As a professional pilot for 45+ years (USMC, Corporate and Major airline, international), and a watch enthusiast, my favorite complication is a GMT followed by a dual time and then chronometer. Here's my current list of go to pilots watches... Rolex GMT Master 16750 purchased new by me in 1983, Glycine Airman Base 22 GMT, Sinn 104 St Sa A, Omega Speedmaster Pro, Bulova Lunar, Hamilton Khaki Aviation 42mm, Seiko SKX007 modified as a "dual time" with a 12 hour bezel insert (also a deep sea bezel and sapphire crystal), Seiko SNK809, Timex Allied three GMT, Timex Navi Harbor, and honorable mention, an Omega Planet Ocean GMT.

Hello Pilot in training here, some sort of timepiece with a second hand is required when flying IFR (Instrument flight rules). They are used as back up for approaches, turns and fuel burn things like that. Love the podcast.

@thewatchmakersworkshop

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. That's good to know.

I would love a full episode of this where Cameron just answers people's questions about watches, and watch making. A look deeper into the mind kind of thing from other people's random questions! Great conversation though!

Dude i love your guys show! Its a great show to listen to while im working, i always get a coffee ready before i start. Just two mates, chewing the fat over some watches and giving some useful insight... love it!

Awesome to see you guys talking about the bellmatic. I just got a 1971 bellmatic 17 jewel. My first auto/mech watch

Good job again guys. Love the variety of watches and they are not all rolexes.

in australia flying IFR charter operations the chronograph needs to be in the cockpit. but when you’re flying private ie going fishing, then the timepiece is sufficient to just be on the wrist

Pilot watches are my favorite type of watch I would love to see more examples even maybe micro brand options like you guys sometimes do when someone sends in a watch to be reviewed

@lpg12338

4 жыл бұрын

www.a-13a.com/shop/en/ www.kickstarter.com/projects/a-13a-pilot-watch/a-13a-pilot-watch/description 👍

Wow, glad I found this podcast!

No mention of the original flieger manufacturers. Lange und Söhne, Stowa, Laco, and Wempe ?

@nobass_stub1394

6 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for the same thing. That Limited edition Stowa Bronze Pilot is Fire Matt! I'm guessing you guys were stuck with C&C stock but you can use a web search to highlight truly excellent samples of classic pilot watches. (Just some positive feedback guys :) Love the show.

@mikegeary2112

6 жыл бұрын

I was waiting too. Two styles, Flieger A and B. So classic and cool.

@thewatchmakersworkshop

6 жыл бұрын

So many great pilot watches out there, but it would be way to overwhelming to jam all of them into one episode. We just scratched the surface here, there will be more to come. Thanks for watching!

@mattwasilewicz9677

6 жыл бұрын

Great videos guy. Cameron, I have to say this, but has anyone ever mentioned that in your little youtube pic thing you look like Brendan Fraser? I noticed it the other day, and I can't un-see it now haha

@anoopmathew82

5 жыл бұрын

@@thewatchmakersworkshop How do you feel about Alpina Startimers? The Startimer Pilot grey dial is a favorite of mine in terms of looks and if quality is good I don't mind the price either.

Professional pilot and watch lover here.. Current aircraft cockpits are so advanced that you really dont need a watch anymore, but if I had to make a list of functions needed they would be... 1.- Seconds hand 2.-chrono 3.-easy to read 4.-scratch and bump resistant (cockpits are tiny) 5.- UTC indicator All other gizmos are an overkill, I have never used the bazel in my breitling B-1 (but they look cool) The antimagnetism, g force resistance, night vision googles visibility and all that stuff

@laredofilms

6 жыл бұрын

HhOoo.. I forgot a great feature non reflectant glass!! I have flown with some copilots with citizens and fosils the glass is like a mirror and make the cockpit like a ww2 airbase searching for bombers!

@kellyrobinson550

5 жыл бұрын

Timon You don't sound like a pilot?👽✈️🤔

@laredofilms

5 жыл бұрын

@@kellyrobinson550 you sound like my wife 😐

@lpg12338

4 жыл бұрын

www.kickstarter.com/projects/a-13a-pilot-watch/a-13a-pilot-watch/description www.a-13a.com/shop/en/ 👍

Hamilton kakhi x-wind is a great pilot watch value. The x-wind has a 7750 movement for a very affordable price .

Good show. Pilots time most actions (switching fuel tanks, flying a holding pattern) with brutally simple plastic black & white battery-powered timers that we stick to the dash using Velcro. Wristwatch is *totally* a back-up. I have 3: Aerospace (most useful), Sinn 857 utc (most legible), and Breitling Avenger II GMT (blingiest). If you use a bezel in the cockpit, you *really* want to move it fast - bidirectional is best by far.

Hey guys, great shows! Question, I tried to purchase something through C&C using the CAM150 code, but it came back as invalid. Any ideas? Thanks

I told you Bell-matics are awesome, Matt! Congrats! Hope you can get it working correctly. Loved the episode.

How about the german " flieger" watches? or the speedmaster " moon watch"? Maybe the Glycine airman? Or the Citizen "hawk" series?. There are many other styles of pilot watches out there that completely original and have almost nothing in common with other watch styles.

32:15 The upward facing triangle indices of the pilot watches refering to the artificial horizon gyro bank angle indicator.

the IWC Pilot comes from the German WW2 A & B Uhr that where 55mm in diameter and meant to be worn over the flight jacket... So the IWC is smaller than a period piece actually!

Another airline pilot here, I wear a Navitimer AB0120 that my fiancée gave me as an engagement watch, but I can tell you I am very much in the minority. Most guys I fly with wear Citizens, Casios, and Seiko. Watches are a required part of the uniform, but most pilots don't like spending a lot on one. On another note, it may be worth noting Sinn and their TESTAF and DIN standards for a Pilots Watch.

Bremont... *BARF!* I like the IWC. Wish you talked about Fortis... the watch brand with more time in space than all other mechanical/automatic watches.

Getting here late - was watching tonight and thought of something for the two watches running slow after sitting on bedside table... Was there a radio sitting on the bedside table? Could this be an issue with the watches getting magnetized? I ask because this happened to me... I have a radio sitting on my bedside table which isn't that big (table). So everything is close to everything... Maybe the magnet in the radio speaker is affecting the watches... just a thought.

31:20 the instrument is called an Artificial Horizon

If Cameron made a pilots watch, I’d buy it.

Several professional activities has been significantly promoting important improvements to watchmaking. On pilot watches, the dial legibility.

There is a Zenith in-house Elite movement in the Type 20 GMT..

@thewatchmakersworkshop

6 жыл бұрын

Good catch. Zenith 693 in this one. Solid in house movement.

I would love a pilot watch that was dressed up... Lightly brushed gold hands, numerals, and bezel. That pusher for GMT quick set would be cool, too. Cameron - consider that as a request for a Weiss Exec Pilot watch!

Pro tip: Matt, If you mount your camera to a weighted floor boom rather than the table, you won’t have shaky cam issues whenever your arms bounce around. This is particularly noticeable with your close-up watch cam.

I dim everything in my rolling office at night. I want the least amount of distractions while going from gauges to mirrors to the windshield.

You forgot the Rolex GMT-Master which was the first commercial pilot watch!

Bremont makes some crazy stuff

You guys did the fuel consumption calculation wrong on the navitimer. The scale is not based on the hour markers, it’s the same whether it’s 12 or 24 hour dial. You first position the fuel rate on the outside opposite that red triangle on the inner scale, then you find the time you are looking for on the inner scale and opposite that will be the amount of fuel you will burn in that time with the given fuel consumption rate.

you both jumped forward in time. The Apple devies just synced with the world clock.

Make 4:04 thumbnail image, 1.2m views. Done.

THE UPSIDE DOWN TRIANGLE Just spitballing here, but with 9,000 hours of flight time and still currently flying for a living... I'm guessing the "pointy thing" at the twelve o'clock position is meant to reproduce the inverted triangle we use as the "bank angle pointer" on the artificial horizon, and now digitally called the Primary Flight Display (PFD) on Boeing products. The inverted triangle is identical the the bank angle pointer, and an easy transition (me at least) to see the same inverted triangle on a "pilot's watch". The GMT function is the only complication I look for on personal work watches. The GMT is NOT USED to set "home time" or anything so pointless, most of us use it to actually set, wait for it... actual GMT or ZULU time as all flight information from your weather, clearances, flight plans, weight & balance, maintenance forms, releases, load sheets, etc. are documented in GMT. Presently, most pilots at work are sporting smart watches. Gone are the days of the ubiquitous G-Shock, Omega Speedmaster, Citizen NaviHawks, Breitlings, Torgoen, etc. The Rolex GMTs and Subs are still present with well compensated pilots and those concerned with "representing" and peacocking. That will never change. Sad though, as the last 3 pilots sporting GMTs or Subs with the Coronet had no idea what "movements" or "complications" meant let alone the differences between automatics and a quartz. To be fair, the installed cockpit clock is usually set to GMT or ZULU, but it's nice to have on your wrist when you're away from the flightdeck doing paperwork or flight planning outside the aircraft. Cheers guys, keep up the good work.

Triangle = so you know what way was up as a glance, 12:00

I'm with Matt, the slide rule segment has me so confused...zoned out like I was back in school.

Weren't the old Pilot watches required to be antimagnetic to not be influenced while flying, and "low pressure" proof to not loose the glas when in high altitude. (even today Sinn, Damasko and i think IWC incorporate these 2 things in all their Pilot watches). Oh and the white lume dial? is already quite popular for years, look for example at the Damasko webpage, they have almost every line in this too. Today Pilots don't need a Wristwatch because for safety reasons every function of the plane is at least twice redundant (more important things 3 times) Back in time when Pilot watches were "created" that was not the case, and they had to use them for navigation etc.

@ekultaylor4463

6 жыл бұрын

universal geneve polerouter was antimagnetic and got its name since it was designed for aviators flying over the pole.

That IWC is so overpriced in my opinion. Price is not far off from the Zenith yet the Zenith packs so much more horological punch.

@jdillinger2307

6 жыл бұрын

Agree, but I suppose that you are paying for history. IWC was one of the handful of original German flieger watches. Unfortunately they didn’t cover this history here, nor did they talk about Stowa, Laco, Wempe or A. Lange & Söhne’s role with IWC as the 5 original WW2 German pilot watches that started the Beobachtungs-uhr style with the triangle at the 12.

@johnvsbear4247

6 жыл бұрын

i'm sorry to disappoint you but the iwc is worth every penny. you really have to hold it in your hands to understand. everything is perfectly balanced and executed... its the kind of watch you put on and its yours immediately. the ratios are gorgeous. beside that the iwc features blow-out safety in low air pressure, bombarded(!) saphire glass and a soft iron core around the movement to improve anti-magnetic properties, hence there cannot be a display back. surely iwc is a highly regarded brand, luxury of sorts, and in luxury goods the markups are enormeous. you dont have to buy it if it doesnt fit your lifestyle or aesthetics, but to imply that there isnt value for money in that watch... is simply not justified.

@lucioledizerot196

6 жыл бұрын

J Dillinger fair point, but Zenith has as much history worth paying for in my opinion. But obviously that comes down to what a person wants to pay for.

Could've added a few more historically significant pilot watches with horological historical significance...Stowa, Lange and Sohne, Glycine Airman to name a few...

thought the ww1 trench soldiers put the watch on the wrist so they could see the time while keeping both hands on the rifle

@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo

6 жыл бұрын

Yona Wischkin nope..... Santos started it when he took flight......before him only women wore watches on the wrist.

Highlights of the episode: 1 - BreMOHN

Bell and Ross!

Sinn

Bell & Ross' can be cool but are ridiculously over priced imho.

Man I have tried to watch this episode about 6 times and it just doesn't do it for me. I just don't get pilot watches. Of course I don't get dive watches either but I live in the Midwest. The only diving happening here is desk diving and cave diving. Pilot watches just seem like a style to me. All the numbers will be big/legible, there might be a slide rule and there will be a triangle on the top. To me that's it. Thanks anyways. I'm more excited for next week personally. Cheers from the central USA.

Hey guys... do not mean to sound negative, but I will, because your shows are kinda getting thin on the content! I like discussions and stream of consciousness conversations, but this show is not about abstract thoughts or existential musings! It is about very specific material objects! As such, if you are on youtube with a show, you ought to know what you are saying or at the very least be on the same page as other people serious about the specific topic! This sort of "rolling with it" and learn as we go works elsewhere, but not while you occupy my time! As someone else mentioned, you haven't touched on milestone aviation watchmakers. On previous similarly themed shows, you completely ignored the most obvious enthusiast loved brands and pieces. I am not saying you have to talk about all the things I like.... but some of the stuff is rather obvious, and you never even mentioned them. At this point, it seems your content is quite fluffy - for lack of a better descriptive word - and airy (pun intended) - very mall shopper and wealthy brat focused most of the time. You spent 7+ minutes talking about the Navitimer alone... Makes me wonder Who the show is actually for... Perhaps your carried over fans from other podcasts who are not into watches but would listen to you regardless? And the watch camera... guys, if you spent what one link of the Navitimer bracelet costs, you could get a camera and lighting setup that would allow your viewers to actually see what you are putting under that horrible thing you call a camera! Rant over!! I actually wish to continue watching you guys and I really hope I made sense! Its not hate, its a little frustration! :) Best wishes!!

@WBush-uc9pe

6 жыл бұрын

And the award for most exclamation points in a single line (5) and total (11) in a comment on this video goes to OmR Samdani! If you want to express your dissatisfaction without discrediting yourself as an illiterate, you should watch a punctuation instruction video. I doubt you will, though, since you couldn't figure out how to turn off a video that caused you to exclaim 11 times.

@Ninja_S1000RR-R

6 жыл бұрын

I wholeheartedly agree with you. I think Matt rushed into starting a watch podcast. He’s only really been into the hobby for about a year or two, and he’s definitely still a, “noob.”

i'm sorry but this podcast gets more and more amateurish as time goes by. no mention of TESTAF, no mention on Type 20 watches, no mention of the original flieger watches. i'm going to stop by every now and then... but i think this podcast is over

@Ninja_S1000RR-R

6 жыл бұрын

I agree. It's pretty boring listening to someone who is still an horological noob.

@jepito29

5 жыл бұрын

As a noob, I appreciate the dynamic between the two of them. I’ve learned a lot without having to listen to someone who is full of himself or a bunch of jump cut/ high energy nonsense. I wouldn’t say it’s over, just Everything ain’t for Everyone.