How a Narcissistic “That Guy" DESTROYED My First D&D Game (10K Special) - RPG Horror Stories
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Hope you guys enjoy this. Certainly feels great to finally get it off my chest. Honestly, it happened so long ago. I hope Wizard is doing better now. Who knows?
RPG Horror Stories is a series where I read through stories from the subreddit r/rpghorrorstories and give advice on how to avoid the issues that lead to such stories in the first place.
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0:00 - Intro
0:48 - My Worst Horror Story
19:16 - Origin of Crispy's Tavern
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"He never missed a session. He was always right on time, which is a great thing to have in a player... *that you actually like.*" God, I felt that.
@hertzyscowicz7066
2 жыл бұрын
It's like a variant of Murphy's law for TTRPG:s: That Guy is always on time. Makes me worry about my own punctuality, to be honest.
@EustaBAracer
2 жыл бұрын
@@hertzyscowicz7066 you know the saying, if you aren't 3 hours early.....you probably have friends.
@TheNormExperience
2 жыл бұрын
@@EustaBAracer oh I’m using that in the future! 😂
@littlepeach2010
2 жыл бұрын
So did I, We have a That Guy at our Table. he's on his last warning, I give him a week.
“I wanna be the BBEG!” Every time I had someone want to do this, I’d allow it. And then smirk as the rest of the group would monkeystomp their ‘BBEG’ because they were the same stats as the party.
@360entertainment2
Жыл бұрын
That’s smart, I dig it!
"Okay, [NAME], calm down" is actually the worst thing to say when I'm excited, that just turns my dials up to 11.
@hollowblaze2320
2 жыл бұрын
If someone ever said that to me. That person will most likely never be near me when I enjoy something.
Crispys subs: "omg that guy sounds awful! What a terrible player!" Also crispys subs: "...did we say stop? Tell us more of this monster"
@ratboy2
Жыл бұрын
for real 😭 me too tho. wonder if he ever talked about it again
You should of had strahd say yes, turn him into a vampire and tell him to roll another character. I almost did this to one of my players but not because he was a problem player. I made it clear that vamp spawn were slaves and he still thought strahd would let him continue adventuring after I turned him.
@Jubilation457
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly with how often he was actively screw over the rest of the party I’m surprised the rest of the players didn’t take matters into their own hands if you get what I mean, course I would want to be sure to clear it with the DM first.
@theeye8276
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jubilation457 ya. I personally try to avoid pvp as much as possible so I can kinda see why they didn't
@Vahktang
2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts precisely. Great minds think alike. 😁
@kbub1234
2 жыл бұрын
The book recommends you do this too! Strand is supposed to tempt and double cross the most selfish party members as he toys with them.
A person hating any type of loss in CoS…. What a lovely combination
@catandrobbyflores
2 жыл бұрын
Laughs in Barovian
@treyatkinson7564
2 жыл бұрын
I think that would be an interesting character flaw to play into. Where they are slowly worn down by the fact that there is almost no way to never lose something, anything, in Barovia
@ozpin8329
2 жыл бұрын
@@treyatkinson7564 our paladin is currently going through that and it's fun for everyone
"You need to add more moral grey." I think that is a mark of future psychopath someone who complains about the existence of morality.
*mentions "that guy"* *that guy mentions League of Legends* Yeah that checks out
I had a player, after I had laid out the plot in the module adventure we were running (SKT) say: "I don't care, does anybody care? I guess we'll just do it because it's clearly the main plot." That was very soul destroying for me as a DM. It was also the point I decided I wasn't going to run modules anymore.
@yvaineanwell9968
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I get that. I have a friend whose character just didn't care about anything. Emotionally-charged moments? She didn't care. Familiarizing herself with the NPCs that took the party in? Didn't give a shit about them. I felt like she had to be bored, but her cold, emotionless ex-Yakuza just did. Not. Care. In fact, she was busy thinking of ways to abandon the group that had agreed to help them in the first place. One of the other players was also very passive and didn't do much, and since I had three players total, this was basically me engaging one guy. Long story short, I just let the game quietly fade away after a few months. I wasn't about to keep putting all the effort that went into planning a session in for people that weren't even invested.
Playing ghost of Tsushima. I see you're a man of culture
"I have no text" What... did you just tell this story with no pre-written script? Jesus dude, I couldn't do that without stuttering my ass off Also, I can't help but wonder what this guy's home life was like, I doubt he became the person he was from nothing, and Parents can very easily teach their kids the attitudes this guy had.
@CrispysTavern
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, every video on this channel (with the exception of the stories themselves) is done without a script. Just tons of cuts to get rid of my flubs.
Oh yeah, we had a spotlight hogging dude who created a really hostile environment where you had to be able to shout louder than everyone else to get a word in. That's because he always talked over others to do whatever dumb shit crossed his mind, like his character was an embodiment of intrusive thoughts.Anyways, after fighting with the DM for like 20 minutes over a hypothetical that A: no one else was else was interested in and B: would never be utilized in-game, and following that up with the session immediately after, we decided to kick him because virtually everybody in the campaign wanted him gone. What did he do? Well, he had a magical compass which was given to him by a goddess, Mistra. He actively did not respect anyone, including gods, so he decided to smash it against a rock as everyone else was deciding what they wanted to do. In response, the compass basically became a ticking time bomb which he threw into a portal to nuke my homeworld, completely servering any way in and leaving 200x200 ft sphere hole around. Then, he was taken to what was basically god court, where his goddess had to fight for his innocence while also not wanting to be there. It was a really funny scene bc everyone in the party either tried, and failed, to find a redeeming quality with his character, or just talked shit about him with the goddess. Ok I was not expecting to write this much... anyways you inspired me to help the DM kick him and we immediately after had a great session with lots of fun rp.
@decayingfairy3996
2 жыл бұрын
Oh, he also started avoiding talking to us except on the day I took off bc mental health stuff so thats fun
@cloneryman3748
2 жыл бұрын
If you have any examples of the court I'd love to hear it
@decayingfairy3996
2 жыл бұрын
@@cloneryman3748 Juno, a golden Summer Eladrin Elf Ranger, went first anf they talked for like 5 minutes about how he had such audacity as a cishet man and hes so gross and basically just the typical straight white dude lmao
@goncalocarneiro3043
2 жыл бұрын
As much as it sounds more than reasonable to kick out and not want to play with someone that just cannot ever read the room, talks over others and sandbags the party, presumably on purpose... I wouldn't think having a character mock the person's character for being a heterosexual human would be the thing that needs five minutes of ranting. Is the elf ranger "speciest" or something? I guess it works if the setting is against humans, I think I have heard of settings that dislike humans with them being considered "horrid and unpure blobby mixes of all races"...
This is why I haven't DM'd yet. I'm worried I'd kick players straight away or not quickly enough. 10,000 subs is amazing, keep it up mate
@alexinfinite7142
2 жыл бұрын
Best method to avoid kicking players is to talk to your players first. I'm not great as a DM (were all noobs) but I flat out told them: look at everyone at the table here. This is your team and you need to look out for them. Because if you don't, you're going to die. No one is going to save you from being surrounded and butchered if you treat them poorly. And vice-versa. You guys NEED to look out for each other. Otherwise this will fall apart in a very fast party wipe. This got them sitting upstraight. I told them I wouldn't be unfair but I wouldn't hold back. I'm proud of how much they took this to heart
@Arcticmaster1190
2 жыл бұрын
Try to talk to your players as much as you can manage. Trust your instincts and read the room often. Are you having fun? Are your other players having fun with the things going on? If the answer to either of those is no, it’s time to sit everyone down (or at least who you suspect is at fault), then take whatever action is necessary. Repeat as necessary until a kick becomes an obligation or the reprimanding is applied.
This guy reminds me of my brother. Whenever I would beat him in competitive video games he would get super salty and yell at me to stop smiling. Every. Time. I eventually got tired of it and just let him win. I regret that to this day.
@goncalocarneiro3043
2 жыл бұрын
Sheesh... Well, I wouldn't play with them anymore.
Guys, I’m in my 30s, and I’m here to impart some wisdom. If you are having fun with something, and it’s not hurting anyone, just do it. Don’t worry about some dork trying to shame you. “…calm down, Crispy.” Just tell them “no”, and keep going.
Can I just say, this is the first I've heard you're asexual (I don't know if you've ever mentioned it in any of your other videos or not) but I had an inkling, and I am proud. This is the first time I've sensed another asexual XD
@WyvernTheLost
2 жыл бұрын
Like spidey senses, but for ace folks :}
@mewukki
2 жыл бұрын
I thought bc of some comment in other videos but I didn't want to assume, so happy I was right!
I know the same feeling you were going through. I had a friend I knew since Kindergarden (I changed schools for a time and reconnected a few years later) and I considered him a dear friend, but he always had anger issues and toxic behaviors. I unfortunately, let it slide for years until college when him along with a few other friend and I started chatting through discord. I was starting to see him for what he was and called him out on it, and he seemed to get the message and for the next few years tried to improve, or so I thought. No matter what programs or groups he went to he just could not believe that he had a problem, and just like that I ghosted one of my oldest friends. I felt both heavy and relived at what I done but overtime I relized how petty, controling, and toxic he actually was. I just wish I could seen it earlier, but hindsight is 20/20.
@goncalocarneiro3043
2 жыл бұрын
I know how that is... Tragic, isn't it? Perhaps the worst part is the doubt you sometimes have that you could be wrong, or perhaps the pity that they don't know what's wrong with them and have no self awareness.
@ebenezerboateng5915
2 жыл бұрын
@@goncalocarneiro3043 the thing is when I first realized who he was, I gave chance after chance to improve, but he just couldn't. So I cut him out while I was on vacation before covid, and that was that
I have no text. Congrats, my dude! It couldn't happen to a better plague rat
I hope we get more stories about this guy, he's quite entretaining to listen about lol But sorry you had to deal with him in so many bad experiences, however I'm glad you can look back now and laugh.
My man said “Ten Thousand Subscribers” like “TWENTY EIGHT STAB WOUNDS”
This makes me want to post my own horror story, probs will today
The "I want to be the main character" vibes but make it evil
CONGRATS CRISPY! You deserve it!!
In D&D there really aren't any "win/loss" scenarios short of a TPK. It's more successes and failures.
been playing this game for almost 30 years, and i have to say you've way more patience than any one GM i've ever met/played with/gm'ed for should have. cheers. congratz on 10k!!
Looking back on this after the jackass contacted Crispy about a week ago, trying to complain about how he has no friends shows how little he's changed after all this time
It makes me ridiculously happy to learn that you make music because you enjoy doing it, with no worries about whether you are good or not. I appreciate the way you engage with these horror stories. You don't just react, you reflect on how to handle bad behavior, how to recognize redflags, and reminding all of us that we don't have to put up with it. You are inspiring to me as a long term player who is finally trying my hand at DMing. Thank yoh, and keep it up!
I wouldn't mind hearing another story about this obnoxious Wizard you knew. As long as it isn't upsetting for you to talk about at least! If it's cathartic, let the stories roll. Haha
Honestly the guy from the first story sounds perfectly matched for the wizard. Both equally insufferable in different ways
Scorching Ray is a 2nd lv spell that fires 3 rays and deals 2d6 per ray not 1d6, he actually inadvertently nerfed himself
Congrats on 10,000 subs. You're already head and shoulders above the rest of the RPG horror story content creators, and you keep on going strong.
The moment crispy said "League of Legends" was like a brick to my face
@CrispysTavern
Жыл бұрын
Imagine how I felt
Telling the DM out of character to calm down when they do their villainous monologue? Oh boy. If I am ever the DM in that situation it would trigger the phase "YOU'VE SEEN MY EVIL MONOLOGY, BUT NOW PREPARE FOR MY ANGRY ASS ACTIONS!" and they would not be in my campaign for much longer.
My sympathies, "Wizard" was a genuine psychopath. I known my fair share of this kind of people, but "Wizard" beats them all, he is definetly the most awful kind of person. At first glance would people maybe think that "Wizard" just had to many setbacks in life and just wanted to have some better times. But his complete lack of empathy and reality says it all. This is a walking catastrophy.
As a semi-former viola player who's been bingeing Crispy's videos for the past month, I was listening along while I worked (spotlight hog yada yada, not supporting other players sure thing, playstyle pushing away other players, uh huh) but my head SNAPPED around when he came into a practice room, interrupted your practicing, and then stole your stand
I’m sorry you went through this experience. However, if you didn’t, we wouldn’t have your channel to listen to, so in my own selfish way, I’m thankful for it ^^
Just wanted to say that I'm a much better player then when I first started 3 years ago thanks to people like you and critcrab reading these horror stories and giving advice after them so thank you for being here
I think this is a good example of how the social aspect of these stories is really important. It's easy to hear about this guy's behaviour and say you should have done this or that but that's just not how social interactions work irl.
see, I wanted to play a character who intended to ally himself with strahd, and came to barovia to do that. what I did was tell the DM during the character pitch and make it clear that he still cared about the other PCs and would not attack him. he ended up turned into a full vamp, and is the party's main healer, who wouldn't leave them for anything even as he follows strahds orders. it's led to some good in character tension and role-play, especially as everyone knows and is trying to figure out why he'd do that! so it's possible and fun to work with strahd, but make sure everyone is on board first.
@pumpkinicing
Жыл бұрын
would not attack them*. he might attack strahd. who knows
Should have made him roll for Persuasion against Straud, tell him in advance he has to pass two high checks with Disadvantage
Congratulations on 10,000!!! Holy crap that is so awesome!! The guy in this story...OOF! Man, you were so patient with him. But yeah, he definitely is the sort of player that just needs to go.
Sure, let´s cram this entirely different and hugely complex setting into an existing one. I am personally not a huge fan of Curse of Strahd either but that seems a bit much.
If it's cathartic for you, then YESSSS give is more
More of Crispy’s “that guy” please? 🥺
I mean, my group had double crossers in my COS campaign that finally ended after basically getting nowhere due to us just Scooby Dooing out way through the campaign and avoiding all plot points and pissing almost everyone off in Barovia. At that point we just said screw it, some party members joined Strahd and became his new lieutenants while the rest of us got the shit kicked out of us and finally thrown out of Barovia. Honestly our last session was one of the most beautiful messes i have ever had in all my years playing ttrpgs lol. Our DM realized that this group just doesn't do modules so he's cooking up an homebrew campaign that would better cater to this groups style, which I'm excited for. This seems to be the few times getting double crossed by other party members didnt piss me off. Like when you plan to screw over your party, its up to both player and DM to make sure it still works out for everyone or you're probably looking at losing most of your table. I mean, if screwing over other players is your shtick, play another game, like VtM or Munchkin. But seriously congrats on the channel growth, you're one of my favorite content creators. And, yeah kicking this guy was the right decision
I would just not count any of the"instant pickup" dice rolls. Until they start to get wise and quickly pick up bad rolls. Then they just fail.
Worst experience (I am new thank goodness) was with a Adventures guild DM surprisingly. I was new, don’t have any serious games in my belt so wanted to learn and made sure with PMs to let him know I was a new DnD player and role 20 user. They completely forgot I was greener then grass so they forgot I was on his list or to put me on a beginner’s session. In the end they would act all frustrated to why I don’t tell him I don’t as new to roll 20 ( when again we had a whole personal convo by mail a week before). Thanks to a casual group, I am a better player now.
On the scorching ray thing, if he was completely new he could've got it mixed up with Ray of frost which does 1 d8. It has ray in the name too, so its possible lol. But hey thats not too bad if he changed the damage to 1d8 cause its supposed to be 2d6 per ray so really he hurt himself more than anything.
I just have to sit here and boggle at the fact that your player legit wanted to be the Ruined King.
Only player ive ever wanted out of a game was largely because they were constantly missing/late for sessions. This seriously is a heck of an origin story for the channel, and i am glad to have found it, keep up the great work!
Definitely need to hear more of this horror story, I was enthralled!
Congrats on 10k!!!
Been waiting for this ❤️ go get em crispy 💪🏽
Love this! Congrats with 10K
Congrats on 10k dude!
Congrats on the 10k!
10,000! Great channel, man.
Great story! If there is more, that would be cool. Congratulations on the 10K
Also happy 10k crispy your stuff slaps homie. Keep it up
Grats on the 10K subs, Crispy! :D
10000! Congratulations Crispy!
it so much worse than i remembered, also congrats on the 10.1K subscribers
10 thousand. Congrats dude!
Congratulations on 10k+! Here's to 10k more!
10k let's go
🎊10,000🎉 CONGRATULATIONS!!
Definitly wanna hear more of this.
Commenting to support you in the algorithm!
It's over 9,000!!!!
Hey bro. Just want you to know that I've been listening to your channel for a little bit now. I don't get much dnd play time, but I get around to a few home brews here and there. Most end up abandoned. But I'm an avid listener and your stories have not only warned me of what not to do, but they've inspired little additions to my stories. Just wanted you to know how much you're appreciated. Please keep the tavern open and the stories coming.
U do your job exceptionally well Crispy.
Congratulations Crispy! 🥂👏👏👏
Hey! Fellow ace!!! And god what a story. Yikes. Just found your channel today and i like it
Btw, I absolutely adore your content and...how much cuts this video endured to become so clear?)
I would love to hear more about this.
I know I have been a spotlight hog in the past without meaning to. But I have been working on it
Recent subscriber here, love your work.
Spotlight hoggers really suck. We had one in our old group... he couldn't stand it when his "carefully assembled builds" (which he usually found on sketchy sites online) unavoidably turned out sucky as heck, he didn't listen to other people's plans OR consider his own actions (seriously, who shoots an arrow at a freakin' ELDER DRAGON that is flying away without even looking at us?), and would assign the fault of his character being lousy to the gaming system. And when he tried to GM... well, let's just say that he didn't give a damn about anything but his personal likes and leave it at that. And heaven forbid he should try to assemble a character in point buy games such as the Hero System of GURPS... he tried to buy ALL powers, stating "Otherwise, how would he have survived before meeting the team?" ...I dunno, strategy? Stealth? Knowing when to retreat? Being aware of your own limitations? Nnnnope, the system is flawed, because his ideas are awesome and since he can't reproduce them using the game it's the game that sucks.
@catandrobbyflores
2 жыл бұрын
My group just had to deal with one last week and to make a very long story short the attention hog managed to make another player freak out to the point of them crying, shaking, and squeezing my hand for all they are worth. Took away all the other player's agency and almost got their character killed and none of us including dm could have done anything to fix it.
@goncalocarneiro3043
2 жыл бұрын
Frankly, I can really associate the whole unfulfilled character making aspect of it. I like to make the characters, and then translate them mechanically afterwards. This can sometimes backfire unfortunately as they usually become weak in a vacuum until I reach a certain level and they "come alive". Of course, this doesn't happen always and I can always compromise, and so can the DMs I play witg. Making a character whose main class stat is dumped or refuses to use a major class feature can be crippling, but it's just a matter of balancing with these facts in mind.
10k!
If I ever met anyone that is like this in my D&D game then character agency is no longer going to benefit them. For example, if the player has been a problem then I would send a divination wizard that has conveniently rolled a nat 1 this morning and used it against him.
I mean to clarify if he was rolling 1d8 per bolt of scorching Ray, he was nerfing himself and you should have let him keep doing it lol. Scorching Ray fires 3 rays dealing 2d6 per Ray.
@CrispysTavern
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, this is what happens when I don’t have a script. I meant to say he was using D8 damage dice. So he was rolling 2d8 per ray
18:47 Ok Chloe, calm down
Congrats on the subs!!! I love this channel and I'm happy to see it's doing so well! Quick question though: What game are you showing while you share this story? It looks like fun, but I'm not familiar with it.
@CrispysTavern
2 жыл бұрын
Ghost of Tsushima. INSTANT recommend on PlayStation.
I want a part 2.
10.00! Oh, and I'm here to let you know. ;)
More CoS horror stories. Lol. How many more before people think maybe it's CoS. 😂. Congrats on 10k!
10,000!
10,000!!!
10,000!!!!
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Well with someone picking up the dice without anyone else seeing the number rolled, I'd of just said anytime that is done it's auto a 1.
Not sure if this was mentioned but arcane was in development for over six years before it was even announced to be coming
iirc in the MM (Monster Manual) Vampire Spawn are the result of a vampire draining someone to death and after a night they raise as a vampire spawn. Also I think it mentions in the MM that they are essentially thrall bound to the the vampire that turned them.... A bit like how zombies are obedient and blunt to a necromancer and they can't become vampires until they drink the blood of their master. Also as someone who read some LoL and haven't watched Arcane yet its safe to say If I was the DM I'd have to refuse that because trying to convert games into DnD can be a headache especially one I'm not too familiar with. Also Wizard describes becoming a "Undead King" n stuff that's really just Viego, no joke it sounds like he's ripping off a LOL character and using it for power fantasy rubbish. This brings me to my personal philosophy, refrain from power fantasies be you player or DM because that is a multi headed hydra of problems
9,999(maniacal laughter)
I want to hear Crispy's Crispy Jazz
What if you played Curse of Strahd in a way where Strahd is not evil but just bitter over being cursed for whatever reason, and the goal of the game becomes not killing Strahd but breaking whatever curse was placed upon him
I have played with same group more or less for over 30 years now,w e have had some ppl come and go. Lesson learned is every one of us have been bad dms with DNPC, that guy, the edge lord and so on. We have never been creepy toward female players, but we had guy fingering his GF during the game once. Thing is we have all been the player that could be in horror story, but we have all also been the guy which save a game. We know each other inside out and we invite new players and it mostly go smooth. Some of the new players can be confused if they have played with DMs which basically railroad or strict campaigns where we free roam and sandbox in the world DM describe and run, the adventure is what the players self invent, this demand the DM we have need to be good at improvise. because we all know each other well we can explore issues which could disturb players which just jump in to campaign. We have played cannibalistic evil cultists or genocidal fascists who had slaves of both the normal variety and sexual variety. Those time we play evil ppl we often have goal that they shall get justice served to them. My fascist was hanged for his crime against humanity and we saw it as successful campaign. With that said we don't go in to details when we get in on issues as rape or torture.
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Hey, congrats on 10K! By the way, what's your opinion on Ghost of Tsushima?
@CrispysTavern
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Nothing more to be said.
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