"Who needs magic when knife will do just fine?" You say that, but at one point as a level 18 Wizard I stabbed a dude in his kidney because he was also a mage and the DM liked using counter spell. Sometimes as a powerful caster, you need to know when to cast, and when to shank a bitch.

@wolf1066

Жыл бұрын

"you need to know when to cast, and when to shank a bitch" TRUE!

@andurianbutler6012

Жыл бұрын

There is a book series that did this. 2 Mad Scientists throwing electricity at each other. The one that wins grabs a crowbar and hits the other in the face.

@airplanemaniacgaming7877

Жыл бұрын

@@andurianbutler6012 and better yet: "Why use sword when have sharp glass?"

@midnights2631

7 ай бұрын

Shanking is always fun

@credendovides20

5 ай бұрын

My favourite moment from my latest campaign was when my 17th level necromancer started catfighting against the 18th level necromancer villain in the middle of the main square, with our corpse-minions cheerleading. We both had the bad habit of counter spell each other and a ton of repressed anger. It was chatartic. We called it a truce after a while. The part was impressed. Not in a good way, but it certainly was an impression.

"Who needs magic, when [knife] will do just fine?" Is such a hilarious line though.

@schwarzerritter5724

2 жыл бұрын

Warlock I could understand, because casting Hex and dual wielding daggers does good damage.

@Kjfungirl

2 жыл бұрын

Literally came to comment exactly this. Sometimes knife simply does so it better than magic 😂

@Sancturios

2 жыл бұрын

"I cast Dagger!"

@sadshlyapa

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the Loki way

@ZorotheGallade

2 жыл бұрын

[Marisa with a machine gun]: "Wow this is better than magic"

I know it was probably a misspeak but at 22:18 you say the gaming store “banned him from life” which implies that he was such a bad player they just murdered him in real life which is a hilarious mental image

@juliocezar2002

2 жыл бұрын

You're going to the shadow realm jimbo

@Kurotekken

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao this mini thread was much-needed

@alphons1456o

Жыл бұрын

Game Store Manager: "You're banned from life!" Problem Player: "You, uh...you mean banned FOR life, right?" GSM, loading his M1911: "Nope!"

@Kairos_Akuma

5 ай бұрын

​@@alphons1456o "Did I stutter?"

"It was out of my control!" Says the DM, the literal GOD of the world. It's NEVER outside the DMs control. He knew exactly what he was doing and just did it anyway which is why he tried to hide behind shitty excuses.

The video got posted on our server, Firbolg Barbarian here just to add to the Sir Simpalot Story. Early on we found a heavy dwarven Armor that our great Sir needed to get fixed since he didnt fit in it. First he asked the only dwarf NPC in our Village to fix it who before this revealed his backstory that he moved in with us because he never wanted to work with metal again. At first I thought its him RPing a ignorant noble but its only getting better from here. It turns out he simply didnt listen to anything any other players did and before asking for the trophy he asked me THE HUTNER BARBARIAN who has been spending all his time establishing he is only good at tracking and killing stuff to fix the Armor. There was a Firbolg Smith in our Village (dont remember if it was a NPC or other PC at this point the last two years have taken a toll) and after asking again who I was he just heared firbolg and assumed i must have been the smith. When we corrected him he was genuinly annoyed at which point it became clear he wasnt just playing the asshole. Anyway nice to see the Story on youtube keep up with them vids^^.

@Kevinblue035

2 жыл бұрын

i hope ur firbolg found a nice wife and/or husband

@wayfareangel

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you guys are now simpless. Home your barbarian found a good wife.

"sexism is bad, don't be sexist" -a Crispy rat

Story 1 is why it's important to not mistake your boss for a friend.

@fundindylgobrad1598

2 жыл бұрын

DM here. No he mistook me for his girlfriend. Well not literally but the way he reacted was probably less gracious than someone after a terrible breakup. The story didn't mention that but after i kicked the guy out he went on a complete fit and started spamming me on discord. ''I have GIVEN you MY time and PASSION but you kicked me out like it was NOTHING'', stuff like that. He tried to start drama on the server I had recruited him from, trying to present the story as me being a dick to him for no reason. Eventually I stopped arguing with him (trying to explain what he did wrong) and just blocked him. EDIT: I now realize you meant the intro but ill leave this here anyway.

You do *not* kill a player’s character if they are unable to be at the game in person, or virtual. Doing so not only feels cheap as hell, but also shows a massive amount of disrespect to the player themselves, as you clearly don’t have enough respect to let *them* have a hand in their characters fate

@linda-0587

2 жыл бұрын

Also *RIP gaming table* 😭😭

@manticore6963

2 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why those PCs were present in the first place. Why not say "Oh, the charactes of those not available today run outside the tower when combat started, taking all your luggage with them to safety - they're waiting at the base of the tower for you." Oh right, because the DM enjoys killing characters. The way I handle it is that, if someone isn't present, their character is somewhere safe and sound. Yes it's a narrative asspull, but I prefer having to conjure an explanation out of thin air rather than having characters in danger whose owner's have no agency over their safety at that moment.

@Black0Rabbit

2 жыл бұрын

We like having fun reasons for why that character is unavailable for the session. We once had a character who chronically kept getting the "space flu" and had to stay behind on the ship.

"It's out of my control." YOU ARE LITERALLY GOD. The DMG (Dungeon Master Guide) tells you that you can break the rules.

"Because SHE'S the DMs boss" Lol yoooo why does the intro story sound like a sitcom pitch? I'd watch it

The first story underlines an important thing...never play RPGs with someone who has real life power over you (such as a boss). If they turn out to be bad players and are just as shitty as a person, they *will* throw their weight around to basically force you to put up with it

13:08 "random encounter, out of my control" How do some DMs think this crap excuse works. You're the DM... you have literally unlimited control.

Last Story - RIP Game Table Ah yes. The irritating “gag character” who only exists to annoy the party. It is only funny once-and only once. Also the fact he practically destroyed the store over a character death… something is wrong with Onga. Glad he was charged by the store.

@asteriondeltoro124

2 жыл бұрын

It can work. There's an old DnD story about a senile 78-year old cleric who kept seeing liches everywhere, but that character's player knew enough to keep it from derailing the plot, while also being useful despite his drawbacks.

@gigaswardblade7261

2 жыл бұрын

Literally RIP

@minamajikina8075

2 жыл бұрын

There's a guy in my circle of friends who only played joke characters. He doesn't play at all now because with two kids and a job he doesn't have the time anymore, but when he did it was nothing but gag characters. -He would insult nobles, making wild accusations that would have gotten the whole party incarcerated or worse had we not made some impressive diplomacy rolls and had a forgiving DM. -He would fool around during combat, picking the abilities that would make a nuisance of himself over anything actually useful. -Sometimes he wouldn't do anything at all! Just stood there and flexed or something equally asinine. -Scene was too grim for his liking? He would be doing something stupid in the background. I've always kept it to myself because the rest of the group just tolerates it, mainly because the friend that brought us all together is incredibly against anyone "going in" on anyone else in the group. She doesn't like criticism, finding it "harsh" and "toxic", and will constantly justify this one guy's irritating behavior.

@jdizzy192

2 жыл бұрын

My characters thing is that shes an alcoholic. There are inappropriate times when she drinks/is drunk but i make sure to never have her go overboard or derail too much with her antics. When asked about her drinking, i explained in character that something happened in her life that left her with mild PSTD and an avoidant personality along with a god like being whispering in her ear constantly. Drinking helps drown all the noise

@ryanahr2267

2 жыл бұрын

I mentioned this on another of Crispy's videos, but I played with a person who made a gag character in the CoC group I was part of last year. This dude's character was basically Arnie's character from Commando, but with the aesthetic of the 1920s and the personality of a basic lawful stupid paladin. He always shot first and asked questions never, and he always spouted off a one-liner before doing so. The Keeper thought it was hilarious and didn't make him stop even after it landed us in a fight that would have been a TPK had that particular Keeper not been so averse to player deaths.

11 is above average. Low int for a wizard, but definitely smarter than this guy was acting.

@TheBones1188

2 жыл бұрын

10 and 11 is average; that's why they are +0 this guy would struggle with 9

@theHalken

2 жыл бұрын

Same thing I thought. Very low for a wizard, sure, but not at all "behave like a child" level. More like "renowned neurosurgeon starts having memory issues" type story, and that could be really cool if played by a good player. Imagine being of average intelligence when you just a few years earlier could see the patterns of the universe and recall every book you ever read... In fact, it could be a cool backstory for a character to have had some sort of dementia or magic equivalent and cured it with whatever ritual or something. So the character is trying to remember everything they learned once, represented by leveling up...

@airplanemaniacgaming7877

Жыл бұрын

@@theHalken And YOINK! The idea has been stolen now! Thank you for the generous donation! Just kidding. I'd probably botch it.

@theHalken

Жыл бұрын

@@airplanemaniacgaming7877 nah! Make a go at it. If nothing else its interesting to come up with in game reasons for leveling up (i did a fighter who had been raised in a mercenary company specialized in left handed warriors, as a sparring partner so he knew a lot about fighting. Just not fighting right handed people so he had to relearn muscle memory)

@bossked1563

Ай бұрын

​@theHalken Don't remind me of Flowers for Algernon, please. =( Seriously though, still a good idea! I would use it as a very confused person. Someone who's highly intelligent but doesn't know how to channel it. River from Firefly, for example. Maybe not the best idea foe how to play the stats, but workable.

They can kick her and if she fires the DM, go for that “Wrongful termination” or better yet start job searching.

@jakeand9020

Жыл бұрын

Getting fired is probably not the concern. Bitterness with the boss in any form just makes for a miserable life, especially if you otherwise enjoy the job.

@shadiafifi54

Жыл бұрын

@@jakeand9020 Yeah, that's the big one. A boss firing you without good reason is trouble for the boss. A passive-aggressive boss who makes your job hell while using paperwork to keep themselves clean is trouble for you.

DM of story 1, a few added notes to the story. The reason why I recruited from a big public server for a ''reliable'' campaign is that I simply have the mindset in the online games we play that its better to start with 1-2 people over what I'm comfortable with. Usually scheduling issues will result in some people dropping out within a few sessions and then there would be a healthy party for the rest of the game. So I just wanted a few more people. I was fully ok with them not paying attention or dropping out, but it's always nice to take a chance and find someone new that's an excellent addition to the DnD server you are on. Most of my core players (me included) had come from that public server as an older DM had introduced us to DnD. Then in turn some of us started running games and the server grew, which has kept the server alive for many years. I guess I had been dodging bullets because I hadn't had a real problem player before. As for the romance, I'm generally ok with it as long as it doesn't get sexual (fade to black in that case). I might have been partially unfair with Sir Simp-a-lot because by the time everyone started rejecting him left and right, he had made me uncomfortable with the way he talked to women and his constant interrupting and main character syndrome. So I didn't want to encourage him by giving him what he wants. I let him roll in some situations, but I had the DC really high because his ''flirting'' was just terrible and creepy. Meanwhile the Firbolg was a good guy who was just playing his character, went only 1 for NPC and was very slow and considerate in the way he did things. Maybe a single scene per session, with talking to the NPC like an actual human (or well firbolg) being. I should have probably kicked him out way earlier but I was hoping he could learn as he looked like a new player. Also I wasn't sure what the other players would have thought, maybe it was just me that couldn't stand him? My friend didn't mention that I had nicely asked him to not interrupt or told him that ''you can't command other players what to do it's a cooperative game'' multiple times during the session. So my outburst didn't come from nothing. In the scene with the knights he was about to TPK the party, was being sexist to my friend's character and had interrupted him in the call. So I lost my temper and kicked him out. Then I awkwardly realized everyone hated playing with him but did not want to speak out. I breathed a sigh of relief and decided that my decision was final. In hindsight, fellow DMs just ask your players how they feel about a certain problem player behind the scenes so you don't have to put up with them if no one likes them. Oh yeah I also saved OP as he was DMing another campaign in the same world I played in and Sir Simp-a-lot had learned about it wanted to join. And OP couldn't find a way to say no. The character he was making for that game was somehow even *worse* than the one in my campaign. He was a noble. He had used his retainer feature to give himself a ''hot servant girl who had to obey his every decision''. With even more main character syndrome and a completely Mary Sue pompous character. Thankfully I kicked him out just before the session he would have joined and OP happily followed suit. The session of his campaign opened up with us finding the corpse of his character iirc and we had to fight off some monsters to save the servant girl. We escorted her to a ship to take her back to her homeland. OP dodged a bullet there.

@MewGirlZ

Жыл бұрын

Did the Barbarian get his wife though?

I can't tell which is worse, not using sorcery points at all, or using them infinitely. Our old sorcerer did that, dude just claimed he uses his sorcery points for everything, yet never ticked them off, plus he'd use them for stuff he couldn't do, constantly, like using quickened spell to cast two fireballs, or two twin-spelling a disintegrate, both on the same target, or using his sorcery points to restore spell slots of any level at all, dude must've cast disintegrate 4 times in one combat before. I was way too trusting as a player, I'd never played a sorcerer before so I just assumed "yep I guess he can do that", when I finally made my own sorcerer, I realized all the rule breaking with his sorcerer... yet the dude still had the nerve to tell me I'm playing my sorcerer wrong at level 1, I suck at being a sorcerer because I should be using my metamagic and spending my sorcery points, I repeat... at level 1 >_>

@karldehaut

2 жыл бұрын

Well, sorcerer's player has the fatal flaw of being a cheat, but the DM is just as responsible... Then he is suffering from main character syndrome. Please discuss with your GM why s/he allow cheating...

@PaladinGear15

2 жыл бұрын

@@karldehaut I think she was just as clueless about it as I was, she kinda dove straight into being a DM for 5e. She was great really, but this guy was constantly pulling nonsense, he was a changeling and constantly did stuff like gave himself wings to fly, or gills to breathe underwater etc... We really just didn't question it, we were being naïve assuming the guy was just playing a REALLY powerful race/class. That campaign's over now anyway, I watch players way more now, but try not to rules lawyer.

@karldehaut

2 жыл бұрын

@@PaladinGear15 I think she is a good DM but she was still a newbie. Unfortunately, I have met a lot of players who overpowered their characters. This is cheating. I let do that when I was a DM beginner. It was an error.

@karldehaut

2 жыл бұрын

@@PaladinGear15 Sorry. I forgot to say the most important. A DM should always, always test player characters at home, by him/herself. This is a good trick to be able to say No or the DC is 30.

Story 3 - Seriously, what is with adults having tenper tantruns and throwing shit? I thought we grew out of this in kindergarten.

@robertbryant8243

2 жыл бұрын

Speaking from my own experience, some of us simply lack impulse control for one reason or another. In my case I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and was throwing tantrums in public well into my late teens (the hormonal shifts of puberty weren't helping matters). I knew what I was doing was wrong, knew that I was hurting people who didn't deserve it, but I couldn't stop myself until the rage adrenaline wore off. Gradually I learned to contain my temper until I was out of the way of doing potential harm, but flare-ups still happen and I end up destroying my own property. And before you ask, yes, I was briefly medicated with mood stabilizers. Apparently they zombified me to the point of near uselessness, and exacerbated my insomnia to the point where I was just watching the window for sunrise. They didn't do a fucking thing to stabilize my mood, though.

@thereseemstobeenanerror1219

2 жыл бұрын

Let me explain that they were two different groups to determine if somebody's an adult. They should have a high level of physical maturity and emotional maturity. Some people never actually develop emotionally. So as a result you typically see grown adults throwing Tantrums like they just came out of kindergarten.

I cast "Stab them repeatedly."

@karldehaut

2 жыл бұрын

😂

The first story reminds me of this one character we had in our party. Wise Waldorf, . He was a bearded man in a huge flowing robe and a giant wizard hat. In his hands was a a staff of smooth ivory. He spoke in riddles, and with an air of wisdom to everything he says. Natrually, the enemies, which our dm had be very tactical, would most often try to rush Wise Waldorf. Wise Waldorf was a rouge His backstory is that he belongs to a prominent wizarding family, some of the most presigious in the land. But he could never cast a spell successfully, with it always malfunctioning. So he set out traveling, like his famed ancestor did. Yet because the only spell he could cast was actually just his staff having a cantrip bound to it, and him looking like an easy mark, he got used to defending himself with a knife, until he focused that into being his combat style. His "magic" is all slight of hand and stuff like that. As a result, our enemies would try their best to often get in melee range, only to find that's where you don't want to be. Wise Waldorf was a blast to play alongside. He was great in a fight, and eventually, whenever we knew the enemy would be using tactics, we would actually plan around this whole "kill the wizard first" strategy, making it look like we're doing our best to protect him, while also allowing the biggest threats to slip through to meet his knife. He also was great to RP with, this famed wizard being a sham, and having some heartfelt moments of working through imposture syndrome, something the actual player struggled with. Lead to some of the most wholesome conversations between characters. He was so great, that the next campain was entirely based around his gimmic: We look like one class, but are actually not.

For the final story, I think that if an attack does x2 or more than your max hp, it's an instant kill and you can't roll for death saves, so the op didn't do anything wrong since he was following the rules, while the cleric didn't meta game and the friendly fire would have happened either way since the problem player didn't say anything, so if it wasn't cleric, it would have surely been someone else from the party or possibly the guide even, and all the problem player had to do was say what he was doing to the rest of the party and tell them that he was this specific zombie and to not attack him.

I'll never understand why people will approach D&D (a multiplayer cooperative game) and expect to be the main character.

@letsplaysvonaja1714

2 жыл бұрын

Well, all players are the main characters (usually)

@justnoob8141

2 жыл бұрын

@@letsplaysvonaja1714 last time I check, I’m just some random dude in neverwinter Online and World of Warcraft

@ryanahr2267

2 жыл бұрын

I have to imagine that many of them tried the pen and paper only after playing a video game RPG or reading something like the Drizzt novels. I love both of those things but video game RPGs (even the ones based on D&D) tend to make the player's custom character the literal main character of the game as that's just how single-player focused video games work. The Drizzt novels are wonderful by and large but the character has inspired so many Mary Sue PCs (specifically "Drow with a heart of gold" archetypes) that many experienced players and DMs have come to despise the very mention of Drizzt and/or Salvatore.

@thereseemstobeenanerror1219

2 жыл бұрын

Some people are just really really bad at sharing the spotlight.

Intro Story 1 … This sounded like our problem player who couldn’t even track her spell slots and HP. She was also a massive flake. Luckily we did kick her out and our games have been smooth sailing since

@mrroboshadow

2 жыл бұрын

yes but since the problem player in the story is the DM's boss, they may be worried about fallout at work

@robertbell307

2 жыл бұрын

I always wonder why these players don't just play a fighter or barbarians

@WhyYouMadBoi

2 жыл бұрын

What got me is that this is a 2 year campaign, and she just.....ran into combat with practically no armor and just a 1d4+dex (hopefully)+1? Yeah no, she should've died like 7 months in tops against a big boss.

@letsplaysvonaja1714

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, tracking spell slots is pretty hard

@mrroboshadow

2 жыл бұрын

@@letsplaysvonaja1714 sure something's hard Lets just give up on it entirely and pretend it doesn't exist The issue wasn't that it was hard, its that no effort was made to even pay attention

I liked the idea from the third story of the villain being a fan of OP's character as a kid. That could have been set up for a entire subplot.

@matiskrawiec

2 жыл бұрын

I feel it would make for a cool Pixar movie

@drago3036

Жыл бұрын

@@matiskrawiec yeah, they should have made a movie like that years ago

I like how there's cheering in between stories. It's like actually listening to stories in a tavern.

Oh lord I'm coming off of my own rpg horror story right now. My partner (just friend at the time of starting) is a dm and wanted to run the Wild Beyond The Witchlight module after it came out. Thankfully, we had enough mutual friends to pull together a relatively large dnd group for it. The first few sessions went okay-- we all loved our characters (which I will be using to refer to everyone in this story): A ranger (me), a bard, a druid, a rogue, and a wizard-- who later turned out to be our problem player. It was wizard's first time playing DnD, so we didn't really expect anything out of the ordinary when we first started playing with them. Their character ended up blending more into the background at first, but they didn't seem to mind, and that's just how ttrpgs tend to end up, so we didn't do anything to change it. Then cleric got added to the party. Cleric is druid's partner, and a long time dnd player and dm. Although, the more important part of that is: wizard HATED cleric. None of us know why to this day, but, as I was their closest friend out of the party, I quickly became a listening ear for all of their gripes with them, both in and out of dnd. They didn't like how cleric talked, they didn't think they meshed well with the campaign, hell-- they didn't even like how confident they were... just, in general. Due to circumstances out of cleric and druid's control, they ended up being super late to a session one night, and so wizard used this as an excuse to give our dm an ultimatum-- basically: either start warning cleric about "bad behavior", or they'd leave the game. Thankfully, DM didn't do this, as they knew that the request was asinine, and so before wizard could leave or anything could come to the surface, the campaign was put on hold for three weeks because of cleric taking a hiatus for mental health reasons and rogue's school picking up. Over that time, wizard got even more nitpicky with their criticisms of cleric while talking to me, to the point where I didn't want to join calls anymore when I saw cleric and druid were on them (something I'm still working on). It came to a head when they told me about a secret romance plot line them and bard were planning, completely without checking with bard to see if it was okay first. I ended up cracking and spilling everything to bard, rogue, druid, and dm a week later after wizard said something very insensitive about bard's DID in an unrelated call. After a long talk with the party the next day, we decided it was best to kick wizard from the group, as they'd done too much, and we couldn't trust things to stay civil with them and cleric in the same space. They apologized profusely to me, bard, and DM over the next week or so, but when faced with the question of what they wanted to do with their character since they weren't allowed back into the group, they backpeadaled and said it was unfair that they weren't given a chance before they were kicked, since they were "trying to change", despite neither I, bard, or DM ever seeing any evidence of a change. Thankfully, the group seems to be coming back together okay. I hope sessions can pick back up again without much of a problem. Tldr a rare case of good player bad friend, rather than the other way around.

@midnights2631

7 ай бұрын

The fact Wizard was hostile to Cleric due to Cleric dating Bard is awful, especially with trying to make a romance plot without talking to Bard

I actually play a melee Sorcerer in my group. I roleplay that my character actually doesn't know he's a sorcerer and just assumes his magic attacks are from his sword that he thinks is enchanted (it's not).

@karldehaut

2 жыл бұрын

Great idea, simple and functional 👍👏

@letsplaysvonaja1714

2 жыл бұрын

Are there any subclasses for that? Something like war or forge cleric or bladesinger wizard?

@dreadxcii2403

2 жыл бұрын

@@letsplaysvonaja1714 I haven't gotten that far yet. Been talking to my DM and he recommended subclassing with the fighter class. We'll get to it eventually

Having slightly crazed old characters can be extremely fun, when they don't interfere with the story or other people. This wasn't in DnD but other roleplay, but I had a character years ago who was an old witch doctor. He was fairly powerful, but had experienced so many traumatic events, as well as having his god of death whispering in his head, that he had gone cooky as all hell. He had spent most of his life away from his own people in a jungle, and had next to no skill in the common language. He joined a band of people after he had pretended to be the voice of a fish god underneath a dock the others were fishing at, to have them sacrifice their fish to him. It was plenty of fun, and he eventually had younger folks from the band help him communicate with others. He also tamed an ostrich. Thanks for coming to my nostalgia talk. Rip old idiot man, I still miss him.

Author of story 1 here. The funny thing to me is that the problem player would probably write a horror story about how our DM abused him and how all the players were dicks to him for no reason. At least that was the narrative he spun on the server he was recruited from. Trying to make everyone think we were in the wrong. I don't think anyone bought it.

@AsraliaX2

Жыл бұрын

And I bet crispy would buy it and support him 😂

Simple solution for the intro story: End the campaign, start a new campaign with the same characters and stats, and DON'T tell the sorcerer about said new campaign.

I love the concept of a rat who is also a plague doctor. Priceless.

Story 1 - Sir SimpALot Thanks god the DM did toss this tosser out. I would have loved to have seen the story.

Easy solution to that first problem. Everyone pretends to quit the game because of scheduling issues or something, then reconvene without her.

I can understand being afraid of expending resources, up until I played The Witcher 3 I had this big problem with refusing to use items because what if I need them more later? So I can definitely understand not wanting to use spell slots or sorcery points and overrelying on cantrips and mundane weapons because you don't wanna risk consuming a resource you might need later. This is a habit that The Witcher 3 actually breaks extremely well, since you basically have infinitely recharging items but can only use them a limited number of times in between rests, you have a lot of freedom to make full use of every item that can give you a leg up, and the game will beat your ass into the dirt if you don't. And coming back to D&D and other RPGs after that, I found I was way more willing to use limited items to prepare for a fight ahead of time

@blacklight2888

2 жыл бұрын

I have that problem a lot in a lot of games. Eventually I started to actively force myself to use those guns/items unless I knew exactly what I was saving them for.

"Banned from life" 😂The store killed him?

R.I.P. Game Table 20XX--20XX

Problem player in the intro story reminds me of someone I played with for about 6-8 sessions before the campaign dissolved because of scheduling issues. System was Pathfinder 1st edition and she was ostensibly playing an Investigator, which is a hybrid class that uses features from the Rogue and Alchemist classes. Except she did not care about using any of her class features. I actually asked her at one point what extracts (alchemist spells) she knew and she said she never bothered picking any out because it sounded too complicated, then brushed off my offer to help her pick some out. Instead she relied almost exclusively on two obviously evil magic items we'd picked up early in the campaign. In combat she only did simple melee attacks with a magic scalpel that had a random chance of skinning the target alive the closer they were to death. Out of combat she relied on a scrying bowl that needed to be filled with blood to work to tell her where to go next in the plot instead of doing any investigative work or god forbid roleplaying. (The blood came from either her most recent victim or she would cajole her boyfriend's PC into making a contribution.) At the time, her murderhobo tendencies didn't bother me as much as her blatant disinterest in learning how to play her character class, but in retrospect it was a bad situation overall.

RIP Game Table 😔 You will be forever in our hearts 🥀

I’ve played a few magic users who don’t use magic offensively, it is often met with confusion from my friends, but it’s not like I do any of the rest of the horrible things from the lead-in story. Sometimes you just want to stab things!

for the intro story the best thing is kick your boss and kindly remind her of a little thing called 'unlawful termination/unfair dismissal' (depending on what side of the pond your on)

Regarding killing absent players, I canot fathom why other dms do this. I literally just say "X or Y players aren't here today because they got called away/are taking care of business elsehwere, ETC"

RIP Gametable. But also, that last character is a UBER cool concept. Imma steal it.

story 4: my rule for literally every kind of convenience is hammerspace. people don't exist unless they absolutely need to if they're away. else, they're off returning video tapes or otherwise doing stuff in downtime that went 'overtime.' missing too many sessions usually means I talk to them out of game and figure out what to do. they spawn with the party when they return, and nobody has ever cared about this being a problem.

On the first story: I had a sorcerer who did the same thing (although that was because of their subclass and they were a fairly new player) and ended up being smashed into pulp and eaten by a cleric beast knockoff

Crispy "instant kill friendly fire is bad." Also crispy on the last story "we'll ignore what i said this once."

As someone wiser than me once said: "Friendly fire... isn't." weird how many GMs and players never seem able to realize that.

I've never had my character killed in a session where I wasn't there, but the DM did culminate my character's personal quest in a session where I wasn't there.

"Well, at least someone got free dice." Best outcome.

DM: it was out of my control Me: BS! Your the literal god of the world!!! You can’t face the fact that you killed off two pc’s out of spite because they couldn’t play DnD

Was recommended your channel today after a critcrab binge, definitely subscribing. Your voice is great and I love your avatar.

Me, a rogue looking down at my knives: "oh"

Enjoyed the vid once again dude :) Always fun having your feedback between stories on these as well.

Honestly, all the stuff that happened at the end of the last story is ridiculous, but the thing that really irritates me is the 'low int'. 10 is considered average, so while 11 int is typically low for a wizard as it's their spell Stat, it's still above average. He was playing more like a 6 int character.

Okay, a night with a squire who obsequiously praises on fawns on them too an excessive degree could be played for laughs and could be hilarious.

I laughed due to the third story's rogue. That one had the right instincts for the situation. Good on that player for reading the writing on the wall and staying out of that disaster. And I have to say, as someone who played D&D off and on for twenty years I just don't get this main character syndrome. Never once in all of my time playing D&D we never had a main character.

@karldehaut

2 жыл бұрын

I'm an old gamer (started when being an elf or dwarf was a class). Unfortunately in many clubs I encountered: main character syndrome, sadistic DM murderhobo, edge lord/lady and last but not least Mary Sue… The fact is that a good DM can handle them. A good DM can make these players understand their flaws and change. These players discover that playing a real character and being in a team is much more fun. I'm European and often I noticed that American gamers (DM and players) don't dare to say when it's going badly, don't dare to discuss among themselves...

@marybdrake1472

2 жыл бұрын

@@karldehaut Damn, you predate my playing of D&D by a good margin then. I feel lucky to have only experienced one "that guy" as my worst case scenario.

@karldehaut

2 жыл бұрын

@@marybdrake1472 I bet that your beginnings in RPGs were good because everyone wanted to play, to have fun… It gives you a knack for detecting and avoiding “that guy”(maybe). Gruesome players lurk in some clubs and sadly many conventions…A red flag: "Why is everyone avoiding playing with her/him?”

@marybdrake1472

2 жыл бұрын

@@karldehaut When I started back in 94 that was the idea, yeah. My one and only "that guy" situation got so bad that our DM Dave actively went after him due to him having screwed up so many campaigns and adventures. I'm not saying that was the thing to do, but I totally get why it happened.

@karldehaut

2 жыл бұрын

@@marybdrake1472 Well, communication can solve problems. Sometimes not. As a DM, I use a few tricks. Actions have consequences. When a player interrupts another player, I always ignore the interruption and ask that the interrupted player complete their sentence or action. The player who "speaks for the group" must have the consent of the other players. The player who cheats to a warning, if he continues then the penalties come into play or all the dice rolls must be done in front of everyone etc...A shy DM learns, often the rough way, to assert him/herself for his/her own good and for the good of other players and ultimately for the good of the game.

I'm playing one half of a married couple in our current game of Curse of Strahd (the guy who plays my character's husband is a long term friend.) My friend is made uncomfortable by too much affection, and I didn't want to make anyone uncomfortable given I didn't know everyone's comfort levels. I did the only thing I considered reasonable: I introduced my character, who had been separated from her husband for two weeks, by going up to him and giving him a firm, passionate handshake. Table erupted into laughter, the tone of the relationship was set, and my mission was accomplished.

I'd say I need a shower after listening to these horror stories but I'm afraid one of these creep DM's might go all Norman Bates on me...

I had to deal with an issue similar to the intro story. I was in a party with a sorcerer who I swear never used any sorcery points, barely used any spells that weren't Shadow Blade, constantly complained when the enemies were able to break through their 21 AC, turned their nose up at every single story hook the DM tried to give them, and had super inconsistent characterization.

Intro: Yeah, never play with someone who can fire you or has a similar power of control over you. It very rarely turns out well. Simp Almost KILLS the Party: It's concerning how many of these people seem to refuse to understand that no means no. Also, it's unfortunate that most of these stories involving romances involves the problem player. Yeeeah... You're Just Dead: Maybe OP should do a one-shot for the DM's sister, since her brother doesn't sound like he'll be a good introduction to it. And he's the DM. His claim it was "out of his control" is laughable at best. I hope he's a much better friend off the table than on it. Just Another Spotlight Hog: I wish less problem players had the spotlight hog flaw. It's better suited for the character instead. On that note, I've had an idea for how to play a spotlight hog without being one yourself: If it's in person, have the player and DM raise a slip of colored paper or something to indicate that the spotlight hog can barge in if the player of the character wanted to. Over Discord, I'd say the play PMs the DM that they're ready to be interrupted, and the DM does the same to the spotlight player. Either way, player/DM consent should be key. "That Guy" Rages Police Show Up: Yeah, if someone starts attacking you or destroy property that isn't theirs over a character death that is partly their own fault, it's reasonable to kick them from your friend-group as well as the table. There are lines that shouldn't be crossed that that easily or quickly.

I just wonder if any rat minatur was destroyed during the table flipping.

funny enough...the sorcerer from the intro story sounds a lot like a player i knew who ALSO played a sorcerer. never paid attention to combat, would show up to the game stoned, would do everything last minute, never learned her abilities or skills, etc... we eventually had that player kicked for out of game reasons but i was pulling my hair just playing with this person.

I'll be honest, I never really understood spotlight hogs. I normally prefer to keep my character OUT of the spotlight because I'm not that comfortable with RP yet. I only just started playing last year and, while I do make an effort, I really dont like being center stage. As a result, my first character has ended up accidentally becoming a socially awkward glutton who spends most of her time around food stuffing her face and my next character is a member of a family who may or may not be the black hand of the Kingdom, so prefers to stay in the background taking notes. Well, thats the plan anyway, whether or not that will pan out is anyones guess.

That poor table..

“Who needs magic when knife will do just fine?”- my human rouge to her sorcerer best friend.

RIP in peace, game table.

Fighter: woot! Free dice!

5:31 i think you misread here, because the text said he showed the NPC “his” trophy and claimed he had won it legitimately in an attempt to impress her. funny though

Sounds like the last story's problem player's character stats were an accurate representation of his real life ones. Man...

My thoughts about the last story as a DM. I would have not allowed the halfling to have made the decision to throw that spell unless I knew the person playing that halfing actually did not know the zombie was being played by the dragonborn.

@karldehaut

2 жыл бұрын

The Halfling’s player didn't know that dumb Dragonborn was disguised as a zombie. Perfect and legit action, even if the spell used against a true undead would be ineffective.

@georgemeyers4894

2 жыл бұрын

@@karldehaut i was mislead by that idea that the spell would be ineffective but i got to thinking about it and researched zombies in the monster manual. Zombies are not immune to necrotic damage so yeah that was an appropriate response. But had they been immune I would say that no matter how surprised a pc is they should know their spells and wouldnt have used that one if the zombie was immune to it. However Guiding Bolt could have done just as much.

@karldehaut

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgemeyers4894 I slightly disagree. If a player makes a bad move related to the context of the story it’s legit. A player explaining his move by I'm awake and I react by X is more convincing than I'm suddenly awakened and I start by calmly analyzing the situation to choose the best spell adapted to the situation, all this in less than 18 seconds. I understand that some players favor game efficiency over role play efficiency. It's a matter of taste. Humans,🤔 non-humans 😄can make errors.

@georgemeyers4894

2 жыл бұрын

@@karldehaut but how do we know the player was not trying to kill the other player because he was annoying. As a DM I do not like that. Also I am pretty sure a inflict wounds spell is by touch. No mention of that happening was in the description. Guiding bolt would have been a more reasonable choice then to run up to a zombie and try to slap it. However, as I mentioned, I was under the impression the cleric was just using a spell that she(being aa cleric) should have known wouldnt work. After all fighting undead is somewhat their thing.

the first story: just make a dungeon where she gets separated and locked in a room with the fireskull or whatever that teleports if she gets closer than 3 tiles from it, and a door that only opens after she solo kills it XD

F for the table.

Ah, dms taking joy in hurting and killing player characters. That’s something I’ve also dealt with. Hope OP finds a better table to game at! I havent yet, at least for being a player on the regular. Only games I have are a series of one shots (ran by an amazing dm in the Eberron setting) and the game I run (party is planning a coup against the Speaker of Targos in Icewind Dale, since he works with several malicious npcs, and after an encounter with him, the rogue was targeted by an invisible stalker due to backstory stuff. They are having fun planning how to deal with the first of the “Sinisters” as they call these malicious npcs.

Instant friendly fire damage can be fun but it depends on the game. I was running a game and we were using a ridiculous crit table and this was 3.5 so much easier to crit. Players all loved making characters and they had to a lot it was an insane campaign

that game table had 2 day until retirement T.T

I only play with IRL friends in Person, I can only imagine the horror of playing with randos from the Internet

RIP Game Table

I'd love a 3.5 group if you can find any. No homebrew, allows Dragon within reason, flaws and traits.

That 11 int wizard is a perfect example of why I don't like it when players try to roleplay higher intelligence than they have in real life

Third Story: Okay, by technicality, the Problematic Wizard Player is correct, you don't need to use the Verbal and Somatic Components to cast a spell...But, you either need to have Subtle Meta Magic from being a Sorcerer or the Meta Magic Adept Feat to basically cast a Spell with your mind and nothing else, or you need to be using a Spell Casting Focus. The latter of which would still be visibly casting a Spell, so everyone would still see that you are casting a Spell when you're waving your Wand, Staff, or a more special case, Arcane Grimore around and it starts glowing with Magical Energy from the Weave. Besides Meta Magic, there is no way to just not make it obvious you are casting a Spell Edit: Fixed a sentence Error

@soultpp

2 жыл бұрын

You're right that only the Subtle Spell metamagic will work to prevent obvious signs of spell casting. You may have mistaken the use of a spell focus a bit though. A spell focus is only supposed to replace material components that do not have prices listed. The verbal and somatic components, like the DM in the story attributed to the casting, can't be prevented with a spell focus, even if the focus was to glow and be obvious in doing so. The focus can be a part of the somatic component (same hand) just like the materials could be, however. :)

@duskgaming18

2 жыл бұрын

@@soultpp Ah good point, forgot Casting Focus only removes (Non Gold Piece Specific/Cost Materials) from the equation of casting Spells in D&D. So you are right on that fact, the Wizard would still need to speak the Magic Words and wave their Arcane Focus around to cast the Spell

I mean the guy at the end did disguise his character as one of the undead that attacked the party. I'd say death was reasonable.

... was it at least a magical knife?

R.I.P. Game Table

Now that's how you Rocks Fall Everyone Dies.

Final Story: Um...11 Intelligence is actually average. At least 10-11 is. 8-9 is just ever so slightly below, but not by much. So...technically the character shouldn't have been like...brain dead dumb, they should've been mildly average at best. But then again, the character is only as smart as the player, so if the Player has a -5 Intelligence IRL, then the character, even with somehow a 30 Intelligence will act like a 1 Intelligence Character

Rest in pieces game table

RIP GAME TABLE!!! No barbarian! Don't rage! Don't rage! Don't rage! "RAAAAAAHHH!!!"

Well, my first warlock was a dagger warlock. But I am willing to cut me some slack, because dagger throwing warlocks are lethal at low level.

Wizard: "I cast charm person!" DM: "Charm Person, At this time, at this type of event, in this type of environment, localized entirely in front of spellcasters!" Wizard: "yes" Other Players: "Don't they (spell casters) see it?" Wizard: "No!"

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I could have sworn I read the opener on a critrole comment section for campaign one. Might just be a coincidence though.

To the algorithms and for the table

I’m interested to ask; since a lot of the thumbnail art you use originates from the game Smite, do you happen to play the game?

@CrispysTavern

2 жыл бұрын

Nope, I’m just a fan of Devin Platts and his art and I don’t know anything about Smite. If you like the art, check out his portfolio in the description!

It irritates the hell out of me, why the hell in this universe everybody thinks that 11=dumb. Read the book. To be that much dumb you need to have like 6 int. 11 is above the average. The thing is all this wizards with their 16 to 20 intelligence stat are 1\million geniuses and by comparison average dude with 11 will look dumb.

Okay the next rogue I'm playing I'm using that line why do I need magic when I have a knife.

RIP Game Table- Guys sounds like a rageing kid on league

Not gonna lie, id join that firbolg game. Just retool and touch up my druid a bit and he fits right in. Possibly with less of his group living area being burned down

RIP Game Table!