Episode 46 - Getting to Know the Omega Speedmaster

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The Omega Speedmaster doesn't realy just describe one watch. The name Speedmaster describes an entire array of watches built over the last 62 years, and appreciated for their strong value-oriented approach to highly technical timekeeping, while, again, surviving the rigors of space flight time and time again. It takes a sharp eye to be able to spot differences from one model to the next, but Cameron and Matt do their best to cover all the crucial versions.
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  • @tienenaar2295
    @tienenaar22955 жыл бұрын

    And you didn't even mention the small fallus symbol at the 12' clock position :D Someone on facebook mentioned it in a watch group and every time I see a Speedmaster I just have to giggle at the moment I notice it.

  • @bangurowned
    @bangurowned5 жыл бұрын

    When is the next episode? I've watched every single episode and I'm dying for more!

  • @jdillinger2307

    @jdillinger2307

    5 жыл бұрын

    right? Started off as a weekly series, then 2 weeks, then a month.... now almost two months since the last episode and not a word about a break or one bit of news even during Baselworld. I’m guessing they’ve canceled the series or ran out of things to talk about :(

  • @kaysenalbert8312

    @kaysenalbert8312

    2 жыл бұрын

    InstaBlaster.

  • @hectormerc350
    @hectormerc3505 жыл бұрын

    This episode is so convenient for me because I am really doing research for my next purchase and I know its going to be a speedy

  • @intensepar8975
    @intensepar89755 жыл бұрын

    We miss you guys, come back!!

  • @TheWayofGrace89
    @TheWayofGrace895 жыл бұрын

    Planning to get a Hesalite Speedy Pro for my 30th bday, can’t wait to watch this episode! Always enjoy Cameron’s take as a true watchmaker with passion!

  • @Merfin22

    @Merfin22

    5 жыл бұрын

    Taylor W. It’s the best decision ever. You’ll love it.

  • @Goat_Beans

    @Goat_Beans

    5 жыл бұрын

    I got one as a graduation present! Still the most gorgeous watch I own!

  • @smoko321

    @smoko321

    5 жыл бұрын

    I just got one this week. All I can think is that I should have bought one a long time ago.

  • @olivercooney8622

    @olivercooney8622

    5 жыл бұрын

    Do it, you'll never need anything else!

  • @MagicPenguin01

    @MagicPenguin01

    5 жыл бұрын

    Taylor W. I did the same for my 30th.

  • @paulienkhamvaiphei134
    @paulienkhamvaiphei1345 жыл бұрын

    Among the best and certainly the most fun discussion on the legendary omega speedmaster.Thanks.

  • @mattwasilewicz9677
    @mattwasilewicz96775 жыл бұрын

    If you want to have a Speedmaster that would go INSANE with second hand pricing, make a new Silver Snoopy with the 321 movement. Collector's would go batshit crazy over that....

  • @MrJabbawaky
    @MrJabbawaky5 жыл бұрын

    Please do more of these deal dives into the different models from OMEGA, Rolex, etc. I love this!!!

  • @jjames6667
    @jjames66675 жыл бұрын

    when is episode 47 coming i am having a withdraaawl aaaaahhh

  • @frank1380
    @frank13805 жыл бұрын

    Sparkling stars on the caseback of the silver Snoopy. have mercy

  • @cedarcanoe
    @cedarcanoe4 жыл бұрын

    Question: a Swiss watchbrand launched s chronograph in 1954 that look exactly as a Speeemaster. Its hands were the same, even the 2 dots at ’12’. I forgot the make and model. Can you help me?

  • @Ghost-zn6ve
    @Ghost-zn6ve5 жыл бұрын

    35:53 it was Kevin Bacon

  • @nolanreed7090
    @nolanreed70905 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't remember how negative exponents worked, so I Googled that 10^-6 is 0.000001. So basically no pressure, but not "negative pressure"

  • @thewatchmakersworkshop

    @thewatchmakersworkshop

    5 жыл бұрын

    Makes sense now that you mention it. Thanks for the info!

  • @CDubs720

    @CDubs720

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@thewatchmakersworkshop you can never have a negative absolute pressure. Zero pressure would be a complete vacuum, but even space is not a complete vacuum.

  • @scottharter1161
    @scottharter11615 жыл бұрын

    "Sweltering Death Jungle" - If there isn't a metal band with that name there should be. I read somewhere that the "Broad Arrow" hands were (or probably were?) problematic in the g loads and impact tests due to the overall weight of the hand and the weight being out at the end. The skinnier hands may have been to reduce that effect. Might be BS, I don't remember the reference.

  • @mikeanthony8292
    @mikeanthony82925 жыл бұрын

    @Cameron Weiss the omega calibre 3313 (fp 1285 w/ co-axial) had some early issues and thus has pretty bad rep among speedys. You're positive take on it (45:43) is really interesting. Do you think the 3313 speedy is a better buy than a newer more expensive one with a ground up co-axial mvmt (9300, 9900)?

  • @Goat_Beans
    @Goat_Beans5 жыл бұрын

    Love the video guys, been waiting for you guys to do a deep dive on the speedmaster for a while! One comment on at 32 minutes when you are talking about the automatic movement of the mark III speedmaster though. An automatic movement would work perfectly fine in space. The winding of the watch is more to do with the input force of the arm moving rather than gravity pulling the rotary weight down. You can hold an automatic watch perfectly flat while moving it in a horizontal circle to wind the watch. The momentum rotary mass is more than enough to overcome the mainspring resistance. Maybe he confusion was between weight and mass? Although I don't think a self-winding watchbox would work because it wouldn't provide enough input force like an arm waving around. Great video once again though guys! learnt a lot about speedies :)

  • @NigeReviews

    @NigeReviews

    5 жыл бұрын

    Goat Beans yup the Seiko Pogue was the first automatic chronograph in space and worked fine :)

  • @Goat_Beans

    @Goat_Beans

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@NigeReviews I did not know that! Do you know if it was the golden dial one?

  • @NigeReviews

    @NigeReviews

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yup the golden one :)

  • @thewatchmakersworkshop

    @thewatchmakersworkshop

    5 жыл бұрын

    Main issue is the reliability of the information received from the instrument. With a manual wind watch, you know it is wound because you wound it fully on scheduled intervals. It will be unknown to the user as to whether an automatic has received enough energy input from the oscillating weight to have good enough amplitude to run accurately or not. So it might appear to work just fine, but it was not tested and certified to confirm that energy input was sufficient for accuracy.

  • @NigeReviews

    @NigeReviews

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cameron Weiss thanks for the reply Cameron. Loving the show. :)

  • @redbird963
    @redbird9635 жыл бұрын

    R.I.P. Watch and Listen Podcast

  • @josephcnry
    @josephcnry5 жыл бұрын

    There have been several generations of X-33s, the one you guys had on hand was the second generation. The first generation had polished pushers, a different crown, and different bezel. Given how common "transitional" pieces in Omega's lines, I think it's likely that rather than denoting a watch made for or bought by NASA, a Gen 2 with polished pushers is really just an early Gen 2 off the line.

  • @kevinduncan9686
    @kevinduncan96865 жыл бұрын

    The Rolex Daytona stopped working it had nothing to do with "syncing with other watches for space travel" and the crystal popped off the longines

  • @dandesmarais2190
    @dandesmarais21905 жыл бұрын

    Just checked the Crown & Caliber web site. The Silver Snoopy is GONE!!! That's a $24k sale that is directly attributable to this pod cast. Way to go, Matt & Cam!

  • @tienenaar2295
    @tienenaar22955 жыл бұрын

    When is the new episode online?

  • @Johnfsu
    @Johnfsu3 жыл бұрын

    I am a little late, but this was an excellent episode, gents!

  • @BobBoyd1
    @BobBoyd15 жыл бұрын

    Fratello Watches recently reported that the Rolex 6238 (pre-Daytona or "George Lazenby") and Longines-Wittnauer 235T were also tested but didn't fully pass NASA testing.

  • @tonomartnez8589
    @tonomartnez85895 жыл бұрын

    Something important that wasn't mentioned : speedmaster is a non hacking seconds watch ... I am still amazed people keep saying it's a great caliber and you endup not beign able to properly set the time !!

  • @kimschaefer7855
    @kimschaefer78555 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting .

  • @kevinduncan9686
    @kevinduncan96865 жыл бұрын

    Also the 105.012 doesn't look like the FOIS that you put up. Sorry I'm a Speedmaster nerd. Also we don't actually know if they used a 105.012 it could have been a 145.012. Very similar but different. I'd like to know what reference it actually was but I can't find it. So if anyone knows and has a source to back it up I'd love to know.

  • @josephregan1007
    @josephregan10075 жыл бұрын

    Damn. That snoopy watch is the shit!

  • @manahatter
    @manahatter5 жыл бұрын

    is this channel still doing new content?

  • @kevinduncan9686
    @kevinduncan96864 жыл бұрын

    105.012 Wow that's such a hard reference number to remember. 6 digits is so hard to remember. Automatic watches do work in space Cameron look it up. The reason they chose manual wind chronographs is because automatic chronographs didn't exist until 1969 four years after NASA flight qualified it. How do I know more than you about this?

  • @kevinduncan9686

    @kevinduncan9686

    4 жыл бұрын

    Also the 105.012 used in Apollo 13 does not look like the FOIS you pictured. It looks closer to the current regular production model. I need to stop watching this episode. Yes I'm a nerd.

  • @jimf5160
    @jimf51605 жыл бұрын

    I agree re the Silver Snoopy...but that price....

  • @Snarfelle
    @Snarfelle5 жыл бұрын

    No new episod in a month :'(

  • @aria8928
    @aria89285 жыл бұрын

    White dial... For snow... Interesting idea...

  • @thewristwatchexperience8153
    @thewristwatchexperience81535 жыл бұрын

    So much want a brand new 321 with my brand new 68 Harley !

  • @roycedot
    @roycedot2 жыл бұрын

    Now we got the new 3861 Moonwatch.

  • @damonhill33
    @damonhill335 жыл бұрын

    ArchieLuxury: "Omega Speedmaster MAN ON THE MOON"

  • @stevebo8055

    @stevebo8055

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thomas Archie is a fat pig of a so called man

  • @vivekv27990

    @vivekv27990

    5 жыл бұрын

    man of the phucking moon phuckers!

  • @methik38
    @methik384 ай бұрын

    The host should “watch and listen” more

  • @Johnfsu
    @Johnfsu3 жыл бұрын

    @43:04 - haha, that's the truth.

  • @jimf5160
    @jimf51605 жыл бұрын

    the Schumacher Speedmasters are still reasonable with their F1 Wheel boxes

  • @cordonbloue
    @cordonbloue5 жыл бұрын

    Think this Snoopy will be gone by now :D

  • @camarocarl7130
    @camarocarl71303 жыл бұрын

    The only watch to break on the Moon. The Omega Speedmaster. Apollo 15 Bulova Lunar Pilot to the rescue.

  • @dachanist

    @dachanist

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Accutron broke in the LEM that's why Neil's Speedmaster stayed on board.

  • @apangurra2775
    @apangurra27755 жыл бұрын

    Didn't Rolex fail because the crystal popped off during decompression? It was probably waterproof. Speedmaster had the advantage during decompression because air can get out everywhere.. it's not very sealed at all.

  • @ripperx444
    @ripperx4444 жыл бұрын

    I fast forwarded and landed right on the part where the guy said he doesn’t know what the seahorse is and that they used it from the beginning.... i wrote this comment and closed this video!

  • @arthurmontiel2665

    @arthurmontiel2665

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol. One month later and I watched the whole video for you. So much misinformation told as fact. You really didn't miss much.

  • @MrZleesbec
    @MrZleesbec5 жыл бұрын

    all this and barely any mention of the speedy reduced?????

  • @zissou6928
    @zissou69285 жыл бұрын

    44:10 They're ripping on an astronaut's tool lol wtf is this hubris

  • @thewatchmakersworkshop

    @thewatchmakersworkshop

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think the current version is awesome, but I don't love the look of the original version.

  • @UnNamedTrucker
    @UnNamedTrucker5 жыл бұрын

    Did y’all quit?

  • @jdillinger2307

    @jdillinger2307

    5 жыл бұрын

    And they didn’t even bother to say goodbye.

  • @thomaswood7495

    @thomaswood7495

    5 жыл бұрын

    Must not have been profitable for them.

  • @andrewlogan9556
    @andrewlogan95565 жыл бұрын

    the current 1861 still has a plastic brake i'm pretty sure

  • @thewatchmakersworkshop

    @thewatchmakersworkshop

    5 жыл бұрын

    Current movements should all have the new metal brake, unless something has changed in the past few years. Protocol for Omega had been to replace all Delrin brakes with metal ones when they came in for service. Due to this, I bet vintage watches with original Delrin brakes might become collectible like a tropical dial.

  • @andrewlogan9556

    @andrewlogan9556

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@thewatchmakersworkshop i have a new speedmaster pro i got from an ad in september, i'll open up the back and have a look and report back

  • @thewatchmakersworkshop

    @thewatchmakersworkshop

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewlogan9556 Awesome! I would love to know what is inside.

  • @andrewlogan9556

    @andrewlogan9556

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@thewatchmakersworkshop just unscrewed the back its definitley delrin if i could post a pic here i would

  • @thewatchmakersworkshop

    @thewatchmakersworkshop

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewlogan9556 That's interesting. I wonder if they have been using Delrin on the closed caseback versions and are no longer replacing the Delrin during servicing. I will have to check with some current Swatch Group watchmakers.

  • @samhill4454
    @samhill44545 жыл бұрын

    ...and yet you passed over the MK40s?

  • @chrishammer5925
    @chrishammer59252 жыл бұрын

    You should have just bought that snoopy... And "half" the price of a Daytona at that time?? HA Shit

  • @dandesmarais2190
    @dandesmarais21905 жыл бұрын

    And you need to do a whole episode on G Shocks

  • @BIGWEBB88
    @BIGWEBB885 жыл бұрын

    Is Crown & Caliber legit?

  • @robm425

    @robm425

    5 жыл бұрын

    BIGWEBB88 is that a serious question? They are legit from what I have seen

  • @BIGWEBB88

    @BIGWEBB88

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes. I never purchased a high end watch online only in store.

  • @robm425

    @robm425

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BIGWEBB88 They are legit and well known for it. If you want a Stainless Steel rolex sports watch definitely the place to look as no authorized dealer. There are a few other places to look at, but Crown and Caliber is the top site for those luxury watches. Also depends what you are looking for.

  • @dandesmarais2190
    @dandesmarais21905 жыл бұрын

    Interview Ellen Degeneres, Anthony the No BS Watchmaker, and Producer Michael

  • @algorithm007ify
    @algorithm007ify5 жыл бұрын

    Omega beat Rolex woohooo

  • @mmp11472

    @mmp11472

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wrong

  • @algorithm007ify

    @algorithm007ify

    5 жыл бұрын

    Michael Pitts according to NASA... they did! Deal with it fanboy

  • @mmp11472

    @mmp11472

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@algorithm007ify Rolex failed to provide a watch to one of the test. Oversight by Rolex, yes. Beat, no. You can't wash your hands with a Speedy. You can swim with a Daytona. I own both, I know which beats which.

  • @algorithm007ify

    @algorithm007ify

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mmp11472 failing to provide a watch = FAIL...like not sitting a test..maybe Rolex knew they would fail the test.. BOTH chronographs are machine made and mass produced..the rolex one is overpriced garbage..If you want a sports chrono, Zenith make better chronographs..especially with the defy 21 movement... Both rolex and omega have poor movement finishing...JLC, zenith, etc... are much better in that regard.

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