For those of you who are confused, in general Obeka gets around cards that say "at end of turn" or "at next end-step" and cannot get around cards that say "until end of turn". The difference you are really looking for in cards is those keywords "at" and "until"!

@felipecampos3045

11 ай бұрын

at next end-step does not work with obeka, nobody seems to understand that

@metricarea7546

11 ай бұрын

@@felipecampos3045 Of course it does. When you play that in your turn, the next end step is your own and you just tap Obeka to end the turn

I would also like to add that it's worth checking erradas! Back on old cards, including the old version of Sneak Attack, cards didn't always have "at the beginning of the next end step" and instead just said at "end of turn." Since then, many of these old cards have been errada'd!

A good self mill card, imo, is Forbidden Alchemy. Look at the top 4, pick 1 card, add it to your hand, and put the rest in the grave yard. It an instant, it cost 2U to cast, and 6B for flashback. You could also throw in nephalia drownyard for some more self mill and it's a land.

May I suggest autumns veil and veil of summer You’re trying to combo blue players and or other players might try to interact … while it’s just 2 cards it’s still 2 cards that if you have ATTHE TIME might save your spell from being countered Also seers sundial actually is playable in this deck (it’s not top tier but play able ) With seers sundial in play and anything that turns lands into creatures, commander and ashnods alter. Sacrifice creature land get 2 mana. Land creature hits graveyard gets returned because of the commander it enters and sundials trigger hits the stack use the 2 mana to draw a card….all this does is draw as much as you Choose you then stop it and then sac for mana for the found combo piece(s)

Sweet deck tech! I do think that this deck needs Shiftfoot Boots and other means to protect Obeka since the deck is very reliant on having her in play

@justinjacobs1501

3 жыл бұрын

Thankfully she protects herself during your own turn. Just gotta protect her on everyone else's.

@FriendlyNewt

3 жыл бұрын

Kayas ghostform?

Really casual idea I got instantly when Obeka was spoiled is to abuse Myriad trigger (thought there's only a few creatures with Myriad and blade of selves to give Myriad to any creature). The myriad creature are not the greatest but the army would grow exponentially. The only thing to keep in mind (if I understand correctly) is that in order to keep your myriad token, you will need to end the turn at the end of combat once the sacrifice trigger is on the stack. you don't get your 2nd main phase and you have to be careful if you play ''until the next end step'' as it will trigger next turn.

@nbblerxc

2 жыл бұрын

I know this is a year late, but myriad doesn't work well with obeka since it says at the end of combat. even if you end the turn before the end of combat your turn, the next player will still have an "end of combat" and you will be forced to exile the tokens.

@clanechelon

2 жыл бұрын

@@nbblerxc i am not a judge, but I am fairly convince that if you end the turn with the myriad exile effect on the stack, it will not be recuring on future turn.though this means you end your turn before your 2nd main phase Edit : reading myriad effect again, the token do not gain the ability "exile at the end of combat". It is rather the end of the myriad ability. I dont see any reason to believe that you would exile the token on future turn assuming you ended your turn with the exile effect on the stack at the end of combat

Nice video! Just one technical thing - with Kroxa you said to put the discard effect on the stack and then the sac effect - you actually have to put the sac effect on the stack first and then the discard so the discard would resolve first and then you could end the turn before the sacrifice effect resolves. Cheers!

@CommandValley

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yep, that would be the correct order! I guess in my mind “put on the stack first” means “put it on the stack to resolve first”. Good catch!

about psychic vortex: if they go to remove obeka, you can inresponse end the turn to save her, they have to do it on their turn. this is one of the commanders 'm looking forward to building along with Yorlok of Scorch thrash and Ghen, Arcanum Weaver. I'm gonna build a Ghen, Arcanum Weaver curse deck. then you curse someone untill they die, then bring them all back and plae it on the next person. I think Ghen and Obeka are one of the first I'm gonna build from this set. Zara, Renegade Recruiter from the new set is also really good, she steals creatures from defending players hand when she attack. you have to give it back at the end of turn, but you know, you end the turn and oops, its now yours. I would also put Kozilek, the Great Distortion in there, its only 12-13 $ and it doesn't shuffle the grave back in like the other titans do. Desolation Twin is pretty brutal, it's under a dollar. Marchesa, the Black Rose is also something to consider, that way your creatures are a bit more resilient to boardwipes.

Phage the untouchable is an awesome include

@meyeneetuks4680

3 жыл бұрын

Wouldnt u just loose the game after casting it? If u didnt cast from hand u just loose.

phage the untouchable is the perfect reanimation target for obeka

@hugovandijk2635

3 жыл бұрын

Lmaoo

New commander and System of a Down just released new music! Today’s a good day!

Zara, Renegate Recruiter is also fun card from this set in Obeka - steal opponents creatures from their hand on attack :) Underworld Breach is a beast in this deck!

@NeophilusSubcult

3 жыл бұрын

Underworld Breach is definitely a great card, but it does not get very much extra utility than in any other deck. That is, because it doesn´t say "at the beginning of the NEXT end step", but just "at the beginning of the end step". So while you can save it during your turn, it is very hard to keep around for a full rotation, because it tries to sacrifice itself at your opponents end steps as well.

@YetiRawr

3 жыл бұрын

@@NeophilusSubcult Oh that's right. I didn't notice the text difference. Well, too bad :/

I'm confused about the whole "end of turn" vs "beginning of the end step", because I'm told cards that have effects that trigger at the end of the turn can't be dodged with Obeka, but everyone's including Last Chance and other cards that say "end of turn" and not "beginning of the end step"

@CommandValley

3 жыл бұрын

The confusion is understandable and I think a lot of that is in part because many of the old “end of turn” cards have been errata’d to say “beginning of the next end step”, including Last Chance. End of turn doesn’t get stopped by Obeka, but anything that says end step can be responded to while those triggers are on the stack, exiling them before they can take effect. Overall you just need to be careful about what has and hasn’t been errata’d. Checking the Gatherer or Scryfall is a good resource. - Peter

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10:05 Primordial Avatar wouldnt work right? cuz it says "until end of turn". Even when you en your turn you will still have to give back the creatures you stole

@christianjohnson8502

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of cards in this don’t work

7:13 I believe there is a mistake with that card since it reads: "Sacrifice it at end of turn", isn't it the same with the example of Sneak Attack and Lose Calm?

@CommandValley

3 жыл бұрын

Technically yes! However the card was errated on wizards.gatherer.com to say at the beginning of the next endstep. I should have specified but nice catch!

@Otto-Silva

3 жыл бұрын

@@CommandValley thanks for the info

@enersha

3 жыл бұрын

"at end of turn" = "beginning of end step"

@scalba

3 жыл бұрын

@@enersha yes, but we hardly have to distinguish it with "until end of turn", which is not the end step :)

@enersha

3 жыл бұрын

@@scalba yes "at end of turn" has been erratad to beginning of end step. "until end of turn" actually ends on cleanup step which Obeka does not skip. i had to research it myself but its all on her reminder text

Mana base?

Why not have Umbral Mantle?

10:01 I'm a little confused by this one. Why does this card work with obeka? It says until end of turn. I thought that that didn't work?

@yiangaruga4928

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't work with Obeka but it's a strong creature to reanimate with that etb effect

My question is if Obeka doesn't stop " end of turn" abilities, why does it say directly on her card "until end of turn" abilities end? Kind of a moot point if the older cards have been errated or not. She has the exact same wording as Sundial (withe the exception of whose turn could be ended) and no one seems to have had a problem. Just seem to make things a bit more complicated then they have to be in some of the comments.

@mecchido

3 жыл бұрын

older card that say "at the end of your turn" became "at the beginning of your next end step"

No Mirror March?

"At the beginning of the next end step" doesn't mean that will check on every end step?

@CommandValley

3 жыл бұрын

The reason why you can stop that from happening is because it is a trigger that will only happen on the next endstep, so if you exile that trigger on the stack then the trigger will fizzle and never check again! If a card said “at the beginning of every endstep” then it wouldn’t work! Hope this helps!

@viruse388

3 жыл бұрын

@@CommandValley it does help, thanks for the explanation!

@falscherhase4456

3 жыл бұрын

So you need to end the turn during the endstep when the triggers are on the stack?

@viruse388

3 жыл бұрын

​@@falscherhase4456 From what I've learned from all this, yes, you have to do it in response to those triggers on the stack when this end step happens, or else, they will end up triggering on the NEXT end step (on the next turn).

Last chance is now a $200 card. Just throwing that out there.

@mecchido

3 жыл бұрын

40 euros in the eu

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"Prefer decks that win a bit mor fairly" ... not even 5mins later "Desolation..." xD love it

I don't understand, does obeka end a player's turn? So in one on one my opponent has no hope?

@CommandValley

3 жыл бұрын

The way Obeka is worded “that player may end the turn” means that if you target your opponents they have the choice whether to do it or not, that way it doesn’t just shut an opponent out for the rest of the game!

@cantseeme9886

3 жыл бұрын

@@CommandValley thank u sir!

mnemonic betrayal, best card to this deck

crazy how Iso+final fortune is unfair but one sided desolation is not lol

Final Fortune on a stick... No way! Desolation is where it's at. I don't understand your logic here.

@justinjacobs1501

3 жыл бұрын

Archfiend of Depravity is another fun political tool in this deck. Do you get to keep your creatures or do you have to sacrifice them? I'll let you decide. Do you want to end your turn?

@Servbot40

3 жыл бұрын

@@justinjacobs1501 don't think that works they way you want it. If the opponent is not already in the end step, they would never choose to end their turn, because choosing to go to the endstep will still trigger AoD. Still strong in the deck but not really political just nasty, sounds like it goes in the deck.

@justinjacobs1501

3 жыл бұрын

@@Servbot40 you get to decide if they are spared from it's effect though. That's the political aspect of it. You can say, "Hey, don't attack me this turn and I'll end the turn when AoD's ability goes on the stack. Win win."

Ideas in bound does not say “at beginning of next endstep” a few of the cards you said don’t have “ at the beginning of the next end step” you’re a LIAR!

@CommandValley

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Steven! That card is an older card that has since been errata’d to say “at the beginning of the next end step” instead of “at end of turn”. You can look it up on Scryfall or the Gatherer to confirm! - Peter

@stevenperez4882

3 жыл бұрын

@@CommandValley I was joking once I figured out the older cards text:D

@CommandValley

3 жыл бұрын

Gotcha 😉

5:09 big sigh. stuff like this makes this video way less legit. 95% of the time this won't be an eldraaahzi so that's not a reason to put it in this deck

@CommandValley

3 жыл бұрын

I think the point was that the target would be a creature on the battlefield that you’d want to exile. Not necessarily an Eldrazi; that was just an example of a powerful creature that you’re most likely going to target if it is on the battlefield. But it could also be someone’s commander to set them back a turn, or something else that is threatening you. Plus, it’s repeatable every turn. Hope that helps! - Peter