    Player: loses character, has to make a new one at a lower level Other player: loses character, brought back with perks Yeah, that's not favoritism at all!

  • @ZorotheGallade

    @ZorotheGallade

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also DM: "Now kill her. Just kidding, you can't, deus ex machina kills you instantly instead."

  • @Lvxintene8ris

    @Lvxintene8ris

    2 жыл бұрын

    It happened to me in a campaign I played and left. "That guy" friend of the DM gets killed after betraying the party and is brought back with no ritual and with lots of new perks and cool stuff, with no penalty for betraying the party. Familiar of the DM's girlfriend is killed by their own owner after the latter is possessed by a foe, is brought back from death immediately by a super-powerful NPC. Then my character gets killed in the same dungeon by a possessed PC and no, I need to have the ritual performed, lots of money and I also have a level removed because "ritual didn't go well" (resurrection was following some sort of bullsh*t homebrewed rule I don't even remember anymore).

  • @MrCrunchytime
    @MrCrunchytime2 жыл бұрын

    "She smiled and bit her lip while her husband just nodded approvingly at me." *Inhales deeply and exhales, closes books and DMs screen and stands up* Thanks for having me over, it's been a lovely time. Let's never do this again, shall we?

  • @curtisfranzen986

    @curtisfranzen986

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am 46 seconds into this this and I'm already getting "creepy" vibes.

  • @TheNormExperience

    @TheNormExperience

    2 жыл бұрын

    Seriously! And with a former student??? Ugh

  • @jamiekamihachi3135

    @jamiekamihachi3135

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNormExperience That somehow makes this seem even more inappropriate. It’s just creepy to involve someone you used to be in a position of authority over in your sexual fetishes.

  • @eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653

    @eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jamiekamihachi3135 What if he was paid for that?. Poor dude probably was given some cash and had to endure those creeps fantasy.

  • @AuntLoopy123

    @AuntLoopy123

    2 жыл бұрын

    That sort of thing is perfectly acceptable, IF: 1) everyone involved is an adult, 2) everyone involved was fully informed IN ADVANCE that this was the sort of play they were going to do, and 3) everyone involved CONSENTED TO IT, when they found out what sort of play was planned for that session. Lots of people do erotic role-play in TTRPGs, but you MUST get full, informed consent, from ADULTS. As long as you have full, informed consent from adults, including EVERYONE involved, even on the fringes, then you do you. I won't kink shame. But I'll jolly well sexual-coercion shame! The only time I won't shame sexual-coercion is when everyone involved consented to coercion, which is a weird thing I read about, called "consensual non-consent," which sounds weird, but I think "rape fantasy," just about covers it. If that's your fantasy, and you, as an adult, knowingly consent to it, and everyone involved, even on the fringes, is ALSO an adult who knowingly consents, then fantasize away, even if your fantasy is, "I lie there, perfectly still, bound and helpless, while other people do things to my paralyzed body." I mean, OK, whatever. But consent is key! I wish more people would realize that. When I was 17, a couple of guys told me that I had NO RIGHT to refuse. But if I can't refuse, then my consent is meaningless, and even with me saying, "Oh, yes! Yes! More!" it's just another rape. CONSENT!!! And frankly, respecting my right to consent is THE SEXIEST THING I CAN IMAGINE. Nothing is sexier to me than seeing someone respect my right to consent. "Oh, you don't want to? OK." "Really? You'll accept my refusal?" "Yeah. Of course I accept your refusal." "I am SO aroused by you right now." It may seem counter-intuitive, but there it is. Consent matters that much.

  • @SamWeltzin
    @SamWeltzin2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, anyone who would blame the OP of that last story doesn't understand why it's bad for an adult to engage in sexual anything with an underaged person in the first place. Even if OP weren't clueless but just felt uncomfortable getting into any confrontation, it's because of the de facto power dynamics between an adult and a child. I'm hoping no one actually does do what you predicted, 'cuz if they do they're either an idiot at best or malicious at worst.

  • @gmbryant746

    @gmbryant746

    2 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't have said it better. That was straight up grooming

  • @jillianh7565

    @jillianh7565

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can relate to the last story mentioned. Recently I joined an online Ravenloft community. Most of the people on the server were nice but one thing led to another with one of the guys in the group. As a curious player who wants to RP her character, I suggested a text RP session between the group members. One guy said that he would RP an interaction between my character, a half elf cleric noblewoman, and Count Strahd Von Zarovich. The first text RP went well and there was nothing outwardly creepy about this guy. In fact, I had a lot of fun. However, a few days later he somehow found my personal information and started sexualizing and stalking me both in character and online. Keep in mind that I started having nightmares about Ravenloft as a result of this creepiness. At this point I set boundaries for what I wanted from these RP sessions and our online interactions. Eventually his creepiness bled over to the group chat and it started a huge argument. This guy tried to play things off like he was "playing as Strahd" even though I hadn't consented to or been aware of this "RP session". Eventually I exposed his creepiness to the group and blocked him on Facebook and Discord.

  • @SamWeltzin

    @SamWeltzin

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jillianh7565 Jesus. Sorry to hear that happened to you, and I'm glad you could nip that right in the bud. It's shocking how many people out there have zero understanding of boundaries, or if they do, disregard them.

  • @jillianh7565

    @jillianh7565

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SamWeltzin This happened just over the weekend. I am an adult and personally ok with seduction and mature content, but only in character! Like I know Strahd is supposed to be creepy and perverted but being an "out of game Strahd" is different than playing a character.

  • @SamWeltzin

    @SamWeltzin

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jillianh7565 Oh, so it's recent even. Yikes. But yeah, that's the kind of thing that communication is about prior to the roleplay, and in no case should it ever bleed into real-life interactions. Even if it weren't done in a perverted and creepy way, roleplaying a character at a real person is cringe as hell.

  • @peterquynce4343
    @peterquynce43432 жыл бұрын

    That last story... no, it is absolutely not the 14 year old player's fault. This is why we have to have laws about age of consent, because it's very clear that this individual has no interest in this role play of a creepy, abusive relationship, but is so easily manipulated by an adult. Even older people can fall prey to this kind of emotional manipulation-- it's awful to know that my favorite hobby harbors people like this.

  • @midnights2631

    @midnights2631

    8 ай бұрын

    I feel so terrible for them, I've been manipulated to roleplay stuff I didn't want to when I was teenager and very naive. I just wanted to hug OP because I felt so bad for them. Thankfully I roleplay with better people and I know a lot better but hearing other people through with it breaks my heart.

  • @xionkuriyama5697
    @xionkuriyama56972 жыл бұрын

    Story One: Say it with me: I don't care what your kink is, I just don't want it at my public gaming table~! Story Two: Ohp, the player came up with something cooler than the DM did? Can't have that! Story Three: What's funny here is that the WERE letting her play her character despite the issues it caused. but the moment there's consequences for your actions i guess it's railroading--relatable feeling, but not an accurate one lol Story Four: As someone who's seen these things go down, this was all terrifyingly familiar. People like this are all the same.

  • @gelbadayah.sneach579
    @gelbadayah.sneach5792 жыл бұрын

    Matt/Ignis in story 4 sounds terrifying. I've always believed that people reveal things about themselves and their desires when they role play, and this is clearly no exception.

  • @TheTruthx58

    @TheTruthx58

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh no...I like toppling Authoritarian Regimes...

  • @realrealwarpet

    @realrealwarpet

    Жыл бұрын

    The fact i only have sadist characters and no masochists has me concerned XD

  • @kaitlyncramp3100
    @kaitlyncramp31002 жыл бұрын

    -Wants to date OPs character without discussing out of game *warning lights buzz but not on* -Wants to rp out of session *warning lights flicker on* -Wants dm to leave during this *internal sirens in distance* -Wants R rated adult fun time scenes *internal Sirens wail, lights flashing, and cop pounding on door* I appreciate you censoring his texts for us and pointing out the perceived power difference for the OP. They were obviously uncomfortable but its hard to say no when you are in the situation sometimes and some things you learn with age. Hindsight is 2020 and what not. Im glad it didn't cross into the real world but that- I'm sure- was still upsetting and I'm glad OP is safe.

  • @PaladinGear15
    @PaladinGear152 жыл бұрын

    Ah, being killed instantly by a random spawning NPC who cheesed the rules, same thing happened to my old fighter. An Incubus appears, touches me, the DM instantly says my character's now under orders to not defend myself in any way, so he gets 4 automatic crits on me bringing my health from about 90HP to like 4HP because I'm not defending myself, as many of you may know it doesn't work like that at all, but whatever. I decided "oh fuck this I'm gonna die but I'm not letting this demon take away my character's soul" which the DM decided all fiends could do when they killed someone, so I decided to use the words of the incubus to my favor "I had to not defend myself" so I teleport myself above a spike pit and let myself fall to my death as a reaction to taking damage, that way I wasn't defending myself; I was killing myself, quite the opposite of defending myself, but then the DM says the incubus flies into the pit, catches my character in midair and tears me in half in my fullplate (with his 8 strength) Such nonsense x_x

  • @theRealSlimGordon

    @theRealSlimGordon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dude wtf was that bullshit? Hope you got a new DM/group after that.

  • @PaladinGear15

    @PaladinGear15

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@theRealSlimGordon Yeah man this was quite some time ago now, I'm in a cool new group now :p You'd think that guy was kicking me out of the campaign, but he wasn't.

  • @fleshdadbot6852

    @fleshdadbot6852

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why did he do it?????

  • @starbird3939
    @starbird39392 жыл бұрын

    I’m Not Reading That DM’s and Admins, it is important to moderate your games and chat rooms to weed out these sorta of creeps. Kids are still trying to socially develop and often not know how to deal with child groomers, pedos and abusers. You need to also make sure your space is safe so that these kids can come up to you and ask if they are experiencing something bad. As for the kids, no adult should be asking your for sexual or romantic favors, at all. Sure, DND is a game about imagination-but no adult should be coning up to you in private to rp romantic and especially sexual scenes behind the DM’s and players’ backs. If they do, block them and report them-and tell your DM what happened. If your DM and players don’t have your back, then bolt. This is very bad DnD and NOT worth it. Additionally, although glossed over, anyone who says they will hurt themselves if you don’t give them attention or interact with other people is a bad partner. This is emotional manipulation. If someone, in ro or real life, engages in this behavior than PLEASE leave them. These are usually just bluffs to entrap you and can easily be called out by a welfare check from a police or suicide watch. And finally, remember that the word “No” is a complete sentence that can be used ANYTIME. If you feel at all unconfortable, say No and see how the other person reacts. If they leave you alone, that person is good. If they keep bugging you, keep asking you, or start bullying you for ysing the word-then they are a bad person and should be avoided. And this advice applies to adults too. Because even as adults, we can be vulnerable. Stay safe, DND Buddies! May your dice be blessed and your sessions be fun!

  • @aurora5481
    @aurora54812 жыл бұрын

    Big props for those last few moments, dude. Important things to bring up, especially since it can be really difficult for underage players to find resources and advice that's not just "if you can't take it, don't play". TTRPGs, by their nature, are susceptible for power inbalances (age, experience, money, resources, PC treatment) that can be leveraged against people with trouble socialising, especially teenagers, and it's important to acknowledge that sometimes.

  • @davidspring4003
    @davidspring40032 жыл бұрын

    Unless you're in something ment to be erp, if saying no to a relationship would derail the campaign, that campaign deserves to be derailed. Edit: to be clear, I'm not victim blaming. More hoping to advise future players if this ever comes up. Also: "I'm not reading that "

  • @curtisfranzen986

    @curtisfranzen986

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wish I was at that table. The abuser would have been kicked from the game. As a Survivor myself, I have ZERO tolerance.

  • @hypethekomodo6495
    @hypethekomodo64952 жыл бұрын

    That last story... I feel sick. I don't think I've seen anything that made me want to wither up in disgust. So disgusting.

  • @scyobiempire4450
    @scyobiempire44502 жыл бұрын

    No DnD is better then predatory DnD. "I'm not reading that."

  • @williamharmon4039
    @williamharmon40392 жыл бұрын

    Story 2: That isn't even what chaotic neutral means! It just means having a philosophy promoting freedom to decide one's own values and actions without influence of authority and imposed order to diminish one's independence and not personally concerned with nebulous and high-minded concepts of moral goodness while also not being as selfish and harmful as to be evil. They would probably say they believe in the pursuit of liberty and freedom for its own sake as a worthy goal and see themselves as realists compared to the overly idealistic good alignments and the short-sightedly egotistical and self-destructive evil alignments. It doesn't just mean "I screw up everything and never cooperate because lol anarchy!" It means they have their own personal goals and don't care about any laws or authority telling them not to pursue them, and if they are part of a party pursuing the same general goal then it would align with their desires and interests to work with the party as well as possible as a means to achieving that end without pissing anyone off unnecessarily because that doesn't get them anything they want. Sure, a chaotic neutral character could be an annoying contrarian in theory. But just acting like that's the definition of chaotic neutral is a dumb defense. Just embrace your character being an obnoxious jerk and play it up so everyone else can be in on the joke and find a way to keep it from disrupting the fun. Characters who dislike each other and whose personalities clash being forced to work together because their goals align but arguing the whole time is a cool idea, but it needs to have some meeting in the middle by the players and an understanding OOC that you are still working together to tell a story everyone is still enjoying.

  • @PaladinGear15

    @PaladinGear15

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bad players will always play chaotic neutrals when they wanna fuck up the whole game and use the excuse "that's what my character would do" it's pointless using truth and logic against such people x_x

  • @AuntLoopy123

    @AuntLoopy123

    2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent explanation of an often misunderstood alignment. I also tell my players, "Evil does not necessarily mean you kick puppies and murder children, just for the lulz. It can be simply that you are really selfish, and don't do anything that doesn't work to your gain. If your party of do-gooders are working toward the same goal as you, or even a goal-adjacent goal, such that helping them helps you, you can be the MVP of the party, working closely with everyone to achieve that goal, as a means of achieving your own, selfish goal, in the end. Heck, you can even be charming, and SEEM good. As long as you and the DM know that you have a reason for seeming so, you can be evil and come across as good, or neutral, and nobody needs to know your true alignment. In fact, some of the most evil people are the ones whom everyone trusts, because they seem so good. They're not saying, "Oooh! There's an NPC. I must murderize them, simply because I'm evil, and it's what my character would do, because evils murder everyone, no matter what. Right?" Wrong. Even a chaotic evil, who "just wants to see the world burn," and enjoys anarchy and chaos, will still do the unexpected and not murder everyone in sight, from time to time. And player who doesn't want to think so hard as to play a character you describe as chaotic neutral, could do well choosing to play like Batman's enemy, Two-Face, who flips a coin, to see what he's going to do. The player can just roll a die, possibly with THREE choices, the good, the bad, and the indifferent, whenever he's faced with a decision or needs to take an action. The die is an embodiment of pure entropy and chaos, and with equal odds for being anywhere on the spectrum of good vs. evil, there's nothing more neutral. Even if your goal is to choose neither good nor evil, but to find the middle ground that neither hurts nor benefits anybody (almost impossible, at least half the time, btw), you can't argue that giving good and evil equal time is NOT neutral. But too many people have this idea that if you're not actively do-gooding, then you're evil, and somehow morph that into "Chaotic neutral means killing random NPCs." Meanwhile, you can be chaotic good, someone who likes to play a lot of pranks that don't actually harm anyone, but add some uncertainty and chaos to life. Maybe you like to sneak into a zoo and break out all the non-aggressive, but hard to capture, creatures, leaving the neighborhood dealing with an invasion of really cute cuddlies at an inopportune time. Such chaos makes for great diversions, while the rest of the party is doing the Big Important Thing, that would work so much better if half the guards are off trying to capture the escaped cuddly animals, and trying to convince the children who caught them that, no, you cannot keep them, and no, your parents will not allow you to have a pet, and no, you will NOT feed them and clean them and take them for walks every day, and no, they WILL be happier in the zoo, and YES! It is an excellent zoo, with experts in animal care, who love their charges, and miss them, and the enclosures are quite comfortable and as close to their natural habitat as possible, and their diets are specifically designed to be as healthy for them as possible, including hard-to-get ingredients that this particular species needs, and cannot get from your table scraps, and if you really love this cute little cuddly, you'll let them live in the zoo, and just come and visit them often, and WILL YOU JUST GIVE ME THE LITTLE CRITTER, YOU LITTLE BRAT?! Chaos can be great to play, but frankly, I think it is too often the crutch of a poor player who doesn't really understand what chaos actually is.

  • @yellowpower3755

    @yellowpower3755

    2 жыл бұрын

    Blegh…. Chaotic Neutrals….

  • @chrisrudolf9839

    @chrisrudolf9839

    2 жыл бұрын

    There can be very different kinds of chaotic neutral. One are the sensible ones who just idealize personal freedom as you described, others can be characters who mostly lack ideals and a distinct moral compass and just behave very impulsively, acting on spontaneous whims rather than any deeper believe of what's wrong or right. Other chaotic neutral characters might just be blatantly insane. The person in the original story surely didn't have to make her character act this way just because it said "chaotic neutral" on her character sheet, but deciding that their character didn't like to be outvoted and had a tendency to disregard agreements and do what she wanted to do in the first place instead is definitely in accordance with being chaotic neutral and playing such a character is a viable decision. However, it stops being OK when you ruin the other players fun and one needs to compromise when others feel that it becomes an out of game problem. And at the very least, if you conciously decide to play a problematic character whose bad habits can screw things up for the party, you need to be OK with your actions having ingame backlash for you both from the DM and the other characters and not feel butthurt about it as a player when the rest of the group reasonably decides e.g. to abandon your character.

  • @williamharmon4039

    @williamharmon4039

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chrisrudolf9839 Yeah. Good point. Really, any kind of character fits the game as long as players are still cooperating OOC to have fun and not taking in-game consequences personally.

  • @CoreXion_
    @CoreXion_2 жыл бұрын

    "I'm not reading that." Also some good tips in this.

  • @unluckyone1655
    @unluckyone16552 жыл бұрын

    To the creep in the last story, all i will say is "FBI OPEN UP!" But in all seriousness though what a scary situation to be in for OP. So glad they are doing better and never had to deal with that creep directly, hopefully. Gods that story took me back when i didnt realize certain people were being creepy to me when i was that age, adults who go out of their way to do that to children need to be excised from society

  • @Sara-sn5gd
    @Sara-sn5gd2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, if you're underage, I'd say only play with random adults if there's a trusted adult there to supervise you. Even if not, online you can just say "btw my mom listens in on these things" and it'll likely scare the bad ones off. Or if they try getting you to do it alone, they don't have good intentions

  • @michaelvatore6007
    @michaelvatore60072 жыл бұрын

    Matt's the type of guy who threatens to kill himself when someone tries to break up with him.

  • @saibogu002love
    @saibogu002love2 жыл бұрын

    "You dont let me play my character how i want !" Actually you just played your character how you wanted. See where that brought you ?~

  • @curtisfranzen986
    @curtisfranzen9862 жыл бұрын

    Hey Crispy, I am a Survivor as well! Thanks for sending THE message out!! It's hard for Survivors sometimes. People don't believe US!!

  • @kcollier2192
    @kcollier21922 жыл бұрын

    As for your open, I can honestly say that I've met 1 male that was completely screwed over by having his mom's BF seduce him as a teenager. it's given him a completely negetive opinion of women. Not all fantasies should be made real folks. Story 1- OP made the best of a bad situation- too bad the DM had other ideas. Story 2- As folks tend to say around these parts: "Stop being a jagoff!" Good riddance to both the character and player. Story 3- Josef Stalin would have been proud of the number of red flags this guy flew. What a f8ing creep!

  • @QueenSiv
    @QueenSiv2 жыл бұрын

    My boyfriend is always the DM and I’ve never been favored, we always argue his friend is favored most lol

  • @alisontibbens2155
    @alisontibbens21552 жыл бұрын

    "You do you?" Why not; she did everyone else. OY! I just want to find a village to rescue.

  • @meddygon
    @meddygon2 жыл бұрын

    I'm not reading that. If anyone wants to get that *detailed* with RP with a 14yo and is an adult, please let me introduce you to my bolt-cutters.

  • @curtisfranzen986

    @curtisfranzen986

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bolt cutters would definitely do the trick, but I prefer my tac/fold. More up close and personal.

  • @Admiralkirk95
    @Admiralkirk952 жыл бұрын

    Honestly the quick thinking of the paladin at the end to overcome the deal, and save people from future demon invasions honestly was a power move and a half. I would think that's some redemption right there, and keeps everyone alive with out conflict. But of course DM has to ruin it. The halfling story just feels like someone who really wants to do things their way and expects no consequences. It's not keeping her from being her character if she has to face consequences. She can be her character all she wants, but being punished for it in a logical and easy way doesn't seem to bad. They even said they'd fastforward the month so it's not like it's gonna make her stay in jail for a session. It's not even chaotic nuetral to do any plan you like but never do any plan you don't like. Chaotic implies they may actually go with a plan sometimes then ruin it, or deviate at other times. Not 100% of the time.

  • @sunzi42
    @sunzi422 жыл бұрын

    The halfling wanted to be the main character and wanted to be immune to negative consequences. When she realized this was not the case, she tried to guilt everybody into obeying her. The only difference between the halfling and a fascist opressor, is that the latter has power.

  • @TheClairezy018
    @TheClairezy0182 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, in regards to the last story, I 100% blame the dm and other players for not stepping in. Even in a roleplay session that was not good behavior and they should have protected the 14yr. I mean the DM should have said no to their "solo" rp sessions and better yet never let the characters have that kind of relationship in the first place. It's not at all appropriate and that was a pedophile grooming a child.

  • @elvingearmasterirma7241

    @elvingearmasterirma7241

    2 жыл бұрын

    The DM was also 14 So they… like…

  • @jillianh7565
    @jillianh75652 жыл бұрын

    I can relate to the last story mentioned. Recently I joined an online Ravenloft community. Most of the people on the server were nice but one thing led to another with one of the guys in the group. As a curious player who wants to RP her character, I suggested a text RP session between the group members. One guy said that he would RP an interaction between my character, a half elf cleric noblewoman, and Count Strahd Von Zarovich. The first text RP went well and there was nothing outwardly creepy about this guy. In fact, I had a lot of fun. However, a few days later he somehow found my personal information and started sexualizing and stalking me both in character and online. Keep in mind that I started having nightmares about Ravenloft as a result of this creepiness. At this point I set boundaries for what I wanted from these RP sessions and our online interactions. Eventually his creepiness bled over to the group chat and it started a huge argument. This guy tried to play things off like he was "playing as Strahd" even though I hadn't consented to or been aware of this "RP session". Eventually I exposed his creepiness to the group and blocked him on Facebook and Discord.

  • @Asmielle
    @Asmielle2 жыл бұрын

    I'm half laughing... My Tiefling Roguelock is named Creed as well and I always have him before my inner eye when 'Creed' is mentioned...

  • @Karmasu_L
    @Karmasu_L2 жыл бұрын

    What i hear about that halfling is that she may have gotten a sentence for a month in prison but her behaviour in there was so bad that her stay got extended indefinitely.

  • @Frostie323
    @Frostie3232 жыл бұрын

    I've played with underage people, I've DM'd for mixed groups of underage players. Any romance is absolutely a NO-GO. Most adults wouldn't even try it. WTF IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE.

  • @petrichor3797
    @petrichor37972 жыл бұрын

    I used to play pathfinder with my back then girlfriend and me as the dm. And I literally pulled no punches, it's a homebrew demons and Devils campaign and my gf's character almost died 4 times. I made it very clear that if they die it won't be the end but there will be serious repercussions... she still goes and tries hugging a Devil ... to say the least, she took 6d4 burn damage at level 4 wizard and only survived do to luck. The campaign is still running though with new characters but some of the old players and they have another shot at saving the village and not being turned into a Demon's pet.

  • @360entertainment2
    @360entertainment2 Жыл бұрын

    My niece has mentioned that she’s been DM’ing online at 13 and has mentioned that she’s had to block people for being way too creepy with her. I really hate that she’s able to randomly meet these folks and I have no idea if and how she can better filter these fools out!

  • @NotAnIlluminatiSpy
    @NotAnIlluminatiSpy2 жыл бұрын

    Why does everyone who pulls the "but that's what my character would do" BS never grasp that what MY character would do in that situation is leave the walking death trap to die of their own stupidity.

  • @kayhaven4710
    @kayhaven4710 Жыл бұрын

    Man Matt sounds terrifying!!! I’m honestly really angry that the rest of the ADULTS AT THE TABLE LET THIS CONTINUE IN GAME. That indicates to me that they’re all creeps.

  • @KaosEngel
    @KaosEngel2 жыл бұрын

    Grown people grooming kids and teens in any way is horrendous. And like you Said, when you are a kid it is hard to set boundaries and understand fully what is happening. And the adult KNOW and exploit that. What that dude did is beyond wrong.

  • @clemonkey
    @clemonkey5 ай бұрын

    No because on the second story when he made an amazing plan and said a really nice speech and an angel just killed him made me actually wanna cry because I feel so bad

  • @ArcmageZaln
    @ArcmageZaln2 жыл бұрын

    Im not reading that. and I'm sure you would have Matt Mercer throwing foam pool noodles at you from the corner of your room if you did. ;p wanted to put some humor to the darkness. hoped it helps.

  • @raindropsandfeathers2245
    @raindropsandfeathers22452 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for covering such a serious topic.

  • @crosstv9438
    @crosstv94382 жыл бұрын

    I'm not reading that, great video man you're becoming one my most watched D&d youtubers alongside Critcrab.

  • @mileidyclass
    @mileidyclass2 жыл бұрын

    I hope Matt gets thrown in a prison cell one day. I hope the OP had screenshotted their conversations with him and if not, I hope he gets caught and rots in prison for the rest of eternity. Seriously, what is it about RP groups and games that attract so many creeps and predators? I know online they get more anonymity which protects them unfortunately, but I wonder what it is about roleplay that attracts so many of them? Almost makes me feel ashamed for finding interest in role-playing (either for games, fandom/media related ones or in general) or not want to engage in them at all.

  • @Edgeofthornes
    @Edgeofthornes Жыл бұрын

    Final story: NOT only underage players need to keep an eye out! NOT only females (real or only played) either! NOT only because you might be a victim of one of these jerks BUT because those who ARE victimized need YOU to try to warn them (gently please, these jerks know how to lure in their victims and separate them from other players, even in life friends) AND in case they tell you about abuse they need you to recall the little red flags, the fragments of clues that now mean something so you will support them, stand beside them. The DM and party need to do something about the jerk: is there enough there to just boot him/her (the victim can be any sex, so can the offender), do you all need to face the jerk with the complaint (the victim may or may not be there THEIR choice), listen for those clues, for red flags big or small in the jerks responses, if victim is there watch the jerks reaction, and is it different than it was in game. Assuming he was booted, or less optimal the group breaks up, let the victim know they are still welcome, either current game or future ones. Don’t joke about what happened; the scars last far longer than you’d think; when the victim (tentatively) offers a quip it’s growing easier for them to deal with it. Pretend harassment and even rape can far too easily become real: protect your personal info, including details on where you live, real name, exact age (if a minor ALWAYS SAY SO like “not old enough to drive yet” be careful if your server has a minimum age, never go below it or person your talking to can get you booted later), your gender, pictures that show details near your home (favorite coffee bar, the mall store where you work) even of your home (from actual street number, to outstanding details (wow an actual Victorian house), you’d be surprised how little details add up, and most jerks have time to waste. Save all messages, texts, emails, even other messaging services ESPECIALLY if you did not give it to jerk, save pictures, requests for pictures, if either are sexual in nature tell parents and call the cops if a minor as the jerk is in big trouble. Not-a-minor, check local laws at minimum you can maybe get a S&D order they have a SO, that person might not know (possible ally) BUT CAN know all about it and betray you to the jerk. Handle with care…

  • @michaelkramer5199
    @michaelkramer51992 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I'm not reading that. Somehow I think online gaming makes creeping like that last story even easier for folks. They feel protected behind the screen and microphone, even more so if they just use text, and will do things they wouldn't dare in person because they'd get a snoot full of fist from other players. I know these things happen IRL as well, but online these creeps find it easier to hide and gaslight. Definitely not is OP's fault Matt was a predator. These crop up so much, I'm expecting a Dateline special. "Have a seat for me, Matt."

  • @mustardreams3334
    @mustardreams3334 Жыл бұрын

    For some reason, the last story reminded me of my own rpg horror story. So, just to lay some things out; we had an rpg group that met up at the local library. There were people of all ages. I was in my 20s, the DMs (we had multiple who took turns running games) were older like 30s to 40s, maybe 50s, and there were others in my age range, but it was mostly peeps in their teens or younger. Myself and the teens and kids were all new to DnD. Well. The particular campaign had my wood elf life cleric of Bahamut named Mindartis. (It was a short campaign. Normally the campaigns got dropped by the main dm, so nobody knew what campaign or system the main dm was going to do that day until he said. But let’s call the main dm, Charles.) Well. I was very shy and scared of what people thought of me, especially after Charles called my rping of Mindartis in Session 0 larping. Charles kept calling Mindartis by his childhood name of Thia, because he would know all about my character and has seen my character’s whole life. He also had a hard time remembering that Mindartis was a male because he would see me (I’m a female.) and assume that Mindartis was female. (He also claimed that it was hard to tell because I didn’t make my voice deeper or tried to pull a voice. I was normally freaking out inside and didn’t want to be seen as larping again by him.) Charles also managed to forget that my cleric was a cleric; and told his wife (who joined the game later) that we didn’t have any clerics and to make a cleric. He also questioned why a wood elf would be a life cleric of Bahamut when that was one of the options he gave me. Anyway, the moment you all are waiting for. So, the session seems like it’s going well, despite the hiccup of Charles forgetting that Mindartis was a cleric. My mother’s character (Cerriwen is what I think she named the character.), Cor’s character (dwarf fighter I think. Forgot the name. But the player was a friend and in his teens), and Mindartis had just slept in a nice tavern/inn. It’s the next day in game and the other cleric (played by Charles’ wife) has called everyone to meet us. Charles then asked us what exactly we do. Cor and my mom tell him and he seems satisfied, before he looks right at me. I say that Mindartis gets ready, puts on his armor, and goes downstairs to meet up with the other two. Charles gets this weird look on his face and says, “That’s it?” I reply with a timid yes and asked what else did he want. He then proceeds to call Mindartis a her again (He had called Mindartis she/her pronouns so often that I had drawn the symbol for male on the name card for Mindartis. And I had the name card facing Charles.) and I try to politely tell Charles that Mindartis is actually a male. He then starts saying, “Well. How am I supposed to know that?! You never have him belch or take care of his morning wood or act like a guy! You just play him like a female and don’t even try to pull a voice for him! You could like try to make your voice deeper than your usual voice! I don’t get why you want to play a gender that isn’t your own, you girls will never know what the other sex has to go through!” I kinda zoned out after that and became very quiet. My mom was not thrilled at all, but didn’t say anything during the session. She just tried to get me re-engaged with the campaign, but I was tapped out. I think that campaign died after that session, but I can’t remember if it was because Charles got bored or if he felt he couldn’t run it with less than 10-13 players. I brought Mindartis back as a character in my games and in rp sessions with my brother. And I can say that I’m much happier and less stressed, especially after I found a better DM and group.

  • @gramfero
    @gramfero Жыл бұрын

    DMs including partners in thier games is a huge red flag for real

  • @Wrendrawsstuff
    @Wrendrawsstuff2 жыл бұрын

    My partner is my dm and he is so fair it’s amazing. There is no favoritism showed toward me which I love. In fact my character was the first and only one to die so far. I made a new character and everything is great.

  • @chrisnihil6452
    @chrisnihil64529 ай бұрын

    A god revives character, adds blessings and returns character to Hell. Seems legit.

  • @michaelgamel5915
    @michaelgamel591511 күн бұрын

    11:54 wait as in the verbal componet for firebolt? So every time someone cast firebolt there saying your name XD

  • @arcady0
    @arcady02 жыл бұрын

    That whole story around 15:00 and so - the dude was an adult doing that with a kid. Folks should have contacted the police. That older guy was doing what is known as 'grooming', and it's likely that if the game hadn't ended, things would have ended in a police matter...

  • @donnieeck3176
    @donnieeck31762 жыл бұрын

    Where does this teacher work? You know, for potential job opportunities 😂😂

  • @smitty215able
    @smitty215able2 жыл бұрын

    I would just like to point out that "no dnd is better than bad dnd" has two meanings

  • @PipHalsey
    @PipHalsey2 жыл бұрын

    I always make it very clear that I'm not giving my girlfriend favoritism as a DM, or Player. I actually have a funny story about when we first started playing DnD together. I was playing as a rogue/bard, and her character had been knocked out. It wasn't a dire situation, she hadn't failed any death saves. But it was my turn, and the question came up if I should use healing word on her. But the Cleric in our group, the dedicated healer, would have a turn before any enemies did. So I felt it was a lot more in character (My character being a charlatan, and yes, definitely chaotic neutral.), to heal himself, and than disengage. Everyone thought it was a funny character moment, she wasn't in any real danger after all, so I wasn't actively being a jerk. But boy did she tease me (Good naturedly) about it for awhile.

  • @ZedMazaus480
    @ZedMazaus4802 жыл бұрын

    I'm not reading that. Seriously WTF?! What is wrong with that Matt guy? That s$#@ is messed up.

  • @WladcaPodziemia
    @WladcaPodziemia2 жыл бұрын

    Ignoring team's plan is always on few layers of disrespect. - Time of whole group was wasted on planning - Parts of plan that is enforced were not discussed and thus must be improvised OVerall, it is not an issue of Result, but issue of Cost. Cost of time wasted to plan somethign that was not implemented cost of sub-optmal handling of parts that were not discussed and overall result... Since "success" is not binary, it can have grades of it, depending on resources spent and recieved. This is "corpo level" of stuff... Imageine your boss getting you into the meeting for few hours to discuss future work, then when you start on tht work you would do everything ifferently, justyfing it by "well, nothing broke too much". That is no way to act, no way to treat coworkers....

  • @ruecumbers
    @ruecumbers2 жыл бұрын

    Holy hell that post title came out swinging.

  • @AuntLoopy123
    @AuntLoopy1232 жыл бұрын

    The fact that children can't see and understand the red flags is PRECISELY WHY THIS IS A VERY BAD THING! When someone comes onto an adult like this, the adult is more likely to say, "Nope!" or maybe "Heck, yeah! Let's do this! WHEEEE!" But a literal child, innocent and inexperienced, doesn't know what the flags are, let alone what to do about them. Many times, children still have not yet learned that it's OK to say, "No," to an authority figure, after having "Behave and obey authority figures!" drilled into them, for all their lives. Statutory rape laws exist for a reason. This may not have broken laws (I don't know, laws don't always keep up with technology, and I don't know location laws, or the dates), but legal or not, it is still WRONG. Because it made OP extremely uncomfortable, and OP WOULD have refused, if OP knew they COULD refuse, and/or how to go about it. In my senior year of high school, we FINALLY had sex education, including "These are the bad, Bad, BAD consequences of having sex! Pregnancy! DISEASE! DOOOOOOOM!" On the final, we had to give information about the doooooom and gloooooom, and we also had to provide responses of "How to say No, to sex." Just for fun, I gave 10, but then, I was always into creative writing, and I had some time left, so I had a lot of fun with it. But by then, I was 17, and had been "practicing" saying No to sex for quite some time, by the time this test rolled around. OP was 14 or 15? Still not experienced, and still thinking, "Am I even ALLOWED to refuse? Even with a person in authority over me?" It's how so many predators are so successful.

  • @LizzieTheRose
    @LizzieTheRose Жыл бұрын

    My favoritism would manifest in me specifically targeting them out of love. I do it constantly to my best friend in Amoon Gus.

  • @ViniciusLuiggi
    @ViniciusLuiggi2 жыл бұрын

    Well guess she just misunderstood what kind of roleplay they were doing.

  • @whensomethingcriesagain
    @whensomethingcriesagain2 жыл бұрын

    I think wrt the issue of group planning, the question of whether or not to be obstinate can sometimes come down to what the plan actually is. I once had a group where the first plan they had was to just Leeroy Jenkins their way into everything. In Pathfinder. Because they all wanted to play Tabletop Skyrim. So I had to keep basically telling them that if they do that they're all going to die and I would always end up cleaning up their messes for them.

  • @gigaswardblade7261
    @gigaswardblade72612 жыл бұрын

    the backstabbing DM mustve just really hated the OP

  • @dumbghost3109
    @dumbghost31092 жыл бұрын

    me and my bf play dnd together. the only thing we really do is have the occasiomal minor romantic subplot (we play exclusively with out friends and everyone is cool with it. our friendgroup talks a lot about nsfw topics and our games tend not to be very sfw so its all cool)

  • @steel8231
    @steel82312 жыл бұрын

    A pacifist in a war zone doesn't always end badly. Hacksaw Ridge was based on a true story after all.

  • @DwarfDaddy
    @DwarfDaddy2 жыл бұрын

    That first story is wrong on so many levels that I feel I need to confess to a priest after having listened to it.

  • @angelofdusk13
    @angelofdusk13 Жыл бұрын

    Oh my god. The grooming story gave me fucking GOOSEBUMPS. Jesus fucking Christ!

  • @jamesmahon6788
    @jamesmahon67882 жыл бұрын

    That ain't an assignment a student wants from a teacher. At least OP is graduated... does that make this better or worse?

  • @jinxtheunluckypony
    @jinxtheunluckypony2 жыл бұрын

    First story. There’s nothing wrong with having a fetish but taking unwilling people into it is absolutely awful.

  • @Limbo785
    @Limbo7852 жыл бұрын

    Aye a fellow Destiny player! Almost made a Guardian for a Mutants and Masterminds game but I did not understand the system lol.

  • @Kris-wo4pj
    @Kris-wo4pj2 жыл бұрын

    Ive seen and had partners freak out cuz they werent getting special treatment. I refuse to dm with partners

  • @PhthaloGreenskin
    @PhthaloGreenskin2 жыл бұрын

    Beware the alien. The mutant. And the simp.

  • @GrievousFrom
    @GrievousFrom2 жыл бұрын

    15:40 Don't worry, I don't think Zeus reads these, being a terrible DM himself.

  • @kevinewer1914
    @kevinewer19142 жыл бұрын

    “I’m not reading that.” Yikes that was cringe.

  • @redacted606
    @redacted6062 жыл бұрын

    0:58 crispy after reading the intro story.

  • @drivennale8551
    @drivennale85512 жыл бұрын

    my partner gave me a cursed item that might have killed an essential npc by accident. lol

  • @sherylcascadden4988
    @sherylcascadden4988 Жыл бұрын

    This table is for general public, not X, not R, maybe PG-13.

  • @PrincessShiloh21
    @PrincessShiloh212 жыл бұрын

    I'm not reading that >.> that got dark

  • @HowToPnP
    @HowToPnP Жыл бұрын

    Story 2 So the DM forced the PVP and when OP is smart about it, he gets killed by a literal deus ex machina... fuck that guy in particular!

  • @ericsmith551
    @ericsmith551 Жыл бұрын

    It honestly sounds like OP in the 4th story was cool with it AT FIRST. Like, they were okay with the character's having a relationship, and that's admirable of them. It just became creepy because the dude was a creep. It's not a bad thing to have in-character romances (perhaps not with someone that young, but as long as nothing serious is discussed it shouldn't honestly be that big of an issue,) but there needs to be boundaries and such boundaries need to be discussed as part of the in-character romance. "Are you okay with PDAs? No? Okay, we'll just keep it to things like a simple "I love you" before fading to black with no mention of going to bed or anything of the like." Something kind of like that, y'know? But seriously, that dude's just a damn creep. Ugh.

  • @moritzlinden7169
    @moritzlinden71692 жыл бұрын

    Very first story: Okay, so you want to do some erotic RPG and need a DM for that. Fine. But that's not the way to do that. If you want to play DnD5, you search for a DM who offers DnD5. If you want a purely narrative game with no dice, you search for a DM who offers a purely narrative game with no dice. If you want an erotic game, you search for a DM who offers an erotic game. You don't go into a game shop and spring that on someone. You just don't. Last story: Yeah, with minors on the table, just don't bring up sex at all, okay?

  • @LaylaSpellwind
    @LaylaSpellwind7 ай бұрын

    So instead of a month in prison... she chose life in prison? XD

  • @The_Brainsturgeon
    @The_Brainsturgeon2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I'm not going to make some pun or wordplay on that. That last story was pretty gross.

  • @sherylcascadden4988
    @sherylcascadden4988 Жыл бұрын

    I'm not reading that... And I don't blame you. Ick.

  • @BlueBerryDM
    @BlueBerryDM2 жыл бұрын

    Hey dont kink shame that first one 😅

  • @JaelinBezel
    @JaelinBezel Жыл бұрын

    15:55 No shame in that. The first time i ever heard the term “Boner” was from my friends in English 1 in 9th grade. My first assumption was that they meant a graverobber.

  • @emphorepolpatinedasenate
    @emphorepolpatinedasenate2 жыл бұрын

    That 1st story was very wtf

  • @kikiblair5132
    @kikiblair51322 жыл бұрын

    I had a girlfriend back in high school that was really into Dungeons and Dragons themed dirty talk.

  • @MrCrunchytime
    @MrCrunchytime2 жыл бұрын

    Separate from my other comment, something I'd like to point out about the Chaotic Neutral player, to be fair to her she was playing Chaotic Neutral to a tee; a CN character very much marches to the beat of their own drum and they can abide or disregard established plans at their whims. That said, she wasn't roleplaying Chaotic Neutral so much as thinking everyone would just roll with it and there'd be no consequences.

  • @kristieclark3035
    @kristieclark30352 жыл бұрын

    15:36 are the adult allos okay?

  • @michaela.dreamock2543
    @michaela.dreamock25432 жыл бұрын

    Buttons.

  • @philipbabb
    @philipbabb2 жыл бұрын

    15:35 Why would you be struck by lightning?

  • @corrosivecabal
    @corrosivecabal2 жыл бұрын

    I hate the excuse of "My ChArAcTeR's ChAoTiC nEuTrAl!" 1)No it isn't, read up on alignment. 2)Chaotic Neutral is not chaotic stupid. 3)You're giving us actual CNs a bad reputation!

  • @marybdrake1472
    @marybdrake1472 Жыл бұрын

    Yikes, that last story was just terrible.😨

  • @darkshadowsaver
    @darkshadowsaver2 жыл бұрын

    The whole alignment blaming needs to stop chaotic neutral does not mean you'll do what ever the f you want without consequences. This is textbook not wanting to coop in a group. CN means you have your own aims but an changes on a whim. Your not playing your character when you agreed to a plan and not do it all the time.

  • @AuntLoopy123
    @AuntLoopy1232 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, for giving us some good, "I'm not reading that," instead of pushing the STUFF on us. I went and read the story, and YES. Thanks for not reading that. GROSS!

  • @alisonodonnell395
    @alisonodonnell395 Жыл бұрын

    What I don't get is why kids would want to play in adult party and why would adults even let kids in the party I can understand like 17 if your 20 but not 14

  • @FirstDayson
    @FirstDayson2 жыл бұрын

    Don't force your fetishes on others. Simple reason and say it with me youtube: THE 👏 PUBLIC 👏 CANNOT 👏 CONCENT

  • @animewarrior3
    @animewarrior32 жыл бұрын

    I'm not reading that wholesome shizz

  • @talkingwithadam812
    @talkingwithadam812 Жыл бұрын

    Beese churger

  • @sasunaru130
    @sasunaru1302 жыл бұрын

    I actually have played avernus! And my character, Bust a Chimes did die. She was an amazing bard, but squishy. The DM said he will talk to me out of game on what to do, so he rped out me talking to a God I think? And the God told me she wanted me to poison someone for her. My bard agreed, and...I say this jokingly XD because I was the only female player, and female character, the God kissed me to bring me back. I joked wkfh them they wanted to see a lesbian kiss. They laughed. 😂 Funny thing is I'm Bisexual so I have no problems with it! My fiance thiught it was funny too, since I showed him because I couldn't stop laughing. I wasn't expecting it! XD now with the favoritism, I always tell my fiance to not favor me. He doesn't, but knows I have troubles in understanding certain things, so he will help explain to me (game mechanics or if im not understanding a spell or something, not something he and only he should know) Now, in a one shot I mentioned in another comment, I was persuading a vampire lord. He didnt want me to just...persuade it easily, so he said the only way it'll have a CHANCE of working as if I rolled a nat 20. Anything lower and I would fail. Was it fair? Oh yeah it was. Funny thing; I rolled a nat 20 He wasn't gonna let that slide though, because...he seriously couldn't believe it and how could a dumb bard (int was 9) persuade a vampire LORD? So he rolled to see if the lord fell for it. Nat 1. It was the ONLY SITUATION he would allow it to happen, as I would hope most DM's would as well. I wouldn't ask him to favor me, the only helped I asked during the persuasion, because trust me I had to find the best reason to even ROLL was getting wording right. I had issues thinking of some words, and he knows I have issues saying thoughts to words in normal conversation, and often has to translate my ramblings. So that was the only help, was translating my rambling 😂 Rest i did on my own with the help of the dnd gods. ^^

  • @brianvance1178
    @brianvance117811 ай бұрын

    How old is Crispy anyways? Seriously, how old is he? Based on the times he shows his face during sponsorship bits he looks like he might be between 18 and 22

  • @picses76
    @picses762 жыл бұрын

    I'm not reading that!

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