True, it is not "nice" or "compassionate" to tell people that their sins are "OK".

@davehshs651

Ай бұрын

It's not "nice" to tell people that the way they were created makes them sinful.

@DetVen

28 күн бұрын

​@@davehshs651 It's not "nice" or "compassionate" to say such categorical, indisputable lies. Satan certainly has his way with you.

@kriegjaeger

22 сағат бұрын

​@@davehshs651 We're all sinners, we've all fallen short of the glory of God, we all need to be reborn. That means becoming a new creation in christ and apart from the sinful old self.

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WOW!!!! AMEN AND WELL SAID.

What she is describing has destroyed the Episcopal, Methodist, Presbyterian churches. And, I say this with sorrow as I was born into and raised Episcopalian. But, in the end, I am first a Christian that today worships in the Baptist tradition. If the Baptist lose their Biblical anchoring, I will join another denomination.

@kriegjaeger

22 сағат бұрын

We're warned not to follow men (denominations) but Christ. Even in the early church people started to align around Paul and Peter, and Paul had to write to rebuke them. Your home is in our family of christ, your church among his people.

Who is David French?

@deannaprince7954

Ай бұрын

Is this a serious or sarcastic question? Sorry, it's just that French has become a byword for those who claim to support something, but spend all their time bashing or rejecting that thing.

@jodyel

Ай бұрын

@@deannaprince7954 I've never heard of that or him before. So I had no idea what or who she was talking about. Is David French an actual person? I googled the name and did not see anyone or anything that told me.

@deannaprince7954

Ай бұрын

@@jodyel Please excuse me for questioning you. No worries! Did you know that drag queens in libraries, reading to kids, is a blessing of liberty? It should NOT be protested or banned?! Read on for David French's opinion... David French used to be a big name in conservative think tanks & political pundit circles. He believes that Christians can win the culture war by always being appealing & gracious. He believes that imposing our morality on the legal/political system is wrong & anti-Christian. We should win people over with our kindness & winsome-ness, never with laws or protests. He left National Review for the New York Times. He now spends more time calling out his fellow Christians, than standing up for anything else. There are plenty of articles making fun of him. Here is an article explaining & defending David French. It still, IMO, shows how deep his compromise w/sin has gone. Here is French's key quote, the one that most people refer to when they criticise him: "[Y]ou can’t define victory as the exclusion of your enemies from the public square. There are going to be Drag Queen Story Hours. They’re going to happen. And, by the way, the fact that a person can get a room in a library and hold a Drag Queen Story Hour and get people to come? That’s one of the blessings of liberty." sharperiron.org/article/truth-about-david-french-and-drag-queen-story-hour

She is [100] correct!

There's a big difference between trying to have compassion for someone trapped in sin and setting up a gay bowling league at your local church. This isn't a long clip, so maybe there's more context, but she seems to be employing a slippery slope argument that goes like this: if we try to understand sin, then it will naturally lead to these kind of grotesque perversions in church life and ministry. I don't think it necessarily follows. Nor does it follow that by attempting some measure of compassion or understanding that there can be no conversion or rescue. From what I've seen of Butterfield, she seems so intent on slamming people in the church (she name checks Preston Sprinkle and David French here) that she isn't concentrating on making better, more fine-tuned arguments for her position.

No, it’s your job to see sin from the point of view of your OWN superior view of scripture, particularly the sin of OTHERS. Smearing other Christians who do not share your narrow legalistic, fundamentalist view of sin, on a public forum is NOT a sin, is it?, because you are not the one who is sinning, right?

@jasenex791

Ай бұрын

Can you help me understand what you mean by legalistic and fundamentalist? I don't understand what you mean by them or why they're wrong. This feels like a short clip with a lot of other context missing so it would help to know where you're coming from?

@buckyoung4578

3 күн бұрын

Don't try and avoid the sin that has destroyed your relationship with God by attacking those that are trying to rescue you. Homosexuality/lesbianism/a man thinking he is a woman or vice versa are deadly sins period. This is true whether delivered with "love" or not.

@kriegjaeger

22 сағат бұрын

Take God at his word, he's very clear on sexual immorality. Adultery, fornication, sodomy that is the unnatural use of men and women, are all sin. We shouldn't support a man cheating on his wife or running around getting multiple women pregnant and leaving them, any more then we would relations against the lords design; Marriage, which is between a man and a woman.