Karen Hires A Contractor
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Since our new friend in the white Lexus showed up there has been some activity. This guy shows up and does the measuring, probably some quoting. But for what? Are they moving the fence? Are they adding to it????
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Lexus guy was probably a lawyer who told Karen that there's no way in hell for her to win the court case and she should just move the fence and make it all go away.
@redzot
25 күн бұрын
Confirmed. He was
4:10 mark...Joanne's poor little captive dog is let outside and immediately SPRINTS toward the contractor and his truck HOPING to be able to ESCAPE with the man...but no, the poor dog has to remain with KRAZY KAREN...uh, Joanne...same difference.
@Cbcw76
Ай бұрын
Yeah... I notice the dog loves all chances to find FRIENDLINESS. Odd, huh?
You said you guys have both lawyered up - I am going to assume their lawyer clearly figured out they are wrong LOL
@patmcbride9853
Ай бұрын
He probably rubbed his hands together and laughed when he figured out what was going on. Easy money. All he would have to do is look disappointed and give them the bad news after stringing them on for a while, without doing more than minimal work.
@TheWestlandgirl
Ай бұрын
Especially if their Lawyer has seen the evidence video of Chad ripping the surveyor's posts out of the ground and covering up the holes. 😮
@5967malibu
Ай бұрын
They should have just moved their fence
@redzot
Ай бұрын
@@TheWestlandgirl Why do you think I put all this on KZread. There is no Discovery process for us. We have everything documented on KZread!!!! Their lawyer can see all this. In fact... Hi Lawyer person!!! you are doing a great job correcting them. Better make sure that new fence is out of the easement!!!! Might get it off my land but the judge wont be happy if its still on his land!
@CC35469
Ай бұрын
@@redzot Love the response
The wait is excruciating. Lol
Closure? Wow, I started to think i would never see the end of this chapter of the saga.
OK, so she's wanting to just move the fence... the question is, are they going to fill in the previously concreted holes and re-sod? It's not just about moving the fence, that action is going to tear up the lawn.
@safaricartvideos
Ай бұрын
I don't think they even used concrete when they installed.
If that fence is on your property, it isn’t their’s to re-use. The contractor isn’t allowed on your property to retrieve it. Let him know. Make them pay as they’ve made you pay. You should use the same fence on the back of your property. But what do I know? I’m just a vengeful dick.
@redzot
Ай бұрын
Go on...
@rollier2090
Ай бұрын
I'm with you there.
@charliespeegleokliving8595
Ай бұрын
It's actually on the city's easement. Which is probably worse since the city should remove it and salvage it for the costs. The 'new' fence will also be 10' further away to stay off the city easement.
@TheStobyReport
Ай бұрын
@@charliespeegleokliving8595 A city's easement is still your property. If I remember correctly, the easement in question takes 7.5 feet from each property owner for a total width of 15 feet. I speculated a year ago about what happened here. It is common, and sensible, practice that drains be located off center of the easement. That way the digger can sit on the undisturbed ground to dig the trench to lay the pipe. So, say the pipe was laid 3 feet toward redzot's side and the work was done from the 12' on Karen's side. Next, Karen assumed that the street drain was in the center of the easement and marked her property 3 feet too far over. As far as building a fence on the easement, most municipalities allow and even encourage the building of fences upon the easement because these strips of land may become eye-sores when neither party will tend it. Plus it's still their land, not the city's. The city only has the right to use it for the specific reason it was set aside. The city is still covered when they come in and tear the fence down to relay the drain if necessary. And if it doesn't become necessary everyone is happy with the fence for years on end. I have a long hedge six feet out onto town property proper. Not even an easement. It would cost me years and thousands of dollars to replace it. But the town likes the look so most property owners in town run their landscaping right up to the curb. And all of it is subject to having a trench run through it at any time. Last year I actually went to the top of my yard and stripped the sod outside my fence all the way to the road because the town was installing a new gas line. I then relaid the sod over their cheap grass seed. None of my neighbors did likewise and are still trying to get their curbage back into presentable shape.
@freedomdesign4688
Ай бұрын
@@charliespeegleokliving8595 The city has the right-of-way for an easement, but the city doesn't own the property. @redzot still owns the property, and the rest of the 'bundle of rights' which go with it. Since the fence is permanently affixed to the land - with concrete no less - the fence becomes a 'fixture'. It's no longer personal property, but is now a part of @redzot's real estate.
'Hope it's not the same contractor who built the deck!
Oh, are they defeated? I hope it is coming to a resolution ❤
@SlackerU
Ай бұрын
The other contractor raised his voice so nope they don't fully comprehend it yet.
That's a realization that you fucked up and you know your in the wrong 😂😂😂
Finally they have come to their senses. Hopefully their lawyer has spoken in the most clear frank way to persuade them to move that fence.......Finally. im so very happy you finally have good news to this excruciating experience to this fence situation.
FAFO, had a neighbor like them. Finally got a Order of Protection against them with threat of jail if violated. No talking or even any kind of harassment. Ordered to allow me on their side of my fence to do maintenance like trim grass, kill weeds, etc. with one day notice [state law]. They Finally moved. Yeah.
@MaSter-mw3rb
Ай бұрын
how did you get that? I repaired a fence me and my father put up. It was crooked as hell. I spoke with the neighbor about putting in a new fence and she was happy with it. I would even put the nice side facing her. Well, she died in the middle of the repair and her daughter moved in. She seemed happy with it but the other day she was cussing me and that she should have never let me take her other fence. That fence was put in by my father and myself because a wind destroyed our fences. This was 4 neighbors before her. I was a kid when we did it and no one helped us or paid us. Not sure how she thinks it was remotely hers. curious to see how this turns out. She already started crap with the crazy neighbor on the other side. Her older daughter and boyfriend are awesome. I feel like she might have had a drug problem in the past.
@patmcbride9853
Ай бұрын
@@MaSter-mw3rb I had a neighbor think his fence was mine and wanted me to replace it after his dog damaged it. I had to explain to him that way before he moved in I matched my fence boards to the ones on his yard because I didn't like the ones on my fence when I moved in. He said it had to be my fence because the boards were on my side. But every fence on that side of the street had the boards on that side because the rain blew on that side and the fence would rot sooner if the cross pieces were always collecting water. He replaced it, but insisted that I not be home when he did it, and he moved one of my security cameras when he did it and did not put it back where it was pointed. It was such a happy day when the "FOR SALE" sign when up in his yard.
In my State you are allowed to build a fence in the easement but you can't get any reimbursement when the utility damages it. My neighbor is learning that now after fiber-internet was installed & they chose to dig a hole for a junction right up against his fence. The utility workers didn't even fill in the hole & they just left his post & concrete exposed which makes the situation even more of a nuisance as it is deep enough to possibly require railings.
Before I retired form metro I saw several property line disputes when I had court cases. Metro is never going to take sides or establish property lines. That is what certified surveyors do. They have access to established records from when your subdivision was built, that include each land owners property. Generally speaking, fences can be built in easements as long as they do not interfere with what the easement is there for and with the knowledge that the utility or other easement 'provider' can come in and take those fences down to work in the easement area. Nothing can be considered 'permanent' that is put in them.That's why I tell to people have plat maps of their property parcel. It has all of your property dimensions on the front, back and sides.These are done by surveyors when property is developed. If you didn't have plat maps you would have property line disputes everyday.
@gwcrispi
Ай бұрын
Our city allowed me to put my rear fence 10' into the 20' easement. There is drainage back there that goes from storm drains to the ponds. So if they need to work on this they can still do it without having to move my fence.
This could have been so easy, survey first, then build
@bill944
Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, some people think that they're special and can do as they please. But don't you dare slight them in any way.
@moparman1962
Ай бұрын
@@bill944, YEP...that would be thinks-she's-God-or-something JOANNE. Hey dingleberry-crazy Joanne...you ain't anymore "special" than we all think you is, and none of us think you're any more "special" than a clump of dirt holding your sorry-ass, rickety, poorly-built fence up...I mean your NIEGHBOR'S fence because you built it on HIS property...got that girl?
@TheStobyReport
Ай бұрын
Why would they need a survey? They had a wish.
@LadyLithias
Ай бұрын
Hubby and I bought a house in 2002. The guy who owned it before us told us he and the next door neighbor had a fencing dispute much like this one. Apparantly the difference was so great that the yard that our property gained was enough to park two maximum sized RV's abreast. It was weird to move in to a property that was formerly disputed. But luckily the residents of the neighboring house didn't extend their bitterness to us. They still had a good sized yard, but our yard nearly doubled.
@jilbertb
Ай бұрын
@@LadyLithias We had horrible neighbors like this. 10' on the side of my house was property line, 6' from side of neighbors house. Came home one day, new fence right in the middle, lost 4' - with a gate into my yard. Hubby took down the gate and installed a panel. Neighbor was NOT happy. Had ALL KINDS if trouble with them. But she worked for the city... so, we moved.
Are they going to repair all the holes/damage that will be left in your yard after the fence is moved?
Lmfao I knew that was that lawyer and obviously he's like yeah your way over the line good job you did it perfectly
this can't have been this easy. They been butting heads for so long that they were right to just give up and have it moved. Hope this is the end of it for you and yall can get back to being friends.
She intenentally used the ground rod at the power pole for a survey marker pin.
Neighborhood Wars episode was INCREDIBLE ! It showed the ENTIRE PLANET ...every country with a TV, What happens when someone's body and brain is taken over by maybe Satin ? You were so calm and cool and understanding and it was just great to watch her show her true colors to everyone. There probably will be T-Shirts sold now that read " kiss my ass" by the TV SHOW . Great appearance my friend, We are all your family out here for YOU. Bless You my friend for all you have had to deal with.
Joyful little Nicholas... serious to see his reaction to a "new person". Behaviour is his voice. That said a lot.
Omg! Saw the neighborhood wars episode. Awesome. She definitely looking to move. Now everyone knows what a nut case she is.
Original cost of the fence with the added loss of a friendship, all the fighting plus the cost of moving the fence.. That cheap fence has really turned into an expensive one for those people. I know that the fence being moved off your property was your goal but in reality, they should have to repay you for the second survey and the resetting of the pin that she ripped out of the ground. I hope a video of them moving it is coming soon.
interesting, hopefully it will be resolved now and you get some peace!
I'd be sitting out there in my lawn chair and a cooler full of beer when they come back to move it. Maybe even a bbq cookout with friends to celebrate. 😂
She will need to fill the holes left behind by the fence misplacement, and reseed the grass areas she destroyed under the fence line as well.
Hello Sir, really sorry you are having to deal with all this crap, best wishes for a speedier resolution to you from across the Atlantic Ocean.
1:41 - "... that's what he did..." "Well, we're I, I ... w'ere going to __ the fence all the way.. .I'm going to give you the estimate... It don't matter...." 2:34 - "You want to use the same material, right?" Perhaps someone else could fill in all the bits I missed
Looks like you can order some big trees to plant in the fall. There going to be room by the fence😂😂😂
That fencing is not on their property, so therefore they CAN NOT use that fence!!!!! NOT UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO LET THEM HAVE IT!!! They still are NOT thinking through things!!! Their Lawyer should have told them that even though they bought the fence and had it installed it's not theirs anymore!!!! They lost it as soon as they installed it on the wrong property line!!! I'm sorry that this has gone on so long and taken such a tole on yourself and the misses! The one a**hat neighbor we had sold up and moved out, the people that have the house next door that moved in after the A-hat sold out is absolutely wonderful!!!! We get along great with them! So HAPPY TIMES around here!!!
@rsmith3062
Ай бұрын
Fence is on redzot's property and therefore his property. Redzot should have his attorney immediately send a cease a desist letter and have neighbor and contractor trespassed from his property. Talk to contractor about pending litigation let him know about bucket of worms he's about to step into and how no work can be done until the court rules or he may be back doing it again for free. Get contractors business card with licence and insurance information, take picture of him and his truck for future court use if necessary.
Oh! Your front gardens look nice btw!
Fence is on redzot's property and therefore his property. Redzot should have his attorney immediately send a cease a desist letter and have neighbor and contractor trespassed from his property. Talk to contractor about pending litigation let him know about bucket of worms he's about to step into and how no work can be done until the court rules or he may be back doing it again for free. Get contractors business card with licence and insurance information, take picture of him and his truck for future court use if necessary. Make sure he know you're taking the picture and that you have surveillance cameras watching everything. You can't make this stuff up!
Perhaps, finally some movement (so to speak) in the fence issue
I mailed them the tape ruler last year. They could’ve measured like what they did. They never measured corner to corner. They were measuring from their house. It’s very basic stuff. Unbelievable. They could’ve proved it to themselves. But they couldn’t even figure that it. To complicated to measure in a straight line. How sad
Hey Z, assuming they even try to move the fence at this point.. isn't it on your property, and by proxy, now your fence? Knowing its potentially about to be moved, you should at least consider sandblasting it and cause them even a greater financial expense to get it back to its original state
@rsmith3062
Ай бұрын
fence is on redzot's property and therefore his property. Redzot should have his attorney immediately send a cease a desist letter and have neighbor and contractor trespassed from his property. Talk to contractor about pending litigation let him know about bucket of worms he's about to step into and how no work can be done until the court rules or he may be back doing it again for free. Get contractors business card with licence and insurance information, take picture of him and his truck for future court use if necessary.
Moving an already used fence is a waste of money and time! Anything below ground level is already rusting and the labor expense will be more than putting in a new fence.
@lycanhd
Ай бұрын
Old frugal people don't see it that way.
When they remarked the Wildlife preserv next to me he stopped by & told me what he was doing
Popcorn ready along with hotdogs😊
@kathleenardrey5094
Ай бұрын
Yummy-I'll bring ice cream sandwiches and macaroni salad!!
Can’t wait for the tear down party!!!
Wow!! I will be over by there SOON!! I gotta see for myself! ❤I still have to come see the mailbox anyway...😉Friday is Aldi day 😆
Is this sti-i-i-l-l-l going on? Some people aren't 'happy' unless they are unhappy.
Is Karen away? Is Jack just trying to make it all go away?
Where I live you can build a line fence but if the city/utilities need to use the easement they can just rip it out.
I also thought it was illegal to build anything within a certain distance of public utilities? Even on your property you have to leave access to the utilities
Now it's about 6 inches. If they grant a building permit and it's on their side, Easement doesn't matter.At least here,as long as its accessible.
Hopefully they build the new fence straight and upright.
@redzot
Ай бұрын
And on the correct boundary
Ohmygosh, Dude, I’ve subscribed but I haven’t seen anything for a long while?
@BronzedTube
Ай бұрын
he was just on neighborhood wars on A and E as well the most recent episode
progress, finally. Even if it's court ordered, right?
Making popcorn 🍿.
@john72ss
Ай бұрын
i got popcorn and beer!
@melakify
Ай бұрын
Popcorn, beer, and comfy seat! 😂
Well, that's interesting.
If they are olanning to move their fence, they will need to get it in writing to trespass on your property to recover it and repair all the damage to your property..
That should be the end of the case when it heads to court. Her survey basically is in agreement with yours, time for her to move the fence to her property where it belongs.
You can't fight a survey. Pulling the markers is only a small fine in my area tho. It's clear they realized they couldn't win. I would go after the company who put up the fence as well.
You should notify whoever has the easement and let them know what's going on. State law varies, but you could be the owner of the existing fence as it is permanently installed.
@redzot
Ай бұрын
I made a video about that but in short I actually found the department that manages easements in Nashville and they gave no fucks. I went down there to talk to the guy and just see if maybe he'd write a note or something he basically told me to get out he didn't have time to deal with shit like this.
I expect all contractors to show up with a notepad with the survey in it. A legal document to use for HIS measurements and HIS quote. Or maybe he doesn't worry about it until the actual planning begins.
3:30 No active brain cells or common scence is part of the transaction to be a home owner. The only requirement to buy a house is the money needed.
My crazy neighboy years ago tried to say i was on her property line. 😂 got into it and the wanted to tie into my fence i was like hell no. So there was a space between our fences.
Jack I thought he was Chad lol
Is this fence thing still going on? Wow I watched this two years ago.....
No more Gatorades at this point? :)
Love it sped up!
Im thinking that going to be a problem trying to use all the same post moving the fence. We will see.
@redzot
Ай бұрын
Oh yes. They cant recycle that fence. They put a TON of concrete in on those posts.
I'm sure you don't care if they move it to the property line and still in the easement (not your problem), but I'm also sure you will have a good laugh if the utility comes in and rips the fence out someday.
to take down the fence????
@redzot
Ай бұрын
Would you watch if I told you?
@john72ss
Ай бұрын
@@redzot 100% lol!
@john72ss
Ай бұрын
@@redzot you know its been how many years now? they think its over because the fence is still up!
@tracycoyne2920
Ай бұрын
@@redzot I would watch even if you put all the info in the description. That lady it nuts and entertaining to watch
@pattyh2410
Ай бұрын
I would hope the guy requires a survey
First time I'm seeing that back corner.... her original issue being that their fence couldn't end in the concrete culvert.... it looks like it would have ended a couple feet short no matter where it was and could have and should have been built in the right place in the first place, no question about it.
My neighbors of 5 yrs are like her but i shut them down when they started the B.S like lady im NOT the one.
It sure would be easier for the contractors if that pesky white car werent blocking direct access to the project.
The contractor needs to fill in the holes and sod the bare areas left.
Recording a conversation could be in some states a felony if you not a party to the conversation. Just be careful.
Man, if this gets some good resolutions we’re should buy you and your neighbors enough food for a cookout. Maybe repair your relationship, from the community. If she’s still reading these comments, we don’t hate the neighbors; we just want a lawful outcome.
So who is the white Lexus you speak of?
They are having a 3feet or three foot set back because that gives the government the right away to work on the power poles . That goes for everyone . Can you please turn on your close caption? I'm hearing impair thank you. I'm from Mississippi , Alabama.
@charliespeegleokliving8595
Ай бұрын
In the 2nd video a contractor repeatedly says you can't build on the easement and it's 7.5ft on both sides of the property line. New fence will be 10' further away.
I would just take the fence down and sell it. Why in heck do they even NEED a fence? It has no purpose.
Privacy fence?
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cicadas?
@stephaniehowe0973
Ай бұрын
Apparently. I live in Maine. Now I understand why people talk about them so much
Where can I watch the show Neighborhood Wars?
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i think a black Karen is a Blaren or a Karquanda
But why is your parking pad above grade creating a toe stubber, trip hazard? Something wrong here.
@redzot
25 күн бұрын
It came with the house. I have a plan for that but I have other projects that will come first.
Why are comments removed?
@redzot
Ай бұрын
As far as I know they haven't been. And if they are I'm not deleting any comments. I don't moderate nor do I delete.
@Super23_Super23
Ай бұрын
@@redzot KZread at it again
My comment is gone?😂
@TheStobyReport
Ай бұрын
It was probably on the wrong side of the property line. We don’t allow that around here.
That was just a lookie loo..nothing done .Now the saga continues for the views
@AmericaWeTrust
Ай бұрын
Just go away if you like him getting views! ldiot
My question is the fence is in your property how can a contractor goes there and move it???
Unbelievable as long as its already been. My temper would have gotten the best of me. I will leave it at that
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@moparman1962
Ай бұрын
We too have popcorn and snacks at the ready...Joanne-schmoanne is going to have her neighbor's fence (she had it built on HIS land) taken down and it WILL BE recorded on cameras and put on the internet for all the world to see that SHE WAS WRONG ALL ALONG AND SHE ACTED LIKE A DAMN FOOL, A CHILDISH LITTLE GIRL AND A FULL-ON WITCH THE WHOLE TIME! No one is sorry to say that the woman is a Krazy Karen and just nasty because honest people call things like they recognize them. ;)
All together now, OOOOOOOOOWAAAAAAAAA!
How many times do you need to be told you're wrong all contractors tape measures all measure the same does she think one is going to be about 5 feet longer than the rest just move the fence silly woman and your dog loves your neighbours so move the fence and give him the dog obviously want to be on his side of fence even the dog don't want to stay with a Karen
I will just say WOW.
technically if the fence is on your property it is YOUR property... ya should sell it... make em buy new !!! or buy it from you!
@redzot
Ай бұрын
I have thought about obstructing any efforts to move it. Then however I thought differently. Depends on who they hire I guess.