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@wolfherojohnson2766

3 жыл бұрын

What class/race have you always wanted to try but never had the chance?

@xionkuriyama5697

3 жыл бұрын

Favorite story of silly stuff your party did?

@necronwarlord9188

3 жыл бұрын

What's your favorite source book for 5e?

@destroyerinazuma96

3 жыл бұрын

Have you ever played a character of the opposite gender and what are your tips for playing one? Thanks

"Why does everything have to be about THEIR characters?!" This kid should *never* have been a DM.

@gary-from-smiths-across-th9641

3 жыл бұрын

That's a whole new level of ignorance on the DM's part.

@PaladinGear15

3 жыл бұрын

I bet you as a player, if the party found a cool weapon or piece of equipment, he'd say something like "I deserve it because I'm the main character!".

Imagine having a table of players who came up with detailed, interconnected backstory for their characters and being like "...naw I got a better idea"

@CrispysTavern

3 жыл бұрын

Worse, he GAVE them a detailed interconnected backstory. Hyped them up, than burnt it down.

@Filippo739

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, unless your game is Deltarune you should never scrap your players' characters.

@Izrek

Жыл бұрын

@@Filippo739 Or Paranoid. But even in those scenarious it needs really good session 0

DM: "Plot twist! My gods are the main characters of your backstories!" Players: "But what about our families, our motivations, our issues?" DM: "Exactly- what about them?"

"WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE ABOUT THEIR CHARACTERS?!" I dunno. Why is Harry Potter about Harry Potter and not about Harry stumbling around getting no plot development for the first four years before discovering that he's still in the cupboard under the stairs? Oh, that's right, because it's his story and that's not what it's about. Your champaign can have your overarching plot if you want, but you NEED to make sure your players are incorporated into it...like with their original backstories...so tbat tbey stay invested! It's 100% more their story than yours

@NovemberXXVII

2 жыл бұрын

That's just good storytelling to boot. I vaguely remember this line from Stephen King to the effect of "once I have a character in my head, I try to stay faithful to who they are." and I think that's basically what applies here.

@Logan_Baron

4 ай бұрын

Exactly. Cooperative storytelling is the best description of playing D&D. In the Harry Potter case, Rowling created the world and the characters, main and supporting. In a D&D game, the DM creates the world and side characters (NPCs) and the players create the main characters and together we create the story.

Dang, making it so the antagonist never existed and it was instead someone else using the party as puppets could be an incredible plot twist. This DM took a potentially interesting idea and executed it in the worst way he could have possibly found.

That opening brings back a fun memory from my World of Warcraft days. We were in the middle of a raid when one of the tanks said "BRB room's on fire" and went AFK for a minute. A few minutes later he came back and we asked him if he was OK, and he said "Yeah, my incense burner lit a chip bag on fire, it's out now." and just carried on with the raid like he hadn't just nearly burned his house down.

I can't think of anything more disrespectful to do to your players (at least on the Pretend Game Problems level and not the Just A Dick level) than completely invalidate their entire character and backstory.

@calebhughes4226

3 жыл бұрын

In a way though, it doesn't invalidate their experiences in-character. It still "happened", but the DM should have described that they were all in an illusionary state, and this tavern is the limbo where they're being communicated with. He could have taken it a step further, and be like, "the world you were in is part of an elaborate test, your characters were placed in a simulation, and it's actually 1000's of years in the future. The goddess is slowly awakening them because she's causing a Rebellion in the current time, and knows the heroes are reliable and trustworthy for such a cause. 🤷🏻‍♂️ something like that. I'd be down af for that shit. Hell yeah.

@PaigeLTS05

2 жыл бұрын

@@calebhughes4226 nope. Still invalidates the characters backstory, still a shitty move.

fun fact, the dm never came back BUT THE BUG DID

The "story" of the cockroach hit too close to home, poor guy xD But man, the actual tale set chills down my spine, the idea to combine to PCs story was SO GREAT and it sounded wonderfully done! And in the end the whole campaign is about drama that doesn't even involve them AND even worse, everything they believed and made for their characters backstories is thrown away?! Seriously, wth. 5 months of hard work is just discarded because the DM wanted the players to watch their OCs story, and not even care about what the players do, want or try to do? This just sucks man. I hope they were able to find a new DM.

@Estarile

2 жыл бұрын

Hell, the DM could have just have had the enemy god be hiding the cult from that goddess. There problem solved.

Intro is the most horrific story i've heard. That's going to give me nightmares.

@dinoknightready0164

3 жыл бұрын

Those things are a bane to mankind

@songsayswhat

2 жыл бұрын

I once had a cockroach crawl out from the DVD drive on my PC while I was at work. Never knew how far those wheeled office chairs can shoot backwards!

@linda-0587

2 жыл бұрын

😱😂😬😳

@ikbeckly385

2 жыл бұрын

When I was a kid, one of those bigger flying roaches landed on my face. 20 years later I still haven't recovered

OK, but for real, "All of your backstories are hallucinations" is a great way to start off a campaign, as long as you have a group of players who you trust to not metagame it. They need to know about it before things start for it to actually work, obviously. You can't just spring it on them. I'm putting that one in a file for later use.

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

Or you know just have them wake up in a unfamiliar land and keep their original backstories.

@Brashnir

3 жыл бұрын

@@emberfist8347 The hallucination idea allows the ability to include people, places, items, etc. from their backstories that really do exist, but not at all how they remember them. Think of it as more of a Total Recall situation than just throwing out their backstories wholesale. It also offers the option for a late-campaign twist where the players learn that their memories were actually real, while some massive magical mishap caused the rest of the world (or at least region) to have been modified, and now they have to set things back the way they were.

@darcodraconius9140

3 жыл бұрын

Its a good idea but you have to be carefull and trusting players. Not everyone like to have their backstory modified in a "it was all a dream" kind of way. You may even lose those players before the reveal that the memories were real

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

@@darcodraconius9140 Yep I think a better concept would have them all have backstories where they are strangers who wake in a unfamiliar land together

@tuomasronnberg5244

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be so keen on that idea. Think about it, when a player bothers to write a backstory in the first place then it's most likely something they're interested in exploring during play. If you pull the rug under their feet by revealing that it's a hallucination then it's going to leave them demoralized. And what you're going to replace it with? It's either going to be something the player doesn't care about, or something similar to the original idea which begs the question why do that in the first place. I'd try something like that only in a complete beer and pretzels game where the players are there just to roll some dice and the backstories don't matter, and even then it would fall flat because it would be a game where, you know, backstories don't matter.

Retcon Also, how do garbage DMs seem to run such epic games AND THEN RUIN THEM? Like, c'mon folks...

So basically, the DM didn't want to play D&D, he wanted to read his personal fanfic to a captive audience.

Dude had great build up, weaving backstories together like that. That's an awesome way to get your players invested. But then he took that awesome build up behind the shed like ol' yeller, and was upset when the players were not happy

That roach story was hilarious

Bad DM! No Party for you!

Interesting idea, bad execution. A better execution could have been that the trauma was real but the 'hallucination' portion of the backstory was the 'cult' being the reason for it. >Enter BBEG slowly clapping BBEG: I was wondering if you would ever figure it out. I can see from the horrified look on the Rogue's face she has, but I'll explain for those of you who aren't there yet (He looks at the barbarian). Didn't you think it was coincidental that each of your origins were the result of this mysterious cult that no one else has ever heard of? Do you know why that is? Because it was me. Fucking with you. From the beginning... There is no cult. I merely used magic to twist your traumas to my will by creating a non-existent cult as the reason for them. I don't know who killed your families, stole your lands, and abused your pet donkey. I don't even care. I subtly added the memory of 'the cult' being responsible, placed a few contacts in your path to reinforce and cement the belief in the cult's guilt, and then when you were primed I deployed you to whatever quagmire I needed to have dealt with. It served my purpose to have you working together against whatever target I chose simply by dropping hints that it was the 'Cult'. You have been my puppets. It has given me no small amount of joy to hijack your pain and use it against you to do my bidding. That 'cultist encampment' that you wiped out, a rival gang that was encroaching on my turf. The Cult Leader who you assassinated, a crooked politician in the way of my own crooked politician's ascension to power. While you were useful pawns, I fear that you have gotten too sure of yourselves so now I must dispose of you. >Queue maniacal laugh Key parts of this kind of reveal. 1) The players can now put together the hints you have given them all along that there was more to this than they thought. (You did give them some hints, right?) 2) The players were never tricked into doing something 'evil'. Everyone that the players were used against were bad, though it did help the BBEG get stronger. This is important so that you don't make the players feel like you have corrupted their character concepts and retconned behaviors that the player wouldn't have the character do. 3) The backstories are still intact and can be acted on. You haven't invalidated any of the work that the players have done. But you added a layer at the beginning and then revealed that it was the added layer that was untrue.

The DM should just write terrible stories. Also, great job with the Crumble. Him and Maldo were my favorites.

That last story hits pretty close to home for me, I used to play in a lot of location-based campaigns, a lot of the time because they had so many shared players and staff [as when one would close down everyone would migrate to another like rats abandoning a sinking ship] that the same problem players would crop up. There was this one DM who named himself after a greek titan who just... could not understand that his recurring NPCs [Which I would wager were more like personal OCs than NPCs to begin with] just... absolutely could not be the focus of the setting, especially with multiple DMs present and thus the major plotlines having to be run past both them and the Head DM/GMs who actually owned the forum/chat/etc. I remember after the... I think it was *third* time I saw him lose his position as a GM he had the longest most boring and insane argument with the head staff and the wham line that cost him his position was... just immaculate. He was ranting about how it wasn't fair that the rules hard limited 'his characters' [the NPCs were hard locked to a maximum of only 1-2 levels above the highest leveled PC to prevent gross shenanigans, and he wanted to have his favorite Succubus With Class Levels but couldn't fit all the class levels] and how "The players need to understand that the story isn't necessarily about them!" At which point the head DM completely shut him down, told him to be quiet, and about 5 minutes later told him he was demoted to player status only, at which point he quit, only to slink back in a week or so later of course. Just... the absolute HUBRIS of that kind of thought pattern. Just write a fucking story. JUST WRITE A FUCKING STORY. Nobody can interfere, everything will go the way you want it to, and nobody will show up your super special awesome™ anti-protagonist or whatever the hell you call a boring edgelord OC. I dunno, I'm so over it that I just laugh when I see them now, they're like clowns that don't even know they're performing.

To quote Brental Floss' "Mario 2 Credits with Lyrics": "Was Mario 1 all a dream? No. Was Mario 3 all a dream? No. Yes Mario 2 is the black sheep of the bunch. Why could that be? I have a hunch."

@epsilon-eleven

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, it wasn't even a Mario game until it was released in the US. It was a completely different IP, but they thought it wouldn't sell in the US, so they replaced the original character sprites with Mario characters.

I was In a Naruto TTRPG once. I was playing a member of the Lee clan. Unfortunately, we had an Uchiha and a Hyuuga, whose special eyes temporarily gave them bonuses during combat. DM balanced all of the encounters towards THEM, even if the battle didn't feature them. How Is this unbalanced? The system was of a simple D20 + Stat required. So if you have 5 In strenght, it'd be D20 + 5 In strenght checks. So while they had around, let's say, 18 In hit and dodge with buffs, we normal people had around 10. DM made common thugs have at least 20. Combat was not fun. Oh, and DM had a DMPC, at some point he died, came back thanks to a "special medicine" and became host to a demon. He soon received a perma buff of +10 on everything, effectively jumping from level 5 to 45. The fact DMPC was a Gary Stu and Edgelord self insert was the cherry on top.

I've seen a similar twist in a video game I like. Without revealing too much about the game, basically all the characters were given a connected story (also involving a death cult) and it's revealed at the end to be made up mostly to motivate the characters to make major screw ups and turn against each other. There's a huge debate on whether it worked or not in that context. Personally I think it doesn't, but what makes it a slight bit better than in this context was that even after the twist, the story was still focused on the ensemble cast, and it didn't shift away to completely unrelated characters. Funny enough, the individual backstories of each character in the ensemble sound like a person's first DnD character.

See, the "hallucination backstories" could have been used right. Like, make it ambiguous. Make them wonder what was real and what wasn't. Make them wonder if the goddess is lying or telling the truth. Is she trying to trick them? If so why?

@nvfury13

2 жыл бұрын

“Is the Goddess mentally unstable?” Would be my first thought, since she thought the people that picked up some darts after they were chucked at them had “stolen” them…

@Incarosster

2 жыл бұрын

@@nvfury13 To be fair, I'm pretty sure there are gods real world mythologies who would do something like that. Don't let modern retellings (Especlly Disney Retellings) fool you. According to many myths and stories, deities tended to be JERKS.

@nvfury13

2 жыл бұрын

@@Incarosster Oh, I’m aware. Been a lover of reading mythology since the early 80s when I learned to read. Knowing mythology makes it all the more likely I’d believe the Goddess was either crazy or lying.

I would say the twist of someone’s backstory being fabricated could work for one…maybe two players but not the whole group. They could be hunting down the cult, hearing rumors of what day assume is a new branch of the cult. Because the rumors the players are hearing is that it’s a new group. Which doesn’t fit what they know. While trying to track down this “new branch” The team could have to travel through a town that’s part of the backstory of one of the players. Only when they get there nobody recognizes them the house the family everything about them that they remember in that town nobody in the town even knew of them. Then afterwards they start running into a few new NPC‘s who are also hunting down the cult. But the thing that’s really creepy or concerning is that some of their back stories seem to overlap with the PC’s. Finally after tracking down the cult they find that it’s a small group of six people. Only one of them seems to know what they’re doing the rest are just regular villagers. And with the NPC‘s and PCs it’s obviously going to be very quick to take them down but afterwards. The cult leader just smiles and pulls out some trinket. From that the NPC‘s and PCs who backstory connects to this cult have to start making wisdom saving throws, or they’ll start attacking the rest of the party. It’s through dealing with this and exploring the cult base that they would find out that the cult leader with an old pact of some elder God attempted to create fanatical soldiers and that the NPC‘s and the relevant pieces were test subjects how to “fabricate fanaticism” by giving them Idealic memories of past events that were ripped away by someone or something. See such a plot idea could work but the key piece. Is you need a competent DM that cares about the PCs having fun. TTRPG is a combination of world building character interaction and adventure for everybody to have fun and enjoy, which can’t happen if one person is trying to take the spotlight from everybody else. this is true of players and this is true of DM’s.

@draconicfeline6177

3 жыл бұрын

This idea is fucking fantastic

Had a bad DM that jumped the shark. Playing D20 Modern, set in the same city we were living in and same time period. We were working for the Not Men In Black, it essentially was, uncovering X-File type mysteries. First session we fought a trash monster, second session a voodoo priestess was grave robbing. Third session? Another Earth just poofed out of nowhere and was essentially sharing atmosphere with our Earth. Not accounting for gravity and what not, it was just there chilling slightly above our Earth. So much for the whole working in the shadows and not letting people know about the secret monsters and what not since there's no hiding another planet literally parked on top of ours. Needless to say there was no fourth session as he had no idea how to proceed from there.

I have experience a flyng roach, and let me tell you, that guy's reaction was my exact reaction as well.

The whole gods thing from the start was a massive red flag

0:40 Inb4 he came back but it was actually the roach impersonating him lol

The first story reminds me of the time our warlock had a stinkbug in their room, and it got caught in the vortex of their ceiling fan, spinning around and trying to land on one of the fan blades. Warlock narrated this to us while giggling the entire time, and it was pretty funny to hear them describing it and laughing when it finally managed. Extreme Stinkbug Sports.

If this DM was so invested in their dmnpcs and wanted the PCs in the background, then they should have just written a book

Retcon My least favorite DM power play: You all wake up and discover it was a dream. Quit two games telling the DM I don't like that s#17, and I don't have to play with him. This is before I learned the phrase "No D&D is better than bad D&D"

I wouldn’t be myself again if one of those effers flew at me.

0:35 - I can relate to that. One place I was staying, there were huge cockroaches and they freaked me out quite a lot if they were near me, they were always scuttling around on the floor, walls, in the shower stall... One day I heard a thump noise and I looked around and saw nothing that could have caused it. There was, however, a cockroach on the opposite wall. I thought "good thing those things can't fly" and it must've read my thoughts and decided to prove me wrong because it then instantly launched itself off the wall and flew across the room where it landed on the wall with the same "thump" sound. It landed above where my head *_used_** to* be... because at the time it landed, I was already passing through the doorway in that same wall and still accelerating.

As a DM/GM/ST for a lot of games when I was younger, I sometimes missed playing so if a party was missing a needed class (generally Rogue or Cleric) I’d do up a DMNPC rather than a party NPC, but you have to be very careful with backstory (the one time I had back story that was interlinked more than casually with my DMNPC I told group ahead of time she was looking for a certain magic item (trap finding bonus) to allow her (the Rogue) to survive to kill villain who ran off with all the young men in her village (including her brother, though group thought it was her fiancé since she didn’t go into details and once she realized their mistake was too embarrassed to correct it, figuring the men to likely be dead anyhow) so 1 magic item & 1 villain and told ahead of time. Four players and only one tried to scarf the item. We play TTRPG so I questioned him in blue book (trait I picked up along the way: each PC has a composition notebook that DM and PC can secretly discuss things, PCs can as well but have to give to DM to read) he complained a rogue didn’t need help with traps but he did, reminders that he’d agreed to this before hand made no dent so I took it openly to group asking if they found it unfair and only the one player was ticked off and claiming she got all the best stuff, blah, blah…, We’re no Monty haul game but treasure is not hard to come by, gold a bit harder,to encourage more town/city play (besides endless bars) PCs could keep jewelry and magic they found or sell it quick price being 1/3 value, bad rolls 1/4-1/3, good rolls 1/2, good ROLE PLAY 1/2 to full depending on roll as well, and if they went all in and got a max roll, or d20 they to manage better usual prices. Perhaps needless to say the same player hated putting effort into cities beyond getting drunk. Sigh. Anyhow there are ways to run DMNPCs but the first thing that goes is being in spotlight, being any thing but last for magic in all but rarest cases and most importantly, communication with players.

Lol, I've only heard the opening story but I'm laughing so hard I just have to share. A very similar thing happened, but I was the one who got "attacked." It wasn't DnD but some friends and I were gaming together on Xbox. I noticed something moving on the bottom of my screen and figured it was some fly or something, told my friends I'd be right back and put my headset down. They later told me they continued to chat normally when suddenly they heard me yelp, a few moments of quiet then I screamed "SHIT!" and moments later this load repetitive banging sound. Then quiet as they all waited in shock. Moments later I returned and simply uttered "spider.' Events as short as I can tell it was a jumping spider, and I am aracnophobic. The yelp was when I tried to squish it with a napkin or tissue and it jumped straight into it. Fearing it would crawl out onto me I dropped everything. Found it sitting on my 360 waving it's mandables in an "I dare you" type motion. For those who don't know the 360 could sometimes react horribly if you so much as jarred it while playing, so I dared not hit it. Came back with a shoe, poked it, and it jumped straight at me. That was the scream. I then proceeded to turn it into past before rejoining the chat.

This one hit close to home. The issue with the gods was eerily similar to something that i was a part of a while ago.

ah yes, twist endings for the sake of twist endings...

Not gonna lie this could be a cool twist but if done right. Like get rid of the oc gods and that bs. Go through with the whole cult capaign but throughout it sprinkle a bit of plot holes. Introducinh things that start making less and less sense. Till they finally get to the cult leader. Have an epic final battle but after the last hit start having everything glitch out. Reality is becoming distorted! And finally the twist! They wake up in pods in a mind flayer base! Could be a great segway to the next campaign when the players need to escape the mindflayers and stop their plot for wolrd domination!

The roach becomes the DM.

The only way an NPC should become a major part of the Story is if the Players make it happen

Worst part is that the DM could have easily did something much better than the hallucination route. He should have made it so that the cult was real, and the goddess didn't know due to the rival's intervention. Learning the cult's goddess makes her willing to listen, and their backstories each hold a clue to their motives that the goddess pieces together and realizes that the rival is plotting something dangerous and the goddess task the party to stop her and will aid the party however she can.DM gets is DMNPCs and the party keeps their backstories and the cult goal. Win-Win (until they get sick of the DM''s other BS).

Not gonna lie, the first story about the flying roach sent me into loud evil cackles.

What if the call got back on....but it was the cockroach?!

I think the best way to use an NPC in a campaign is even if they are important the players need to be the driving force. One of my favourite campaigns I've run has the players act as retainers to a lord in a setting that is a sort of hodge podge of warring states era China and feudal japan. The players are there to aid and raise the standing of their masters house but each of them have reason to be personally invested such as being saved by the lord's house or being the advisor for the noble house for generations and it is the direct actions of the party and information they glean that adds to the houses standing with them playing kingmaker to a soft painter of a lord that was never intended to attain the lordship to begin with

Honestly the fact he was so quick to edit everyone's back stories without their consent should have been the first red flag. If you patted him on the back for changing them the first time you shouldn't be surprised he'd change it again.

@EmeralBookwise

Жыл бұрын

I mean, D&D is a COLABRATIVE game. There's nothing wrong with a DM trying to weave characters into the narrative and when it's well received by the players it can add to everyone's immersion. Twists, turns, and revelation about your own character that you never planned for, but which still get you excited to see what it's all building up to can all be part of a good game. Obviously, as with anything that can be taken to far, and it certainly was in this story, but that doesn't mean it was a red flag from the very start.

Clearly the Roach took over his body. Explains why he likes playing rogues now.

That opening story is the best omg 😂😂

Why does it 'have to be about the Pcs?' Because they're the main characters of the story- if you disagree, then you aren't really playing a cooperative game so much as you're trying to write a book with a captive audience.

Before I say anything on the video: crispy please do not reuse this particular technical difficulties screen, the flashes were too quick and my hypersensory ass almost barfed on my keyboard 😂 Also, I really really hope that someone in the comments of OP’s story proposed to dm for them, it’s such a shame that these character never got a proper ending and that the players were forced to stop playing them because of this bullshit

So, this particular horror story has been boiling my piss lately due to my own campaign. It's a Pathfinder campaign loosely based on Fire Emblem 3 Houses, having a heavy focus on the drama between the 3 House Leaders (future leaders of the 3 main nations) and the Church, as well as the Noble Parents of some of the students. The difference was I was UP FRONT with my players that this was gonna be a huge point of focus. They KNEW what they were getting into, and were able to build their characters with that knowledge ahead of time. And it's been great, we've been having a lot of fun. Honesty and expectation-setting goes a long way.

@malyacelle9096

2 жыл бұрын

I first read « expectations setting hoes »

It would have been cool if it turned out the cult had manipulated them into committing the atrocities themselves and that they were "the cult" in question. It could have resulted in an epic battle against the eldritch creature to get their agency back. Like he could have used one of those god oc's to try and save them from the influence and that being why their memory is supposedly false. Maybe said god could only do so much and had to hide themselves because the effort had exhausted them. Idk. There could have been so many ways to make that plot work

Dat intro

From the Thumbnail. I'd thought this be Sentinels of Light Related.

@CrispysTavern

3 жыл бұрын

I just take thumbnails from Artstation’s front page. I honestly have no idea what Sentinels of Light is.

@fetch9772

3 жыл бұрын

@@CrispysTavern It's a thing apart of League of Legends. They are a group of people called Light Sentinels that fight back a evil force called the Black Mist controlled by the Ruined King. The one that is used in your thumbnail is The Aspect Sentinel, Diana

my teammates were dying cause they heard me swear at a bug and then me getting upset cause it splattered on my hand and laptop screen when i killed it. I had to be like 'ay gimme a moment i gotta grab something to wipe this bastard fly off'

This was a supremely selfish DM,

I feel very concerned about the dm who ruined backstories having a twink wizard. I guarntee the dm would force my barbarian into a relationship with him. My barbarian isnt into twinks. He likes buff men like himself…he also prefers orcs/half orcs, and/or guys with glasses. But only buff dudes.

Trinston was here . .

I didnt know moistcritikal was a dungeon master

Retcon Dont do it

Retcon!

That opening is some Terraformars shit.

Retcon (Good engagement idea)

Retcon, by god, I would’ve DMed that session better, and I never played before

8:29 - OMFG, why would the players think that *their characters* are important to the game? They should *know* they're only here to support *my* ego wank! 😜

Retch-con

kwispy

Buttons

Retcon

redcon

as a god of destruction... Dont blame me for making those brown flying Monsters.

retcon

Kind of hooe you retcon the word to be something else lol

@CrispysTavern

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, I’m not smart enough for that

These people just can't go one whole paragraph without mentioning sexuality. It's absurd.

.... Am I the only one who thinks the players are equally in the wrong here? The DM could have been more open with the players on the direction of the campaign sure, but the players also have to understand that their backstory does not dictate the sole direction of the campaign. If a DM can tie in a player's backstory (or all of them) into the main campaign, that's great! If not, well then maybe next time...? The DM is providing the problem, the players are there to solve it. If the DM steps into the player's territory they're railroading, and if the players step into the DM's territory then they're...? Bad?

@PlatonicLiquid

2 жыл бұрын

Nowhere in this story did it come off as the players trying to have sole control of the direction of the campaign. They actually seemed like they were incredibly competent in collaborative storytelling, especially given the fact they were all teenagers. If you as a DM cannot fit a player's backstory in to the campaign, you're not trying hard enough. If a player has gone through the effort to make a backstory and is interested in seeing it played out, it must be very important to how they want to play that character. Not giving them that opportunity (or in this case erasing it entirely) is preventing them from playing their character the way that they want it to be played.

@theuncalledfor

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you are the only one. No one else thinks that. Absolutely no one.

To be fair, they were complaining that the plot wasn't going anywhere. So he switched it up, and it didn't take 🤷🏻‍♂️

@snowydasher6994

3 жыл бұрын

what he effectively did was tell them to go to McDonalds, but not give them directions, and when they seemed really lost he decided to take them to a Chinese restaurant instead.

I don't get it. If this ran for about 5 months y not leave in month 2 or earlier? Although your portrayal of the dm's is bad , seems to me you are under selling how bad you were. Also its really upsetting me you diminishing any effort the dm's did provide within those 5 months. I could be wrong but I trust you less than the dm as you sound like a major manipulator. Mind you I can't empathize with text to play sessions. if the players were so upset at a session and the dm came to a conclusion with the players to retcon it, seems to me the dm does care. about a conversation being leaked that dm said this or that. I'm taking it with a grain of salt.

Retcon

Retcon

Retcon