Michael Rafferty & Terri-Lynne McClintic : A Killer in Denial
Michael Rafferty wanted to have his way with a very young girl and Terri-Lynne McClintic wanted to smash someone in the head. Together they made both of their dreams come true.
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Interesting fact about this case: Jim Smyth, the same guy who got Russell Williams to confess in probably the most watched interrogation on KZread, found Tori Stafford’s body. Hundreds were searching, but in the wrong areas due to McClintic’s vague descriptions. On a hunch, he drove further north and then looked for areas that matched the description. If not for Smyth, her body might not have been found for years. Edit: I regrettably started this post originally with “Fun fact.” Not sure why I typed that but it was obviously inappropriate. Changed to “Interesting fact.”
@dewilew2137
Жыл бұрын
@Mike Dice why Netflix? Just read a book.
@blazingstar9638
Жыл бұрын
I knew he was a total badass for a bunch of reasons, but I really did not know that! Wow
@ryanturner3432
Жыл бұрын
@Mike Dice Netflix is trash
@GirlPlus
Жыл бұрын
Honestly any investigation video that includes Jim Smyth is wild. Dude is good at his job
@gangstagarf
Жыл бұрын
Wow. I respect him even more now. What a legend
Seeing him cry into his little blankie, after what he did to that little girl, makes my blood boil. How can he sit there and be so unbelievably entitled and whiny? Not a single thought given to the girl he just did unspeakable things to. Only himself.
@grimreaper6112
Жыл бұрын
He wouldnt be very popular in prison.
@twizz420
Жыл бұрын
@@grimreaper6112 that's why they let these weirdos hang out with each other, separated from all the people who would smash his skull in
@dawnellafreeman4860
Жыл бұрын
@@grimreaper6112 or would he, if you get my drift...
@grimreaper6112
Жыл бұрын
@@dawnellafreeman4860 That chapter did the same story and he says that he has to pay to be protected.
@dogcat2994
Жыл бұрын
Yup. It was aaalllll about him. Poor him. How HIS pathetic life is now ruined. He needs to be destroyed in my opinion.
My condolences to the narrator for your experience with assault as a child. And also my respect for using your strength from those experiences to help other victims ♥️
@brendafreebird5105
5 ай бұрын
Absolutely...Thank you!!
You couldn't have said it better - I was also abused as a child and at no point would I ever be triggered to involve myself in such things. Hell, when I see people aggressively shaking their child in public I usually step in to stop it. Blaming your past for horrific acts that you take is absolute BS. You have a choice, make the right one!
@michalmichalski4152
9 ай бұрын
While I agree with you and the narrator, and I'm by no means defending the actions of such people, you have to remember we're looking at it from our own, relatively sane perspective. Not all abuse is equal, and not everyone reacts the same way to similar types of abuse. Actions that most people might not consider abusive at all, even if/when they are being done to them, might severely traumatize another person. It's kind of like with drugs. Most people can do some drugs at a party and then return to their normal lives and be fine. Most will probably never get addicted. Some get addicted gradually over time, and some will become instantly addicted. Then there's the ultra rare case of someone having some sort of adverse reaction and dying from a single, common recreational dose.
@sythiadawn
9 ай бұрын
@@michalmichalski4152 According to all the statistics, with all that I've been through, I should be a serial killer. I have a dark river of rage that I keep tightly controlled because no matter what, in the end it's a choice you make. What was done to me does not justify me doing the same to anyone else!! It's called free will and it's the reason we're not a savage pack of animals. There's NO justification for the crap people do to each other. It's as hard as f*ck being the good guy but that's the choice I make every day! Because nobody deserves to feel like I do!! 😢
@michalmichalski4152
9 ай бұрын
@@sythiadawn I agree, there is no justification. And I understand how you feel, and I understand the struggle. You are an amazing human being for choosing to end the cycle of violence/abuse. I admire your strength and I thank you for it. But that was my point, not to justify, but to understand. A monster is a monster, regardless of how they became that way. But understanding how a person becomes a monster can help to stop, and maybe reverse the process before horrific tragedies like this happen. Most cases like this involve some sort of progression to the final, heinous act(s). And they also (often, not always) involve more than one person who looked the other way, ignored, didn't care etc.
Calling this guy a monster is an insult to monsters. He's far beyond that.
@johnandrews9433
Жыл бұрын
But points for banging 7 broads at the same time
@tiediegymnasts920
Жыл бұрын
Absolute garbage can't even call them human
@patriciagazey4693
Жыл бұрын
Pos
@p5eudo883
Жыл бұрын
Her too. They're both truly evil.
@SuGirlabk7993
Жыл бұрын
This case made me so mad. I was thinking their both nothing but a couple of fn parasites. Even that's being to kind.
This story made me feel physically sick. Poor little Tori. How absolutely horrific. Life meaning a possibility of parole after 25 years. The only chance of 'justice' would be to 'accidentally' let them amongst the general prison population with firm rumours as to the sickening crime they perpetrated. I'm not going to apologise for saying it. Bless Tori and all who knew her. 🙏
@colmanpm
Жыл бұрын
@@bigredswife4646 I am lost for words. I'm sure I can humbly speak for all of us here when there are so few words to console anyone after such a bitter tragedy. I hope you can feel some kind of justice is served knowing they can never harm a child ever again. Bless Tori, you and yours. In our hearts. ♥️
@snippyJ
Жыл бұрын
I'm barely half way through the video and I hope they both have to deal with "prison justice" on the daily....
@bigredswife4646
Жыл бұрын
@@colmanpm thank you so much
@kenkaniff8428
Жыл бұрын
This was my comment . . . Even tho this guy didn't get convicted of any sex cr1mes aga1nst ch1ldren, he will still have a very difficult time in prison!!! There's nothing better than some good old fashioned prison justice and this guy has a bullseye on his back🎯💯!!! That gives me a warm fuzzy feeling knowing he will NOT have a "fun/good/easy" time in prison!!😉🤘
@bigredswife4646
Жыл бұрын
@@kenkaniff8428 we've spoken b4 and as u know I'm Toris mom. He WAS absolutely convicted of sex crimes... I just let Jiles know ... he was convicted of sexual assault of a Minor ... also I get letters anytime he's assaulted or sent to the infirmary and its weaned off as the years pass but EVERYONE in Ontario jails knows the name Micheal Rafferty 😉
The one bright spot here is that full-blown OxyContin withdrawl is an incredibly horrible experience and facing a police interrogator in that condition must have been living hell.
@r-pupz7032
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I thought that too. I'm 6 years in recovery but I still remember how horrific full-blown withdrawal was. It doesn't compare to what happened to poor Tori of course, but it's nice to think that he was suffering greatly during his interview and time in jail. I hope his prison time is spent in fear and in solitary confinement, which I've heard reformed ex-convicts on KZread describe as torturous. I would never usually wish that much misery onto anyone, but I gladly make an exception here. He's one of the most monstrous people I have ever heard about. Truly sickening. I can't even imagine how awful Tori's last moments were. RIP Angel ❤️
@heatherlynn4652
Жыл бұрын
Yes the mental and physical torment that must've been 👏 hope they both rot
@aishabush1655
Жыл бұрын
@@r-pupz7032 ikr
@whitneylail2659
Жыл бұрын
Yep same. Good
@barbiewhite9000
Жыл бұрын
It's Canada, they probably provide Methadone
I will never forgot seeing and hearing the helicopters near my home as they looked for Tori's body. This murder rocked our local community and when the details of what they did to Tori were released during the trial, I remember how traumatic it was just to read about. Rest In Peace beautiful girl. You would have been 22 now. I will never forget you.
@cherylbarnard5621
Жыл бұрын
I feel the same.I'm in Brantford and this was the worst to watch unfold.My oldest boy was the same age as Tori,and all I could do is obsess about how her poor family would live through this tragedy,because I know how I would,and it doesn't end well. Watching her father in interviews was so sad.And her mom deserved many apologise I'm sure she never got.
@MaryJane-qq9mm
Жыл бұрын
Same here I have a son her age so it really feels personal to me! And my last name is a lot like hers and I'm from South Western Ontario so it's hard to come to terms with what they did to her. I'm mad. I'm hurt. I want justice for Tori! They could never repay what they took away! I'm also an indigenous woman and it's especially offensive that they offer Terry Lynn the healing lodge! That should be reserved for survivors of violence not the for the s c u m that inflicts harm pain and suffering. They can r o t t in h e l l. They don't deserve to ever walk freely in any community anywhere ever again!!!!!! I am also a former crown ward and went through an insane childhood!!!! That's NOT a free pass to abuse and kill ANYONE, much less an innocent child!!! I don't want to hear about her poor pity childhood ever again! Like anyone's supposed to empathize with her when she couldn't have any compassion for the child when she led her to her death... She's vile and doesn't deserve to ever see the light of day ever again!!!
Of all the interrogations I've watched, this was the one that made me the most disgusted and angry. After what he did to Tori he's sulking with his head down and whining in his little blanket like he's being bullied. He is truly worse than evil and makes me so mad I almost feel guilty on a spiritual level.
@brucegiggles4643
Жыл бұрын
Clicked for me half way through the video, it's a JCS video I seen with Rafferty in it. Boiled my piss just how sniveling he was.
@sionbarzad5371
Жыл бұрын
John, he wouldnt have done what he did if he wasnt an extremely weak man in the 1st place.
@tommymorgan4677
Жыл бұрын
Agree, his behavior is like he`s been stealing cookies.
@kimberleymalone8547
Жыл бұрын
Omg I know just vile hope terrible things are happening to him makes me sick
@Princess-zu3jz
Жыл бұрын
That upset me too, those crocodile tears of him. What a pathetic POS.
The part where she described blood coming down the little girl's legs and yet still returned that poor girl to that depraved piece of trash... I felt sick and beyond furious.
@Jaji813
Жыл бұрын
This is the exact part where I had to pause the video to calm my nerves. I haven't finished watching the video, so I hope they're both in prison.
@raintree3383
Жыл бұрын
@@mc1069 I havent seen the toolbox killers case.....I will look for it Thanks
@bonnie.c.machuca3015
Жыл бұрын
I can't believe that even knowing as a female that a woman or child will be raped and killed
@raintree3383
Жыл бұрын
@@bonnie.c.machuca3015 I think us women understand the level of evil it takes for a female to allow/help such a thing to happen and it's even more impossible to fathom when it is a little girl....
@rosierose8549
Жыл бұрын
@@mc1069 Its a different type of evil. But this hit my heart like the David Parker Ray case. Vile men. Who. Truly have no soul. The audio he recorded & played to his kidnap victims legit gave me nightmares. Especially since there could be do many more victims we are unaware of.
Rafferty was asking an undercover cop in the jail if he had any painkillers. “It’s gonna be a rough night” I hope his cold turkey withdrawal was brutal.
@VlWalt
Жыл бұрын
I think that his cold turkey withdrawl , would be the least of his concerns, in prison & no amount of painkillers will numb, the prison justice that is hopefully bestowed upon him, for the rest of his pathetic days.
This makes me want to go home after work, and hug my 10 year old daughter tighter than I’ve ever hugged her! It’s disgusting people like this who make it hard for good parents to let their children play outside, or even go to a friend’s house!
I’ve watched the interrogation of Michael Raffertys several times. Hiding under a blanket with opiate withdrawal. Love the detective and his comments. Worth watching
@Soffity
Жыл бұрын
That’s the same detective who interrogated Russell Williams..
@danielm4114
Жыл бұрын
Didn't break him in the four hours they held him in the room. Impressive job by the detectives to stick with a difficult suspect. Terri was a little easier.
@smartyjonez5470
Жыл бұрын
This is the important part to take away from this whole thing. At one point this guy had 7 girls at the same time - and they fully knew that he was a disgusting, violent, druggie sicko and yet they stayed with him because he was good looking. It’s amazing the lengths that women will go to, to please a guy that’s good looking - no matter how sick or violent he is. But they then say “they just want a nice guy” Suurreee
@mikefarmer7653
Жыл бұрын
Jim Smith I believe..... He's excellent
@codybarry8204
Жыл бұрын
@@mikefarmer7653 Canada's BEST Jim Smyth. He did Russ Williams freak too....broke him down.
This should be a death penalty case! I'm Canadian and I know how generally ppl feel but my God! For some crimes no other sentence is appropriate. Idc if you had a horrific childhood or if you have a crippling drug addiction. You lose your privilege of drawing breath. My heart breaks for little Tori.
@dewilew2137
Жыл бұрын
Y’all have the death penalty in Canada?
@voidhog1028
Жыл бұрын
@@dewilew2137 It was abolished in 1976
@Lemon_Jackassss
Жыл бұрын
@@dewilew2137 Not anymore but it’s cases like this that makes me wish we still had it
@janinelockett2222
Жыл бұрын
I think the UK(where I live) need bring back the death penalty for scum like these and for the sick t##ts whor#pe kids.
@janececelia7448
Жыл бұрын
OH NO! Death is too good for them. Use these THINGS and other THINGS like them for valid medical research and save the lives of countless of innocent animals.
That first detective was so calm and so thorough and so professional
You, Coffeehouse Crime and That Chapter are my 3 favorite true crime documentary channels. Great work!
@cheeriosforhonkies8867
Жыл бұрын
Dreading Beyond evil Also 2 very good channels
@Lemon_Jackassss
Жыл бұрын
I love coffee house crime and that chapter they are great
@shdynareed3278
Жыл бұрын
The Disturbing Truth another good one!
@johnsir6457
Жыл бұрын
Also my 3 favourites 😃
@tommymorgan4677
Жыл бұрын
GrizzledTanker-Can`t agree more 👍👍👍
This is one crime that I avoid watching. It's just too hard to get my head around that 2 people could be this evil
@truth4004
Жыл бұрын
And theres 1000's just like them.
@notorious._.g.b.d
Жыл бұрын
I avoid it cause I knew him. Someone I called my best friend when I was 18…never knew what a monster he would turn into
@thanksgreenfield7365
Жыл бұрын
Wow me also so disturbing
@thanksgreenfield7365
Жыл бұрын
No I never knew him sorry
@PistolP33
Жыл бұрын
Just watch it
Not letting Terri off the hook as an accessory was the part I hoped would happen. This whole case just proves once again that Monsters can be total idiots and still be sick, twisted evil and violent increasing the odds for them to be everywhere. And what is with the yellow "blankie?" Pure Socio/Psychopathic behavior, no empathy for anyone except for himself when cornered.
@smartyjonez5470
Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised the Canadian courts actually gave him a long sentence. Most of the times liberals in Canada would want to let him off with a stern warning
@NikkiNife
Жыл бұрын
@@smartyjonez5470 lmfao imagine seeing this disgusting story and still thinking about politics 😂😂😂
@NikkiNife
Жыл бұрын
@@mthrfckroverjones he’s crying about “liberals” despite both of them receiving the maximum sentence. Maybe he can go honk his truck horn and cry about it 😂😂
@smartyjonez5470
Жыл бұрын
@@NikkiNife guess u don’t know much about liberals, do u?
@christinafidance340
Жыл бұрын
@@NikkiNife I’m so tired of seeing liberal this and liberal that EVERYWHERE! It’s so annoying and usually in such bad taste, I find, too.
When she said she freaked out and hit her with the hammer bc her screaming triggered her PTSD I call the biggest bullshit every bc they CANNOT have been the first time that girl screamed. True monsters. I hope they rot in prison forever.
It's a trip to think about all the people left in these people's wake. In Terri's case, I include her fostermom in that. Somewhere out there are multiple people, going about their daily lives like all of us, carrying around such heavy wounds and regrets. It's heartbreaking.
This is very hard to listen to . The part when the narrator said Tori had blood running down her legs and wanted to go for a wee , was just horrible and heartbreaking , That little girl must have been in agony . They treated her worse than rubbish , That piece of sh*t Michael was crying ! Terri is evil too .
@Michael-pf8we
Жыл бұрын
How would he know these details?
@tiffanyrene4737
Жыл бұрын
Terri said it while in interrogation
I just can’t bring myself to imagine Tori’s last moments, she was prolly begging them to stop too😔. I’m starting to think “monsters” is a compliment to these vile humans! We need a STRONGER word!!
@elijahheart9103
Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why some people are against the death penalty! They deserve it more than anyone on earth!
@miggans21012
Жыл бұрын
I would say the same thing but too many people were found innocent later on. The police and prosecuters in those cases ruined it where vile scum like this that should get the death penalty.
@bratchny82
Жыл бұрын
I'd just call them pure Evil.
@elijahheart9103
Жыл бұрын
@@bratchny82 I'm not just gonna call them evil they have to be unalived in a equally evil way. But no justice in Canada
@geturlife1694
Жыл бұрын
Demons
I’ve become very desensitized to a lot of the murders I hear about but this one will always turn my stomach. I wish long lives of pain and suffering on these people
I live in Ontario near the place where they found this poor , innocent girl. It hits home watching this episode. My heart goes out to Tori's family .
@cdes1776
Жыл бұрын
She was found near Mount Forest. Poor little one.
@staceyschumacher8517
Жыл бұрын
@@cdes1776 yes ! I was living outside of Mount Forest at the time. Absolutely gut-wrenching
Easily one of the worst. What a disgusting pair of people.
@janececelia7448
Жыл бұрын
They're not people.
This is waaay different than the JCS version. I love that you give so much detail on the killers, I had no idea about most of the info you presented!
@retard_activated
Жыл бұрын
It really is what sets Jiles apart from the rest! I had no idea about Terri's upbringing and actually, it's pretty sad.... But no excuse for what she did. It's always interesting to know the backstories, though...
@cherrymetha3185
Жыл бұрын
HE IS AMAZING !
@cherrymetha3185
Жыл бұрын
@@retard_activated I’ve listened to him for ages and I didn’t know his name. Thanks!
@retard_activated
Жыл бұрын
@@cherrymetha3185 You're welcome! 💖
@jackchop1576
Жыл бұрын
@@retard_activated "She's a hero and a queen who was beaten and raped into submission. He is the only one to blame." -typical white woman in tbe true crime crowd
I love how they put her on his face and told him to tell her she's a liar and he couldn't.
One of the best true crime narrators out there. No corny bullshit…just in-depth coverage with consistently great delivery. Even though the videos may run a bit longer on occasion, they never become so tedious or boring that I find it difficult to make it all the way through. I’m always engaged the entire time, even if I’m already familiar with the case being covered (which is a rare enough thing in itself!) Also, the large selection of photos/videos makes it SO much more enjoyable than just listening to a podcast. Please keep up the great work, because I find myself looking forward to these videos much more than some of my prior favorite true crime channels!! Oh, and P.S…I LOVE the occasional bitchy comments randomly sprinkled in. There is something genuinely hilarious about snarky personal opinions being subtly peppered throughout a typically straightforward delivery!
Less than 3 mins in and HOW does the court award custody to someone who aren't allowed to keep their own children? 15min in: omg that poor baby! I can't comprehend the pain and terror of her last hours. Her poor parents as well. Sickening.
@michelleisawesome1081
Жыл бұрын
Court didn't award custody. Child was given to her.
@miggans21012
Жыл бұрын
It sounds like Canadian courts aren't much smarter then American courts.
@indiatastic
Жыл бұрын
@@michelleisawesome1081 but then she petitioned for legal custody. And losing her own children should have played a HUGE role in that being accepted.
Back in 2018, Terri-Lynne McClintock was transferred to an Indigenous healing lodge, and people (including Tori's family) were outraged. Government said "oops" basically and moved her back to prison. Then Terri tried suing for compensation for unfair treatment for being forced back into prison. Thankfully she's still locked up until at least 2031 (so they say, unless some idiot makes stupid decision).
@shaneculkin7124
Жыл бұрын
It's Canada. They have tons of softy, dopey liberals there making it extremely likely. And, does 2031 sound entirely too soon to anyone else?!!? I mean, I thought this disgusting woman committed about the worst crime a human can commit. OH IF ONLY this piece of garbage did this in the United States!!!!!!! She'd at least be in serious trouble. God the legal system in most other countries is so completely dangerous and wouldn't work in America. So many people are still alive only because evil bums are kept in cages. Simple.
@indiatastic
Жыл бұрын
Healing lodge??? Howhy.??
@cathy987100
Жыл бұрын
@@indiatastic Who knows, I guess somebody higher up thought it was a nifty idea? Nobody found out until after it happened (not even the victim's family). As far as I know, she is not Indigenous, though I may be mistaken.
@reddogman6195
Жыл бұрын
@Cathy Salahub Thank you for this further proof of the longstanding absolute idiocy that infests the Guvmint of that "canada." I wish "people were outraged" enough to get this gang of cretins swept out the door, kicked to the curb, thrown in the garbage & replaced by those with the stones & the sense to quit coddling these creatures & keep them imprisoned until their hides rot off. "Paroled killer" is a term that should be banned from every nation on Terra. And now up there they're so gullible that THIS can up & suddenly announce it's of Native ancestry, & so somehow despite having the blood of an innocent young girl PERMANENTLY staining its filthy inwards it gets to take advantage of aspects unique thereto, slime up a healing lodge [sounds like the kind of places for victims & survivors] & now permanently stain an entire culture with its ugliness & manipulative bullshit to have an easier - though only slightly, since aside from their bucolic winters lockups in those provinces hardly equate to US versions - time humming its way to eventual unjust release? In less than 9 short years those airheads will do just that, causing little Tori's family reaggravated pain while this inhuman object skips merrily away through prison gates manned by smiling dumbshits left waving Bye-Bye in its dust to rebooted freedom. Except that like the lowest-no-class male it conspired with to commit these horrific acts, it has scant appreciation for 4 vengeful ladies waiting on it: Mrs. Karma & her daughters the Three Fates. Their Divine Justice cannot be ordered up, customized or programmed, only wished, prayed & hoped for; but while the timing is beyond earthly influence - else the vapid cow would get cut down in some appropriately gruesome way before it took its 2nd breath outside - these twisted blisters will 1 [very] fine day or 2 get what's coming to them.
@janececelia7448
Жыл бұрын
IT must never be let out. IT should be used for medical research instead.
It always shocks me to think that, 1) there's a person so sick and twisted enough to even think of something this disgusting. 2) They are so obsessed by this insanely evil line of thinking, that they feel comfortable enough to even share this thought with ANYONE else. And 3) That there's even 1 other person in the entire world equally as evil, that they don't immediately run the other way and call the police, but actually listen to, agree with, and help act out such a nasty, vile act.
I know Tori didn’t have a great mother but I still can’t help but think about how I’d feeling if that happened to my 8 year old. Listening to the way that poor baby died… ugh. Every mother’s worst fear
Jesus. I watch this channel all the time, and I'm often sickened, but Jesus Christ this one is incredibly, incredibly vile. I can't get my head around how cruel and evil they both are. That poor baby.
@teo5836
Жыл бұрын
Did you have to use The Lords name in vain?
@shaneculkin7124
Жыл бұрын
@@teo5836 WoW, I pray you're joking. Yes, oooooow-- I used the word 'pray' Good Lord loosen up!! Oops, I think I did it again 😱
@indiatastic
Жыл бұрын
@@teo5836 how is it in vain to call upon the lord after seeing exceptional wickedness? No.
@teo5836
Жыл бұрын
That’s not calling on The Lord, that’s using His name recklessly, in replacement of a curse word.
@teo5836
Жыл бұрын
@@shaneculkin7124 clearly you don’t care. You don’t have reverence for God. I’m not joking. His name shouldn’t be thrown around like that.
I remember following this court case when it was happening. The police promised him food whilst he was in custody and gave him 0. Made me glad.
@VypaUK
Жыл бұрын
I dunno, could have given him some lead to chew on at least.
@pickledragonrebel
Жыл бұрын
Small consolation.....
@jimmyzhao2673
Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much of the prison food given to him is covered in spit.
*I have been into serial killer documentaries and murder shows way before it ever became a "thing". Never have I ever had to turn one off and come back to it... UNTIL this story. These people make me sick. The thought of Terry Lynn taking that little girl to the bathroom while she had blood running down her leg breaks my heart. I wish them both pain and suffering all day every day of their lives!!!*
I will never understand how people like these two somehow find each other, talk about committing the worst crime imaginable to an innocent child, and both going "yeah, sounds good".
@trickortrump3292
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Like how do you even work that into a conversation? I have thoughts far more benign than any of this twisted crap, that I keep to myself!
@FelineBlue
Жыл бұрын
even if you do have these thoughts, why would you share them instead of just going to therapy
@beno1129
Жыл бұрын
The mind of a psychopath/sociopath is beyond the comprehension of most of us. They are simply wired differently, and so you cannot make appeals to their better nature. If you meet one, don't waste time trying to appease/placate them or get on their good side, unless you're a Stockholm Syndrome kind of person.
@josephosullivan9506
Жыл бұрын
Demons recognise each other, like attracts like.
@WobblesandBean
Жыл бұрын
@@josephosullivan9506 I suppose so. 😞 I just think about cases like Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka, or Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. I doubt they would have ever done the horrific things they did had they not met one another. I can't say if that's the case here, but it's just odd to me that two people with these screwed up thoughts would get together. There's no way they could have known about it when they first met.
Shame there's no death penalty in Canada..
SHE WAS 8 YEARS OLD 8 YEARS OLD!!!! For f sake.
I agree that trauma wouldn't have triggered her to kill tori with the hammer. As a victim, empathy is a more plausible action than murder. However, if the original victim becomes a monster. They are a product of their environment. This case is disgusting!
The amount of work you put into these is outstanding Jiles. I've heard this story many times but as usual you bring so much more details about everyone involved that it's like hearing it for the first time. I usually skip over the stories that I'm familiar with but never when it's this channel as I know I'll learn things I never would have known.
@dutch-essjess1185
Жыл бұрын
100% agree, the details and background stories in these videos makes it like it’s a whole new story almost.
@trailerhood_truecrime
Жыл бұрын
Oh my God yes! I mean I know True Crime like the back of my hand. Though I have memory issues and I can't tell you if I peed yesterday morning or not, if u name off a few random facts about a true crime case probably by the third one I've got it identified. I can't remember shit but I remember every detail about every True Crime case out there it seems like. So like I feel you on a spiritual level about skipping videos about cases I'm already familiar with. *THE ONLY EXCEPTION IS IF JILES IS COVERING THE CASE.* It is always a 100% guarantee I learned something new when watching his videos. On a side note I wish he would cover the Andrew and Zachary Bagby/Shirley Turner case. I've read the book by David Bagby I watched the documentary dear Zachary and have found one article on the web that had a little more information than both the documentary and the book but otherwise every other podcast or KZread video out there about the case just repeats the same things. But like there's back stories I want to know more about and I have no doubt the Jiles could find out all the backstory information and also no doubt he can make it look like it's an easy thing to do. 😉
@alanak7421
Жыл бұрын
Same and I wasn't gana watch it "again" but he does it so well..😊
@Zoey.the.therian198
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly ... I was thinking how can I know so much about this case and equally not know s***. Always a good job with the details ️ ❤️
@Zoey.the.therian198
Жыл бұрын
@@trailerhood_truecrime dear zachary? Is that the one about the mother who killed the father and then jumped off the cliff with the baby?
Im actually feeling physical Ill listening to this. I don't even know how you're able to relay this story so evenly. I'd be bawling.
This one hits close as it is a couple towns away from mine. Such a terrible disgusting story. Thanks for covering.
This is one of the worst cases. I always struggle to watch their interrogations. Such utter evil and depravity. RIP Tori
I was abused as a kid and I couldn't agree more with what you said! I'm super sensitive to kids being hurt and would do the exact opposite of what this lady did.
@MsPopeye65
Жыл бұрын
100% AGREE!! And empathise… Except THAT WOMAN… was NO LADY!!… infact - she was just as much of a despicable animal as him!!… but then that’s a great disrespect to animals!!… peace my friend ♥️
@thomasschroeder480
Жыл бұрын
I never heard a sadder story than that very well told one about the childhood of Terri. until I heard about the crime she committed. I guess she wanted it to be over, to silence the suffering girl and thus the voices in her head. Terri is a monster, yes, but no less those who made her one.
@thisislilraskal
Жыл бұрын
I wasn't abused as a kid but also have a short fuse when it comes to anyone hurting kids or animals. I will not tolerate any of it.
@itsruckaswife7036
Жыл бұрын
Everyone normal is super sensitive to the abuse of children.. honestly - there is nobody on the planet that isn't really appalled by it. Except the actual monsters of course. Even criminals in prison hate child abusers
I remember this case so well. It's amazing that she duped the police during her interrogation--similar to Karla Homolka--which she retracted on the stand. A monster, indeed.
@m.t.1616
Жыл бұрын
Karla is married with a kid scary af
Absolutely disgusting and heartbreaking for little Tori’s family. I hope the men in prison show him as much “compassion” as he showed that little girl. He deserves everything and more that will probably happen to him in prison. I am so disgusted with this story.
@raquelwhite7210
Жыл бұрын
Him and the dumb evil cu**
How disappointing that the death penalty isn't an option in Canada. Shameful, really!
The whimpering in interrogation - I bet that detective wanted to deal her a cold, hard slap
Best True Crime Documentary narrator on the platform yet. "Get the fuck outta here."
@retard_activated
Жыл бұрын
I want t.i.M. merch that says this! I would buy in a heartbeat, lol! 🤭😁
@janececelia7448
Жыл бұрын
@@retard_activated I'm so glad you find this harrowing story so amusing. I hope you find your soul really soon. I believe you lost down the back of your couch where you spilled the chips, soda and lost your crack pipe.
@retard_activated
Жыл бұрын
@@janececelia7448 "Get the fuck outta here" 😂
@janececelia7448
Жыл бұрын
@@retard_activated Where's here? Over there? Over here?
@retard_activated
Жыл бұрын
@@janececelia7448 It's Jiles's line, why don't you ask him? Or better yet, find something better to be offended about than me wanting some creator merch. Like really... Is your life THAT boring??? 😆
This is when I believe in capital punishment 😣 this is heinous
im a mother of little girls and i had to reflect on why i watch these videos because i cant help but shed tears and feel rage when i see Toris picture and hear what these 2 people did to her and i finally realized it is to reinforce my knowing that there is bad violent things out there and although i dont have the power to catch these people and hurt them i do realize i can go out into the world and do what i can in my power to protect and nurture the small helpless children out there. Tori lives through all of us, through small children that innocently believe adults will protect them. I know there are other like minded people like me including the creator of these videos, by spreading awareness and detectives like the ones interviewing these people trying their hardest to keep their composure while trying to gather as much information as possible.
That sounds like detective Jim Smyth. If he starts questioning you you're as good as caught.
My son is 8. He is so innocent and pure… I can actually feel rage rising up from my stomach..usually it exits my fists, or feet.. ..but, all I can do is sit here and daydream about all the pain I’d love to inflict upon them… And write hate mail to them in prison.
@ratchetrock6040
Жыл бұрын
Get him a air tag clip it on to his belt loop 🍻 you will never not know where he is or was and for how long god bless👌🏿
@seans7261
Жыл бұрын
I thought about the hate mail too. I’m strongly considering it. The guards will unlock their doors from time to time I’m sure.
@meditativesloth4604
Жыл бұрын
Idk about micheal but terry beats other inmates often and not shy about causing shit from what i heard.
Names are a little confusing in all this. Terra was the mother of Tori who was kidnapped by a woman named Terri.
I feel so sorry for the girls mom. She was obviously struggling and a lot of people blamed her for this tragedy :(
Them both being in blankets was so annoying; her interrogation was hugely upsetting and his was infuriating. His was however another one of the many examples of Canadian Investigators being extremely well trained and naturally skilled at interrogation. He played it through straight to the end without losing his focus despite being given barely the slightest acknowledgement from this monster acting stuck up and pathetic in front of him. Much more detailed video than I’ve seen before about this one! It was horrific but somehow was even more depraved than originally believed on my part. She somehow got a lighter rap than he did and now it’s obvious it was an equally achieved situation and outcome. I don’t believe that the little girl had bo idea who she was, she probably had seen her before and that lent enough comfortability for her social nature to extend outside of her regular environment. The likelihood that she previously described essentially the same terrible attack and murder she would later become attached to is simply just to great to be denied and so somewhere from the beginning she had an idea of what was to come and still ushered the girl forward into that eventuality, she is culpable abuse or not. No child should be abused but that stands for both those who were abused and those they sometimes come to abuse as a result of that original abuse.. her family did her wrong but she did that little girl ten times worse. It’s like a watered down less attractive Ken and Barbie killer knock off fan couple. Sick either way. Both deserve probably more punishment than they received but bless that little girls family despite their shortcomings, living after knowing that happened to your child is a hell I can’t imagine.
@strawbbtarte
Жыл бұрын
Seriously, I need to give those investigators a kiss on the mouth
@MK1vids
Жыл бұрын
Agree with everything said. You worded this perfectly.
@Sneaky-Snek
Жыл бұрын
yeah i've watched it 2-3 times and he really did an amazing job getting him to look ridiculously guilty
@theappraizer
Жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, I swear that was the same interrogator that handled that high level Canadian Marine flew the queen, with a common dot of that base up there in Canada... I forget his name, but he had been stalking and raping and killing women around the military base. That investigator won some kind of award for that investigation I do believe. And I swear I think it's him who did rafferty. I agree with you, he was a great interrogator!
@theappraizer
Жыл бұрын
@@strawbbtarte 😘
This guy is a whole level up in the evil, disgusting, despicable human being genre. I almost feel guilty for the HATE I feel for this individual. I always preach to never hate to my children, family , etc but this one is tough to get through.
@dewilew2137
Жыл бұрын
If there’s one person who deserves to be hated, this is it.
@janececelia7448
Жыл бұрын
Hate is a valid emotion, so long as it's appropriate and used sparingly. Possibly millions of people hate these two. Don't beat yourself up over it. I hate them with a passion.
@dreadheaddavid4207
Жыл бұрын
@@janececelia7448 😍
I absolutely love the fact that you include the support contact information at the end of your videos. Thanks for doing that.
Great coverage friend Love your content your whole process is top notch Been my favorite channel for some time . This case is truly insane.
This story has haunted me for years. His interrogation is chilling. I can’t even come up with what to call these two. Absolutely evil.
I have seen extensive coverage of this case on other channels. However - you bring something new to the case. In particular, I refer to your comprehensive coverage of certain background information. Very well done. Please keep up the good work!
@bigredswife4646
Жыл бұрын
Being Toris mom im super interested in what new info Jiles brought to the case? He has some info WRONG but I'm as close to this case as someone can get and I didn't notice anything new aside from the hundreds of others who have covered my babys case
@allergictomediocre8989
Жыл бұрын
@@bigredswife4646 this version hit harder.its making us feel just an ounce or trickle of what you must suffer day in and day out. May you find some peace. 💔
@bigredswife4646
Жыл бұрын
@@allergictomediocre8989 thank you so much ... it seems like just when we've gotten into a routine and things get stable round here someone goes and drops a video about it with wrong info and what not and it throws my world into a chaotic mess again... I shouldn't have watched this truth be told
Absolutely love your work, giving real inspiration to us smaller starting out true crimers, what a great style of delivery
I truly appreciate all of the background information you provide in your videos.
I do not understand what makes a grown man attracted to kids its disgusting just thinking of what he did to that baby…. They are truly MONSTERS!!!
Ive heard this story many of times. But HOLY SHIT does your rendition do this justice….. Like the brutality they treated this little girl with is absolutely disgusting. I can only hope that Rafferty spends the rest of his days alone in a cell.
What type of freaking woman could let a man do this to a baby girl!? Yes, 8yo is a baby girl! What type of man could do this to a child! I'm crying my eyes out for Tori. RIP little 💕 one. You deserved the world and the world failed you.
I can't stop thinking about what Torrie was thinking, how much pain she was in. They never mention if she even cried or called out for help.
The entire country was mortified and sickened by these two. Canada grieved this little girl and her family. It still makes my stomach turn and brings me to tears
This really is the most horrific case I’ve ever listened to, very rarely I have trouble listening to a case but this one is especially difficult to listen to. I cannot believe how evil some people are, they both should’ve got life, neither should ever walk the streets again, ever!!! Thanku for sharing this young girls case, as hard as it is to hear her story needs to be told. Parents need to know the serious dangers out there
@yazzleberries_
Жыл бұрын
*Neither should ever ‘walk’ in general, ever again, let alone breath the air other human beings breath. Those things are not human…. It is something else far more evil & sinister than we, human beings, can even fathom or wrap our heads around. The fact that this type of evil & darkness exists & lingers amongst ‘us’ on this earth, is absolutely mortifying & rattles me to my absolute core.
@RealRagnar816
Жыл бұрын
Look up arron cambell Scotland
@catherinesyme901
Жыл бұрын
Bullets are cheap and effective! That’s what they both deserved!
This is Monsters truly finds the monsters. I've heard this story multiple times but this channel really gets the whole picture thru narration.👍👍
The detective that interrogated this turd is one of the best. So calm and direct.
After watching JCS' video about this case, I always wondered what was the story about Terri. Thanks for being so thorough
These two are some of the most sadistic I've ever seen. Now if people don't see the correlation between animal torture and psychotic killer's just take a look at this. Anyone who could place a dog or any animal into a microwave and turn it on is psycho and a danger to all. They need to bring back the death penalty in Canada.
@jackchop1576
Жыл бұрын
Most of the commenters here are calling her a victim.
@smartyjonez5470
Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised the Canadian courts actually gave him a long sentence. Most of the times liberals in Canada would want to let him off with a stern warning
@ratchetrock6040
Жыл бұрын
@@jackchop1576 I mean she is but she is a criminal 😒
@bewitchingstitchingbootiqu2733
Жыл бұрын
@@smartyjonez5470 they won’t serve the whole thing.
@cher280z
Жыл бұрын
@lola type Me too. I feel that the current laws do very little to punished the offender or to deter people from animal abuse. Animal's can't speak for themselves so it's up to us to speak on their behalf. Animal's deserve protection as much as we do.
I’ve watched every episode on this channel. I really appreciate and enjoy. The description of Tori’s horrific last hours was extremely disturbing. I’m so horrified by the actions of these monstrous demons.
Life in prison is too good for them if they did this crime, at what point does something like this seem normal to someone This sick crime has caused a ripple effect on our future generations
Thank you for telling Torri's story with the respect and dignity her horrific tale deserves;I'm always impressed with your in depth reporting of crimes like these. I don't wish harm on most folks but if those 2 crusty truck stop toilet stains experience a fraction of the terror and pain they inflicted on that innocent young child,they only have themselves to blame. It does make ya wonder though...are male inmates or female inmates more vicious against child rapists/killers when they discover one on their cell block? May Torri's family and friends continue receiving the necessary counseling to help them cope with their devastating loss.
@iamV10010
Жыл бұрын
There a many accounts you can listen to of prisoners talking about how they target child killers/molesters for beatings. I forget what one man on tiktok called it but they even have a name for it there. There are people doing life in prison that you really can't punish much more for doing something to these types of people who are in. Now, as far as women's prison goes..that doesn't seem to get talked about as much so who knows how it's handled there.
@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826
Жыл бұрын
A "crusty truck stop toilet stain" that had multiple women hanging off him. Weird.
Thank you for posting these, these make my nights so much better as a true crime podcast listener with a night job. Keep up the fantastic work! You’ve quickly become one of my favs!
@susanmanning773
Жыл бұрын
I work nights also and enjoy monsters. He is such a good and clear storyteller
@trailerhood_truecrime
Жыл бұрын
I'm a night owl in general and I love that he posts in the middle of the night. (For us midwesterners 😉) 3:00 a.m. the witching hour LOL There's another True Crime podcaster I follow, well hell one of probably 100 but for real she's one of my favorite and she also posts in the middle of the night. Religiously in the middle of the night. 'suffer the little children' is her podcast. She's like a female version of Jiles, but focuses only on child abuse cases. Sorry I'm rambling. Well anyway though I hope y'all have a great night at work!💛
@heatherpoppell350
Жыл бұрын
I concur!!! Makes those 7p to 7a go by much faster!!!!!
@user-jd8nn2lq5e
Жыл бұрын
I just wish he didn't have these kinds of stories to tell 😭
@anneperry9014
Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean!!😪
Thanks for sharing ❤️
Love your work. You seem to make more videos than some people poop. You killing it.
I saw this interrogation like 95 percent of everyone on JCS and I can't believe anyone would WANT to do this to anyone. How can a person have feelings to do that? It was so senseless. I have been addicted and got over it myself several different times and never would this cross my mind. He kept getting sick though because of withdrawal..not because he was sick at what he'd done.
@josephosullivan9506
Жыл бұрын
They are demons masquerading as humans, pure evil.
@nicolegath8717
Жыл бұрын
That's right plenty of people get high and they don't go around doing this vile act!!
@unicornglitterfart5201
Жыл бұрын
Hey do you know where JCS went? YT was giving him such a hard time that he basically left the platform. I imagine he took his work elsewhere and I miss it.
@mermaid06
Жыл бұрын
@@unicornglitterfart5201 I was wondering that too. He too excellent at utube giving facts and delivering high quality content (sadly horrific crimes). I wonder too if he is producing anything now too ?.
@MedicinalPoet
Жыл бұрын
@@unicornglitterfart5201 From JCS YT account: "JCS - Criminal Psychology 5 months ago That's a wrap, folks. The flagged videos violate the "violence" and "sensitive events" guidelines. The same old tune we've been hearing since 2018. It's their gig so fair enough. We cannot thank you enough for the love you have shown this channel, and we will of course keep you updated on our next move. Love goes out to you all x" copied from kzread.info/dash/bejne/hqaXus-Nd5PTddI.html
This was so traumatising There needs to be the type of justice where the perpetrators are punished in the same manner as their victims* These are Monsters*
@ebihay916
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's incredibly traumatising, I get so angry and ask myself why am I watching this if it upsets me so much. The trouble with the perpetrators being punished with torture in the same way is, that someone would have to be the torturer, they would then be stooping to the criminals level of horror
I'ma huge true crime fan but not usually a fan of podcast, idk they're voices bore or annoy me, but i accidentally stumbled on to one of your videos a couple weeks ago and im hooked! So please keep up the good work sir!!! You've got something different ❤
I would LOVE to see more Jim Smyth interrogations
Wow every time I have seen this story it never goes into how involved Terri was. This was a really good episode!
I find this case even more incomprehensible than most. I feel like it hits too close to home so my brain doesn’t let me fully understand or think about it. This is horrible. Rest easy with God, Tori. Amen.
@yolandascholten2012
Жыл бұрын
I know exactly what you mean. I feel physically sick. That poor little girl, her final hours are unimaginable.
@smartyjonez5470
Жыл бұрын
This is the important part to take away from this whole thing. At one point this guy had 7 girls at the same time - and they fully knew that he was a disgusting, violent, druggie sicko and yet they stayed with him because he was good looking. It’s amazing the lengths that women will go to, to please a guy that’s good looking - no matter how sick or violent he is. But they then say “they just want a nice guy” Suurreee
@mentalalchemy4819
Жыл бұрын
@@smartyjonez5470 incel detected
@smartyjonez5470
Жыл бұрын
@@mentalalchemy4819 far from it my friend. Explain to me why he had 7 girlfriends with him at the same time It certainly couldn’t have been his personality lol
@yolandascholten2012
Жыл бұрын
@@smartyjonez5470 This revolting piece of garbage met another equally revolting piece of garbage and together they committed a heinous crime. They each took pleasure in the part of the act that excited them, he the raping and her the killing…together they were a ticking time bomb. BTW I would like to beg to differ on one point that you make……he wasn’t good looking, he was cruel and controlling, sometimes trying to leave a man like that isn’t as easy as you’d imagine.
That was a difficult watch,but very well researched and presented.
This is one case I genuinely have trouble with. Bless the investigators and they’re very skilled, and I love your channel, but this one I’ll have to sit out. Thanks so much for all the work you do!
When I first saw this case, I was disgusted by it. It really bothered me to my core. These two sickos deserve a similar justice. Jim Smith is probably the best interrogator I have ever seen. He's amazing 👏
@atomcraft4067
Жыл бұрын
Wasn't Jim Smith the interrogator who got Russell Williams to confess in under an hour? That was amazing.
@tracyd693
Жыл бұрын
@@atomcraft4067 yes! One of the best interviews I've seen. He cracked Russell Williams like a damn egg! It was great.
I prayed when I watched this. Prayed to God to shine love down on his planet, and bring healing and peace. It is hard to fathom how far gone some humans are. It’s is scary how detached people can be from love.
this one really gets to me I shed tears for that girl (and wished long-suffering for those that had hurt her), terrible.
Another awesome video! I love the way you put things and say what's on your mind... it's f**cking hilarious! 👏☺️❤️
Thank you for your hard work writing preparing and telling all of these stories. 💕
Thank you for all your hard work Jiles👏🏾👏🏾
I remember when this was in the news. I was living in Brampton at the time. She looked sooo much like my oldest and was the same age so this really struck home for me.... 13 years later and it still does.
You're my favourite KZreadr, I'm not happy about your abuse but I also feel like it's another person, my favourite youtuber who knows exactly what I feel and what I went through. You're an inspiration and you always are so respectful to the victims. RIP to that sweet little girl, there is no way those two are humans.
God bless that poor baby girl!!!! They are truly sick individuals. How can you as a woman/ victim watch such horrible acts occur and then participate?? She should’ve grabbed the hammer and used it on him! I pray that he is is being tortured in prison every night.
I love your upload schedule, consistent, frequent, amazing content, between you and that chapter I can't pick a favorite, appreciate you and your work thank you so much!
I live about 30mins away from Woodstock. I will never forget how gut wrenching it felt to hear what happened to Tori.I've watched every video I come across on this crime.Your video is by far the best.Well done..I almost didn't watch this because I felt I've heard it all before. I was wrong. Your attention to detail is appreciated.
The restraint the detective has, i could never
oh this case... absolutely infuriating. anyone with such urges as these should just be institutionalized and issued a surveillance handler that monitors their every move.
@WobblesandBean
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. And if you offend, you should be executed on the spot.
@truth4004
Жыл бұрын
They really need to be put down out of their misery. Because they can't be fixed.
@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826
Жыл бұрын
They call them "minders" in Hollywood.
@lorelaigilrour
4 ай бұрын
Now they want to be called maps and added to the lgbtqrs cult