So it turns out that Jenelle's parents, who have been constantly monitoring her social media posts and are well aware of how their daughter communicates, could not make the connection in their minds that "Chris" was actually Jenelle. Absolutely stunning stupidity.

@maritazietsman7691

Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I thought. Especially when it was mentioned that Jenelle had a own, unique style of writing. I mean, you would have thought the parents would pick up the spelling and grammar mistakes? Surely? Either "Chris" was super manipulative or her parents incredibly stupid. I suspect a bit of both.

@onepocketnovice

Жыл бұрын

No, the parents knew this ruse was exactly that, an aliby, an excuse. To blame this mysterious CIA person, they knew all along who it was and " went along" with it because it was the plan from the start.

@Narnus96

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I’d have to agree, it was so obvious they knew deep down and encouraged it by pretending not to. 🤣

@maritazietsman7691

Жыл бұрын

Aaron, yeah that's exactly what I came to realize just a minute ago and I replied to comment saying the same thing. That they knew she was Chris and thought he would be their "get out of jail free" card. Someone should have told them that life is not a Monopoly game.

@wingolamo

Жыл бұрын

Morons. The whole family.

Being in your 30s and your parents made decisions and even moderate your own social media??? This should be considered a form of abuse

@HeatherSomethingSomething

Жыл бұрын

“Wasn’t allowed to date” girl you’re a grown ass woman, leave your parents home omg. This was crazy to hear

@tiffanynot-amused9077

Жыл бұрын

She didn't Have to be there, we're talking about a manipulative 32 year old woman. She CHOSE to stick around.

@mmbell

Жыл бұрын

@@tiffanynot-amused9077 Porsche didn't knew better

@constanceleah118

Жыл бұрын

My 23 y/o stays with me still. (Learning disabilities, just taking her a bit longer to get out on her own). I'm Always telling her she's responsible for making her decisions, I'm here if she needs me. But she's an adult and responsible for herself.

@cisrot

Жыл бұрын

@Sky L I’m sorry :( I’m glad you got out of that awful situation though!

Janelle created all those bullying messages and blamed Billy Jean who literally had nothing to do with it and was just living her own life. Because of Janelle actions she caused life long friends to break up, the death of two innocent young parents, a child to grow up without his parents. Now that's an evil women.

@9teen9t4

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget that she also split up a family (Jaimie is Billy's cousin) but also the ripple effect this had to Chris - the real one who is a living breathing police officer.

Her parents weren't strict with her, they were simply abusive.

@tjls123

Жыл бұрын

How does being abusive negate the fact that they were strict?

@emilyreyes1968

Жыл бұрын

@@tjls123 hey I think you misplaced this somewhere. It's the point.

@WobblesandBean

Жыл бұрын

@@tjls123 They weren't just strict, they were flat out abusive. Frankly, I'm not sorry for what happened to them. With the way they treated Janelle, I'm not surprised things ended this way.

@tracievendetta1908

Жыл бұрын

@@WobblesandBean I bet Janelle knows right from wrong… Not sure what to think about her parents. Stupid is a good start She knew what she was doing. She planned it over an extended periods of time. Fake accounts. A boyfriend right under her parents nose!!! She’s not mentally challenged. She is a monster!!

@sagebielenberg8354

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. They’re the true monsters in this case

Barbara is a clear example of the all devouring mother. Her overbearing protection of her daughter ended up creating a socially maladapted monster. The hardest part of being a mother is to be willing to progressively give up their child to the world, knowing full well that the world is a dangerous place and may well destroy them. If a mother fails to do so, she will selfishly ruin her child, rendering them completely unable to cope with the world.

@sidstovell2177

Жыл бұрын

So well put. Agree 💯%.

@shellyann8818

Жыл бұрын

Very well said and 💯 accurate

@Itried20takennames

Жыл бұрын

Agree, but some aspects of the daughter’s behavior suggest to me she might have had difficulty even if she had better parents. Like her insisting that the couple was out too her due to her being “too pretty” or the grammar/spelling/learning issues.

@Not_Always

Жыл бұрын

I had a mother that was only concerned when she realized that her children were gaining a backbone. She never cared about anything we were doing as long as we were in the house while we were doing it. I ran from her house not long after graduating from high school. It was maddening for her that she wasn't able to control me or ask me what I was doing or where I was going. To this day, my mother still financially supports my oldest sibling, even though she can't afford it and has literally ruined herself financially doing it, if only to have control over one of her children.

@Nitephall

Жыл бұрын

How did you meet my mother?

Jenelle stated the others hated her because she "too pretty." Not her strongest argument.

@GradKat

Жыл бұрын

It’s a ridiculous argument, true, but she IS very pretty.

@8thhousemoonrabbit205

Жыл бұрын

@@GradKat maybe she is but I can't see it past her flat, dead eyes and her show of teeth, instead of smile

@psychobitch61

Жыл бұрын

You can't be serious!!

@jdrobinson3468

Жыл бұрын

@@GradKat Janelle isn't ugly but not pretty at all to me. She does have a weird look in her eyes. The innocent mother who was murdered now she was very pretty.

@internetperson9121

Жыл бұрын

@@GradKat I've never seen yellower teeth in my life. I don't know if you're trying to prove some kind of "all women are beautiful" point, but she aint pretty

Jenelle's first words to the police about Billy and Billie Jean was that "They were jealous of her because she was too pretty" I stg, so unhinged

@lmc2664

Жыл бұрын

I, too, remember she said it in one of her media interviews.

@supaflychik78

Жыл бұрын

Yeah she was sick

@LadyAstarionAncunin

Жыл бұрын

She spent all that time on the internet yet failed to learn what beautiful women look like. Too busy playing games with people’s lives online, I guess.

@jahempress26

Жыл бұрын

I was hoping he would talk about that lol

@wrestlingwithart

Жыл бұрын

If only her parents taught her how to use a toothbrush...lol

This taught me that people are even MORE stupid than I thought.

Imagine being stuck with an overprotective mother in prison for the rest of your life.

@tjls123

Жыл бұрын

Ok. Now what?

@MrsBeBe-de1xx

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@SethMethCS

Жыл бұрын

She has the power to be transferred to a different unit.

@maritazietsman7691

Жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same thing. But, that's all she knows. What will be truly bad for her is once her mother is no longer there, she won't be equipt to fight her own battles. That's when she's gonna have difficulties. As she deserves.

@constanceleah118

Жыл бұрын

I'd be more worried if I was her mother.... Women behind bars may take up for Janelle and protect her from her mother.

I have heard this story several times now... Never in this much detail!! For example, I had no idea just how strict Jenelle's parents were, and the main thing I learnt, was the fact that this occurred over several years, this has not been portrayed in other videos I have watched. It makes the murder that much more sinister and is an important detail to the case. Thank you for going the extra mile to ensure the story is told correctly and in full!

@tjls123

Жыл бұрын

Thats cuz this dude just makes up random smll details in his stories, its weird if u ask me.

@shaniyahm9761

Жыл бұрын

@@tjls123 ? How do you know that?

@thejudgmentalcat

Жыл бұрын

@@tjls123 Citation please, buddy

@angelstarbaby

Жыл бұрын

@@tjls123 Not really...

@cb-pc1df

Жыл бұрын

I've heard one YTer say when they were found the baby was actively breastfeeding. For some reason the YTer said they were shot sitting on the couch. They didn't see it coming. This is the first time I heard there was a struggle. @wowsers I'd love an example. I've yet to hear any made up details on this channel. Seems like you're just making s- up

You know a video is fucked up when KZread asks "you sure you wanna watch this bro?"

Her life was a crappy fanfiction in her own head. She was so "beautiful" that jealousy poisoned every woman near her, and so "special" that even the CIA took interest in her Facebook drama and everyone world do anything to "protect" her 🙄

@postmelon4073

Жыл бұрын

This is what I was thinking, I've read a couple fan fiction that are just like what Janelle made up. They are so horrible and stupid it would only make sense if a child wrote it 😂 to think some dumb 30 year old was tryna live this demented fantasy. Also did she think Billy would magically leave Billy Jean?? How was she gonna lie about him being in love with her ...was he supposed to just go along with it????? Why did she think that'd work 😂😂😂

@Zorobabbel

Жыл бұрын

​@@postmelon4073 😂😂😂

@scottbakanumba1heathen313

Жыл бұрын

And her best friends were stuffed animals and dolls.

This really is a cautionary tale for both overprotective parents and adult children who depend on their parents way too much. Also, don't get addicted to social media.

Thank you for being more respectful than someone else who covered this case. It's different watching these when you knew the people who died.

@sharonthompson672

Жыл бұрын

❤️🌹

I have to keep reminding myself that everyone in this story is an adult.

Social media is a psychological cesspool. If you find yourself editing your life, getting emotional over high-school-level stuff, or have issues with depression, get off social media. It was the best thing I ever did for my mental health

@hellobirdie0617

Жыл бұрын

I left that nonsense behind me a few years ago too.

@Not_Always

Жыл бұрын

I have to tell more people this than I should have to. If you feel like you are being bullied or it is stressing you out, GET OFF SOCIAL MEDIA

@treaisland

Жыл бұрын

Except for KZread lol

@LeanneFowler-ms5xc

5 ай бұрын

But of course!!​@@treaisland

Janelle was highly manipulative. Not that she's such a great story teller but man, she knows her audience. What a terrifying person !!! Her parents, boyfriend are seriously messed up too. (Not very bright either)

@tranquilrabies

Жыл бұрын

I recall seeing a snippet of the dad's interrogation, where they broke the news to him that his psycho daughter was behind everything and that the Billies he murdered were absolutely innocent. He started sobbing, and I wonder how all 3 accomplices cope in prison day after day after day, knowing they killed innocent people and left a baby in a pool of blood w dead parents. I also wonder how the friend feels, knowing she invited this psycho into her life in the first place.

@lonalxaia

Жыл бұрын

Very strange people too.

@joannaw5913

Жыл бұрын

I've seen some footage of Jenelle's parents, and it's pretty obvious that she inherited her learning difficulties from both of them.

@pickledragonrebel

Жыл бұрын

@@lonalxaia definitely!

@dannii2323

Жыл бұрын

@watchmejumpstart absolutely!

This whole family is absolutely disgusting!!! My heart goes out to that sweet baby who will never know his parents 💔

@kenyettaready

Жыл бұрын

Nope. Not the sister. She knew what was up. I'm glad she got out when she did.

@kensirhan2

Жыл бұрын

@Courtney Tally I broke straight down at that at the end, too shocked at the bloodsoaked beginnings to do so, but I hope with every fiber I possess that these cretins will rot out in the most miserable hellish ways possible for how they destroyed those innocent lives & ruined that baby's entire existence, the hell of which knowing how it happened right there around him - the confusing frightening sounds & smells of which, leaving him bereft of the love by which he was born & so ghastly soon was ended, should have put ALL those damn things in the GDMF chair. May he grow & live beyond those ugliest of beginnings to be able to know & give that love which was taken from him, that even so will be with him always. 😿🙌

@Catsss1017

Жыл бұрын

Yo leave the sister out of this

@Spider-Fan006

Жыл бұрын

The older daughter had nothing to do with it she was no where near her family at the time the murder occurred, and if she was I doubt she would've gone along with their plans, and would've called the police.

I lost an entire group of friends over unfriending a mutual friend on facebook. I didn't even really know her that well but in her mind, I was a "fake sociopath" that she "did everything for" that "discarded her" and faked being suicidal to pit mutual friends against me. I'm talking about college graduates in their mid 30's too not teens. I left facebook a week or two into COVID.

@pushinglimits3285

Жыл бұрын

Best thing you could ever do, never go back.! Go enjoy your life

@kkittycatkat1990

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't it seem to be getting worse? I mean that's actually pretty crazy, but now it's perfectly "normal". Now, with everything going on and everything in peoples faces it isn't surprising anymore. Especially be careful if you're a man...feminists have nothing to fight for anymore so they go after men. I don't care who disagrees. I see it and have seen women do terrible things to the men in their lives. Oh, unless you're LGBTQ because then a man deciding to be a woman doesn't count, even if they're not on hormones. Make it make sense. Smh.

@jameshoffman5870

Жыл бұрын

Facebook is not the snswer

@HessKarma

Жыл бұрын

Good on you! FB is an incredibly shallow and pointless experience overall. I did something similar around the same time and dropped everyone except my parents (because of backup due to now living on different continents). Never understood friending people you were never close to years ago or for the sake of "yay same schools lol".

@pretorious700

Жыл бұрын

There are millions of free thinking, informed people you could have turned to. Sounds like you're not a good judge of character.

She said the reason they bullied her was because they were jealous of her looks…so believable

@thefourthwritedjentleman3643

Жыл бұрын

Are you suggesting this isn’t the case 😮 😂

@seesee22331

Жыл бұрын

Y’all are funny 😂😂

@AlexandraBolz

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. And she isn’t even that pretty.

As shocking and appalling as this crime is, I'm thankful that they at least decided to spare the baby.

@Entresol18

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much the only thing anyone can be thankful for.

@realdluvchrist5447

Жыл бұрын

INDEED 💯! You admirably hit on the Most Pertinent Point in this Maddening and Sick Saga. Well Said! 👍💯👍

@rikkiwazzerman3654

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad too. It shows that the father believed Chris. I hope the child has a life without trauma or remembering the trauma. Hopefully, he was too young to remember.

@chadcuckproducer1037

Жыл бұрын

7 months old. You remember anything from your first 2 years of life?

@rikkiwazzerman3654

Жыл бұрын

@@chadcuckproducer1037 I can't find a memory until about 4 to 6 years old. The problem will be what's on social media.

Overprotective parents do far more harm than good. Their children will never be self sufficient, even after their passing. I can only hope that those type of parents listen to this tragic story and learn from it. I know a guy who's 38, has never lived on his own. Runs to his mother to fight his battles. Any small thing, he calls his mom and SHE WILL COME. HE IS 38!!!!!!!! That's a disgrace.......

@LeanneFowler-ms5xc

5 ай бұрын

A "Mommy's Boy!"

I will never understand parents like them. Jenelle didn't have a chance to lead a normal life with all it's ups and downs. She may have turned out differently if she had had the confidence to escape their overbearing clutches like her sisters did. What she did was horrendous. She obviously worked on her parents over time, to manipulate them the way she did. Her boyfriend was a puppet too. Pretty messed up the lot of them.😔

I went to high school with Janelle.. she graduated a year or two before me.. I can attest that there probably were some issues upstairs.. love your videos and pod casts.. awesome job covering the story! Weird hearing a crime story from your hometown.. this was all over the news since Kennett Square was a small knit community..

@maritazietsman7691

Жыл бұрын

Really? It's always fascinating to hear about someone who actually knew a murderer. I knew one as well many years back. She was in a regular school? Would you have thought that she would do something like this?

@thatgardeninggirl2864

Жыл бұрын

I grew up in Milligan went to HVHS met alot of people who knew Billy and Billie Jean Never heard a bad thing about them

@sharonthompson672

Жыл бұрын

I thought Janelle was home schooled????

If only Janelle had spent as much time brushing her teeth as she did on Facebook... 🙄

@Germania72

Жыл бұрын

🤣

@YaLittleFriend

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@brendancarey2875

Жыл бұрын

Jesus Christ. EMOTIONAL DAMAGEEEE. 😂

@daniv1143

Жыл бұрын

Crest strips are your friend Janelle!

@maryw3052

Жыл бұрын

LMAO!!!!

this seems like a smart and soothing thing to fall asleep to that will certainly not affect my dreams in any weird way.

@Sharon_L_W

Жыл бұрын

I fall asleep to Stephanie Harlowe's channel... her videos are lengthy and usually multi-part (up to 2 hrs long per episode). I've lost count of the number of times I've had bizarre elements in my dreams only to realise they were part of the crime stories she shared lol

No matter the story or how many times its been covered…I’m tuning in to This Is Monsters

I had parents similar to Janelles and I’m just very thankful I was able to get away asap. Doesnt excuse her or her actions, yet parents like that wear you down and know all your buttons.

Her immediate haircut after befriending tracy is giving off serious "Single White Female" vibes! Thank you for another fantastic story! p.s. just FYI that is a movie!! 😉🙂

@dappppppppt

Жыл бұрын

My instant thought too!!

@forest5658

Жыл бұрын

'Alice' ......

@tjls123

Жыл бұрын

I can imagine how you'd be thanking him if he said something about "single black female" vibes, but youre right, its perfectly ok to judge and stereotypewhite people

@jennandjuice1234

Жыл бұрын

@@tjls123 lmao wow single white female is a movie. Smh

@arielcooper2554

Жыл бұрын

@@jennandjuice1234 its a good one 2

Great coverage of this awful story. Anyone else find his voice super soothing? I could listen to you read a receipt. Thanks for all your hard work on these stories!

@ShockingDidYouKnowTikTok

Жыл бұрын

Ya

This is one of my favorite cases. Janelle was looney, and insanely manipulative. Her parents were also incredibly gullible

@WobblesandBean

Жыл бұрын

Her parents were controlling, abusive conkwockets who made Janelle what she is.

@mattm8932

Жыл бұрын

Her parents were insane

@omarluyando9353

Жыл бұрын

Favorite cases seems weird to me . Interesting for sure, but I wouldn’t say a murder case could be a favorite in most contexts

Two things: 1 Buddy committed stolen valor. This element really adds to the machismo of needing to “protect his daughter” by murdering young adults and “take orders” from a fake CIA agent. 2 She was “cyberbullying” herself, and if you read the insults she directed at herself, it’s obvious. It comes across as, “She’s so awful for being a beautiful and kind virgin!!”

Wow I can't believe that she convinced her family she was a guy in the cia

@9teen9t4

Жыл бұрын

The three of them combined had the IQ of a beet.

This is slowly becoming my favourite channel on KZread. The work this guy puts into these stories is remarkable. Thank you Mr. Monsters.

“The calls are coming from INSIDE the house”

As someone from the third world, I always thought third world folk were insane. But now after living for 30 years in the West, I realize that the issues of the third world are quite basic-simple due to a perpetual lack of ..well just lack of everything. But the West takes the cake when it comes to having "complex" issues in the land of milk and honey! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@farmerchick3040

Жыл бұрын

So privledged they have to make up struggles 😅 its pathetic

@laetitialogan2017

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree

they should have made brushing your teeth one of their rules ...

@maggiee639

Жыл бұрын

Oh my god I’m dead 💀

@Druzier

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂💯 Damn!

@thefourthwritedjentleman3643

Жыл бұрын

Dude 😂

@jedross2136

Жыл бұрын

They relaxed the personal hygiene rules to make the dating rules less of a problem lol

@user-dz1jc6fy6h

Жыл бұрын

@@jedross2136 bruh I can't ☠️

Her father. The marine/cia agent. Okay, I spent 20 years in the service. I just retired going on two years ago. Number one, he looks like the type of guy who worked some government job and got a government ID and told everyone he was in the CIA. The CIA will not accept someone solely off being a veteran. You do need some type of formal education and diploma. Second he has the look of other military retirees who still act like they're in the military they wear their rank on their hat, it's all they talk about now granted I talk about the military a lot but it was 20 years of my life I realized that it holds no weight over other people now that I'm out. I'm a former E5. I am no longer in the military. He just looks like the type of guy who thrived in the military, the military was his life, and he's going to carry it with him wherever he goes. It's not a fun type of guy to be around. I don't wear grunt style I don't wear nine line apparel. I have a beard I grew my hair out. I am no longer in the military nor do I believe or act like I am. one look at her dad's picture and I could tell you exactly what type of man he is. I'll tell you why because I've met him a thousand times and they all look alike.

I'm never going to forget this tragedy. Tyler losing his loving parents to a Monster just breaks my heart.

I seriously can’t believe how someone can be so manipulative and yet, so unintelligent… it’s rare to be this much of a master manipulator and as intellectually stunted as she was… What’s even more surprising is the fact that the people closest to Janelle were also so unintelligent and naïve as well!

I will walk around doing something and explaining a tedious task to the missus and finish it with “This is monsters” 😂 Love your channel and I listen to it to go to sleep (that’s a compliment BTW)

@brandyrichard6001

Жыл бұрын

🤪🤣

@swistedfilms

Жыл бұрын

HAHAHA! Okay, that's funny!

@8thhousemoonrabbit205

Жыл бұрын

I bet she really gets a kick outta you- congrats to you both😂🖤

I just love your voice, and your stories, and the way you tell them. Always look forward to your videos

@whoisdickieschnabel

Жыл бұрын

Is your name a reference to Dana White :)

@pumpthebrakes

Жыл бұрын

@@whoisdickieschnabel who’s Dana white?

@amyc9155

Жыл бұрын

@@whoisdickieschnabel lol apparently not

@greendragon4058

Жыл бұрын

I've been there since the first time upload he's he ever did and it's way different now wow

I can't even comment on this case. It's pathetic and sad, and to comment on any person involved would just be a waste of my breath. I hope Janelle spends the rest of her life wrapping her "eight to nine year old mind" around her "childlike mistakes". Ugh

@CT-vm4gf

Жыл бұрын

I thought you couldn’t comment on this case or the persons involved 🤔

@TheRealInky

Жыл бұрын

@@CT-vm4gf lol fair point ☝️ hahaha

I’ve seen videos of this but WOW I had no idea how involved and drawn out it was! Over years! Insane!

This is the best true crimes channel on KZread and I'm suprised it doesn't have millions of subscribers already.

@dinogaming1518

8 ай бұрын

Agreed!

I love your podcast, always brightens my days even when they’re gruesome like this . I can concentrate on something else then stressful life and I’m very thankful for your work :) Love

What a delusional and broken group of people. How does an ex Marine even fall for the whole CIA bit? Wow...

I’m 7 minutes into this episode and it makes me think of my little brother, who’s in a wheelchair. My parents have completely sheltered him from the outside world. Kid has no idea what life is like..he’s not a monster though lol he’s a genuine soul. 😢

I remember this story but Jiles always seems to fill in the parts that usually are missed. Plus, I'm pretty sure most will agree he's a much better narrator. In my opinion, Janelle was a pretty manipulative individual and much smarter than what her parents gave her credit for.

@scottm.9382

Жыл бұрын

I disagree that Janelle was smarter than her parents gave her credit for. I believe her parents weren’t that intelligent either

@ooze8354

Жыл бұрын

There is your name on the rock, therefore the rock belongs to you. Smart as a cucumber.

@Narnus96

Жыл бұрын

Haaaaaaaahahaha

@Narnus96

Жыл бұрын

“Errrr got a potato, it’s brown…. Got ma name onnn.” Sorry. This joke with my sister. 🤣♥️ That you reminded me of.

@newbermuda

10 ай бұрын

over-protective parents tend to result in children that are good at lying

The children of excessively strict parents will often end up as exceptional liars.

Yet again, perfect timing for people who can't sleep. I woke up in a hot sweat from bad lucid nightmares and these always help me realize they are *just* bad dreams

@erlinameade2930

Жыл бұрын

What was the nightmare ? If I may br nosey lol

@thefourthwritedjentleman3643

Жыл бұрын

Lol I am watching it to go to sleep - 9:30pm here in Australia

@tjls123

Жыл бұрын

You do realize that the time is different depending on where you are in the world, right??

@LadyAstarionAncunin

Жыл бұрын

I woke up from sleep sweaty as well. What in the world is going on?

@Syv_

Жыл бұрын

@@LadyAstarionAncunin.

How could these fully grown adults be so gullible 🤦🏻‍♀️

Parents weren't the sharpest tools in the shed and underestimated Jenelles intelligence and how evil she was

I think that Janelle felt entitled to people's affection, especially Billy's, because her parents always gave her their entire attention and love even though it was a dysfunctional toxic situation. When I heard that she had a crush on "Chris" that probably wasn't reciprocated, a little red flag popped up. Even in her thirties, she still thought of him and had the gall to pretend he was someone who loved her so much that he would tell her boyfriend and parents that Janelle had to be protected at any cost. Can you imagine the effect this had on his life? He is now a police officer, probably married, and a woman from high school is claiming that he is a CIA agent wanting Janelle to be protected at any cost. I really think that besides getting revenge on Billy for not leaving BIllie Jean and the poor baby Tyler to adore her that she also wanted to get out from under the thumb of her parents and be with her boyfriend. Maybe that figured into it somehow also.

I loved your work on this story, so many pictures I’ve never seen and details I had not heard..thank you!

i watched the interrogation of her BF and he truly believed that Chris was real and the cops truly baffled

@Turk_2023

Жыл бұрын

My CIA handler uses IG and emoji's when I get sent my hits.

@unclefranklin4575

Жыл бұрын

I'm half expecting him and her parents are laughing at the prison guards, telling them that Chris will break them out someday.

@internetperson9121

Жыл бұрын

He was a stone cold moron

@9teen9t4

Жыл бұрын

@@Turk_2023 💀💀💀

Jenelle wasn't that silly. She was cunning and calculating and lied to her parents and ran rings around them. She could have left home years before and lived her own life.

@forgetfulfunctor1

Жыл бұрын

ok

@jameshoffman5870

Жыл бұрын

Ok

@capricornqueen3139

Жыл бұрын

So why didn't she🤔

@juanitarichards1074

Жыл бұрын

@@capricornqueen3139 Because she used her parents as much as they use her. They were financially supporting her and supplying all her physical needs and she played on her disabilities and played dumber than she was so she never had to work or worry about money.

@capricornqueen3139

Жыл бұрын

Yes as I watched the video I kind of got that from her...very manipulative

I appreciate you going so much into her past. I've heard so many podcasts about her and This is the most I've heard about her Before her Crimes.

@greendragon4058

Жыл бұрын

I agree he gives so much more information he's a good storyteller

My mother was manipulative/controlling like Jenelles' mother. Out of 3 children...I'm the only one that left home @ 13 years old & never looked back. my siblings & I are in our 50's now & my brother & sister STILL live @ our parents house to this day with my mom. But @ least my mother now sees the errors of her ways & is totally proud of me for having the ovaries to live my life on my terms.

@laetitialogan2017

Жыл бұрын

13 is so young..how did you manage at such a young age???

@menelaoskontos2553

6 ай бұрын

@@laetitialogan2017 Cant answer yet. The cult she joined only allows internet once a year...( After the yearly private visit from the cult leader AKA ''DaddyO'' )

@menelaoskontos2553

6 ай бұрын

Wtf are you talking about? Your mom was telling you what to do until you were 13yo so she was manipulative?? Thats what parents suppose to do! And for a damn good reason. In 99,9% of cases a 12 year old's head is full of c**p as far as responsible behaviour goes. Your statement and the 22 likes you've got, scares the c**p out of me. How many of your kind are out there? What exactly are you saying? That a 13 year old who read's the comments and doesnt like his parents to tell him what to do, should run away from his/her's home? So that means... everybody! And you are 50 yo? Shame on you! WTF is wrong with you ppl?

I remember when this story first began making the true crime rounds and documentaries. As a criminal psychologist I found it amazingly fascinating but NOT surprising in the least. She was SO "underrated", as many with health or mental issues compounded by a protection wall from a young age are. She was meticulously intelligent, with both a strategic and complex set of mental tools. The level of complexity it took to come up with AND execute this manipulative plot is a gobsmack to many. But so many people do not realize that the the words "Learning disability" has LITTLE to do with "Intelligence". They tend to equate that phrase with "Slow" or "Mental retardation" of some kind, when all it actually means is that they do not well and have difficulty in the "Usual" or "Typical" learning environments society thinks of and that most of us thrive in or handle well. "Learning disability" does NOT mean a lack of, or "less than usual" or even "stunted" in most cases where actual intelligence and complex thought are concerned. Add to that some level of sociopathy and you've got SERIOUS trouble. MAINLY because of what I've said above, no one knows just how intelligent you really are and you learn to play off that misconception very early and use it to whatever advantages you'd like as time goes by. The fact she could think of this and pull this off and the consequences and harm done, is no surprise to those in most of the mental health fields. "Slow" is a whole different ball game, and THOSE people are actually FAR less capable or prone to committing such acts than "Normal" or "highly intelligent" people. Janelle's "Learning disability" had ZERO to do with her intelligence, which to be honest, was probably more complex and strategic than most reading this thread.

@marinaknife4595

Жыл бұрын

What a egotistically patronising comment to post; "... was probably more complex and strategic than most reading this thread...." of course people reading this thread couldn't be as clever as you or even - cleverer could they? That is an assumption & statement worthy of Janelle herself! LOL

@shadowknows8397

Жыл бұрын

🙄

@donnamariedavidson5065

Жыл бұрын

@@deasvail99 😂

@HorrorMetalMaestroRedrusty66

Жыл бұрын

@@deasvail99 Unlike your nearly blank troll account, mine is live, face to face, and full of content proving who, what and even where I am. Why don't you hit the record button and prove who you are to back up that mouth..lmao

@Muhmawmehmaw

Жыл бұрын

Criminal Psychologist? DOUBT.

Thanks for the serotonin

@maggiee639

Жыл бұрын

Serotonin?! From a murder video? Okay.

@Tianna160

Жыл бұрын

@@maggiee639 do you even know where you are?

Love the sarcasm, makes me laugh at very dark moments! Another insane story from This Is Monsters 👀

These videos are truly amazing. They are horrifying and tragic yet I’m addicted to watching. It’s great. These people stories are being told please continue to make more. I’m a huge fan you’re doing a great job.💛💛💛

This case actually literally made me puke in my throat, 🤮what they did was so inconceivable, and Janelle wasn’t as slow or dim witted as they thought, All of them were pure evil, all of them were monsters🤬, Great upload, quite a few facts that I’ve never heard before,👍🏻👍🏻and I heard of this when it happened, Good health and happiness to you and yours✌🏻💕

It's sleepy time. Glad to have your voice and sarcasm to listen to as I doze off

Listened to hundreds of episodes of true crime podcast, and heard some of the most horrendous info, but the CHRIS the CIA AGENT? . I have never hung my mouth in awe of how convoluted this is...

@sharonthompson672

Жыл бұрын

Right? 😆 And why would a CIA agent care about "Jenelle's safety? Protect Janelle at all costs"...???!!! 😳 The great & powerful CIA wants the parents and the boyfriend to do that??? 😳🤦 Whew. Only in America and especially in Tennessee. 😂

I’m awake because I’m about to have back surgery at 6am and I can’t sleep cuz I’m super nervous! But it’s nice to have a Monsters upload to take my mind off of it! Thanks, guys!

@thisisMONSTERS

Жыл бұрын

Good luck with your surgery!

@BucketHeadianHagg

Жыл бұрын

@@thisisMONSTERS thanks guys. Gonna binge both channels while I indulge in some medical grade pain relief and government grade organics ❤

Damn, damn, damn Jenelle! They let you out once,(ONCE), and now look at this mess.

@kirstinross6424

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

So ready for this !!! Thanks for all you do ! Luv from Canada

I remember crying when I saw this case on Dateline. Thankfully the killers didn’t harm the baby.

Its so funny to me how they swear to protect her but allow her teeth to get that yellow lmao

@user-gj1me4mf5c

Жыл бұрын

Could have been the medications.

It's so odd that a person who was so socially stunted was able to manipulate everyone around her into believing what she wanted them to believe.

@maritazietsman7691

Жыл бұрын

Because she knew them so well, that's probably why. She knew what kind of "talk" they would fall for. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the parents knew she was Chris and they thought they would get away with it if they said the CIA agent said it was okay. Like they all plotted the entire thing to protect Jenelle. Nothing will surprise me - they're all a bunch off Looney Tunes

@williambeck6575

Жыл бұрын

She had nothing but time.

I always rewatch cases here with you because you do the deepest dives into these cases. This is the best true crime channel for all the facts....and that shade you throw cracks me up 😂

Sooooocrazy! Great storytelling of a convoluted story. I received my "It's never a mannequin" T shirt. So much fun explaining it to people who ask. 🥰

I knew a girl in HS like Janelle. Except she was VERY smart. Her parents were so overbearing to the point that the mom had a baby and forced my friend to babysit while the mom recuperated. Her parents event crashed the prom. We were going as a group (all girls) so they would let her come. They danced while my friend was forced to sit at the table because she wasn't allowed to dance with no one, not even as a group. We a felt so bad for her.

@fikent5252

Жыл бұрын

I really don’t comprehend what relevance your input has, it doesn’t even make sense, we’re you drunk when you posted it ???

@yque4733

Жыл бұрын

@@fikent5252 And are you a stupid troll incapable of basic reading comprehension? Let me dumb it down for you. A teenage girl who had controlling, overbearing, helicopter parents that NEVER allowed their only child (until they had another baby so add PARENTIFIED) any privacy or freedom of any kind. It was a miracle that they still "allowed" her to come to public school her senior year of high school. Janelle was in the samish position as my high school friend.

@tashibalampkin8555

9 ай бұрын

Parents like that are abusive. They mentally damaged their child. I hope the girl was able to leave that situation.

@yque4733

9 ай бұрын

@@tashibalampkin8555 I hope she did. None of us ever heard from her after graduation in '98. We tried calling until the phone was eventually disconnected. 2 yrs after I saw her driving out of the parking lot of our local mall. She was by herself so who knows. Tried finding her on Myspace without luck.

This is the most extreme version of "Ma'am....the calls are coming from inside the house..."

It frustrates me how some people can blindly support other people instead of thinking "hey, maybe everything they say isn't %100 genuine or true?" It's really a shame that so much got manipulated and made up. It ruined and stole people's life's. Out of pure spite and petty emotions...

@themadhi-hatter6849

Жыл бұрын

You just described Trumps whole fan base.

@rdavidsmith

Жыл бұрын

These aren't regular people. I've heard this story before and I'm pretty sure even her boyfriend had developmental issues. That doesn't stop you from being prosecuted for a crime though.

@iamV10010

Жыл бұрын

I feel like this particular thing has become ever more of a problem thanks to social media and the rise of the influencer. People will blindly believe everything out of their favorite creators or models mouth and watching them command millions of people who follow them to send hate or do nothing to stop hate on the internet is pretty terrifying.

@LadyAstarionAncunin

Жыл бұрын

They were histrionic and got off on drama.

@lainiwakura1776

Жыл бұрын

@@themadhi-hatter6849 Why you gotta bring politics into this? Also stop generalizing people, it makes you look dumb.

WHAT A STORY!!! 😯 It was awesome!! And of course, the narration was impeccable!!! Much love from Memphis Tn! 🥰

It's amazing that anyone would think an CIA agent would be involved in something like this. Ridiculous.

I feel so bad for Tracy. She was just being friendly to a woman who wasn’t really allowed to have friends. Now, her brother and his beloved girlfriend are dead. Her nephew was orphaned before he could form any memories of his parents. And all because a miserable, jealous woman had to make everyone else miserable. Obviously, Tracy’s not to blame for any of this, but I can’t even imagine the guilt she probably feels about it.

So happy you are covering this case. It is such a wild ride & honestly I am suprised it isnt covered more in the true crime community.

@KristenDETW

Жыл бұрын

I THINK at least That Chapter covered it.

I always look forward to your take on cases like this, ones that I had heard about previously. You always add such good info and details - thank you. 😊

I love how your videos start immediately. No bullshit in the beginning..thanks for entertaining us🥰💜

I've also heard this story a few times... But you went into so much detail that I thought it was a different case ENTIRELY! Great detail! Love your channel :)

I love that the “cia” was apart of this. You know her dad raised her with that CIA LIE…

All my fav true crime channels are killing it lately

@micheleshively8557

Жыл бұрын

Coffeehouse crime, criminally listed, that chapter?

@misschievous4850

Жыл бұрын

@@micheleshively8557 check out Dreading & Urmaker so goooood

I love your content. I'm listening from South Africa

I had recently went to prison in 2019 and actually got put in a cell with this woman for 2 hours before getting transfered to another prison it was crazy she told me the whole story with in 2 hours!! She still denies everything!! I never thought in a million years i would come across to here someones story like that... I googled her when i got out in 2022 just to read about it.. I was very shocked!!

To destroy a person, disable them with inaccurate realities, while forming disfigured values.

I feel so terrible for Billy and Billy Jeans family’s especially sweet little Tyler. The emotional damage these monsters have caused this child will be life long and I pray that wherever he is he is happy and healing in the best way possible. Tyler if you ever see this I hope you live your life safely but to the fullest. Live your best life and dream big your parents are up in heaven looking out for you always and I’m sure they are so proud of you!!

So these overly protective overly cautious parents who monitored everything couldn't figure out that Janelle was Chris and lying

What a wild wild case. Thanks for the great coverage as usual.

Everyone involved in that couple’s murders had the collective IQ of 49.

Reminds me so much of by proxy, Fictitious Disorder. I've observed something similar on a much smaller, less serious tier, within my own family.

Not printing the emails and shredding them to "destroy the evidence". 🤣

@codymegehee299

Жыл бұрын

Boomers gonna boom

I've seen this story many times on different channels, television, etc. But it's so much more interesting when you give your rendition. 💯💯💯

"She told me her name was Billie Jean, as she caused a scene Then every head turned with eyes that dreamed of being the one Who will dance on the floor in the round People always told me be careful of what you do And don't go around breaking young girls' hearts And mother always told me be careful of who you love And be careful of what you do 'cause the lie becomes the truth" -”Billy Jean," Michael Jackson

@dinabaughman8731

Жыл бұрын

One whacko to another!😂

@Muhmawmehmaw

Жыл бұрын

Good I'm not the only person thinking of that song throughout the video.

@nllkwk

Жыл бұрын

gatsby- impossible to read your comment…must sing it

Her parents were insane. She was a beautiful girl who could have had the world on a string. The worst kind of monster is a parent who abuses their child and keeps them under their thumb for life.

Best and most informative version of this case I've heard. Nice work as always.

Absolutely shaking with anger that another psycho crush could result in two innocent beautiful ppl, a happy mom and dad, being so fcking brutally murdered for what??