Don't be nostalgic for an old friendship, they showed you who they really are, therefore not worthy of you.

@Look_What_You_Did

2 ай бұрын

Rising tide raises all ships. You will ever have the energy to pull society down to your level

"Thats not your property" is clear lol

@946towguy2

2 ай бұрын

The fence is 2' over the property line and because of the 15' easement, needs to be moved 9 1/2 feet.

They still need to reimburse you for the lawyers and the two surveys

@Cbcw76

2 ай бұрын

AND the repairs to your property THEY damage during correction.

@5967malibu

2 ай бұрын

Yes

@kerrymotton1819

2 ай бұрын

They won’t get reimbursed for the surveys because they benefit from the survey as well. But they can recoup the legal costs.

Karen not getting the news she hoped for

@amandawallace105

2 ай бұрын

Can you understand what they are saying?

@knight2425

2 ай бұрын

Towards the end you got the jist of it where he was showing her where the easement was and where she should have the fence

@bordereau1

2 ай бұрын

Darned cicadas......

@cheri6174

2 ай бұрын

Does that horse go with the house? 😅

@scotts4125

2 ай бұрын

@@cheri6174 Just the horse shit.

I like how he gets upset & raises his voice 16:35 "You can't do anything over there, it's not yours."

Those side bushes are where their property line is. She knew it too

@vickiechandler3112

2 ай бұрын

i remember someone else in comments pointing them out when they had a survey down and there was a view from the street back. no one sticks bushes randomly in the middle of the yard so that makes sense

Look like the second contractor know the real thing

@elixtido1448

2 ай бұрын

there are some tells associated with that

@michellebehr7669

2 ай бұрын

Redzot needs to have his attorney get him to speak in court

@gimpygardner3377

2 ай бұрын

The second guy is a pro. They will probably keep looking till they find someone cheaper that will do it her way...the wrong way.

He still had to tell her she was in the wrong several times. SMH

They can’t sell if there’s a Property Dispute, especially with a Court Date set. NO WAY, NO HOW.

Well, now they’ve been told by a third party where the property line is. They have no excuses now. And you have video evidence

@sallywasagoodolgal

2 ай бұрын

I think this might be the 5th or 6th time they've been told, and shown, where their property is. They have hidden, dug up, and destroyed every marker and line, for the past several years. Ever since the fence went up on somebody else's property. They DUG UP the cement marker that was installed. DUG IT UP!

@davidmoushey6185

2 ай бұрын

They can ignore input all they want. Now, you can call this contractor as a witness.

@946towguy2

2 ай бұрын

Not just that the fence is 2' over the property line, but that there is a 15' easement centered on the property line. That means the fence needs to be moved 9 1/2 feet and the bushes planted in the easement need to be removed.

Don't go soft on the settlement, even if the do relocate the fence. Remember the damage to your car, remember their threats, remember their harassment, and remember your anxiety and lost sleep over the whole situation. Don't just make them pay for your legal and surveyor costs - make them pay for EVERYTHING.

@richardw3470

2 ай бұрын

Remember them 'weeding' at the fence and spraying something.

@Cbcw76

2 ай бұрын

Yes, do NOT go easy on them. THEY NEVER WENT EASY ON YOU. You are NOT sparing them anything but going soft - they're older but they can still benefit from lessons.

@yoyomi

2 ай бұрын

Right is right and wrong is wrong no matter how old you are. They gave him hell, they had their car windows smashed, the costs of the surveys, the lawyers etc...when all they had to do was listen. All of this is on them. Plus they implied bad things about you!! She probably still doesn't believe what this guy is telling her either. Smh

@Cbcw76

2 ай бұрын

@@yoyomi And I remember that 'hit' on the car, showing what those folks are wiling to do.

@dericksmith2137

2 ай бұрын

Have an attorney assess a ‘rental’ fee for your property that you couldn’t use because they tried claiming it. It’s great together your property back, but you’ve been deprived of land you paid for for this long, demand to be compensated.

I think this contractor has two things going against him. 1. He earns "White boy money" 2. He's not telling her what she wants to hear. I bet their lawyer sent him for a reality check. He's been more than happy to milk them for as much as possible, but he's even getting tired of her

Contractor says after measuring pin to pin “ Mam both fences are incorrect “ 😂

@mebeachgirl1

2 ай бұрын

I was wondering if the fence on the other side of the yard was correct. Since no one is questioning that side theydid not seem to care. Hope she is going to be OK after she sees her new smaller yard.

@shopiefraccount9782

2 ай бұрын

Ty. 😂😂😂😂

@redzot

2 ай бұрын

Well.. so technically it could be. There is an easement in the backyard as well lol. We have some sort of drainage there as well.

First guy was probably a good contractor and has plenty of work. He quickly realized the homeowner messed up badly and he just left to stay away and not get involved in it. Lucky bastard! 2nd dude showed up with knowledge and a knack for explaining things.

If this contractor had come out so long ago, almost none of these issues would have happened. He seemed knowledgeable and tried to talk to them about proper boundary lines.

@emeraldkind

2 ай бұрын

I don’t think they or she will except his word either. Remember, they pulled up the markers that were put in by a survey company, or 2. She doesn’t want to accept the hard facts in black and white legal print. She would rather listen to a friend that doesn’t know what the hell they are talking about.

@STONE69_

2 ай бұрын

She knew when they put in the water main or sewer line, how and where that easement was. When the new people moved in, she decided to take the easement and maybe a little more. Properties that have these easements are usually cheaper to buy and must be disclosed to a buyer.

Call that guy as a witness.

@STONE69_

2 ай бұрын

That guy was sent by her own Lawyer, he wants to end this fast, wonder why lol

I love it when they tell you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear

Gee...but I seem to remember her telling the judge that she knows the planning commission head and that you are wrong in the measurements

@littleaqua32

2 ай бұрын

But she is the one in the wrong, though.

"all that from there to there is your neighbor's property"

You know when you dont post for months we think she did you in.

@kathleenardrey5094

2 ай бұрын

LOL! LOL!

Yep, we are going to need more Nicholas rolling in the grass!

@Struthio_Camelus

2 ай бұрын

Nicholas is a good boy. He just has lousy parents.

@suzybabyyeah

2 ай бұрын

I bet it was something really really stinky. The little stinker. Highlight of the video not gonna lie

@Mtnred738

2 ай бұрын

I love that little dog.

@SmokingCats

2 ай бұрын

@@suzybabyyeah having had small dogs most of my life (I know...WHY? They think they are big dogs!), I always assume everything they roll in is stinky. The worse kind of stink. Monsters. LOL I love them. Nicholas is just clueless, which is a good thing.

@janpower1104

2 ай бұрын

I would worry about him being on the road. Saw when he picked up the dog by his neck in one video and I felt sick !

That’s a waste of money! They are trying to convince the surveyors to see it their way. But they just don’t want to hear that. Move the fence, Joanne!

Still here with popcorn and hotdogs😊

@ShellL

2 ай бұрын

I’d love a Hot dog with Mustard & Ketchup.

@kathleenardrey5094

2 ай бұрын

Yep-still here with the ice cream sandwiches in the freezer and the fixings for the macaroni salad ready to roll!!

There is one thing I'm wondering about - if they've given Redzot this much grief, what has happened with the neighbors on the other side?

@vickiechandler3112

2 ай бұрын

good question...redzot??

@yvongauthier4409

2 ай бұрын

If you watch all the videos, he does say that they have issues as well. Note that it wasn't always like this.

she is not liking what he is telling her and i am damn sure the attorney of hers knows she is in the wrong

Man, they sure are turning this into an epic saga. What's so important about a miniscule strip of grass? My neighbor wants to replace her wood fence with a block wall, an i told her they could tear out my chainlink and use the concrete base for it. Who cares about inches? It just that much less to mow.

@redzot

2 ай бұрын

I wish I knew. But I pay for that strip of grass so I'm going to have that strip of grass. They are also going to pay for that strip of grass. Just not quite in the way that they want to.

It seems like the second contractor knows more about easements. I guess the second one would be the right one to hire.

Make sure and save this video, your going to need it for court

I think she has finally come to realize that her side yard is going to get much smaller now. Here where I live, I was told by the city that I could put a fence up, across the easement my property has. If they have to come and work in that easement, the city will take down the fence and will not be responsible to put it back up again.

@lindakeating6547

2 ай бұрын

Same for me.

@msack6904

2 ай бұрын

My old house had the fence on the property line, right dead center of utility pole easement....been like that since it was installed in the late 70's when house was built. Thankfully over head wires didn't need fence torn down if worked on.

@danda757

2 ай бұрын

Were in the country and have to get to our property through an easement. Legally we have to keep a 70' easement road for another property owner to be able to access their property too. It is also for emergency vehicles and electric company. Sounds like same thing here only not sure how wide it suppose to be here.

@946towguy2

2 ай бұрын

She needs to realize that because of the easement, there is 7 1/2 feet on each side of the property line which cannot be built on except perhaps a shared driveway subject to being dug up by the utility.

An ounce of prevention...something , something , something. Move the F'n fence. Lol.

@bloominflowers6766

2 ай бұрын

Or...REMOVE IT and be DONE with it.

@vickiechandler3112

2 ай бұрын

@@bloominflowers6766 lord no...they'd take over the yard even more ....neighbor family bbq ..oh we can just use the OP's parking pad...there is no fence to stop us...ha! These ppl definately need a fence .

Next time, put a microphone up on that telephone phone pole, so I can hear bettet!!! And tell the cicadas to be quiet!!! Hahaha lol

She isn't happy from word one... that's a big surprise

Doesn't matter he said, plainly and clearly, that's NOT your property, she will STILL deny it.

Don’t you hate when you’ve been explaining some thing time after time after time, and a new person comes in, explains it and they take their word for it. Oy.

@AtomicBuffalo

2 ай бұрын

Well, getting sued may have had something to do with it

@davidmoushey6185

2 ай бұрын

At work we call them consultants

@shopiefraccount9782

2 ай бұрын

@@davidmoushey6185😂😂😂

@williams-wr5lg

2 ай бұрын

it happens every day at my job.

The only obstacle to Karen’s happiness is reality.

This contractor is a smart cookie. From what I could understand from his gestures that he told them he could do nothing beyond a certain point of the property with out going on to your property.

@Imageloading...

2 ай бұрын

He won't install anything within 7.5 ft of the property line, because it's an easement. Neither neighbor can

@danielcarey2179

2 ай бұрын

@@Imageloading...That’s not true. You can install on the property line even in an easement, you however must provide utilities with access when they request it and if they accidentally destroy the fence in that area, they are not responsible for it.

@Imageloading...

2 ай бұрын

@@danielcarey2179 depending on state, city, etc In the previous video, you can hear the contractor telling her that you cannot install the fence within 7.5ft of either the property line, or middle of easement

@danielcarey2179

2 ай бұрын

@@Imageloading... It’s something you should look into because the information about what you can and cannot do isn’t understood correctly by everyone. My neighbor was mad that I built close to the property line and tried to cause all kinds of trouble for me but the county just laughed at them. A fence in an easement is generally fine, something like a shed, is not.

@Imageloading...

2 ай бұрын

@@danielcarey2179 depending on what state/city/town, building anything, including a fence, may require a variance.

I install fences for a living and have for over 40 Years. It's a lot more expensive to have a fence taken down and cement broken off the posts and moved than to have it done right the first time. 2nd contractor knows what he is doing and it will be much more expensive. then the first one. I bet they will go with the first one out of the two. I wouldn't even get involved in this dispute, it's not worth it for me unless I wasn't busy like in the winter. Can make more money and less labor on installing a new fence somewhere else. BTW have been watching this since the beginning

I just realized two things. She planted plants against the fence that will have to be removed. And she has back fencing that will have to be shortened. Lordy!

Came for the drama, stayed for the doggy!

Just heard that "fence is on his property"

@jilbertb

2 ай бұрын

Loud and clear. And about 3 FEET over at the back property line as well.

@ShellL

2 ай бұрын

How come she’s not SCREAMING?.

@tcurry1531

2 ай бұрын

@@jilbertb I heard him say the utility easement is on Redzot's property and the span of the easement is 15 feet, so it is 7 1/2 feet on each side of the telephone poll. She pulled the original property stakes from his survey and threw them away. She is just a nasty old person and her husband is afraid of her tantrums. Can't wait for the day the fence has to come down.

@stevealkire7626

2 ай бұрын

@ronaldnash5394 *At what time in the video?*

@edgegymnastics8409

2 ай бұрын

@@stevealkire762615:20

I said the same thing as this surveyor when we talked a few months ago. He said he’d reconstruct to subdivision in order to correctly verify the line. Your neighbor is screwed

Believe it or not there is actually a rule for intelligence gathering that applies here; if two different people that don't know each other both tell you the same thing the information is probably true.

Methinks they're prepping to sell. They're old, life's getting expensive, upkeep is probably too steep for them to handle. She's known she has been in the wrong, possibly has to right that wrong before she can negotiate with a realtor.

@jilbertb

2 ай бұрын

That whole back of the house was added illegally as well (the enclosed section, as well as the upper and lower porches. Wonder what happens with that at time of sale, undocumented improvements....

@terrismith9095

2 ай бұрын

They would def have to move the fence in order to sell. But I don't think they're moving. I think it's their forever home and they've finally accepted the reality of the situation. Can you imagine building a fence with some realization that you were making a mistake doing it without a survey, going scorched Earth on a good neighbor relationship because they tried to tell you, and now accepting your fate of losing I don't know how many square feet that you never had in the first place? And that doesn't even factor in any punishment or reimbursements. lol damn lady.

@buckaroo1278

2 ай бұрын

From what I saw in these video's they might possibly be unable to pass an inspection for a loan or prospective buyer. Something about shoddy building on their deck.

@sallywasagoodolgal

2 ай бұрын

No realtor would touch this mess. Everybody involved would get sued (including the realtor) if someone bought a house with an on-going lawsuit, especially when they are clearly in the wrong! This isn't a 'nuisance' suit! This suit has merit.

@cheri6174

2 ай бұрын

@@jilbertbtear it down is what happens

I just heard “All that, from there to there is your neighbor’s property.” He says that while pointing out an area which the neighbor has obviously claimed. She’s got the fence on property that you own.

Knuckleheaded stubborn ego gonna cost them more than it was worth. Relationships are way more important than ego. Great Lesson learned for the people who still live their life with selfish pride over pressing pause to salvage a relationship. So much respect for the way you have been handling everything.

She won't hire either contractor. Now that reality is starting to set in she, will probably go back and sue the original contractor for putting the fence in the wrong place.

The second contractor explained it clearly.

That surveyor is being very PC; asking questions he knows the answer to. In nearly every state surveys are registered and available to the public. We know for sure your previous survey is. He’s opening the conversation but he can already see what’s going on. Makes for a great video😁

Oh I like contractor #2. He knows his stuff and tells the blunt truth. It was great to see the little dog again. I worry about the little guy. I also enjoy your birds. Living in the desert, we don’t have the same songbirds. Could it possibly be this easy? Moving the fence? Keeping the popcorn ready.

@janpower1104

2 ай бұрын

So I am not the only one who worries about the dog.

That guy knows what he’s talking about. Hopefully she will listen this time.

I would hate to be that contractor 😊 The fence goes and the court could decide to impose damages

A, You can't build on an easment, B, can't build on you neighbors property ha ha. "None are so blind.................................." You are rock solid Mr. Z.

Damn that guy was good!!!

The second one. He's one to keep in mind if you ever need any work done.

Methinks the lawyer wants some estimates for the case.

He really did put it to her clear , and she still wants to say she is right

I think you are finally going to get it straightened out!

@rollier2090

2 ай бұрын

Do you really think so ?

@Mtnred738

2 ай бұрын

Not holding my breath.

She said what is that thing stuck in the ground? Ha Ha Ha! How many times do you have to be told?

That utility pole and the wires holding it in place should have been her first clue that that area is not her property. I've never seen a city easement less than six feet in width either. She should have know that her property is not right on top of that utility pole line. Just look at the bushes planted in her back yard. Those were planted on the edge of her property. From those bushes to the utility pole "invisible line" is not her property, that's easement, and she knows it.

These are absolutely malicious compliance type of people. Don't let them on your property to remove it. Damage will "accidentally" occur. Wait until the court inevitably rules in your favor. Then request a court order that states you will hire a contractor to remove the fence, and they will pay the bill. Get two quotes so the Judge sees you aren't trying to rip them off. Return the fence to them as good will, with a stern warning and fair notice that if it is put back in even a millimeter on your properly, it will be removed and scrapped to cover the second removal cost.

After the fence fiasco is over, please keep us all updated the deck !

I bet Nicholas found something stinky to roll in. 😂

When you win in court, and we all know you will, I sincerely hope you get awarded all your legal fees AND the pin resets for BOTH surveyors. And absolutely remember, YOU helped these people out in the pandemic, they called you part of their chosen family, you were nice about EVERYTHING you had any interaction with them on, they forced you to have to go the hard route. If you forgive them, please don’t forget they turned on you. Viciously. Forgive and forget: forgive them then forget about them. They are takers.

those bugs are something else.....the cicadas are pretty annoying too :D

Enjoying every second. Thanks for the update. Keep them coming.

Well JoAnne, deal with it. 😂

I would hire this guy. He clearly has knowledge and patience. He took the time to explain things in what looks like simple terms they should be able to understand. He clearly recognized the errors. I would trust him to do the job correctly. But then I have had crappy luck picking contractors for anything.

Joanne eating a big ole piece of humble pie

I don't know that they'll hire either of them because both told them they were wrong. It's going to take a court to force them to do what's right.

I hope he was paid before he started!!! Hahaha lol

Joanne doesn't own it, Joanne doesn't own it...neener, neener! I mean, just off the top of my neener...I mean my head. Lol

Too bad the fence doesn't have a long series of built-in microphones. I wonder if he's given them an estimate at THIS meeting for moving the fence AND repairing YOUR property.

@Cbcw76

2 ай бұрын

That looks like ?? 4 feet ??

Those neighbors made things difficult for themselves by not following the rules , building codes , and using common sense . It seems they think they can do whatever they want because they’re property owners !!!

Looks like this might be finally coming to a close after all this time. She knows damn well she messed up and that the fence is gonna have to come out altogether.

Been following this international incident with interest from this side of the pond. Been very entertaining for me, but I can only imagine how frustrating it's been for you to have to deal with and waste your time on. Totally unnecessary extra headache. Hope it's resolved soon and you can get on with your life (lives) peacefully and happily. Good luck!

My bet is she'll hire the first guy. She won't trust the second guy and she thinks she can make the first guy do her bidding.

Now she will blame it all on the fence guys for putting the fence up on her neighbors property, while she actually stood out there the whole time and told them exactly where to put it and when the neighbor told them they were on his property she screamed and screamed.

It’s not a realtor they have to worry about. The county won’t record the change of ownership if there outstanding issues, such as non-permitted construction, or known property encroachment.

@clydeleigh3266

2 ай бұрын

While there is a lawsuit ongoing, they would never be able to get new title insurance. No mortgage company would give a mortgage without title insurance.

where i live in oregon, when i put my picket fence in, i had to offset my fence to be at least 2 foot away from all sides of a power pole thats at the edge of my property. their original fence wouldnt fly right from the start, and the fence companies know the rules.

Cicadas, my condolences to your vegetation

She intenentally used the ground rod at the power pole for a survey marker pin.

"Your neighbor's property.... It's not yours." Followed by explaining the easement: 'Their' property but they can't build on it. Betcha the 'friend inna Lexus' was their attorney. If so, appears he had a come-to-Jesus conversation with them. How much time, money & grief would have been saved (by YOU) had they simply listened in the first place. Can't change that, just ruminating on it. I hope if they do move the fence, you're able to pursue relief for your legal expenses & other direct costs (McK's car damage & ?) plus SOMETHING for pain & suffering. Money never fully compensates for that but is better than nothing / more insults. Looking forward to the fence getting up and walking closer to their house (with help).

I really hope they’re selling their place! I know how it feels to live in that chaotic environment 😢 Hopefully you’ll have a resolution to this very soon. 🙏🏼

Is your episode of neighbourhood wars available on youtube?

They will go with number 2. They messed up and they know it needs fixed correctly. It must suck to be them.

Thought he was running away there for a minute.

They can build in an easement all day long. A utility can tear up their work then seed and straw all day long also.

@STONE69_

2 ай бұрын

No you can't build on an easement, for one simple reason, she does not own the easement.

Clearly contractor #2. He showed her the property line, explained how an easement works, and even showed her how far she'd have to move that fence. Good job! At least I think so. Audio was hard to make out sometimes. That said, I never understood people that try to steal something, then attempt to justify it when they're caught... and get mad at their would-be victim when they aren't allowed to keep what they tried to steal. Like it's their victim's fault. smh PS I also don't understand why it's taking so long to get that fence off your property. Surveys were done. Property line is even or record. The easement is surely on record. Should take five minutes to review and then order the fence removed... but yet it continues. Great drama though! Wishing you the best!

I used to be a fence contractor. In the city/county I worked in, you could put a fence on the property line in an easement. If they had to come and work in that easement, they would remove the fence and replacement is on you.

Joanne simply does not want to hear the truth, no matter how many times it is told to her. In other words, "my mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts!" is her attitude.

I've had a few people do this to me over the years. Set up a meeting and proceed to pick my brain for ideas and even when I tell them it won't work or isn't legal they continue on and on. I think she's just trying to find someone to talk to lol

There's no fool like an old fool.

*I predict they will remove the fence before having to shoulder the cost of having a lawyer appear on their behalf in court on a losing case.*

I’m really enjoying this😂

I think the fence is going to disappear or get moved soon. For either 1. Lawyer says they are in the wrong and coild get ugly. Or 2. They are looking to move and need to clean up the mess. Either way i agree someones getting hired.

She owes you an apology

I hope she goes with the second guy. He seems like he's experienced and knowing the situation, wants to make it correct especially in regards to the easement. Their lawyer has already made them realize the error of their ways. Too bad it cost them everything. I'd love to know how many square feet you'll be reclaiming once it's moved.

@stevealkire7626

2 ай бұрын

*Who was the first guy that dude who was wandering around the other day?*

I think the guy with the nice car, that was there previously, might have been the Lawyer. He probably evaluated the situation and sent this Contractor to explain it all to her and give him a full report. The Lawyer will tell her at a later meeting, that this case is not worth going forward with. ...I had argued with people in the comments months ago, that the fence should not even be on the Easement at all, and obviously not on your property, The Easement is Government property.

@redzot

2 ай бұрын

Yeah. My hope is that they move the fence to where it's supposed to be not where she wants it. She wants it on the property line. Well we can't always hear the conversations that are happening you can certainly tell by the body language. I got another video coming out tomorrow where that's exactly the case.

On I think the lawyer that was out previously gave her some news she didn't want to hear

I think she will get another contractor out there for a quote. Then she will decide. I believe she will definitely move the fence, but will do it right. Otherwise, she knows she will owe you more money! ✌️

@littleaqua32

2 ай бұрын

And maybe an apology from her too

@Mtnred738

2 ай бұрын

I suspect it will be a cold day in hell before she apologizes.